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TG2: Why does everyone want “Player’s Irons”? Epic Flash, M5, and M6 speculation

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7 years ago

Dec 13, 2018

In this episode of TG2, Knudson and Miller discuss Kevin Kisner’s comments about Patrick Reed. Also discussed: Who are players irons really for and why does every handicap want to play them? Finally, Knudson and Miller speculate about the new drivers from Callaway and TaylorMade.

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gticlay

Dec 21, 2018 at 5:14 am

Hopefully you guys read the comments, I’m curious if you will agree with me. For a terrible single digit golfer like me (I have an official 9 after this 2018 season having only played about 10 rounds in 2017 and less than that in 2016…), who doesn’t play very much golf, some of it is how the club look aesthetically. But, of course, we do know that any help with our iron game is welcome. However, there are other reasons – ones that I think are important – that a person might want a “players iron”. But I’ll define what I mean by that: Low offset and a square face. I personally still play the i3 blades – they have a touch more offset than I like, but they have a very forgiving cavity are much bigger face wise than most “playa irons”, and I don’t think they will ever wear out.

I would guess that many of the people on the thread you are referring to (I haven’t looked at it) are looking for a lower offset cavity back iron that sets up nicely and looks “cool”. Of course there will always be the people wanting to hit the VIP blades like you mentioned but for the most part, I think people get frustrated with a clunky looking iron with mega offset and really ugly graphics. Probably the ultimate players club that looked good, is super forgiving, and met all the criteria for what I’m talking about would be the TaylorMade 300 irons if you remember those. I wish I still had my set – but I remember when I first got them in the mail, probably from the BST here on golfwrx, they looked so big – like Eye2 big, but a nice shape, low offset, everything you want in a forgiving players iron. Then I bought set of the TM300 “goosen” version I think it was and THAT was a club I couldn’t hit very well.

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N Black

Dec 18, 2018 at 9:51 am

This argument is always anecdotes piled on more anecdotes. Nobody really does an objective, scientific test here (some claim to have done so, but usually muck it all up by comparing mismatched lofts or lengths or completely different shafts, or worst, have a sample size that is fundamentally meaningless.) Do a fair test, over a statistically significant set of rounds, over over a statistically significant set of different golfers and let us know what the real data says. Tell us about accuracy, consistency (not total distance, because that does not really matter unless you’re hitting driver or 3w on a par-5) and most importantly, effect on score/handicap over that population.

(And, no, a club pro or single club fitter’s “highly experienced” opinion isn’t nearly good enough – we need to see the numbers.)

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A. Commoner

Dec 15, 2018 at 11:05 am

What’s this “everyone” business? Today, careless use of the ‘King’s English’ is all too common.

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Bill

Dec 15, 2018 at 12:12 am

For myself it is just what I am used to looking down at. I came to golf a later than probably most players (about 40yrs old), started with hogan apex+ irons REALLY GREAT feel and forging. Next were the hogan apex FTX set — SUPERB, TRUE muscle blade combo, with thin top line, NOT a BULKY muscle, they were LONG and great feel off the face!! When hogan got bought out I went to Mizuno mp 32 iron — NOT as long as the FTX’s, but GREAT feel So — This is what have been used to— to make it harder; I am left handed, so choices are VERY limited. I can go very low in scoring, if I get consistent time to practice. When looking at irons,after playing the above clubs for YEARS, it is VERY hard to look down at clubs that are bulk look like a shovel. To top it off; I love the feel off these kinds of clubs, the IMMEDIATE feed back is great, I am okay if there are some miss hits,thats on ME, I do make plenty of mistakes, that is on ME, not the club. Play what you like , play what feels REALLY good to you!! Take responsibility for your game, have fun,enjoy the day and the course, Play on!!!

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JP

Dec 14, 2018 at 5:20 pm

We all want players irons because it gives an easy excuse for missing a shot.

“Damn these irons are unforgiving. I missed that shot by a millimeter only.”

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