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What GolfWRXers are saying about Tour pro distance

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In our forums, WRXer ‘dalehead’ has been investigating distance on Tour with his findings leading him to believe the only issue where there is a distance problem in the sport is with the very elite levels. Per ‘dalehead’:

“I went to the Tour website and found their list of top 70 drivers for distance. The median (half were longer, half were shorter) was 279 yards. So do we really have a distance problem? Oh, I forgot to mention these stats are for the Champions Tour. But these guys are still pretty good. They might even give a WRX’er a game. Got me wondering if we really have a distance problem anywhere except the most elite levels.”

The topic is a divisive one and has got our members talking, with plenty of interesting viewpoints offered up from our members on how to protect courses from the elite bombers.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Golfrnut: “The problem is not distance per se, it’s the fact that technology has improved the equipment faster than courses have improved to handle the change. The designs of the courses were made for a far shorter game, which are now proving to be irrelevant for all but the “shorter” hitters. Most fairway bunkers, par 5s, and the like are no longer a part of the course layout that matters…the only protection is making the hole 500+ yards and closer to 600 for par 5s. Add in the fact that groups like the Tour committee love selling the long ball on TV so they won’t grow up rough either to help mitigate the bomb and gouge style of play.”
  • RedWings1: “My 2 cents is that the answer is in the setup of the courses the tour uses. Stop all the fairways from running a 9/10 on the stimpmeter and rolling out another 20, 30 & 40 yards after landing. Set up the fairways much tighter. More strategic off the tee if you will. If I guy has the ability to hit it 300 yards carry and keep it in a tighter fairway – congrats that’s an awesome ability.”
  • mokedaddy: “One could easily argue the mental side required now is tougher than in the past. More stimulation, bigger crowds, more money and better fields of players. I definitely agree there are a lot of players that have the physical skill to compete but are a mess between the ears.”
  • Beerperhole: “Every time I hear about this I can’t help but think that people are looking to what the top elite do on the course and using it to justify changes to the game as a whole. I’m no WXRr. I get out there and hit him 230 to 280 off the tee. That puts me well past a majority of the other weekend warriors I play with. Still…the courses we are on (from the white tees) still eat me alive. And, it remains that the biggest obstacle to growing the game is how difficult it is. Golf is a hard game. So, maybe we shouldn’t make it harder for all us millions of shlubs who play it for the fun of it. It’s like taking all basketball rims and raising them up to 12 feet…”

Entire Thread: “Tour pro driving distance”

 

Gianni is the Managing Editor at GolfWRX. He can be contacted at [email protected]

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  1. Ken Kapcia

    Apr 2, 2020 at 4:35 pm

    Not so sure distance is a problem for the typical golfer! If the average men’s handicap index was truly lower than the medium average from the 80’s,90’s and the last two decades we could have an issue. I bet if you look these numbers up you will identify that nobody is truly playing any better.

    • drkviol801

      Apr 5, 2020 at 6:32 am

      Yep, the clubs and golf balls haven’t gotten that much better in the last 10 years. An R9 driver with a penta ball is lethal tbh… J.B holmes said it best he’s been hitting it 300 since he was 10 years old.

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Best ‘forgiving’ wedges – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been discussing the most forgiving wedges on the market. WRXer ‘aaronpoling’ lays out his current setup and what he’s currently considering, saying:

“I am looking at getting new wedges, but looking for a forgiving wedge.

I currently play Ping G25 50°, MD4 54° and 58°. I used to play the CBX2 in the 50°, 54° and 58° and liked them a lot; but like any good dad, my son took them.

I am currently looking Callaway’s CB12 and Cleveland’s CBZ. Anyone have thoughts on these? Or recommendations of other wedges that I should check out?”

And our members have been weighing in with their thoughts and recommendations in response, with one brand coming out emphatically on top.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • boggyman: “CBZs are amazing wedges!”
  • drewbens: “Agreed, the Cleveland CB wedges are great! Already had a CBX Full Face 2 54 and recently added a 50 and 58 (for well under $100 a piece). Was chipping so well last week that my brother-in-law asked if the wedges were legal. Definitely underrated wedges for those of us that are not scratch golfers.”
  • BogeyTed: “Get Cleveland CBX/CBZ. Very underrated clubs.”

Entire Thread: “Best ‘forgiving’ wedges – GolfWRXers discuss”

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I built the worst fitting clubs ever – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been reacting to a WRXer who claims to have built the “worst fitting clubs ever.” ‘dlow206’ recounts his experience with plenty of insightful findings for where he can go better next time in a detailed post, saying:

“Here’s my story of building the worst fitting clubs ever (for me). And my findings of what a better fit is.

I am short in stature, as well as a very short wrist to floor of 30.5″. I went down a rabbit hole of wanting to try irons 1″ shorter of more than standard length. Given the shorter lengths, the swingweights would be super light unless I added back a ton of weight to the heads, but I don’t like adding an extreme amount of weight back to the heads, so I decided to compensate with heavier shafts (115 grams instead of 95). Played with this set for a while and was hitting all irons extremely poorly. Thin, fat, right, right, left. My swing didn’t deteriorate that much because I was hitting my driver well, woods well, etc.

Went back to my older set of irons, playing at standard length, and my iron play improved immediately. Since then, have been doing more testing, while paying more attention to different possible variables. What I have found is I actually prefer lighter total weight with relatively normal or slightly heavier swingweights. Did a recent fitting and found that 85 gram shafts were better for me than 95 grams with standard length and relatively standard swingweights. 

Still trying to dial in a final iron shaft choice, so have a few contenders that I will be testing. Will be moving away from my current Steelfiber i95 S parallel to lighter and softer

  • MMT 80 parallel R – worked pretty well in a limited number of swings at a fitting
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  • Steelfiber i80 CW R – i have been playing Steelfibers for a long time, so need to give one Steelfiber shaft a shot

Given I do club building work, I am going to build all of these shafts with the All-Fit universal iron adapters to pair with a Srixon 7 iron head for testing. With these adapters, there isn’t a swingweight issue because the amount of weight from drilling out is about equivalent to the universal adapter components.”

And our members have been sharing their reactions in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Mikey_HACKilroy: “That length cut costs you a fair amount in swing points. I’d posit the length mattered more than the weight because a 115g shaft isn’t going to actually add enough back after cutting an inch off. Does it mean 115 would ultimately work? Hard to say. Maybe try a 1/2″ cut and add 2g to the head to compensate assuming the 7i is 37″ long. Maybe that will feel better. It translates to the same ~D2 you’re swinging at with the 95g shafts (estimated based on common weight, but you can weigh your parts on your own obviously).”
  • Stuart_G: “Your process is good – keep at it and trust it.”

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PXG Secret Weapon Version 2 mini driver lands on USGA conforming list – GolfWRXers react

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A second version of PXG’s Secret Weapon has this week landed on the USGA’s conforming list, much to the interest of our members.

The original version of the brand’s Secret Weapon launched in January of 2025, with the second version also featuring four distinct weight ports in the head and coming with 13-degree of loft.

In our forums, our members have been assessing the new version and sharing their thoughts.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • DTorres: “Kinda looks like the face on the new one might be slightly deeper. Little bit more rounded leading edge.”
  • snagy2000: “The current version is REALLY good, long…This one looks like they’re bringing some lightning tech to it…”
  • SEP1006: “Agree with this, hard to tell from that angle but looks like the face may be the same as the Lightning. If that’s the case may have to give this a serious look. Absolutely love my 2wd which is also a 13* loft. But that Lightning Tour Mid Driver face is hot and forgiving.”

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