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Titleist 620 irons: Classics refined for the modern player

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Some irons need no introduction.

For decades, the number 600 has been synonymous with classic forgings from Titleist. Blades and cavity backs that have found their way into the bags of the world’s best and golfers looking for the ultimate experience in shotmaking and feel. Be it the 660, 670, 680, 681, or 690, a set of these in a golf bag usually meant one thing—look out!

These timeless designs evoke memories of well-struck shots and golf balls curving in the air at a player’s will. In homage to the legacy of those that have come before, and looking towards the future with refinements for the modern player, Titleist introduces 620 MB and CB irons.

Titleist 620 MB irons

Blades, also known as muscle backs, are the easiest style of clubs to recognize in the game. Whether it be on a shelf in a pro shop or in a Sunday bag next to the practice green, you can spot them in a second. The thing is, when it comes to the 620s from Titleist, you won’t find the initials MB on them anywhere. The reason is beyond simple in its explanation, according to Marni Ines, Director, Titleist Irons Development: “We wanted to bring this blade back to its roots and make it as clean as possible, eliminate any unnecessary markings on the hosel on the back. So we didn’t stamp it with MB. We figure it you’re in the market for a blade you don’t need to be told what one is.” As I said, it almost makes too much sense.

Beyond the stamping, there is more to these irons than initially meets the eye. The 620 series offers improved turf interaction throughout the set thanks to more camber and a tweaked leading edge. I realize this is something often mentioned with new releases, especially with players clubs, but there is a good reason: As modern swings are changing, so are turf conditions. The improved agronomy of modern courses means club soles especially need to be tweaked to offer maximum playability. The sharp leading edges of yesteryear are LONG gone!

In addition to the sole tweaks, there is also less sole to worry about in the short irons. Let me explain: To offer greater control of trajectory and help players “hit their proper windows,” the set has characteristics hidden in each club. The blade length is progressive from the longest iron to the shortest, the transition is so smooth that unless you set clubs next to each other, it’s quite difficult to notice. Every detail of each head was checked, double-checked, and tour validated before getting to this point. The next part of this progression is the face height, which also transitions from more shallow to tall in the pitching wedge. This is where the extra control comes from, especially in the shorter irons with a higher CG.

Titleist has taken everything it has learned from previous MB designs, and with feedback from the best players in the world, created the finest, most controllable, blade it has ever made. It will never be the most forgiving option, but I can’t blame a player of any skill level for wanting to give 620 MB irons a try.

Titleist 620 CB irons

Just like its big brother, the blade, the Titleist 620 CB has gone through a total refinement process to get to where it is today. The sole and profile have similar tweaks to the MB but in an ever-so-fractionally larger package.

Progressive blade length and face height create the same trajectory control, but what makes the CB different is that unlike the blade (or the Titleist T300 iron), it’s not a club found at either end of the spectrum, it’s within it. Data shows that more thanr 80 percent of tour players play some sort of combo set, whether it be blades to CBs, or CBs to unsupported faster-faced irons. What this means is that the CB has to hit this perfect middle ground between transition club and being its own boss.

This is what Titleist has done to complete perfection, not just with the CB but with the clubs around it. Each radius, curve, and transition slots in perfectly with the models on each side of it, this allow you as the player to pick the set the way YOU want, and not be dictated by some unpleasant look from address. The 620 CB is still 100 percent its own unique club, designed for a specific player type, but thanks to some very smart engineering it also gives you more options.

There is more than meets the eye with the long irons of the 620 CB too. Just like the T100s, the 3 and 4-irons of the CB are co-forged with tungsten in the heel and toe to keep the size small but give a serious boost to MOI and launch.

“Our ability to use co-forged high-density tungsten in such a compact blade size like 620 CB is extremely powerful, especially at the long end of the set where players need the most help with launch and forgiveness,” Marni Ines, Director, Titleist Irons Development.

This isn’t the only club in the new Titleist iron line that has gone through this reimagining. The T100 profile has been shrunk compared to the previous AP2 (its most direct club in the previous line) to be the exact same size as the CB to offer greater stability through the ball thanks to embedded tungsten. So, regardless of if you are looking to go full CB or build your own combo set, the 620 irons from Titleist give you the classic look and feel you want—with plenty of performance.

620 MB and 620 CB Specs

STOCK SHAFTS

Steel

620 CB: True Temper Project X LZ: Mid-launch shaft that offers smooth feel, and tour trajectory for those looking to maximize control and have a smoother tempo.

620 MB: True Temper Project X: Low-launch, low-spin shaft that has been a staple on tour and in the bags of some of the world’s top players with faster tempos looking for maximum stability.

Graphite

This is a new one for Titleist. Just like with the original True Temper AMT, they will be the first to offer the Mitsubishi MCA Tensei White AM2 (stands for “ascending mass”).  This new shaft is a low-launch, low-spin option for those wanting a lighter total weight and vibration dampening. The shaft will ascend two grams per club, starting at 108 grams in the PW and going to 94 grams in the 3-iron.

These options are on top of Titleist’s already extremely large selection of available shafts—including options from KBS and Nippon—many of which are available at no additional up-charge.

AVAILABILITY

The new Titleist 620 irons will be available in golf shops worldwide beginning August 30, with fittings beginning August 8.

Steel: MAP $175 per club ($1,399/set of 8)

Graphite: MAP $187.50 per club ($1,499 /set of 8)

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Ryan Barath is a club-fitter & master club builder with more than 17 years of experience working with golfers of all skill levels, including PGA Tour players. He is the former Build Shop Manager & Social Media Coordinator for Modern Golf. He now works independently from his home shop and is a member of advisory panels to a select number of golf equipment manufacturers. You can find Ryan on Twitter and Instagram where he's always willing to chat golf, and share his passion for club building, course architecture and wedge grinding.

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  3. Mike

    Aug 8, 2019 at 8:33 pm

    Finally one with nothing stamped on it, just a clean Blade NICE!

  4. Bobbyg

    Aug 7, 2019 at 1:40 pm

    Makes me miss my 660 blades.

  5. Doesnotno

    Aug 7, 2019 at 8:46 am

    $175 for the MB, made by hitting a black of hot metal with a hammer before grinding and polishing it. The T300 is $125 a piece, with multiple pieces and polymers, and presumably a degree of grinding and polishing.

    What gives? Aren’t blades the cheapest clubs to manufacture any more?

  6. dat

    Aug 6, 2019 at 8:47 pm

    MB yes, CB no.

  7. The dude

    Aug 6, 2019 at 2:12 pm

    MB’s….wow!…now that’s clean (lookout Miz)

  8. Michael Constantine

    Aug 6, 2019 at 9:57 am

    Specs available anywhere?

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Fujikura 2024 Ventus Black, Ventus Red review – Club Junkie Reviews

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About the 2024 Ventus: Fujikura has big shoes to fill with the 2024 Ventus shaft lineup as the previous shafts were deemed iconic by most. VeloCore Plus is the technology that will set the new Ventus lineup apart and we saw its debut earlier this year in the 2024 Ventus Blue shaft.

Now it is Ventus Black and Ventus Red’s turn with VeloCore Plus to round out the lineup. VeloCore Plus is the shafts bias core that is made up of different layers, and types, of carbon fiber sheets. This core is built around stability of the club head to ensure it can help deliver center contact more often while adding ball speed. The 2024 Ventus line is now complete with Red for mid/high launch, Blue for players seeking mid-launch, and Black for low launch.

Look & Feel

Out of the box, the Ventus Black and Red match their Blue sibling with a new matte finish to their paint. Black has a simple matte black finish that almost looks charcoal grey in the sunlight. Red is a little more of a drastic change with a deeper hue. I would consider the new Ventus Red’s paint a maroon color that has some nice depth with the matte finish. Out in the sunlight, both shafts look great and don’t transmit any glare from the sun. The classic Ventus graphics are present up near the grip and the Ventus text is now a silver outline near the center. While everything seems new with the 2024 Ventus line, they are easily identified as Ventus shafts.

Feel is such a subjective thing to describe, but both of the new Ventus shafts have good feel to them. For me, the new Black and Red shafts have a slightly stouter feel to them through the swing. The Ventus Black is definitely a stiff profile that is designed for players with speed that takes a little more power to load. The great thing about Ventus Black is that you can get the low spin and launch you need without having a harsh feel and lots of vibration. At impact, you get a little less “kick” as your hands get to impact than the previous Ventus Black. Black will also feel a touch harder to turn over, taking away that feeling of losing it left.

Ventus Red has a softer and more active feel to it than Ventus Black. The handle section feels very stiff and stable while the mid and tip sections allow you to feel the flex of that shaft throughout the swing. As you start your downswing, you can feel Red flex lower down the shaft compared to Black. The softer tip section makes the shaft feel like it really is releasing energy at the point of impact and Red is a little easier to square up and hit a draw with.

Performance

I think we can all agree that the Ventus shafts released in 2018 performed exceptionally well. This new 2024 lineup leans on VelCore Plus to do even better. Ventus Black sticks to its roots as a low launch and low spin shaft. It keeps spin down no matter where you hit it on the face of the club. Typically a low heel shot ramps up the spin number but Ventus Black kept that, and other shots, spin down. Looking at launch monitor numbers, I never had a shot hit 3,000 rpm of spin, while there were a few under 2,000. Launch was also lower than Red both on the monitor as well as just looking at the window of the shot. A flat penetrating flight is what Ventus Black produced shot after shot. The starting line of my shots with Ventus Black were also a little more right of Red. Stability is key with the Black and swinging hard won’t cause the shaft to get loose and create an offline shot.

Ventus Red will offer a higher flight but without adding too much spin. I noticed almost 1.5 degrees more launch but with only around 350rpm more spin. I know people get scared of higher launching shafts, but the new Ventus Red can add some height without adding spin and losing control. While the flight isn’t as penetrating as Ventus Black, Red has not ballooned on me or shown any rise into the wind. The shaft is easier to square up and hit a draw with, but even as a drawer of the ball, I haven’t feared going left with it. For me, Red wasn’t high spinning either with shots averaging just under 2,400rpm for good and poorly struck shots. Shots that didn’t hit the center of the face stayed online well and had less curvature on them than I would have expected.

Final Thought

Fujikura had a tough job to replace the original Ventus, and I think they have done well to make an updated shaft that still shares the core Ventus DNA. You have the same three flight and spin options with a slightly tighter and stiffer feel to them. Performance is top-notch, and I don’t think anyone will be disappointed with the new shafts.

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GolfWRX members impressed by new Wilson Fit AI

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Last month, GolfWRX’s Brian Knudson and four of our forum members visited Pinehurst to test Wilson Golf’s newest products. We touched on this earlier in the week, and we’ll have more on this later, but members came away extremely impressed with Wilson’s product offerings. It’s clear that Wilson is highly motivated to re-establish themselves in the golf space. Following the trip, Scott, known in the GolfWRX forum as Shilgy stated, “We all definitely need to add Wilson golf to our must-play equipment. You’re doing yourself a disservice if you don’t at least try them out and with the new AI fitting tool every fitter out there can be a Wilson expert fitter.”

So let’s talk about Wilson Fit AI. Wilson introduced its AI fitting tool at the end of last year. It uses Blast Motion’s Bluetooth-enabled sensor, which is fitted into a grip, and it captures approximately 12,000 data points per swing. That data is then run through Wilson’s black box algorithm to deliver custom-fit iron recommendations after evaluating elements such as swing plane, wrist hinge, shaft, lost, club face closure, and overall swing tempo.

“Club fitters using a Wilson iron with a Blast Motion sensor embedded into the grip will be able to provide real-time feedback for every aspect of the player’s swing including shaft loading, swing tempo, face closing rates, and more. It will only take a few swings to understand a golfer’s swing profile allowing us to recommend the perfect set of Wilson customized irons, along with the ideal head model, shaft type and grip for each golf club.” – Bob Thurman, Global VP, Wilson R&D & GM, Global Golf at Wilson

After visiting with Bob Thurman, Wilson Golf’s Global VP of R&D, the team was introduced to Ed Garland. Ed plays an integral part in the brain trust behind Wilson Fit AI and is Wilson’s Master Fitter. He fits all of the company’s tour players and high-profile guests or ambassadors, and he was the man Wilson tabbed to lead the fittings for our members. Ed told us that in as little as three swings, you can find the right fit. The right head. The right shaft. The right grip. While it’s not the first time we’ve heard about fitters only using three swings, that claim, for some, might be hard to believe.

Shilgy: “The new Ai fitting tool is legit. First answer a few questions and then there is a fitting iron that measures everything. It’s almost scary how easy, and accurate, it is. Started me with a shaft that was too light but based on contact it changed to 115g DG. About as expected. I was fit into the CB with the Dynapower forged as the 5 and 6 iron.”

Olson12: “You start by building a profile. It asks about your skill level, goals in golf, grip size, wrist-to-floor measurements, height, and a few other pieces I’ve forgotten about. Once you have that, the fitting is with a stock 7-iron with a softish flex shaft. Ed walked me through the tech along with the do’s and don’ts for the fitting. The sensor is similar to hitting a club with an Arccos sensor on the butt. However, instead of screwing into the grip, this sensor is an extension of the grip and aligns with the clubface. It measures your G-force, Axis, Tempo, and many other things I don’t fully understand.

“After warming up, Ed had me hit a handful of shots. It took maybe five or six shots, and we decided it was enough. Of the six shots, I hit four pretty well, one perfectly, and one really bad one. The app spits out recommendations based on all the data it collected and gives you both a steel and graphite option. On the graphite side, it went straight to the Steelfiber 110s, so that was the first one we tried. Ed built up a 7-iron in the Wilson Staff CB with the Steelfiber 110s, and we were off to the races.”

TLUBulldogGolf: “It was really interesting to see all of the data the AI fitting tool was analyzing based on just a few swings in order to put together recommendations for starting points for a fitting. I have not seen a tool doing more detailed analysis and narrowing down potential options quicker. The gearheads will get a kick out of the detailed metrics it offers if they want to dive deeper and the narrowed list of options will remove the guesswork for those that aren’t really sure what they need.”

Final Thoughts

Wilson Golf is creating competitive products and has developed a state-of-the-art fitting tool to dial golfers in. Like true GolfWRXers, our members are still hard at work testing the clubs they were fit into as some had to be shipped directly to the participants following the trip. However, with the help of Wilson Fit AI, a number of the clubs have already made it into the bag for some of our members.

We still have plenty more on the way from our trip with Wilson Golf. Be sure to follow more product testing updates in the forum thread here.

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At GolfWRX, we are a community of like-minded individuals that all experience and express our enjoyment of the game in many ways.

It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball. It even allows us to share another thing we all love – buying and selling equipment.

Currently, in our GolfWRX buy/sell/trade (BST) forum, there is a listing for a Miura Limited Run MGP-NM2 putter.

From the seller: (@NoahthePlaya): “Miura Limited Run MGP-NM2  -35 in -New Frequency Filtered Shaft -Super Stroke Grip. $600

To check out the full listing in our BST forum, head through the link: Miura Limited Run MGP-NM2 putter

This is the most impressive current listing from the GolfWRX BST, and if you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum you can check them out here: GolfWRX BST Rules

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