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Jason Day says any move to curtail distance would hurt the game

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Recently, there has been plenty of debate regarding whether or not action ought to be taken with regards to the distance that the golf ball is traveling in the modern game. Earlier this year, Dustin Johnson hit a 489-yard drive at the WGC-Dell Match Play, and with the constant innovations in technology in the golfing world, there is a belief among some groups that the distance in the modern game is out of control and in danger of making some old courses obsolete.

One of the longest hitters on the PGA Tour, Jason Day, weighed in on the discussion in an interview with Golf Digest. He has made it clear that he doesn’t want any restrictions when it comes to distance in the game. The Australian was adamant that fans of the game want to see the ball hit as far as possible, and any attempt to curtail this would see a drop-off in viewership.

“Do I want the ball to go shorter? No. Why? Isn’t it fun watching Dustin Johnson crush a drive over a lake 300 yards away? No one wants to see someone plod it down the right and not take it on. That’s boring. If you push trying to rein it in too far, then people will stop watching golf. People want to see risk.”

Day ranked 17th in driving distance for the 2017-18 season, averaging 309.7 yards off the tee. The former world number one also believes that the focus should be on modern course designers, and not equipment manufacturers, who he criticizes for creating longer courses.

“The problem is the architects—some of them, anyway—decided that because the ball is going forever, they need to make courses longer to make them harder,” he said. “No, you don’t. Just be a better architect.”

The distance debate is not likely to go away any time soon. Do you agree with Day’s stance, or should measures be taken to rein in the distance that professionals are currently hitting the ball?

Let us know your thoughts.

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  1. Justin

    Oct 16, 2018 at 7:16 pm

    You could also start to make the fairways VERY narrow around the 300 yard mark. This would make the players decide whether to hit it 280 yards into a 40 yard fairway or 320 yards into a 20 yard fairway. This would a create a larger risk/reward scenario instead of letting them smash it 350 with no serious penalty for being in the rough or trees. This is only 1 solution out of many.

  2. Nathan

    Oct 15, 2018 at 1:50 pm

    I’d love to see tighter fairways, longer rough, more dangerously sloped (if not faster) greens. Long can be good, but I want to see the pros drive it dead straight (or shaped) every time. I want to watch purity not power.

  3. McFadden

    Oct 13, 2018 at 8:41 pm

    I agree with Day and the other comments on here. Start putting fairway bunkers 300 yards out from the tee too.Also nothing more boring than a flat and straight 200 yard par 3. Id rather see more par 3s like the Postage Stamp and #12 (Golden Bell) at Augusta. Like Day said we like to see risk/reward situations and put a premium on accuracy. It wont totally eliminate the guys from bombing it and would make it more exciting when the do decide to go NLU style!

  4. Kevin

    Oct 13, 2018 at 7:49 pm

    Day is absolutely right that architects making longer courses is making the problem worse. On a shorter more imaginatively designed course that goads you into hitting shots that are actually riskier than they look (Tobacco Road, Sanford, NC a Mike Strantz masterpiece is a wonderful example of this) you actually level the playing field more. Tobacco Road maxes out at 6800 yards, but big hitters, short hitters can all play to their strengths in highly entertaining ways. A shorter golf course also lets you see the real gap between the best players and the posers….

    • thánh

      Oct 14, 2018 at 11:11 am

      Great article for the beginners like us . I am a new in this game and enjoying the adventure.

  5. BL

    Oct 13, 2018 at 8:11 am

    Anyone else notice Jason Day has a new Accra shaft in that driver?

  6. BD57

    Oct 12, 2018 at 10:00 pm

    Harbor Town holds up well, year after year, and it is not “monster long.”

    Grow the rough, narrow the fairways, make accuracy mean something.

  7. Scheiss

    Oct 12, 2018 at 5:24 pm

    Jason, it’s not the architects’ fault.
    It’s your PGA Tour, its set ups that are at fault.
    There is not a course out there that couldn’t grow the grass taller. Including the fairway, that could be softened up – a lot.
    The fairways need to be softer and narrower.
    The rough needs two more inches – at every course.
    That’ll solve everything.

  8. Brian McGranahan

    Oct 12, 2018 at 5:23 pm

    Look what they did to the guys in France. Just make more courses like that. Every PGA event needs knee high rough pinched in at 300yds. That will solve everything.

  9. Justin

    Oct 12, 2018 at 3:06 pm

    The winning score at the 2013 US Open at Merion was +1 and the course played a mere 6900 yards each round. The cut after the second round was +8 and a there were only a handful of rounds under par in the entire tournament. This is definitive evidence that course design and setup has a much larger effect on scores than does course length. It is obvious that championship golf can easily be played on these historic golf courses and that great designs will always challenge the best players in the game regardless of driving distance. Trying to put limits on the golf ball seems to misunderstand the problem entirely.

  10. Travis

    Oct 12, 2018 at 1:58 pm

    I agree, a course doesn’t have to be longer to be more challenging or to accommodate longer hitters.

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Morning 9: LIV golfers’ Masters expectations | Reed wants LIV Masters win | ANWA champ 4-stroke penalty

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By Ben Alberstadt with Gianni Magliocco.

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Good Thursday morning, golf fans, as day one of the Valero Texas Open gets underway where players have their last chance to clinch a spot at next week’s Masters.

1. Don’t expect awkwardness

ESPN’s Mark Schlabach…”Speaking to reporters ahead of this week’s LIV Golf League tournament at Orange County National in Orlando, Florida, Reed said Wednesday that the first major championship of the season won’t be about the competing circuits.”

  • “…Augusta National Golf Club elected to keep the same qualifying criteria it used in the past to determine the field for the 87th Masters. There are 18 players in the 89-man field from the LIV Golf League, including four other past champions: Dustin Johnson, Sergio Garcia, Phil Mickelson and Charl Schwartzel.”
  • “Obviously, the media and the storylines are going to be obviously LIV versus PGA Tour and all that kind of stuff, but really, at the majors, top players in the world are going and playing against each other no matter where they come from,” Reed said. “For us, at least for myself, it’s going to be business as usual going out and playing.”
Full piece.

2. Reed: I’d love if a LIV golfer won the Masters

James Corrigan for The Telegraph…”Reed is one of six former Augusta champions on the Saudi-funded circuit, but says that if he replicated his 2018 success it would be a bigger deal.”

  • “If you’re able to go out and win, it brings a boost not only to yourself, but to the league and the team that you’re on,” he said, here at the Orange County National Golf Course where the third LIV Golf event of the season begins on Friday.
  • “Now it’s just not sharing it with yourself and your inner circle but you’re sharing it with these guys out there. It would just be huge for morale.”
Full piece.

3. Zhang leads ANWA

Beth Ann Nichols for Golfweek…”Rose Zhang said her father, Haibin, feverishly swept away the pine needles that were in the line of her 50-foot birdie putt on the 14th hole Wednesday at Champions Retreat.”

  • “He was doing it like a maniac,” said Zhang, “and I was low-key kind of telling him to calm down in terms of trying to help me get the little stuff out of the way.”
  • Top-ranked Zhang drained the putt and later thanked dad for the assist. It was one of six birdies on the day for Zhang, who posted a record 6-under 66 at Champions Retreat, besting the previous record of 68 carded by 2019 champion Jennifer Kupcho and Zoe Campos in the opening round in the inaugural event. Zhang birdied all four par 5s and leads Ole Miss senior Andrea Lignell by one stroke.
  • “With the round being so soft and being muddy,” said Zhang, “I can’t really expect anything more out of my game today.”
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4. Defending champ hit with 4-stroke penalty

Brentley Romine for Golf Channel…”Anna Davis’ title defense got off to a rough start Wednesday morning at the Augusta National Women’s Amateur.”

  • “On the opening hole of the 17-year-old’s opening round at Champions Retreat, the par-4 first on the Island nine, Davis committed two rules violations in which she lifted, cleaned and placed her ball in the rough, or second cut. The news was first reported by GolfChannel.com, which spoke to several witnesses.”
  • “Preferred lies are in effect for the first two rounds, but only in “areas cut to fairway height or less,” according to a memo sent by the competitions committee. Players were informed on Tuesday night that Model Local Rule E-3, which allows for preferred lies, would be adopted.”
  • “The verbiage of the MLR includes, “The use of this local rule outside the fairway in the general area is not recommended.”
  • “After her round, Davis was officially handed a pair of two-shot penalties under Rule 9.4 for, per an official statement from the tournament headquarters, twice lifting her ball and failing to replace it in its original spot.”
Full piece.

5. Bubba and Brooks on LIV tensions at Augusta

Cameron Jourdan for Golfweek…”In recent weeks, there has been plenty of discussion about how LIV golfers would interact with those from the PGA Tour and whether it would be tense. However, Watson and Koepka said don’t expect anything to happen.”

  • “I’m going to be honest, man. It’s only awkward in the media,” Watson said. “I’ve talked to people that are going to be there. I’m going to sign up with Jason Day and Cam Young in the par 3. Some guys have already asked me to play some practice rounds. Media is the only one that is pushing it. I have nothing against anybody. If you change jobs, I’m not mad at you. If you start reporting for somebody else, hey, man, it’s a better decision for you and your family.”
  • “Added Koepka: “I think that’s one of the big things. Down in Jupiter, we see each other — I was just with Rory (McIlroy) and J.T. (Justin Thomas) yesterday, and I think Keegan (Bradley) was there. We see each other quite a bit. I mean, there’s a lot of conversations. I was talking with Rory for probably about 30 minutes just about the ball and all the other stuff that’s going on. No one is angry at anybody from what I’ve seen.”
Full piece.

6. Patrick Reed wonders if Augusta’s new 13th hole has lost ‘a little bit of excitement’

Evin Priest for Golf Digest…”Even Dustin Johnson was laying up. That’s the takeaway from 2018 Masters champion Patrick Reed after seeing Augusta National and its new, lengthening par-5 13th during a two-day reconnaissance trip to the famed course with his fellow green jacket winner and Harold Varner III last week.”

  • “At last year’s Masters, the iconic 13th measured 510 yards from the tips. But this year, it will max out at 545 yards according to the 2023 Masters media guide Augusta National. The hole is now 60 yards longer than when Tiger Woods won his first Masters in 1997.”
  • “D.J. laid up both days,” Reed said Wednesday at Orange County National, ahead of this week’s LIV Golf Orlando tournament. “I laid up [once]. Tournament time I would have laid up, but since we’re out there seeing it, I of course went [full] send.”
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Driver: Cobra Aerojet LS (9 degrees)

Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana Prototype 70 X

3-wood: Cobra Aerojet LS (14.5 degrees @13.5 degrees)

Shaft: Aldila Tour Green 75 TX

5-wood: Cobra LTDx LS (17.5 degrees)

Shaft: UST Mamiya LINQ 8F5

Irons: Cobra King Tour (4-PW)

Shafts: KBS Tour C-Taper 125 S+

Wedges: Cobra King Forged (54, 56 and 58 degrees)

Shafts: KBS Tour 610

Putter: Odyssey Versa Jailbird

Grip: SuperStroke Tour 3.0 17-inch

Ball: TaylorMade TP5x

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Photos from the 2023 Valero Texas Open

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Ah, the Valero Texas Open — a tournament as rich in history as it is in Texan charm. The event has been around since 1922, making it one of the oldest on the PGA Tour calendar.

Over the years, it’s been held at a variety of courses across the Lone Star State, but it’s found its home at TPC San Antonio in recent years. Some of the biggest names in golf have taken home the title here, including Arnold Palmer, Ben Hogan, Lee Trevino, and Ben Crenshaw. But the real star of the show? That would have to be the legendary Texan wind, which can turn a benign par-4 into a 500-yard monster faster than you can say “y’all.”

Per usual, GolfWRX was on site to check out what the pros are playing with the Masters just a week away.

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Spotted: Odyssey Tri-Hot 5K Three “anti-right” prototype putter

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Odyssey Tri-Hot 5K putters have really taken off on tour, and we have seen a handful of models in tour player’s bags. The latest version we spotted out on tour is a very unique design.

Odyssey makes this putter head with a standard flow neck that offers plenty of toe hang for golfers who prefer or need that weighting. This prototype has a long slant neck installed more near the center of the putter head that lets the toe sit slightly up in the air when held horizontally. This is pretty different since most putters sit with the toe hanging down towards the ground or are face balanced (face sits parallel to the ground). A full shaft offset looks to be achieved with the slant neck and the look at address is definitely different.

We spoke to Callaway PGA Tour manager Joe Toulon about the putter and he had the following to say

“On course [we had a player who] had a little push bias that didn’t necessarily show up in practice but it is something that he felt on course. So we wanted to build something that was a little easier to release and maybe not necessarily open the toe as much in the back stroke and not have to work as hard to release it in the through stroke. That was kind of designed to give a little offset and when you rested it on your finger it would rest toe up a little bit. We thought for that player it would help him square the putter face at impact rather than leave it open a little bit.

“It was more of a concept we had and will continue to work on it. When we had it on the truck and we were hitting some putts with it we noticed that you had to work really hard to push this putter. We wanted to make an anti-right putter. Just a fun little concept that we have an idea and work with our tour department to test things out.

“It isn’t something that ended up in a player’s bag but we learned some things in that process and will keep in mind for future builds and projects.”

The finish also looks to be a little different than the standard Tri-Hot 5K putter’s black and silver motif. The face and neck are finished in silver and the rear done in more of a blueish-gray tone. The White Hot insert looks to be standard and the sole still contains two interchangeable weights.

The shaft looks to be painted in the same metallic red as their standard Stroke Lab shaft, but we don’t see a steel tip section. Not sure if this putter has a full graphite shaft or painted steel.

Toe sitting slightly up

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