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Forum Thread of the Day: “The dynamics of the partnership between Jason Day and Steve Williams”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from MountainGoat who delves into the recently formed partnership between Jason Day and Steve Williams. MountainGoat mentions how their collaboration looks to extend far beyond a regular player/caddie relationship, citing how Williams appears to be “instructing Jason on what shots to hit,” as well as “suggesting equipment changes” — in the form of a new softer ball. Our members discuss MountainGoat’s theory and share their thoughts on the partnership.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • JAMH03: “Guess JD is a “we” guy. Which totally makes sense if SW has spent 20+ years with some of the world’s elite he does have relevant experience to draw on for JD or most anybody I reckon.”
  • 00steven: “This might be the right thing to save Jason Day’s career. Not that it’s horrible, but he has a lot of potential. Seems to me he’s trying hard to impress Stevie too.”
  • bspn: “The mental side of the game has always been one of Day’s biggest weaknesses. His pre-shot visualization and breathing routine is painful to watch at times, so if SW can help anywhere it will be cutting out the crap and just hitting the shot – Day clearly has the talent so getting rid of some of the BS and just playing golf might be good for him.”
  • dalehead: “If Stevie can get Jason on the right track I’ll give him his due. Until then, I’ll continue to believe it’s easy to build a reputation as a great caddy when you’ve toted the bags of players like Ray Floyd, Greg Norman, and Tiger Woods.”
  • PowderedToastMan: “Jason Day is one of those guys that benefits more so than the average tour player from a great caddie. Many of the legends of the game consider Steve Williams one of the best caddies, if not the best. It has the potential to be a great relationship.”

Entire Thread: “The dynamics of the partnership between Jason Day and Steve Williams”

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Srixon ZX7 vs Mizuno Pro 223 irons – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been discussing and contrasting Srixon’s ZX7 irons and Mizuno’s Pro 223 irons. WRXer ‘Casey_0507’ is looking for an in-depth comparison between the two heads, and our members have been sharing their thoughts and experiences with both irons in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Cactus Jack: “In my hands the irons feel very different. The ZX7s have an almost dense heavy feeling strike similar to a Muria, while the 223s felt fast and extremely soft with all the classic Mizuno DNA one can handle. Within a few swings with each club you’ll likely have a clear cut favorite.”
  • JoeFrigo: “I’ve got both 223’s and zx7’s on order… From what I remember, when I hit both, 223’s had slightly faster ball speed. Both were comparable spin. ZX7’s have a thicker topline.”
  • wam78: “I’ve been a Mizuno fanboy for a long time. Since I played mp14’s in the late 90’s right out of high school. Off and on love affair with them. Whenever they come out with a new iron release, they always pique my interest. I have not hit the 223 yet, but I will in the very near future. Very interested to see the looks at address and see the numbers and ball flight. However, this is my first time playing Srixon (zx7’s), and man have I been impressed. The feel is everything I want from an iron in this category. Very forgiving, sole design really works for my delivery. My numbers are absolutely spot on. They allow me to play the ball I want to play without too much or too little spin. Just a fantastic iron!”
  • kwainio: “I just did a fitting this week. At address they both look very similar, enough so that I didn’t really have a preference. The 223s definitely felt hotter off the face, spun somewhere around 200-300rpms less, but overall pretty negligible. I ended up going 223s.”

Entire Thread: “Srixon ZX7 vs Mizuno Pro 223 irons – GolfWRXers discuss

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Best utility irons on the market – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been discussing utility irons. WRXer ‘Top_Swings’ is looking for a UI to hit off the tee and from the fairway and reaches out to our members saying: “I am thinking a 2 iron. I hit the ZX and absolutely loved it, so those of you that have hit some, how do they compare? Thanks!”

And our members have been sharing their top picks in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • DCCarpenter: “I have the Wilson Staff Utility Iron at 24 degrees. I really like it; it has saved the day on windy days where I’ve ended up using it off of every tee. I’ve had some good success with it off the deck from tight and regular lies, not sure it’s great from the heavy rough. They make it in 18, 21, and 24. I’d really like to try the 18 version off the tee just to see how the carry goes vs my 24.”
  • ciscojaws: “I just got a 19* Mizuno MP18 MMC FliHi and played 9 today using it off the tee. Love it. I hit the ZX and the Ping Crossover as well, but for me this one looks better at address and feels great. Ping Crossover felt dead, and the ZX was a little too small.”
  • MarkRip: “I picked up a Sub 70 699U. It is just as easy to hit off the tee or the fairway.”
  • R5Two: “Swear, Titleist T200 (2021) utility build is the best it gets for fairway and tee. Just enough help, but still can shape shots. It’s a rocket.”
  • dodgyman: “Definitely demo the Srixon ZX utility. Replaced my U510 with it and not looking back.”

Entire Thread: “Best utility irons on the market”

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Do blades negatively impact performance? Or is it all in our heads? – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been having an in-depth discussion on blade irons. WRXer ‘Royal Mustang’ has questioned whether ‘solid’ players are mistakenly scared off of playing blades, posting

“A lot has been written here about pro-blades/anti-blades. My question for those of you who play them or don’t play them: do they negatively impact your performance? Could you shoot a lower score if you had played a GI or SGI iron? Is that 8-iron you hit slightly thin and left 160 and in the bunker really 164 and a birdie putt with a GI iron? Or is that just your assumption as you have no data to back it up with? Do you see higher scores with blades and lower scores with other irons? Enough to statistically matter to get to a 95% CI? 

I have only played 2 rounds with blades, but I can say that they were both pretty low rounds. I had some good iron strikes. It is anecdotal evidence, however: perhaps I was playing well, perhaps I got lucky. I was well-positioned off of the tee. I can’t say for sure that I was better with these irons. Perhaps I was better as I dialed down my expectations and made smooth swings. I know a blade 8i isn’t going to fly 175, so I don’t try to hit it 175. That is completely mental, however. Make a smooth swing and hit to 165. 

For what it is worth, I play Mizuno MMC MP20s, but I also have a hybrid set of Callaway MB21/Apex Pros. And no, I don’t have enough rounds to say either way. I sure do like the way the MB21’s look when I line up, however!  

I should preface this in that I am talking about people with solid swing fundamentals. The guys/gals you see swing and say “low single digit/scratch/plus”. Their wear spot on their 7 iron might not be the size of a dime, but a nickel is pretty typical.”

And our members have been having their say on the matter in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • PuttingMatt: “Honestly, my scores stay relatively the same, whether I play musclebacks or player cavity backs. Ball striking is on the player, not the equipment. When I started playing, blades were your only choice; it is up to you to decide if your irons perform well for your game. The swing you deliver to the ball is everything.”
  • b.mattay: “Yes. Thin shots hang in there much better with a cavity back IMO. Long irons are also much easier to hit. I’m switching into cavity backs and a 4 hybrid for this next year. Don’t have data yet, but I guarantee my par 3 and par 5 scoring will drop this next year!”
  • Jim E: “Pure blades aren’t hard to hit in the short irons. In fact, I think it’s easier. It’s when you get to the 5,4,3 irons that pure blades are difficult. Higher cog means you need a more pure strike with decent clubhead speed to get these on a playable trajectory.”
  • bladehunter: “If you have some speed, there’s no negative effect that I’ve ever seen anybody quantify from say 5 iron down. Obviously, 2-3 iron will require pretty good everything ….. but many play a hybrid there anyway. Personal preference should be the reason for the Choice either way. If you’re hitting the relative middle it’s not performance.”

Entire Thread: “Do blades negatively impact performance? Or is it all in our heads? – GolfWRXers discuss”

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