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Forum Thread of the Day: “How is Patrick Cantlay not getting penalized for slow play?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from TheInfidel, who during Sunday’s fourth round at the Shriners expressed his frustration with Patrick Cantlay’s speed (or lack of it) on the course. Pace of play is a contentious issue right now in golf, and after Corey Pavin’s slow play penalty on the Champions Tour last month, many of our members would like to see officials take action more often on the PGA Tour.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • elwhippy: “He is purgatory. Horsfield tweeted he knows he has an issue and is doing something about it. Cantlay is getting beyond belief. The 2019 rules revisions are about speeding up play but obviously touring pros will be exempt.”
  • the bishop: “I agree that watching Cantlay is frustrating but slow play on the Tour is a collective effort.  Hard to tell watching on TV but was his group ever out of position?  I wonder if Tour officials give some slack on individual times if a group is not out of position if getting them to hurry up would only serve to have them wait even longer to hit their next shots.”
  • GMN_02: “Need to start penalizing players.  5% or 10% of the FedEx Cup points the player would earn from the event for every slow play penalty.  This won’t take them out of the round mentally like a stroke penalty would but the repercussions of losing those points over a whole season could be meaningful enough to make some players speed it up.”
  • IVM: “Here is the answer, if they are slow for more than two holes and they lose a hole then disqualify the group. That will stop slow play.”

Entire Thread: “How is Patrick Cantlay not getting penalized for slow play?”

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10 Comments

10 Comments

  1. NormW

    Nov 12, 2018 at 11:40 am

    The Tournament should put them on notice, maybe have them sign an agreement before accepting the entry. It’s a performance contract and they are contractors.

  2. The Infidel

    Nov 11, 2018 at 6:16 am

    Cantlay is singled out here, but the topic certainly needs addressed more seriously by the Tour and the PGA. Join the conversation!

  3. Bert Gwaltney

    Nov 9, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    This is the PGA Tour, get accustomed to it continuing, after all it’s an entertainment business.

  4. Tom54

    Nov 9, 2018 at 4:47 pm

    I have a possible solution for at least the viewers. The known slow pokes all should be on delay. Skip all the antics and show us only about the last seconds before they hit their shots. At least we don’t have to suffer, only their fellow playing partners. They are always using tape delays, so just let them always be on delay or don’t cut to them until they hit.

  5. JP

    Nov 9, 2018 at 4:33 pm

    Playing with go slow golfers is the reason I rarely play. My home club is full of them.

  6. Curt

    Nov 9, 2018 at 3:58 pm

    They make so much money DQ then all for being slow. Such good equipment these days if you are slow you don’t deserve to be on tour. Essentially ever sport has a time limit.

  7. Keith

    Nov 9, 2018 at 2:58 pm

    This is a dangerous situation. The fasters are attempting to discriminate against the slows. Slows have rights. Even though they were born biologically faster, they identify as slows, and their choice should be embraced and encouraged.

  8. Mike Honcho

    Nov 9, 2018 at 1:18 pm

    Cantlay makes J.B. Holmes look like Usain Bolt

  9. joro

    Nov 9, 2018 at 12:49 pm

    When is the last time a slow player was penalized, at least one that is a name player. The PGA Tour is total BS in the fact they ignore the rule, and Golf is suffering for that. Kids watch Golf and see slow and think it is fine, and the announcers contribute when they are alway saying be careful and don’t hit until you are ready, you have to wonder is any of them are really ready.

    • Al

      Nov 9, 2018 at 6:33 pm

      It kills me when something bothers a player and they step away. Then the announcer says do the right thing and go through the entire routine again. NOOOOOOOO!!!

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In our forums, our members have been discussing the most forgiving wedges on the market. WRXer ‘aaronpoling’ lays out his current setup and what he’s currently considering, saying:

“I am looking at getting new wedges, but looking for a forgiving wedge.

I currently play Ping G25 50°, MD4 54° and 58°. I used to play the CBX2 in the 50°, 54° and 58° and liked them a lot; but like any good dad, my son took them.

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And our members have been weighing in with their thoughts and recommendations in response, with one brand coming out emphatically on top.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

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In our forums, our members have been reacting to a WRXer who claims to have built the “worst fitting clubs ever.” ‘dlow206’ recounts his experience with plenty of insightful findings for where he can go better next time in a detailed post, saying:

“Here’s my story of building the worst fitting clubs ever (for me). And my findings of what a better fit is.

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Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

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A second version of PXG’s Secret Weapon has this week landed on the USGA’s conforming list, much to the interest of our members.

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In our forums, our members have been assessing the new version and sharing their thoughts.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

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Entire Thread: “PXG Secret Weapon Version 2 mini driver lands on USGA conforming list – GolfWRXers react”

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