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Getting custom fit for clubs is one of the most important things golfers can do to maximize their performance on the course… but there’s a right way, and a wrong way to get fit. In the video above, I explain the 3 things golfers need to understand before they go for a club fitting.

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Mark Crossfield has been coaching golf for more than 20 years, and has enjoyed shaping the digital golf world with fresh, original and educated videos. Basically, I am that guy from YouTube. You can connect with Mark on Periscope (4golfonline) and Snapchat (AskGolfGuru), as well through the social media accounts linked below.

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  1. Matt

    Jun 29, 2016 at 4:55 pm

    Agree with Mark, a fitting is as much of a lesson as it is trying to find the right equipment to suit your swing/game. I love teaching the game of golf to people and when custom fitting I will work with the player to address the needs of the swing and the equipment! It is crucial this is assessed and addressed when custom fitting otherwise all else is void. Strike is also imperative and must be looked at in conjunction with the performance of the shots to find the right balance.

  2. jimjim

    Jun 28, 2016 at 4:31 pm

    This is completely biased from a swing-coachers perspective.

    Of course, mark’s emphases are consistently around the swing. most clearly when he says, “the clubs aren’t gonna do that much of a change” (6:09 mark). While that is partially true, modifications can be made to the club that can promote certain ball flights, spin rates, etc.

    I’m not arguing in favor of the club-fitter, but that there needs to be more balance between fitter/teachers out there.

    • larrybud

      Jul 22, 2016 at 12:27 pm

      I’ve seen proper driver fittings give a guy an extra 25 yards!

  3. Rancho Bob

    Jun 28, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    The thing I find interesting is that the fitters I’ve been to generally use range balls for the fitting.

    When I was fit recently by Cool Clubs in Irvine, they used range balls, many of which were fairly beaten up. Lots of different shafts and heads to pick from, but I have to wonder if my new driver is truly optimized for my swing given the balls that I was hitting.

  4. Rarebit

    Jun 28, 2016 at 3:19 am

    You’ve just sent the entire retail section of golf club equipment sellers into a real hiding Mark! Oh boy, are you in trouble now! Most, and I mean most, do exactly as you were saying, they are there to sell clubs, not give lessons. Besides, those retail outlets do not have qualified players nor teachers, they are all mostly SALESMEN and WOMEN in the traditional sense. So what do we do about that, Mark?

    • Jim

      Jun 28, 2016 at 7:50 am

      That would depend on what they have on hand as far as fitting equipment. Golf Galaxy near me has a fitting cart for Titleist, TM, Mizuno, and Callaway. Another local shop has those same brands plus Ping and Wilson.

      For me I steer away from a sponsored fitter unless I want that specific brand. You can’t go to a titleist fitter and expect to get a quality fitting for anything other than titleist. Brand loyalty is a killing point.

      The other part, which Cain brought up is fitters who try and talk you into a set of clubs. I’ve always maintained its your money that is being spent, not theirs. If there is a specific club you want, you are paying them to fit that club for you, you are not paying them to sell you a different club because of what they think is better.

      • Rarebit

        Jun 28, 2016 at 3:08 pm

        Did you even WATCH the video? Mark said a fitting is also a lesson. Would you like to take a lesson from one of these so-called fitters who is, in fact, just a retail salesperson who has no qualification, who is there to sell clubs and equipment because retail shops do have to meet the bottom line?

        • Jim

          Jun 29, 2016 at 6:39 am

          Yeah I did watch the video…What does that have to do with my comment? I was replying to you on the whole retail section. Some places, even retail have pro fitters. Golf Galaxy near me does. I would trust him over Dick’s Sporting goods that is right down the road and is the parent company. Why? Because as I mentioned he has more fitting carts for more brands, which to me is a big deal. Again I don’t trust any place that only fits “one brand”.

          The lesson parts depends on who is fitting you. If it is the salesman, than it is a total rip off. You’re wasting your time. But if you go to Miura and ask for a fitting they will first start off with asking “What suits your eye” not “What is your handicap”. The notion of getting fitted for clubs that someone else thinks is “best” for your game, is a sales tactic and a gimmick.

          So how are our replies any different at all? I’m merely agreeing with you, hence why I replied.

          • B

            Jun 30, 2016 at 3:00 am

            Yeah you completely misunderstand what Mark was saying. We didn’t need your opinion on different retailers, some having pro fitters and other not. You started your whole argument about this by saying it’s about what the retail shop carries as far as what kind of fit cart, you did not start your point by agreeing with Mark as he says, that a fitting is lesson and if it is not, then it’s a useless fitting and just a equipment sale.

            • Jim

              Jun 30, 2016 at 7:52 am

              I’m not quite sure where I misunderstood what Mark was saying. I am just expanding on parts of it.

              A quality fitting will include a lesson, and I also mentioned that I look for how much fitting equipment they have as well. I don’t care how good the lesson is, if all they have is Titleist (for example) to me it is still a waste of time. I’m there to get fitted not just for one brand. I guess you missed that part. I guess next time I just won’t use examples.

              Quality fitters are hard to find. They also have more than just one or two brands of fitting carts. That was my point on top of what Mark was saying. Another way to determine the quality is what they have available to fit you to. How do you not get that?

              • jc

                Jun 30, 2016 at 4:18 pm

                Your understanding of English is very poor

                • DK

                  Jun 30, 2016 at 7:50 pm

                  Nobody in this thread understands the video, including rarebit. The video had nothing to do with retail shops to begin with. Jim was trying to elaborate more on why retail shops are not good. So really no one has a clue.

                  Marks video is about quality fitters and what you should be getting out of one. No retail shop has quality fitters. However; mark points out that even some quality fitters will still mislead folks.

                  Nobody from rarebit down understood the point of the video, and nobody even understands what those who reply mean. It’s easy to see how Jim was also bashing retail. However; Jim doesn’t even get the video.

                  Sad really. Maybe comment specifically on one of the three points and how that relates to retail…

    • DK

      Jun 30, 2016 at 7:55 pm

      The video is about custom fittings. Since when does retail give custom fittings? You want a custom fitting you have to go see a custom fitter. Retail almost never custom fits. The closest thing to custom fitting at the retail level is a pro fitter. Taking static measurements and adjusting clubs is not custom fitting. Custom fitting fits every club to you the individual. Tom Wishon is a custom fitter….Not retail.
      Do you even understand the video? Did you even watch it?

      • 2x

        Jun 30, 2016 at 11:11 pm

        Yeah you’re clueless as well DK, but only 2nd to Jim
        Signed, wum

  5. Xav

    Jun 27, 2016 at 12:16 pm

    After much trial and error I finally found a set of irons that I am truly happy with: Mizuno MP53’s. The shaft they were fitted with were Dynamic Gold SL S300’s were just not the right fit and a full inch over standard in length.
    Wanting to dial in my equipment (length,lie,shaft stiffness) I went to my local PGA superstore that offered a “free fitting.” The lady who initially performed the fitting had very poor knowledge and I felt that I was there less to do a shaft fitting and more for her to try and sell me a brand new set of clubs. I started getting aggravated because she was doing everything she could to have me test new equipment on the monitor as opposed to getting my shaft dialed in correctly.
    Finally I got another one of the salesman involved who was much more knowledgeable and got me fitted for TT’s XP115’s.
    So ya for you guys out there looking to just get your current equipment dialed in… make sure you step into the right shop for your fitting. I would suggest you go somewhere where you can use the Mizuno Shaft optimizer for good measure. I hope this helps!

  6. Dave

    Jun 27, 2016 at 11:42 am

    Could not agree more with Cain been there and done it . Got talked into buying a club that some flat belly 20 something would use. Bought it took it golfing hit it three times then give it to my buddy to sell . Yup fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me, never again. Lesso learned.

  7. Cain

    Jun 27, 2016 at 10:46 am

    NUMBER ONE, get fit in Clubs You Want to Play, If you see that a set of irons fit your eye and the first thought when picking one up is “I love this club” those are the ones you will play best no doubt…you may need a little more or less in shaft flex or a little up or down on lie angle but get fit for something you love….too many guys and gals let the fitter talk them into a brand or style of club that just does not fit players eye..almost without fail the customer will never play their best because it is not the club they really wanted and it is easy to be the club you come to hate..even if it fits…..

  8. 4pillars

    Jun 27, 2016 at 9:23 am

    Interesting and makes sense apart from the last bit.

    In my experience there are very few coaches who use Lunch monitors and have a good range of clubs and shafts with a good fitting cart.

    Seems more an Utopian dream.

    • john

      Jun 28, 2016 at 1:47 am

      ive had the opposite experience, everyone has fitting carts and most clubs have a launch monitor (usually an overpriced trackman)

      • Rarebit

        Jun 28, 2016 at 3:20 am

        You must state where you are to qualify and quantify anything you say, John, otherwise you’re just a WUM

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Vincenzi’s LIV Golf Singapore betting preview: Course specialist ready to thrive once again

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After another strong showing in Australia, LIV Golf will head to Sentosa Golf Club in Singapore looking to build off of what was undoubtedly their best event to date.

Sentosa Golf Club sits on the southern tip of Singapore and is one of the most beautiful courses in the world. The course is more than just incredible scenically; it was also rated 55th in Golf Digest’s top-100 courses in 2022-2023 and has been consistently regarded as one of the best courses in Asia. Prior to being part of the LIV rotation, the course hosted the Singapore Open every year since 2005.

Sentosa Golf Club is a par 71 measuring 7,406 yards. The course will require precise ball striking and some length off the tee. It’s possible to go low due to the pristine conditions, but there are also plenty of hazards and difficult spots on the course that can bring double bogey into play in a hurry. The Bermudagrass greens are perfectly manicured, and the course has spent millions on the sub-air system to keep the greens rolling fast. I spoke to Asian Tour player, Travis Smyth, who described the greens as “the best [he’s] ever played.”

Davis Love III, who competed in a Singapore Open in 2019, also gushed over the condition of the golf course.

“I love the greens. They are fabulous,” the 21-time PGA Tour winner said.

Love III also spoke about other aspects of the golf course.

“The greens are great; the fairways are perfect. It is a wonderful course, and it’s tricky off the tee.”

“It’s a long golf course, and you get some long iron shots. It takes somebody hitting it great to hit every green even though they are big.”

As Love III said, the course can be difficult off the tee due to the length of the course and the trouble looming around every corner. It will take a terrific ball striking week to win at Sentosa Golf Club.

In his pre-tournament press conference last season, Phil Mickelson echoed many of the same sentiments.

“To play Sentosa effectively, you’re going to have a lot of shots from 160 to 210, a lot of full 6-, 7-, 8-iron shots, and you need to hit those really well and you need to drive the ball well.”

Golfers who excel from tee to green and can dial in their longer irons will have a massive advantage this week.

Stat Leaders at LIV Golf Adelaide:

Fairways Hit

1.) Louis Oosthuizen

2.) Anirban Lahiri

3.) Jon Rahm

4.) Brendan Steele

5.) Cameron Tringale

Greens in Regulation

1.) Brooks Koepka

2.) Brendan Steele

3.) Dean Burmester

4.) Cameron Tringale

5.) Anirban Lahiri

Birdies Made

1.) Brendan Steele

2.) Dean Burmester

3.) Thomas Pieters

4.) Patrick Reed

5.) Carlos Ortiz

LIV Golf Individual Standings:

1.) Joaquin Niemann

2.) Jon Rahm

3.) Dean Burmester

4.) Louis Oosthuizen

5.) Abraham Ancer

LIV Golf Team Standings:

1.) Crushers

2.) Legion XIII

3.) Torque

4.) Stinger GC

5.) Ripper GC

LIV Golf Singapore Picks

Sergio Garcia +3000 (DraftKings)

Sergio Garcia is no stranger to Sentosa Golf Club. The Spaniard won the Singapore Open in 2018 by five strokes and lost in a playoff at LIV Singapore last year to scorching hot Talor Gooch. Looking at the course setup, it’s no surprise that a player like Sergio has played incredible golf here. He’s long off the tee and is one of the better long iron players in the world when he’s in form. Garcia is also statistically a much better putter on Bermudagrass than he is on other putting surfaces. He’s putt extremely well on Sentosa’s incredibly pure green complexes.

This season, Garcia has two runner-up finishes, both of them being playoff losses. Both El Camaleon and Doral are courses he’s had success at in his career. The Spaniard is a player who plays well at his tracks, and Sentosa is one of them. I believe Sergio will get himself in the mix this week. Hopefully the third time is a charm in Singapore.

Paul Casey +3300 (FanDuel)

Paul Casey is in the midst of one of his best seasons in the five years or so. The results recently have been up and down, but he’s shown that when he’s on a golf course that suits his game, he’s amongst the contenders.

This season, Casey has finishes of T5 (LIV Las Vegas), T2 (LIV Hong Kong), and a 6th at the Singapore Classic on the DP World Tour. At his best, the Englishman is one of the best long iron players in the world, which makes him a strong fit for Sentosa. Despite being in poor form last season, he was able to fire a Sunday 63, which shows he can low here at the course.

It’s been three years since Casey has won a tournament (Omega Dubai Desert Classic in 2021), but he’s been one of the top players on LIV this season and I think he can get it done at some point this season.

Mito Pereira +5000 (Bet365)

Since Mito Pereira’s unfortunate demise at the 2022 PGA Championship, he’s been extremely inconsistent. However, over the past few months, the Chilean has played well on the International Series as well as his most recent LIV start. Mito finished 8th at LIV Adelaide, which was his best LIV finish this season.

Last year, Pereira finished 5th at LIV Singapore, shooting fantastic rounds of 67-66-66. It makes sense why Mito would like Sentosa, as preeminent ball strikers tend to rise to the challenge of the golf course. He’s a great long iron player who is long and straight off the tee.

Mito has some experience playing in Asia and is one of the most talented players on LIV who’s yet to get in the winner’s circle. I have questions about whether or not he can come through once in contention, but if he gets there, I’m happy to roll the dice.

Andy Ogletree +15000 (DraftKings)

Andy Ogletree is a player I expected to have a strong 2024 but struggled early in his first full season on LIV. After failing to crack the top-25 in any LIV event this year, the former U.S. Amateur champion finally figured things out, finished in a tie for 3rd at LIV Adelaide.

Ogletree should be incredible comfortable playing in Singapore. He won the International Series Qatar last year and finished T3 at the International Series Singapore. The 26-year-old was arguably the best player on the Asian Tour in 2023 and has been fantastic in the continent over the past 18 months.

If Ogletree has indeed found form, he looks to be an amazing value at triple-digit odds.

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Ryan: Lessons from the worst golf instructor in America

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In Tampa, there is a golf course that boasts carts that do not work, a water range, and a group of players none of which have any chance to break 80. The course is overseen by a staff of crusty men who have succeeded at nothing in life but ending up at the worst-run course in America. However, this place is no failure. With several other local courses going out of business — and boasting outstanding greens — the place is booked full.

While I came for the great greens, I stayed to watch our resident instructor; a poor-tempered, method teacher who caters to the hopeless. At first, it was simply hilarious. However, after months of listening and watching, something clicked. I realized I had a front-row seat to the worst golf instructor in America.

Here are some of my key takeaways.

Method Teacher

It is widely accepted that there are three types of golf instructors: system teachers, non-system teachers, and method teachers. Method teachers prescribe the same antidote for each student based on a preamble which teachers can learn in a couple day certification.

Method teaching allows anyone to be certified. This process caters to the lowest caliber instructor, creating the illusion of competency. This empowers these underqualified instructors with the moniker of “certified” to prey on the innocent and uninformed.

The Cult of Stack and Jilt

The Stack and Tilt website proudly boasts, “A golfer swings his hands inward in the backswing as opposed to straight back to 1) create power, similar to a field goal kicker moving his leg in an arc and 2) to promote a swing that is in-to-out, which produces a draw (and eliminates a slice).”

Now, let me tell you something, there is this law of the universe which says “energy can either be created or destroyed,” so either these guys are defying physics or they have no idea what they are taking about. Further, the idea that the first move of the backswing determines impact is conjecture with a splash of utter fantasy.

These are the pontifications of a method — a set of prescriptions applied to everyone with the hope of some success through the placebo effect. It is one thing for a naive student to believe, for a golf instructor to drink and then dispel this Kool-Aid is malpractice.

Fooled by Randomness

In flipping a coin, or even a March Madness bet, there is a 50-50 chance of success. In golf, especially for new players, results are asymmetric. Simply put: Anything can happen. The problem is that when bad instructors work with high handicappers, each and every shot gets its own diagnosis and prescription. Soon the student is overwhelmed.

Now here’s the sinister thing: The overwhelming information is by design. In this case, the coach is not trying to make you better, they are trying to make you reliant on them for information. A quasi Stockholm syndrome of codependency.

Practice

One of the most important scientists of the 20th century was Ivan Pavlov. As you might recall, he found that animals, including humans, could be conditioned into biological responses. In golf, the idea of practice has made millions of hackers salivate that they are one lesson or practice session from “the secret.”

Sunk Cost

The idea for the worst golf instructor is to create control and dependency so that clients ignore the sunk cost of not getting better. Instead, they are held hostage by the idea that they are one lesson or tip away from unlocking their potential.

Cliches

Cliches have the effect of terminating thoughts. However, they are the weapon of choice for this instructor. Add some hyperbole and students actually get no information. As a result, these players couldn’t play golf. When they did, they had no real scheme. With no idea what they are doing, they would descend into a spiral of no idea what to do, bad results, lower confidence, and running back to the lesson tee from more cliches.

The fact is that poor instruction is about conditioning players to become reliant members of your cult. To take away autonomy. To use practice as a form of control. To sell more golf lessons not by making people better but through the guise that without the teacher, the student can never reach their full potential. All under the umbrella of being “certified” (in a 2-day course!) and a melee of cliches.

This of course is not just happening at my muni but is a systemic problem around the country and around the world, the consequences of which are giving people a great reason to stop playing golf. But hey, at least it’s selling a lot of golf balls…

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Vincenzi’s 2024 Zurich Classic of New Orleans betting preview

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The PGA TOUR heads to New Orleans to play the 2023 Zurich Classic of New Orleans. In a welcome change from the usual stroke play, the Zurich Classic is a team event. On Thursday and Saturday, the teams play best ball, and on Friday and Sunday the teams play alternate shot.

TPC Louisiana is a par 72 that measures 7,425 yards. The course features some short par 4s and plenty of water and bunkers, which makes for a lot of exciting risk/reward scenarios for competitors. Pete Dye designed the course in 2004 specifically for the Zurich Classic, although the event didn’t make its debut until 2007 because of Hurricane Katrina.

Coming off of the Masters and a signature event in consecutive weeks, the field this week is a step down, and understandably so. Many of the world’s top players will be using this time to rest after a busy stretch.

However, there are some interesting teams this season with some stars making surprise appearances in the team event. Some notable teams include Patrick Cantlay and Xander Schauffele, Rory McIlroy and Shane Lowry, Collin Morikawa and Kurt Kitayama, Will Zalatoris and Sahith Theegala as well as a few Canadian teams, Nick Taylor and Adam Hadwin and Taylor Pendrith and Corey Conners.

Past Winners at TPC Louisiana

  • 2023: Riley/Hardy (-30)
  • 2022: Cantlay/Schauffele (-29)
  • 2021: Leishman/Smith (-20)
  • 2019: Palmer/Rahm (-26)
  • 2018: Horschel/Piercy (-22)
  • 2017: Blixt/Smith (-27)

2024 Zurich Classic of New Orleans Picks

Tom Hoge/Maverick McNealy +2500 (DraftKings)

Tom Hoge is coming off of a solid T18 finish at the RBC Heritage and finished T13 at last year’s Zurich Classic alongside Harris English.

This season, Hoge is having one of his best years on Tour in terms of Strokes Gained: Approach. In his last 24 rounds, the only player to top him on the category is Scottie Scheffler. Hoge has been solid on Pete Dye designs, ranking 28th in the field over his past 36 rounds.

McNealy is also having a solid season. He’s finished T6 at the Waste Management Phoenix Open and T9 at the PLAYERS Championship. He recently started working with world renowned swing coach, Butch Harmon, and its seemingly paid dividends in 2024.

Keith Mitchell/Joel Dahmen +4000 (DraftKings)

Keith Mitchell is having a fantastic season, finishing in the top-20 of five of his past seven starts on Tour. Most recently, Mitchell finished T14 at the Valero Texas Open and gained a whopping 6.0 strokes off the tee. He finished 6th at last year’s Zurich Classic.

Joel Dahmen is having a resurgent year and has been dialed in with his irons. He also has a T11 finish at the PLAYERS Championship at TPC Sawgrass which is another Pete Dye track. With Mitchell’s length and Dahmen’s ability to put it close with his short irons, the Mitchell/Dahmen combination will be dangerous this week.

Taylor Moore/Matt NeSmith +6500 (DraftKings)

Taylor Moore has quickly developed into one of the more consistent players on Tour. He’s finished in the top-20 in three of his past four starts, including a very impressive showing at The Masters, finishing T20. He’s also finished T4 at this event in consecutive seasons alongside Matt NeSmith.

NeSmith isn’t having a great 2024, but has seemed to elevate his game in this format. He finished T26 at Pete Dye’s TPC Sawgrass, which gives the 30-year-old something to build off of. NeSmith is also a great putter on Bermudagrass, which could help elevate Moore’s ball striking prowess.

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