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Can a golfer control the club face after impact?

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Most networks that cover major golf tournaments have a high-speed camera that shows slow-motion replays of golfer’s swings — mainly impact — during the broadcast. It shows the clubface opening and closing after impact. At the Tour Championship at East Lake Golf Club last weekend, Johnny Miller insisted on NBC that the player is responsible for the closing and opening of the clubface through impact. This is simply not right.

The opening and closing is caused by the impact point on the face. A hit near the the toe opens the face and a hit near the heel closes it. I’m not sure why or how they feel the player is responsible.  This just cant be done.  The “no twist” point on the face has to be struck for the face to uh, not twist.  One way or the other. It matters not how strong the player is, you cannot hold the face square if there is an off center contact. Science tells us so.

This is a good lesson for everybody. When the ball is hit near the toe (for a right-handed golfer) the face opens but horizontal gear effect spins it back to the left.  A lot of  right to left hooks are hit this way.  When the ball is hit near the heel the face closes but gear effect spins it right.  A lot of left to right slices are hit this way. It is very difficult to draw it off the heel or fade it off the toe.  If you remember my last article, I discussed the idea of “Raising your golf IQ.”  This is precisely the type of information I was referring to.

We know that in order to draw the ball we need a path inside where the face is pointed at impact; and just the opposite for a fade. But here’s the catch.  When the path is coming from the inside out, it is easier to hit near the heel.  And when the path is ouside in it is easier to hit near the toe. Both of these impact points are the exact opposite of what we need for the that desried shot.  Tough game this golf!

A great idea is to spray a little Dr. Scholl’s foot spray on your club face. You will find out quite quickly where you are striking it on the face.  And you’ll find out why you may not be getting the shape of shot you want even if your face/path relationship is the desired one.

As always, feel free to send a swing video to my Facebook page and I will do my best to give you my feedback.

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Dennis Clark is a PGA Master Professional. Clark has taught the game of golf for more than 30 years to golfers all across the country, and is recognized as one of the leading teachers in the country by all the major golf publications. He is also is a seven-time PGA award winner who has earned the following distinctions: -- Teacher of the Year, Philadelphia Section PGA -- Teacher of the Year, Golfers Journal -- Top Teacher in Pennsylvania, Golf Magazine -- Top Teacher in Mid Atlantic Region, Golf Digest -- Earned PGA Advanced Specialty certification in Teaching/Coaching Golf -- Achieved Master Professional Status (held by less than 2 percent of PGA members) -- PGA Merchandiser of the Year, Tri State Section PGA -- Golf Professional of the Year, Tri State Section PGA -- Presidents Plaque Award for Promotion and Growth of the Game of Golf -- Junior Golf Leader, Tri State section PGA -- Served on Tri State PGA Board of Directors. Clark is also former Director of Golf and Instruction at Nemacolin Woodlands Resort. He now directs his own school, The Dennis Clark Golf Academy at the JW Marriott Marco Island in Naples, Fla.. He can be reached at [email protected]

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  1. jesse

    Dec 20, 2012 at 12:31 am

    Gees Guys! Lets see if we can figure this out, without too much grief. Lighten up.
    The ball is on the clubhead a very short period of time. It is all about “angles” The angle that the shaft brings the clubhead into the ball is key. However, if the clubhead is at the wrong angle to your target line (assuming the shaft angle is correct) the ball trajectory and sping dictates the direction. Simple as that sounds, anyone can figure it out with a ping pong paddle.

  2. tlmck

    Oct 8, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    I can hit a heel hook and a toe slice just fine thank you.

  3. Ian

    Oct 4, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    Have you listened to Johnny Miller?
    He’s wrong about 90% of the time. Dennis and
    Track man have got it right

  4. ChuckF.

    Oct 2, 2012 at 7:30 am

    Jacob, Pebo, and S Safran,
    Read the article first, then try to give your opinion. The article is clearly about off center hits and all youre wanting to do it try to prove Dennis wrong. You weren’t asked to write an article, Dennis was.

  5. Pebo

    Oct 1, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    1/10,000 or a second.

  6. dennis

    Sep 30, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    We are not assuming center contact; read the article. Upon centerdness of impact what you are trying to do CAN be done. The article states that upon NON CENTER impact what the player is trying to do is interrupted by the collision. It’s simple really.

  7. SSafran

    Sep 30, 2012 at 1:30 am

    Assuming center contact some players close the face much earlier after impact (like VJ Singh and Luke Donald) while others hold the club parallel to the target line longer (like Jim Furyk) and Hunter Mayhan).

    The guys who release right after impact must have more precise timing to be successful compared to guys who hold it square to the target line longer. I’ll take Johnny Miller all day long over Dennis Clark when it comes to understanding the golf swing.

    Sell the Trackmans. They’re confusing you. I’d pay 10X as much to have Johnny Miller look at my swing and give me advice than to have anybody else put me on a Trackman and tell me what I’m doing.

  8. JaxBeachNole

    Sep 29, 2012 at 9:42 am

    great stuff. I always feel like I am too hard on Miller, but that comment offends me as a golfer. Thanks DC.

  9. Pebo

    Sep 28, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    NO. Get on a trackman and learn the science.

    • dennis clark

      Sep 29, 2012 at 1:09 pm

      I own TWO Trackmans and teach on them every day.

  10. DCGolf

    Sep 28, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    The release point/type will not affect the twisting of the club on off center impact. Millers analysis claims the twisting of the club IMMEDIATELY after impact is caused by the player

  11. Jacob

    Sep 28, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Seriously? Do you not see the impact different release styles have on whether or not the face closes post impact? If the arms are driven straight and the wrists roll over, that will look a lot different immediately post impact than someone using more of a CP release.

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What you can learn from Steve Elkington

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When you think of great golf swings from the past and present time, Steve Elkington’s golf swing instantly comes to mind. His playing career has included a PGA championship, two Players Championships and more than 50 weeks inside the top-10 world golf rankings. This article will examine not only key moves you can take from Elk’s swing but learning to take your swing to the golf course.

As opposed to looking at a swing frame by frame at key positions, viewing a swing at normal speed can be just as beneficial. This can give students a look at the sequence of the swing as one dynamic motion. Research also suggests learning a motion as one movement as opposed to part-training (stopping the swing at certain points) will enhancing learning.

When viewed at full speed, the simplicity of Elk’s swing is made clear. There is minimal motion as he gets more out of less. This swing pattern can correlate to a conversation he once had with five-time British Open winner Peter Thomson.

When asking Thomson keys to his golf swing and it’s longevity, Thomson explained to Elk, “You have to have great hands and arms.” Thomson further elaborated on the arms and body relationship. “The older you get, you can’t move your body as well, but you can learn to swing your arms well.”

So what’s the best way to get the feel of this motion? Try practicing hitting drivers off your knees. This drill forces your upper body to coil in the proper direction and maintain your spine angle. If you have excess movement, tilt, or sway while doing this drill you will likely miss the ball. For more detail on this drill, read my Driver off the knees article.

Another key move you can take from Elk is in the set-up position. Note the structure of the trail arm. The arm is bent and tucked below his lead arm as well as his trail shoulder below the lead shoulder – he has angle in his trail wrist, a fixed impact position.

This position makes impact easier to find. From this position, Elk can use his right arm as a pushing motion though the ball.

A golf swing can look pretty, but it is of no use if you can’t perform when it matters, on the golf course. When Elk is playing his best, he never loses feel or awareness to the shaft or the clubface throughout the swing. This is critical to performing on the golf course. Using this awareness and a simple thought on the golf course will promote hitting shots on the course, rather than playing swing.

To enhance shaft and face awareness, next time you are on the range place an alignment stick 10 yards ahead of you down the target line. Practice shaping shots around the stick with different flights. Focus on the feel created by your hands through impact.

Twitter: @kkelley_golf

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Dennis Clark: Hitting from the turf

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I have seen as much as 4-5 MPH increase in clubhead speed when my students hit form a tee compared to hitting off the turf. Why?  Fear of FAT shots.

First question: Are you better hitting off a tee than on the turf?

Next question: When you play in a scramble and you have the option of dropping in the fairway or slightly in the first cut, do you choose the rough-especially when hitting over water or sand?

The answer to all these the same: Because the vast majority of golfers do not have a bottom of the swing arc safely in front of the golf ball consistently.

Consider a PGA Tour event, Korn Ferry, Champions Tour, LPGA Tour, whatever…You might see missed fairways, missed greens, hooks, blocks, etc. but we rarely, if ever, see a FAT shot. They simply do not hit the ground before the golf ball. Of course, there are exceptions, into the grain on short pitches, for example, but they are just that-rare exceptions. On the other hand, go to any golf course and watch average golfers for a while. Fat shots are not uncommon. In fact, they, or the fear of them, dominate most golf games.

The number one mistake I have seen on the lesson tee for over 35 years is unquestionably a player’s inability to control the bottom of the golf swing. I have seen everything from hitting 4 inches behind the ball to never reaching the bottom at all It has been my experience that that hitting fat shots is the number one flaw in most golf swings.

Let’s start with this fact: elite level players consistently reach a swing bottom (low point) some 3-4 inches in front of the golf ball-time after time after time. This happens for a variety of reasons, but the one I’d like to look at today is the position of the golf club at impact with the golf ball.

The club is leaning forward, toward the target, the hands are ahead of the club head, never straight up over it, never behind it-always, always leaning forward is the only way to consistently bottom out in front of the golf ball.   

A player cannot hit a ball consistently from the turf until he/she learns this and how to accomplish it. For every golfer I teach who gets into this position, I might teach 50 who do not. In fact, if players did not learn how to “save” a shot by bailing out on the downswing (chicken wing, pull up, raise the handle, or come over the top, (yes over the top is a fat shot avoidance technique) they would hit the ground behind the golf ball almost every time!  Hitting better shots from the fairways, particularly from tight lies, can be learned, but I’m going to be honest: The change required will NOT be easy. And to make matters worse, you can never play significantly better until you overcome the fear of hitting it fat.. Until you learn a pattern where the bottom of the swing is consistently in front of the ball, the turf game will always be an iffy proposition for you.

This starts with a perception. When first confronted with hitting a golf ball, it seems only natural that an “up” swing is the way to get the ball in the air-help it, if you will. The act of a descending blow is not, in any way, natural to the new player. In fact, it is totally counterintuitive. So the first instincts are to throw the club head at the ball and swing up to get the ball in the air; in other words, it makes perfect sense. And once that “method” is ingrained, it is very difficult to change. But change if you must, if your goal is to be a better ball striker.

The position to strive for is one where the left wrist (for a right-hander) is flat, the right is slightly dorsiflexed, and the handle of the golf club is ahead of the grip end. Do your level best to pay attention to the look and feel of what you’re doing as opposed to the flight of the golf ball. FEEL that trail wrist bent slightly back, the lead wrist flat and the hands ahead. It will seem strange at first, but it’s the very small first step in learning to hit down on your tight lies. If some degree of that is not ultimately accomplished, you will likely always be executing “fit in” moves to make up for it. It is worth the time and effort to create this habit.

My suggestion is to get on a Trackman if possible to see where you’re low point actually is, or perhaps you may just want to start paying close attention to your divots-particularly the deepest part of them. I’m sure you will get into a pattern of bottoming out consistently in front of the ball when you begin to learn to get the hands ahead and the club head behind. And best of all, when this becomes your swing, you will lose the fear of hitting the turf first and be free to go down after the ball as aggressively as you like.

Ok, so how is this accomplished? While many players are looking for a magic bullet or a training aid which might help one miraculously get into a good impact position, I dare say there is not one. It is a trial and error proposition, a learn-from-the-mistakes kind of thing achieved only through repetition with a thorough understanding of what needs to be done. The hardest thing to do is IGNORE the outcome when learning a new motor skill, but you must do it. A couple of things you might try:

  • Start with 30-50 yard pitch shots, paying close attention to the hands leading at impact. Again ignore the outcome, look only at the divot.
  • Hit a TON of fairway bunker shots. Draw a line in the sand 3-4″ in front of the ball and try to hit it.
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What you can learn from the rearview camera angle

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We often analyze the golf swing from the face-on view or down-the-line camera angle. However, we can also learn how the body moves in the swing from the rearview or backside view.

When seeing the swing from the rearview, we can easily see how the glutes work. The trail glute actually moves back and around in the backswing. This means the glute moves towards the target or towards the lead heel. Note the trail glute start point and endpoint at the top of the backswing.

To some, this may seem like it would cause a reverse weight shift. However, this glute movement can enable the upper body to get loaded behind the ball. This is where understanding the difference between pressure, and weight is critical (see: “Pressure and Weight”).

This also enhances the shape of the body in the backswing. From the rear angle, I prefer to have players with a tuck to their body in their trail side, a sign of no left-side bend.

This puts the body and trail arm into a “throwing position”, a dynamic backswing position. Note how the trailing arm has folded with the elbow pointing down. This is a sign the trailing arm moved in an efficient sequence to the top of the backswing.

Next time you throw your swing on video, take a look at the rearview camera angle. From this new angle, you may find a swing fault or matchup needed in your golf swing to produce your desired ball flight.

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