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Forum Thread of the Day: “Slightly more forgiving players irons”
Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Z1ggy16 who is on the search for more forgiving players irons. Z1ggy16, who is a lefty, is currently gaming CB/MB combos, but while loving the classic look and feel of playing Miura irons, he’s on the hunt for a more forgiving option. Classic looking is a requirement, and our members dig in and share their preferred choices.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- fpyle3: “I play a set of Miura CBs, but have a set of 716 AP2s in a backup bag that are definitely more forgiving. The newest AP2s may be even better, and certainly, look better. As a lefty, you may be able to find a deal on something like that? I’ve owned the Mizzy MP54s, and while they felt pretty good and were relatively forgiving, they launched higher than I expected and played a little shorter than I had hoped.”
- bcsquare: “I would suggest the 718 AP2, and Apex Pro 19’s given your criteria. I’ve found both to be very forgiving for a player’s CB. 716 and 718 CB’s are another great choice. I’m curious why the MP-18SC didn’t work out. The MP-18MMC is quite good and has a bit firmer feel.”
- NixHex525: “S55s are great and very player looking…. The Srixon 7×5 series might also be worth a look, but my current J15 CB have been the most forgiving iron while still having that player look. Blade length is a touch longer than my 745s, but the top line is thinner, which I love. They have been phenomenal irons so far, good enough I put the S55s up for sale. Currently own those 3 and have enjoyed playing all of them from a feel and forgiveness standpoint.”
- KevCannon: “I will second the Cally X Forged, now I am definitely biased as I game those currently. I tested 18’ AP2, had played 16’ apex pro, MP 18sc and Mmc, two finalists were x forged and mp18 sc, x forged just felt better and softer.”
Entire Thread: “Slightly more forgiving player irons”
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- Kris Kim what’s in the bag accurate as of the CJ Cup Byron Nelson. More photos from the event here.
Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 (9 degrees @7)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 60 TX
3-wood: TaylorMade Qi10 Tour (15 degrees @13.5)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana WB 73 TX
Irons: TaylorMade P770 (2, 4), TaylorMade P7MB (5-PW)
Shafts: Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 80 TX (2), Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 120 X
Wedges: TaylorMade MG4 (50-09SB, 56-12SB, 60-11TW)
Shafts: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 WV 125
Putter: TaylorMade Spider Tour
Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord
Check out more in-hand photos of Kris Kim’s equipment here.
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TaylorMade is continuing its UDI/DHY series with the successor to the Stealth UDI and DHY utility irons: PUDI and PDHY (which the company styles as P·UDI and P·DHY). TaylorMade is folding the designs in with its P Series of irons.
TaylorMade outlined the process of developing its new utilities this way. The company started with the data on utility iron usage. Not surprisingly, better players — i.e. those who generate more clubhead speed and strike the ball more precisely — were found to gravitate toward the UDI model. DHY usage, however, covered a wider swath than the company might have expected with six-to-18 handicappers found to be bagging the club.
TaylorMade also found that the majority of golfers playing UDI or DHY utilities were playing P Series irons at the top of their iron configurations.
Can you see where this is going?
Matt Bovee, Director of Product Creation, Iron and Wedge at TaylorMade: “As we look to the future, beyond the tech and the design language, we are excited about repositioning our utility irons into the P·Series family. P·UDI is an easy pair for players that currently play P·Series product and P·DHY is an extremely forgiving option for players of all skill levels. It is a natural fit to give these players the performance in this category that they are looking for.”
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TaylorMade PUDI
TaylorMade PUDI technology cutaway (via TaylorMade)
Crafted with tour player input, TaylorMade sought to develop a confidence-inspiring utility iron that blends with the rest of the P Series irons. Also of note: Interestingly, the PUDI has a more compact head than the P790.
In comparison to past UDI products, the PUDI has a more traditional iron shape, slimmer toplines, and less offset with a little of the backbar visible at address.
TaylorMade PDHY
TaylorMade PDHY tech cutaway (via TaylorMade).
Larger in profile than the PUDI, the PDHY seeks to position center of gravity (CG) lower in the club for ease of launch. The toe height is larger and the profile is larger at address — roughly five millimeters longer than PUDI — the sole of the club is wider for improved forgiveness.
Club Junkie’s take
Golfers who feel like they are missing something at the top of the bag could find the PUDI or PDHY a great option. The look of the PUDI should fit the most discerning eye with a more compact look, less offset, and a thinner topline. If you want a little more confidence looking down the P-DHY will be slightly larger while still being a good-looking utility iron.
For being small packages both models pack a pretty good punch with fast ball speeds, even off-center. The feel is soft and you get a solid feel of the ball compressing off the face when you strike it well. Your ears are greeted with a nice heavy thud as the ball and club come together. The PDHY will launch a little higher for players who need it while the PUDI offers a more penetrating ball flight. Both utility irons could be the cure for an open spot in the top end of the bag.
PUDI, PDHY, or Rescue?
TaylorMade offers the following notes to assist golfers in filling out their bags:
- PUDI has mid-CG right behind the center face to create a more penetrating mid-to-low ball flight
- PDHY has a lower center of gravity to produce an easier-to-launch mid-to-high ball flight.
- Both PUDI and PDHY are lower-flying than the company’s hybrid/Rescue clubs.
- PUDI is more forgiving than P790.
- PDHY is the most forgiving iron in the entire TaylorMade iron family
Pricing, specs, and availability
Price: $249.99
At retail: Now
Stock shafts: UST Mamiya’s Recoil DART (105 X, 90 S and 75 R – only in PDHY)
Stock grip: Golf Pride’s ZGrip (black/grey)
PUDI lofts: 2-17°, 3-20°, 4-22° in both left and right-handed
PDHY lofts: 2-18°, 3-20° and 4-22° in both left and right-handed
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Coolest thing for sale in the GolfWRX Classifieds (5/3/24): Scotty Cameron Champions Choice 2.5+ putter
At GolfWRX, we are a community of like-minded individuals that all experience and express our enjoyment of the game in many ways.
It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball. It even allows us to share another thing we all love – buying and selling equipment.
Currently, in our GolfWRX buy/sell/trade (BST) forum, there is a listing for a Scotty Cameron Champions Choice 2.5+ putter
From the seller: (@wwcl): “Has been gamed as pics show. 33.5 includes original h/c and grip. $575 includes shipping and PP fees.”
To check out the full listing in our BST forum, head through the link: Scotty Cameron Champions Choice 2.5+ putter
This is the most impressive current listing from the GolfWRX BST, and if you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum you can check them out here: GolfWRX BST Rules
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Josh Dhadwa
Apr 15, 2019 at 6:00 am
Just went from the 714 ap2 to 718 mb. can’t wait to hit the course with them.
Chad
Apr 13, 2019 at 12:40 pm
MP32s all day
Michael Portus
Apr 13, 2019 at 11:49 am
Had both the 919 Tours and Taylormade p750 decided to go with P750s because of all of the success they’ve had on tour. Sergio’s Masters win, Xander’s rise even used them after signing with Callaway, McIlroy likes them in a long iron, Jason Day has won multiple times with them and so has Jon Rahm. Even the high level amateurs are using them. They feel great and perform very well imo.
jgpl001
Apr 13, 2019 at 12:59 pm
Couldn’t agree more on the p750’s, really good iron and has knocked mp18’s out of my bag
Michael Portus
Apr 13, 2019 at 10:02 pm
Straight butter!!!! Hard to explain unless you have them in hand!
Morris
Apr 13, 2019 at 6:00 am
I like this type of questions and almost all the time answers like this make me smile. The most important part of a golf club is the shaft not the head. Head is for beauty and shaft is for performance in the same way as driver is for show and putter for money. Ask every manufacturer or custom fitter and they will confirm. Of course for every head and for every swing there is a shaft according with what player want and need. So, go to a custom fitting centre and you will find there what you want for a most forgiving hit. But be carefull cause if you will change your swing after, you will need again another custom fitting session…
rex 235
Apr 12, 2019 at 9:32 pm
Aren’t the Mizuno 919 Tour Forged irons RH Only?
Asking for a few friends…
C
Apr 12, 2019 at 2:31 pm
Clearly it’s the 919 Tour. Can’t get any more forgiving than that for a player’S club. So easy to hit this thing