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Forum Thread of the Day: “Guys that shoot under par, what clubs do you use?”
Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from BiggEm, who asks those GolfWRX members that happen to break par consistently, what clubs they use. Driver and irons are the clubs in question which BiggEm is interested in hearing about, and as well as many posters submitting the clubs they use, an interesting debate regarding “arrow vs archer” has developed, as well as general playing tips from posters while out on the course.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- cm24: “5 years ago, When I was actually playing really well (for me), and I was in the +2 handicap range I was playing a set of Mizuno mp68 irons. Sold those for AP2s and never have brought my game back. I went thru 8 sets of irons over the three years after I sold the Mizunos and finally settled on a set of Srixon z965s. I think those under par days are coming back, my birdies are going up as my proximity to the hole is going thru the roof, and it’s leading to confidence across my game.”
- SASpeeder: “Not shooting under par quite as regularly anymore but still gaming the same equipment. Driver: Taylor M2 9.5” 2016 model with Diamana BF 60TX shaft. Irons: Miura CB1008 with KBS $Taper S+ shafts”
- u2hockey14: “Adam Scott went back to his Titleist 910D3 this year due to accuracy issues, and he started to play better instantly. The bottom line is, for accomplished players, if you find a driver you can hit straight and are confident with it, stick with it. The extra 4-8 yards you get with “today’s” technology isn’t worth giving up that confidence and accuracy.”
- leejohnkieh: “I’ve recently gotten my scores back down to even/under par after I got rid of drivers that didn’t work. For me, it’s all about feel and look. I went from 910d2 to a 17′ M1 to an M2 then to an M3 and now to the Ts3 in a span of 3 years. Tried every shaft known to man and I just could not get by round after round with TM drivers. Wildly inconsistent. I’d play tourneys not knowing where my driver was gonna go that day.”
Entire Thread: “Guys that shoot under par. What clubs do you use?”
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- Kris Kim what’s in the bag accurate as of the CJ Cup Byron Nelson. More photos from the event here.
Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 (9 degrees @7)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 60 TX
3-wood: TaylorMade Qi10 Tour (15 degrees @13.5)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana WB 73 TX
Irons: TaylorMade P770 (2, 4), TaylorMade P7MB (5-PW)
Shafts: Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 80 TX (2), Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 120 X
Wedges: TaylorMade MG4 (50-09SB, 56-12SB, 60-11TW)
Shafts: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 WV 125
Putter: TaylorMade Spider Tour
Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord
Check out more in-hand photos of Kris Kim’s equipment here.
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TaylorMade is continuing its UDI/DHY series with the successor to the Stealth UDI and DHY utility irons: PUDI and PDHY (which the company styles as P·UDI and P·DHY). TaylorMade is folding the designs in with its P Series of irons.
TaylorMade outlined the process of developing its new utilities this way. The company started with the data on utility iron usage. Not surprisingly, better players — i.e. those who generate more clubhead speed and strike the ball more precisely — were found to gravitate toward the UDI model. DHY usage, however, covered a wider swath than the company might have expected with six-to-18 handicappers found to be bagging the club.
TaylorMade also found that the majority of golfers playing UDI or DHY utilities were playing P Series irons at the top of their iron configurations.
Can you see where this is going?
Matt Bovee, Director of Product Creation, Iron and Wedge at TaylorMade: “As we look to the future, beyond the tech and the design language, we are excited about repositioning our utility irons into the P·Series family. P·UDI is an easy pair for players that currently play P·Series product and P·DHY is an extremely forgiving option for players of all skill levels. It is a natural fit to give these players the performance in this category that they are looking for.”
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TaylorMade PUDI
TaylorMade PUDI technology cutaway (via TaylorMade)
Crafted with tour player input, TaylorMade sought to develop a confidence-inspiring utility iron that blends with the rest of the P Series irons. Also of note: Interestingly, the PUDI has a more compact head than the P790.
In comparison to past UDI products, the PUDI has a more traditional iron shape, slimmer toplines, and less offset with a little of the backbar visible at address.
TaylorMade PDHY
TaylorMade PDHY tech cutaway (via TaylorMade).
Larger in profile than the PUDI, the PDHY seeks to position center of gravity (CG) lower in the club for ease of launch. The toe height is larger and the profile is larger at address — roughly five millimeters longer than PUDI — the sole of the club is wider for improved forgiveness.
Club Junkie’s take
Golfers who feel like they are missing something at the top of the bag could find the PUDI or PDHY a great option. The look of the PUDI should fit the most discerning eye with a more compact look, less offset, and a thinner topline. If you want a little more confidence looking down the P-DHY will be slightly larger while still being a good-looking utility iron.
For being small packages both models pack a pretty good punch with fast ball speeds, even off-center. The feel is soft and you get a solid feel of the ball compressing off the face when you strike it well. Your ears are greeted with a nice heavy thud as the ball and club come together. The PDHY will launch a little higher for players who need it while the PUDI offers a more penetrating ball flight. Both utility irons could be the cure for an open spot in the top end of the bag.
PUDI, PDHY, or Rescue?
TaylorMade offers the following notes to assist golfers in filling out their bags:
- PUDI has mid-CG right behind the center face to create a more penetrating mid-to-low ball flight
- PDHY has a lower center of gravity to produce an easier-to-launch mid-to-high ball flight.
- Both PUDI and PDHY are lower-flying than the company’s hybrid/Rescue clubs.
- PUDI is more forgiving than P790.
- PDHY is the most forgiving iron in the entire TaylorMade iron family
Pricing, specs, and availability
Price: $249.99
At retail: Now
Stock shafts: UST Mamiya’s Recoil DART (105 X, 90 S and 75 R – only in PDHY)
Stock grip: Golf Pride’s ZGrip (black/grey)
PUDI lofts: 2-17°, 3-20°, 4-22° in both left and right-handed
PDHY lofts: 2-18°, 3-20° and 4-22° in both left and right-handed
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Coolest thing for sale in the GolfWRX Classifieds (5/3/24): Scotty Cameron Champions Choice 2.5+ putter
At GolfWRX, we are a community of like-minded individuals that all experience and express our enjoyment of the game in many ways.
It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball. It even allows us to share another thing we all love – buying and selling equipment.
Currently, in our GolfWRX buy/sell/trade (BST) forum, there is a listing for a Scotty Cameron Champions Choice 2.5+ putter
From the seller: (@wwcl): “Has been gamed as pics show. 33.5 includes original h/c and grip. $575 includes shipping and PP fees.”
To check out the full listing in our BST forum, head through the link: Scotty Cameron Champions Choice 2.5+ putter
This is the most impressive current listing from the GolfWRX BST, and if you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum you can check them out here: GolfWRX BST Rules
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ogo
Dec 3, 2018 at 6:42 pm
“What clubs do I use?”…. I use all the clubs in my WITB arsenal of golf destruction!!! 😮
TONEY P
Nov 21, 2018 at 12:08 pm
As a scratch golfer for 25+ years , I’ve played cast, forged, cavity back, and muscleback irons, the club’s didn’t matter but the skill level you acquire to use them effectively to string together shots to score. Metal woods have made it easier to hit fairways and the newer irons fly straighter. the wedges are better but the biggest difference in scoring has been the ball. It’s longer and flyes straight but it not as good around the greens as balls 20 years ago.
ogo
Nov 21, 2018 at 10:41 pm
Is the shaft flex more important than the iron heads for your skill level? If your shaft was wrong flex/weight could you still play par golf? Also could you play your old TM Pittsburgh Persimmon driver with the tiny head as well as the current 460cc Ti cans on a stick? Congrats on your performance longevity.
Birdswing
Nov 21, 2018 at 8:35 am
I use 917d3 10.5, 910f 17, vapor pro combo 2 iron, be pro combo 4 thru PW and 54/60 engage wedges.
Important club is the Odyssey mxm no9 prototype putter though.
Not a regular sub par player but certainly shot several under par rounds this year
ogo
Nov 20, 2018 at 7:04 pm
Yes Yes Yes !!!!! It’s all in the clubs you bag…. and the newer the clubs the lower your sub-par score… it’s soooooo obvious …. 😮
KB
Nov 20, 2018 at 10:36 am
Re u2hockey14, leejohnkieh posts. So true, couldn’t agree more.
SR
Nov 20, 2018 at 10:50 am
Then go post on the forum, duh.
This space is only for slander lol
ogo
Nov 22, 2018 at 3:41 pm
Yes… “slander” on this forum is “reality” and “truth”… while the “love-besotted” gearheads circle jerk on the main forum. Thank you for this fair and fine forum provided by the fine folks at GolfWRX.