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TrackMan 4 will have Impact Location feedback (2018 PGA Show Day 1)

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TrackMan users will now be able to get feedback on where they hit the ball on the face… finally!

As early as April 1, according to TrackMan, its TrackMan 4 will have the capability to provide feedback on impact location using its optically enhanced radar tracking system. Basically, the TrackMan 4 will use a combination of the radar system and the camera that’s on the system to get feedback on club-to-ball impact.

Actually, as TrackMan explained, its TrackMan 4 has been using the optically enhanced radar system in its putting analysis software that released in mid-December. See that orange line in the photo above? That line is the product of TrackMan using its radar and camera to provide feedback.

Except now, users will get what they’ve wanted from TrackMan for awhile; feedback on face impact on full swings, including impact height, impact offset, dynamic lie, and an orange dot that estimates where impact occurred.

In order to use the impact location capability, TrackMan 4 owners will need to order a subscription, which costs $1000 per year. Or, for buyers who purchase the TrackMan 4 after the capability is released, there will be no subscription necessary, according to the company.

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  1. Francis

    Jan 26, 2018 at 6:48 am

    TrackMan measures ball until it lands or hits the net, indoors or outdoors. It also measures all club and impact data between waist high to waist high on follow through. Optical systems simply see about 1-1.5’ft of ball/club and then apply algorithms to predict ball flight. The comments to the contrary above are flat out incorrect.

    To be clear, “measuring” and “calculating” are the same thing: both require a series of inputs that create an output. The difference between the two types of systems lies in sample rates (how many data points in specific period of time), measurement precision (consistency) and measurement accuracy (how close to actual value).

    This is an easy test. Hit a ball full flight with a TM and any other products, and watch the ACTUAL landing point very carefully. This is the reason it is overwhelmingly used by EQMs, Tour players, colleges and coaches.

    TM is a fantastic product, with no club making stickers needed to measure club data. The comments claiming the contrary are disingenuous at best.

    • LEOMODE

      Jan 27, 2018 at 2:29 am

      How would you respond to Trackman losing to GC series indoor? I know at least 5-6 hardly loyal GC users who would think Trackman is simply way inferior than GC series because of how the radar is made. I explain it to them in my test since they never had or tested side by side, but they are pretty firm on their mindset.

      I agree on the part that if there is not enough space of at least 21ft (9ft from TM to ball, 12ft from ball to screen) and without a metallic sticker on a ball, TM would not output data (not entirely inaccurate, only except ball spin), since TM doesn’t show any data if its not confident. However in my testing indoor data was within tolerance with HMT data.

      What would you say to a radar system indoor in general vs a camera system?

  2. joey

    Jan 25, 2018 at 7:32 pm

    What do you mean by real time data? The quad measures everything. The only thing that is calculated is carry distance, peak and curvature. This is based on accurate measurements of ball speed, spin axis and launch angle. Pretty much everything that the TM does with club data is based upon ball data (which it only measures ball flight up to 170m, the rest is algorithm). Try and test a quad outside against a TM4 and look at the numbers. Either way, both are really good products in their own right, but my money is on the quad due to indoor/outdoor use and the fact that TM charges annual fees and fees for software upgrades.

  3. Ollie

    Jan 25, 2018 at 3:09 pm

    But it doesn’t matter any more where you hit on the clubface because new clubs are so forgiving.
    Twist Face driver technology, jello-filled hollow irons, amazing putter structures and face patterns, all provide the serious golfer with results that obviate the need for radar-optical determination of impact location.
    TM, PXG, Scotty, have engineered-out the miss-hit errors in their technologically advanced club designs.

    • BP

      Jan 25, 2018 at 10:49 pm

      Ollie !!!

    • BDS

      Jan 26, 2018 at 1:58 pm

      I guess I need to buy the clubs that don’t care if I heel it, toe it, blade it or chunk it. Because if those clubs are out there I can’t wait to buy them and be a scratch golfer!

  4. Frankie

    Jan 25, 2018 at 11:28 am

    Why pay $25k with a $1k yearly subscription for something that’s only calculating the club data and impact spot (TrackMan 4) when you can pay $18k one-time no subscription for something that actually measures the club data and impact spot (Foresight GC Quad)?

    • Eric

      Jan 25, 2018 at 12:12 pm

      bc GCQuad is camera based and does not provide real time ball data/club data, different purposes altogether.

  5. CB

    Jan 25, 2018 at 2:54 am

    It’s still guessing where it hit. How does anything, or anybody, accurately spot where on the face it hits if it’s looking at it from the back of it? It’s like looking at somebody’s back of the head and imagining what they look like lol

    • the dude

      Jan 25, 2018 at 8:51 am

      good point…maybe im missing something that is illustrated

    • LEOMODE

      Jan 27, 2018 at 2:37 am

      That is what amazes me of Trackman calculating all these data without seeing it and STILL be within a tolerance limit of a camera system. This is just wonders.

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