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Forum Thread of the Day: “The conduct of the spectators at Bethpage Black”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Pauly567 who expressed his disapproval of the behavior of some spectators at the PGA Championship. Our members have been discussing the conduct of some of the spectators at Bethpage Black, and whether they feel that their behavior is acceptable, as well as what could occur when the course plays host to the 2024 Ryder Cup.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Ashley Schaeffer: “I don’t weigh in on crowd issues often, but this is on another level. I am very confused by the motivation of the New Yahker crowd in displaying these antics. Do the loudmouths think they are being funny? Do they not get enough attention in their personal lives? It’s honestly puzzling how one locale can produce so many incredibly annoying fans, and be somewhat celebrated for it. “Well, that’s just the New York crowd, hehehe” is misguided. We shouldn’t hand out passes for being obnoxious based on location.”
  • LeoLeo99: “Other than the 18th tee, didn’t hear any hooligans out on the course. They made Willett laugh so much serenading him with Danny Boy on the 18th tee that he threw them a ball. All good fun. Phil gave my wife a high 5 and Tony Finau autographed some stuff for wife and me. Almost no mud on course. Perfect weather. Very organized getting people to/ from the course and in the huge merchandise tent. If you go, you’ll do some walking.”
  • Dave230: “There’s no other sport you can get as close to the stars as in golf. If a player hit a ball into the rough, you can watch it happen from two yards behind them; it’s unique. It’s sad how people abuse that privilege. I never like when people compare it to getting abuse from crowds in other sports, it’s done from a distance and in an arena setting, it’s much easier to drown it out. If you’re at work and there’s lots of stuff going on in the office you can work. If there’s one person in your ear talking all the time, you’re going to be distracted.”
  • NoodleSalad: “What I find interesting is that despite all this talk about how atrocious the fans are, not a single pro has complained about them in post-round interviews. I’ve read all of the interviews, and no one has a negative thing to say. Odd isn’t it? Although Spieth credited them with helping him sink a birdie putt on 8: ‘Yeah, the crowd is yelling out that no one has got it to the hole yet and DJ hits it, and it kind of breaks less than it looks. I had a read, plus the crowd is hollering that everyone has left it short, so I just went off a little bit lower line than what DJ had, and luckily I was able to see that. You just try to get the right speed for the green and certainly it’s a bonus when it drops.’

Entire Thread: “The conduct of the spectators at Bethpage Black”

 

 

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  1. The weekday

    May 20, 2019 at 10:53 pm

    I personally love it, as long as they don’t patronize the golfer, or yell out mid swing.

  2. cg

    May 20, 2019 at 6:01 pm

    So many douche bags yelling and screaming for some attention. It just perpetuates the stereo typical New Yorker…. a rude A-hole.

  3. MikeyB

    May 20, 2019 at 3:24 pm

    The TV coverage definitely would make someone unfamiliar with golf think the patrons are drunken soccer hooligans. You can hear all kinds of random comments being shouted at players, some being cheered for, and others being booed.
    I honestly think the 16th hole at the WMI with its stadium seating and Roman Colesium vibe started this drunken boorish “It’s in da’ hole!” or “Mashed pah-tay-tah” or “Baba Booey!” scream fest that rivals a convention of tourette’s syndrome patients for random outbursts.
    How many of these people are ‘over refreshed’ is up for debate, and is removing these people a violation of their ‘free speech’ rights?
    I think the PGA needs to start airing commercials about fan decorum and start banning people for life from PGA events to get the point across.

  4. Jay Edward

    May 20, 2019 at 12:29 pm

    “What I find interesting is that despite all this talk about how atrocious the fans are, not a single pro has complained about them in post-round interviews”

    The pro’s don’t complain because they don’t want to be the victim of the drunk, look at me jerks in the future. Ask Monty, or Sergio how it feels to be the pro that fans know they can get to.

    • Scott

      May 20, 2019 at 2:03 pm

      Pretty much the same as complaining about Islam…you will be the bad guy.

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Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

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