Opinion & Analysis
I finally learned to embrace golf GPS technology, and so should you
Different people play golf very differently; some like to listen to music, while others keep the rulebook in their back pocket. When I started golfing, I embraced the sport as best as I could down to its roots. It was just me against the course, rejecting as much technology as I could. I thought technology was against the spirit of the game, so I would pace the course looking for red, white, and blue markers to guess my distance to the pin, bunkers and other hazards.
But is rejecting technology really upholding the nature of the sport? I’ve recently changed my stance, and here’s why.
115 or 95 to the center of the green?
So you just walked off a yardage, but already forgot whether you needed to add or subtract 10 yards from the sprinkler head. Wait, what did that sprinkler head say again? Was it to the front or the middle? Without a golf GPS, a laser rangefinder, a caddie, or yardage book, surely you’ve found yourself in this situation at least once, or maybe you’ve gotten into a habit of being lazy with picking yardages. And you’re not alone. Since most golfers are usually satisfied with the markers on the fairway, a guessing game ensues when they are planning our next shot.
“Should I hit a pitching wedge or a soft nine?”
Many golfers have at least moderate knowledge of the distances they hit each club, maybe even knowing how far a perfect shot will go and how short a poor shot will go. Unfortunately, most of us take a less-than-serious approach to picking an exact yardage of their target, not realizing that we’re leaving strokes on the course.
Enter the caddie
I was quick to say “I don’t need a digital caddy,” but I was wrong. Since the dawn of golf, using a caddie has been an encouraged practice. And if he/she does their job correctly, golfers get the yardages they need before each shot. Why then, just because golfers opt to take a cart or carry a bag, should we penalize ourselves by not getting access to that information? The game of golf is a measure of skill and mental fortitude, not depth perception.
A portable caddie
Using any type of GPS device, be it an app on your phone or a dedicated unit like SkyCaddie, will help you know the real distances to your targets, just like a caddie. A lot of golfers prefer laser rangefinders, but I like my golf GPS. It tells me the distance to the center of the green, as well as to the front and back. It shows me distance to hazards, as well as carry distances, which assists me in picking landing spots for doglegs and more. They’re super simple and straightforward, and I don’t even have to tip them.
Is there anything worse than hitting a perfect shot, just to see it fly over the green or land short in a bunker? Pulling the right club for the right distance is paramount to a clean scorecard, but as I was quick to learn, these new technologies offer more than just distance.
The bonuses
Now that we have reliable, safe distances right at our fingertips, what other benefits do these new tech caddies offer? Often we hear about someone’s short game or long game. These are areas of the game golfers can improve that carry over from course to course. Your score could go up or down, but your iron game is your iron game. And your game is what your playing partners are betting on (or against).
Related: The tragedy that your range session doesn’t count towards your score
So when I say that the new GPS app on your phone or a rangefinder can help your score, what I am really saying is that your improved score will be a byproduct of better understanding your game. Knowing distances to my targets has been key to proper course management and improving my score. Here’s a quick example: 75 percent of your strokes are made within 130 yards to the hole (this includes putting). So if we take a golfer who shoots 95, 71 of those shots are within 130 yards. If we can just reduce our strokes within this range by 5 percent, which is not substantial, we’re going to save almost 5 strokes. So now that I always have my golf GPS handy, I know my exact distance to the best landing zone, so I can actually make a proper decision and therefore save shots.
The improvement to your course management seems obvious: I know my distances therefore I can pull the right club. Now you not only know your distances, but also can make important decisions about the kind of shot you want to play because of your newfound wisdom. A common situation before might be, “I think I have 135 yards to the pin and I need to carry the shot over water.” At this distance, I would pull my pitching wedge, but there’s a problem I don’t know how far it is to carry the water, and I don’t want my ball to land pin high and release through the green. Referencing my golf GPS, I can see I only need to cover 110 yards to clear the water, so I can hit my 52-degree wedge with confidence knowing that given a solid shot, I’ll carry the water, but won’t fly the green.
The pros do it and you should, too
A golf GPS will quickly become your best friend, and you should practice using it often. You’ll lower your scores by adding the knowledge a caddy would give you.. without the added cost. Your ability to manage the course will also improve, and you’ll find yourself hitting different clubs and different shots thanks to better information. Chances are, you’ll stay out of trouble more often. So go out and get one so you can improve your game and shoot lower scores.
The only problem? You’ll have fewer excuses to tell your buddies when you hit the wrong shot.
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19th Hole
Vincenzi’s LIV Golf Singapore betting preview: Course specialist ready to thrive once again
After another strong showing in Australia, LIV Golf will head to Sentosa Golf Club in Singapore looking to build off of what was undoubtedly their best event to date.
Sentosa Golf Club sits on the southern tip of Singapore and is one of the most beautiful courses in the world. The course is more than just incredible scenically; it was also rated 55th in Golf Digest’s top-100 courses in 2022-2023 and has been consistently regarded as one of the best courses in Asia. Prior to being part of the LIV rotation, the course hosted the Singapore Open every year since 2005.
Sentosa Golf Club is a par 71 measuring 7,406 yards. The course will require precise ball striking and some length off the tee. It’s possible to go low due to the pristine conditions, but there are also plenty of hazards and difficult spots on the course that can bring double bogey into play in a hurry. The Bermudagrass greens are perfectly manicured, and the course has spent millions on the sub-air system to keep the greens rolling fast. I spoke to Asian Tour player, Travis Smyth, who described the greens as “the best [he’s] ever played.”
Davis Love III, who competed in a Singapore Open in 2019, also gushed over the condition of the golf course.
“I love the greens. They are fabulous,” the 21-time PGA Tour winner said.
Love III also spoke about other aspects of the golf course.
“The greens are great; the fairways are perfect. It is a wonderful course, and it’s tricky off the tee.”
“It’s a long golf course, and you get some long iron shots. It takes somebody hitting it great to hit every green even though they are big.”
As Love III said, the course can be difficult off the tee due to the length of the course and the trouble looming around every corner. It will take a terrific ball striking week to win at Sentosa Golf Club.
In his pre-tournament press conference last season, Phil Mickelson echoed many of the same sentiments.
“To play Sentosa effectively, you’re going to have a lot of shots from 160 to 210, a lot of full 6-, 7-, 8-iron shots, and you need to hit those really well and you need to drive the ball well.”
Golfers who excel from tee to green and can dial in their longer irons will have a massive advantage this week.
Stat Leaders at LIV Golf Adelaide:
Fairways Hit
1.) Louis Oosthuizen
2.) Anirban Lahiri
3.) Jon Rahm
4.) Brendan Steele
5.) Cameron Tringale
Greens in Regulation
1.) Brooks Koepka
2.) Brendan Steele
3.) Dean Burmester
4.) Cameron Tringale
5.) Anirban Lahiri
Birdies Made
1.) Brendan Steele
2.) Dean Burmester
3.) Thomas Pieters
4.) Patrick Reed
5.) Carlos Ortiz
LIV Golf Individual Standings:
1.) Joaquin Niemann
2.) Jon Rahm
3.) Dean Burmester
4.) Louis Oosthuizen
5.) Abraham Ancer
LIV Golf Team Standings:
1.) Crushers
2.) Legion XIII
3.) Torque
4.) Stinger GC
5.) Ripper GC
LIV Golf Singapore Picks
Sergio Garcia +3000 (DraftKings)
Sergio Garcia is no stranger to Sentosa Golf Club. The Spaniard won the Singapore Open in 2018 by five strokes and lost in a playoff at LIV Singapore last year to scorching hot Talor Gooch. Looking at the course setup, it’s no surprise that a player like Sergio has played incredible golf here. He’s long off the tee and is one of the better long iron players in the world when he’s in form. Garcia is also statistically a much better putter on Bermudagrass than he is on other putting surfaces. He’s putt extremely well on Sentosa’s incredibly pure green complexes.
This season, Garcia has two runner-up finishes, both of them being playoff losses. Both El Camaleon and Doral are courses he’s had success at in his career. The Spaniard is a player who plays well at his tracks, and Sentosa is one of them. I believe Sergio will get himself in the mix this week. Hopefully the third time is a charm in Singapore.
Paul Casey +3300 (FanDuel)
Paul Casey is in the midst of one of his best seasons in the five years or so. The results recently have been up and down, but he’s shown that when he’s on a golf course that suits his game, he’s amongst the contenders.
This season, Casey has finishes of T5 (LIV Las Vegas), T2 (LIV Hong Kong), and a 6th at the Singapore Classic on the DP World Tour. At his best, the Englishman is one of the best long iron players in the world, which makes him a strong fit for Sentosa. Despite being in poor form last season, he was able to fire a Sunday 63, which shows he can low here at the course.
It’s been three years since Casey has won a tournament (Omega Dubai Desert Classic in 2021), but he’s been one of the top players on LIV this season and I think he can get it done at some point this season.
Mito Pereira +5000 (Bet365)
Since Mito Pereira’s unfortunate demise at the 2022 PGA Championship, he’s been extremely inconsistent. However, over the past few months, the Chilean has played well on the International Series as well as his most recent LIV start. Mito finished 8th at LIV Adelaide, which was his best LIV finish this season.
Last year, Pereira finished 5th at LIV Singapore, shooting fantastic rounds of 67-66-66. It makes sense why Mito would like Sentosa, as preeminent ball strikers tend to rise to the challenge of the golf course. He’s a great long iron player who is long and straight off the tee.
Mito has some experience playing in Asia and is one of the most talented players on LIV who’s yet to get in the winner’s circle. I have questions about whether or not he can come through once in contention, but if he gets there, I’m happy to roll the dice.
Andy Ogletree +15000 (DraftKings)
Andy Ogletree is a player I expected to have a strong 2024 but struggled early in his first full season on LIV. After failing to crack the top-25 in any LIV event this year, the former U.S. Amateur champion finally figured things out, finished in a tie for 3rd at LIV Adelaide.
Ogletree should be incredible comfortable playing in Singapore. He won the International Series Qatar last year and finished T3 at the International Series Singapore. The 26-year-old was arguably the best player on the Asian Tour in 2023 and has been fantastic in the continent over the past 18 months.
If Ogletree has indeed found form, he looks to be an amazing value at triple-digit odds.
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In Tampa, there is a golf course that boasts carts that do not work, a water range, and a group of players none of which have any chance to break 80. The course is overseen by a staff of crusty men who have succeeded at nothing in life but ending up at the worst-run course in America. However, this place is no failure. With several other local courses going out of business — and boasting outstanding greens — the place is booked full.
While I came for the great greens, I stayed to watch our resident instructor; a poor-tempered, method teacher who caters to the hopeless. At first, it was simply hilarious. However, after months of listening and watching, something clicked. I realized I had a front-row seat to the worst golf instructor in America.
Here are some of my key takeaways.
Method Teacher
It is widely accepted that there are three types of golf instructors: system teachers, non-system teachers, and method teachers. Method teachers prescribe the same antidote for each student based on a preamble which teachers can learn in a couple day certification.
Method teaching allows anyone to be certified. This process caters to the lowest caliber instructor, creating the illusion of competency. This empowers these underqualified instructors with the moniker of “certified” to prey on the innocent and uninformed.
The Cult of Stack and Jilt
The Stack and Tilt website proudly boasts, “A golfer swings his hands inward in the backswing as opposed to straight back to 1) create power, similar to a field goal kicker moving his leg in an arc and 2) to promote a swing that is in-to-out, which produces a draw (and eliminates a slice).”
Now, let me tell you something, there is this law of the universe which says “energy can either be created or destroyed,” so either these guys are defying physics or they have no idea what they are taking about. Further, the idea that the first move of the backswing determines impact is conjecture with a splash of utter fantasy.
These are the pontifications of a method — a set of prescriptions applied to everyone with the hope of some success through the placebo effect. It is one thing for a naive student to believe, for a golf instructor to drink and then dispel this Kool-Aid is malpractice.
Fooled by Randomness
In flipping a coin, or even a March Madness bet, there is a 50-50 chance of success. In golf, especially for new players, results are asymmetric. Simply put: Anything can happen. The problem is that when bad instructors work with high handicappers, each and every shot gets its own diagnosis and prescription. Soon the student is overwhelmed.
Now here’s the sinister thing: The overwhelming information is by design. In this case, the coach is not trying to make you better, they are trying to make you reliant on them for information. A quasi Stockholm syndrome of codependency.
Practice
One of the most important scientists of the 20th century was Ivan Pavlov. As you might recall, he found that animals, including humans, could be conditioned into biological responses. In golf, the idea of practice has made millions of hackers salivate that they are one lesson or practice session from “the secret.”
Sunk Cost
The idea for the worst golf instructor is to create control and dependency so that clients ignore the sunk cost of not getting better. Instead, they are held hostage by the idea that they are one lesson or tip away from unlocking their potential.
Cliches
Cliches have the effect of terminating thoughts. However, they are the weapon of choice for this instructor. Add some hyperbole and students actually get no information. As a result, these players couldn’t play golf. When they did, they had no real scheme. With no idea what they are doing, they would descend into a spiral of no idea what to do, bad results, lower confidence, and running back to the lesson tee from more cliches.
The fact is that poor instruction is about conditioning players to become reliant members of your cult. To take away autonomy. To use practice as a form of control. To sell more golf lessons not by making people better but through the guise that without the teacher, the student can never reach their full potential. All under the umbrella of being “certified” (in a 2-day course!) and a melee of cliches.
This of course is not just happening at my muni but is a systemic problem around the country and around the world, the consequences of which are giving people a great reason to stop playing golf. But hey, at least it’s selling a lot of golf balls…
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The PGA TOUR heads to New Orleans to play the 2023 Zurich Classic of New Orleans. In a welcome change from the usual stroke play, the Zurich Classic is a team event. On Thursday and Saturday, the teams play best ball, and on Friday and Sunday the teams play alternate shot.
TPC Louisiana is a par 72 that measures 7,425 yards. The course features some short par 4s and plenty of water and bunkers, which makes for a lot of exciting risk/reward scenarios for competitors. Pete Dye designed the course in 2004 specifically for the Zurich Classic, although the event didn’t make its debut until 2007 because of Hurricane Katrina.
Coming off of the Masters and a signature event in consecutive weeks, the field this week is a step down, and understandably so. Many of the world’s top players will be using this time to rest after a busy stretch.
However, there are some interesting teams this season with some stars making surprise appearances in the team event. Some notable teams include Patrick Cantlay and Xander Schauffele, Rory McIlroy and Shane Lowry, Collin Morikawa and Kurt Kitayama, Will Zalatoris and Sahith Theegala as well as a few Canadian teams, Nick Taylor and Adam Hadwin and Taylor Pendrith and Corey Conners.
Past Winners at TPC Louisiana
- 2023: Riley/Hardy (-30)
- 2022: Cantlay/Schauffele (-29)
- 2021: Leishman/Smith (-20)
- 2019: Palmer/Rahm (-26)
- 2018: Horschel/Piercy (-22)
- 2017: Blixt/Smith (-27)
2024 Zurich Classic of New Orleans Picks
Tom Hoge/Maverick McNealy +2500 (DraftKings)
Tom Hoge is coming off of a solid T18 finish at the RBC Heritage and finished T13 at last year’s Zurich Classic alongside Harris English.
This season, Hoge is having one of his best years on Tour in terms of Strokes Gained: Approach. In his last 24 rounds, the only player to top him on the category is Scottie Scheffler. Hoge has been solid on Pete Dye designs, ranking 28th in the field over his past 36 rounds.
McNealy is also having a solid season. He’s finished T6 at the Waste Management Phoenix Open and T9 at the PLAYERS Championship. He recently started working with world renowned swing coach, Butch Harmon, and its seemingly paid dividends in 2024.
Keith Mitchell/Joel Dahmen +4000 (DraftKings)
Keith Mitchell is having a fantastic season, finishing in the top-20 of five of his past seven starts on Tour. Most recently, Mitchell finished T14 at the Valero Texas Open and gained a whopping 6.0 strokes off the tee. He finished 6th at last year’s Zurich Classic.
Joel Dahmen is having a resurgent year and has been dialed in with his irons. He also has a T11 finish at the PLAYERS Championship at TPC Sawgrass which is another Pete Dye track. With Mitchell’s length and Dahmen’s ability to put it close with his short irons, the Mitchell/Dahmen combination will be dangerous this week.
Taylor Moore/Matt NeSmith +6500 (DraftKings)
Taylor Moore has quickly developed into one of the more consistent players on Tour. He’s finished in the top-20 in three of his past four starts, including a very impressive showing at The Masters, finishing T20. He’s also finished T4 at this event in consecutive seasons alongside Matt NeSmith.
NeSmith isn’t having a great 2024, but has seemed to elevate his game in this format. He finished T26 at Pete Dye’s TPC Sawgrass, which gives the 30-year-old something to build off of. NeSmith is also a great putter on Bermudagrass, which could help elevate Moore’s ball striking prowess.
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lazio
Feb 6, 2019 at 11:11 pm
Bushnell Excel,is also be batter for.Pairs via Bluetooth to the Bushnell Golf App to allow the golfer to book tee times, pay, confirm and set tee time notifications all from their smart phone. There is also the option for 3D course flyovers to give the golfer a birds-eye view of the hole. The Excel also has improved battery life
Read more at https://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/best-golf-deals/best-golf-gps-devices-2018-94809#kMBO4XSTM2XTpMlV.99
Gary
Apr 9, 2018 at 2:48 pm
Indeed, I think it’s very beneficial in the long run to get used to GPS on the course. Until recently I used to go manual, but now I’m looking to get a good GPS watch for myself. I’ve heard really good things about the Garmin Approach S20 – people are praising it left and right. I’m very close to deciding on the S20 at this point, although a few other models do interest me. This guide here (https://golfstead.com/best-golf-gps-watches) lists some interesting models. Does GolfWRX have any buying guides for golf GPS units?
Kyle @ TGG
Dec 17, 2016 at 5:44 pm
If you’re on the fence about embracing emerging technologies, you definitely should. Mike is dead on, these devices can help your game out a lot. They’re basically $150 caddies that you play with for 10 years who have walked every course you play 1000 times.
geoff
Jun 1, 2016 at 5:47 am
SimplyGolf GPS for Android, it’s free and works well and has a lot of Australian courses!!
Nick
May 6, 2016 at 4:27 pm
funnily enough, I went through almost exactly the same argument with myself not so long ago about gps/rangefinders and it being against the spirit of the game and came to exactly the same conclusion!
I was actually testing a lot of different devices for reviews and the key for me was just how much more enjoyable golf becomes when you know the distance. It really is incredibly frustrating to pure one and see it come up short because your ‘guesstimate’ was really 15 yards off (and mine usually is!)
Nick
Mike Puglielli
May 8, 2016 at 12:33 am
Nothing worse than that my friend it is a common story when you are guessing. I was doing that ALL the time.
Mat
May 4, 2016 at 9:05 pm
Here’s another endorsement for golfshot if you don’t have anything else. I use GameGolf Live now, and I’m happy enough with it. What I will not do without is a laser. GPS is fantastic for approximations, and you can certainly learn a lot – especially on a course never played before. But once you have an idea of the course, the laser is the thing that really inspires confidence.
Mike Puglielli
May 5, 2016 at 6:41 am
My current “laser” is not very accurate and can’t target pins. What you end up getting is approximations, so for me right now, the GPS is more consistent and accurate. I am looking to get a new laser that actually can hit a pin.
TR1PTIK
May 5, 2016 at 9:06 am
Bushnell Tour V3 had a small price drop recently. It’s what I used to have and it’s a really good unit. Just found that I was constantly afraid of losing it or something because of the extra investment to get it.
Mike Puglielli
May 5, 2016 at 2:14 pm
Cool, I’ll take a peak at it if the price is right. Thanks Tr1p!
Jarrod
May 6, 2016 at 6:42 am
If you are not in a rush, or are the patient budget type like myself, just search Amazon, Ebay, and Craigslist, almost daily. Last summer, I would look for golf related items all the time, and was able to pick up a Bushnell V2 with Slope, for $50 on Amazon. For those that are patient, and cheap, like myself, deals can be had, just by waiting and looking around often.
Josh
May 5, 2016 at 9:15 am
I also use GameGolf but I have started having issues with it.
It doesn’t appear very accurate, especially when you compare it side by side on a course. I have gamegolf on my iphone and my buddy uses gamegolf on his android. The GPS is almost always off. Mine will be short, and his will be long. We will tee off and he will be 10 yards short of me and his GPS says he hit the ball 20-30 yards further than my GPS tells me. Also recently they don’t have the most accurate scorecard, played a course where the score card was way off. Not to mention the yardage for holes is off to on some holes.
However; it is very handy and useful. I use it to figure out how far to front and back of the green and use that as my “which club to play” guide. For example on a Par 3 the front was 165 and back was 195, so I used a 4 iron knowing I can’t hit it past 195 and knowing that even the weakest hit is 165. Needless to say I put the ball in the center of the green. When the GPS is accurate it is really, really useful, and I wouldn’t even consider using a laser.
Mike Puglielli
May 8, 2016 at 12:36 am
Thanks for sharing your use cases—everyone keeps talking about game golf but I haven’t touched it before. I’ll have to check it out!
John Krug
May 4, 2016 at 8:44 pm
I recently purchased the Bushnell Tour V4 Slope Edition with Jolt. Incidentally, this is now legal as slope can be turned off if you are playing in a tournament. I have played with people who have watches and found that they are quite inaccurate compared to the V4. As well, if you hit a shot that lands on another fairway the watch does not recognize where you are. The V4 is also a third smaller than the previous version. The jolt is an added bonus for those with shaky hands.
Mike Puglielli
May 5, 2016 at 6:39 am
Good point about the other fairway…I end up there sometimes 🙂 I heard the Bushnell V4 is amazing. Thanks for sharing how you use this new tech. The fact that they can calculate slope nowadays is amazing.
Egor
May 4, 2016 at 6:39 pm
I carry a laser and use Arccos.
The laser range finder is used most often to get distance to the pin on deep greens or from non-fairway locations. Arccos which has a GPS overlay of the course is used when I want distance to carry or to a layup spot before a water hazard.
Mike Puglielli
May 5, 2016 at 6:37 am
Very cool, I’ll check out the Arccos. Its good to have both, you can then really dial in.
TR1PTIK
May 5, 2016 at 9:02 am
I use Game Golf, but I hate having to keep the phone nearby and sometimes the GPS won’t refresh right away or I have to go to a different screen and come back. I like being able to see distances to hazards, but I don’t really need that for the courses I play regularly. I like having the watch because I simply have to glance at my wrist. What’s your experience like using GPS on Arccos? Do you have any of the same issues with the app?
TCJ
May 4, 2016 at 5:49 pm
If you’re worried about a PW running through the green, perhaps more attention should be paid to properly striking the ball properly, and less attention paid to your doohickey.
TCJ
May 4, 2016 at 5:50 pm
Or in my case, english!
Miguel
May 4, 2016 at 4:50 pm
Golf Shot, cannot play without Golf Shot. I also use the free Game Golf app to track what I do on the course. 😀
Mike Puglielli
May 4, 2016 at 5:15 pm
Two great apps Miguel and they go hand in hand. Do you have the game golf club “sensors”?
Scooter McGavin
May 4, 2016 at 2:54 pm
“Many golfers have at least moderate knowledge of the distances they hit each club”…. I think this is the main problem, in addition to golfers being lazy. If you polled a group of golfers and asked how far they hit their 5,7,9,SW, and then actually put them on a Trackman to check, I’d be surprised if even half of them were within 5 (maybe even 10) yards.
Mike Puglielli
May 4, 2016 at 5:18 pm
I would say, generally, average golfers are within 10 yards…even 15 is acceptable to get something out of a gps or laser device. These devices can also help golfers discover their real distances of they don’t know them already. Now…whether or not you find an honest golfer during a poll is a different story—the ego is tough!
Double Mocha Man
May 4, 2016 at 8:17 pm
I think, as a golfer uses a rangefinder and consistently finds he/she is short by 5-10 yards with a particular club they will make the adjustment. Ego takes you only so far. Or less far.
Jon
May 4, 2016 at 1:06 pm
What are some GPS apps I should look for if I have an Android phone?
Mike Puglielli
May 4, 2016 at 1:18 pm
Hey Jon,
My favorite is Golfshot: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.shotzoom.golfshot2 and they also have other great features for the app.You can try Golf GPS & Scorecard: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hole19golf.hole19.beta
GPS golf watches are also pretty affordable, check em out!
TR1PTIK
May 4, 2016 at 2:15 pm
Recently purchased a Garmin Approach S2 from TGW for $120. I used it for the first time yesterday and loved it. I’ve owned and used just about everything. Lasers are great for getting exact distances, but I do find that they are more time consuming than my watch and while it is nice to know where the pin is that isn’t necessarily what amateurs should be aiming for on every hole.
Mike Puglielli
May 4, 2016 at 5:22 pm
Exactly! Most players shouldn’t be going straight for the pin!
Blake
May 4, 2016 at 12:44 pm
Was this paid for by skycaddie or something? Interesting to hear use GPS when civilian GPS is +/- 5 yards. And also no pro is using GPS during a practice round. Its not accurate enough. They use lasers which are quicker and more accurate.
Mike Puglielli
May 4, 2016 at 1:20 pm
Hey Blake,
This was not a sponsored piece. I talk about other devices, not just GPS, you can use on the course. Lasers are great and ideal for finding pin position, but isn’t a perfect solution when you have blind spots. Its good to have both and use either when the correct situation arises.
Leon
May 4, 2016 at 10:58 am
Talk this to a dude who slices, fats and thins 90% of his shots, and lost 2 dozens of ball every round while find half dozen from the pounds to keep up the inventory. I am sure he will pop up a few nice words for the GPS
Philip
May 4, 2016 at 10:51 am
I think your preaching to the wrong crowd – I expect most on GolfWRX rely on some management system already – whether GPS, laser, course book, notes, Google maps, etc. Personally I dislike GPS apps on phones – interrupts my routine and often difficult to see the screens in the sun. For the majority of golfers a GPS app is only going to make the game slower for all – they have other more important things to figure out – like how to check their ego (you don’t HAVE to use driver on the tee) and make a decent swing for starters.
Mike Puglielli
May 4, 2016 at 1:23 pm
Haha Good points Phil! Have you checked out the GPS watches? They’re pretty great and don’t require you to use your phone. I’m with you though, I prefer to not use my phone while on the course.
Don’t you think having some kind of tech for high handicaps would improve pace of play? If they can reduce strokes because they have proper distances, shouldn’t that speed things up? 10 seconds to look at a GPS watch or something and maybe they save a stroke.
Philip
May 4, 2016 at 2:11 pm
Yes, I’m keeping my eye on the watches, almost got the new Microsoft one – waiting for v3. Thing is, I know my yardages and can hit them within 5-10 yards, unless I mishit. When I was a higher handicapper I was only accurate with my yardages to 20-30 yards. There was just too much variance due to my over swinging and setup issues to get any real use out of the GPS apps. I tried a few, but knowing you can hit a club within 30 yards of your target doesn’t help much with choosing a club. I just measured to the front of the green and went for it.
Mike Puglielli
May 4, 2016 at 5:13 pm
Yeah, you’re right. I guess it depends on how badly the player is hitting their clubs…at the end of the day, you still got to have a decent swing. I know players with a similar miss pattern, about 20yards, they can still benefit from the additional course knowledge that these devices provide: take a green that’s 30×30, and all of a sudden if this type of player were to aim in the middle, they could end up somewhere on the shed of the green, front or back. Still helpful I think! How’s the MSFT watch? Haven’t tried it.
Philip
May 4, 2016 at 7:30 pm
I still use the middle of the green quite often. If I can get on the green in regulation I have a shot at par, with the occasional birdie opportunity. There were a few things about the watch that I think shouldn’t be missing, and since we already know that next years watch is being prepared, I’ll just wait for those few things to get added eventually. In the meantime I may go for Game Golf, or more likely, just start going onto the course after work again with my laser and hit shots to the fairway/green.
Double Mocha Man
May 4, 2016 at 10:22 am
If you use a GPS device you still have to rely on your depth perception. How far forward is that pin from center??? Laser rangefinder is the way to go… until it comes to an uphill blind shot where you can’t see the pin.
Double Mocha Man
May 4, 2016 at 10:23 am
So to cover for both instances someone needs to come up with the Laser/GPS rangefinder, where you can switch between the two technologies in the same unit.
jim
May 4, 2016 at 10:46 am
http://www.callawaygolf.com/accessories/gps-rangefinders/gps-c70110-hybrid-laser-gps-rangefinder.html?gclid=CPWy6bzUwMwCFdgQgQodhpMPhA
Double Mocha Man
May 4, 2016 at 11:23 am
Dang! A guy just can’t keep up with the technology these days. Thanks Jim.
Mike Puglielli
May 4, 2016 at 12:35 pm
That’s sweet, never seen that before!
Scott
May 4, 2016 at 3:40 pm
I use a watch and range finder. The gps is nice for courses that you have not played before. If I have played the course before, I find myself using the laser most of the time. The hybrid range finder and gps is a really nice product but it does not have all the bells and whistles that the top range finders have or the top gps units have. I just just basically created my own by attaching my watch to the laser case.
Mike Puglielli
May 4, 2016 at 5:21 pm
Haha that’s a cool idea, with the DIY setup. I like the GPS most times, like you, even if I know the course. A big issue of mine is not knowing the size of a green and how much room I have to play woth (my depth perception isn’t good there).
BD57
May 4, 2016 at 11:43 pm
Vast majority of us would benefit from playing to the middle of the green 75-80% of the time – at least, with any club longer than a wedge / 9 iron.
Also, most GPS will give you yardage to front, middle & back, so you can get a reasonable approximation of where a “front” or “back” pin will be by dividing depth by “3” and then putting the pin in the center of the appropriate third.
P.S. Have a laser & use Golfshot both. so I’m not boosting one over the other. Just saying that, for those who can’t afford / choose not to bite the bullet for a laser, there are things they can do w/ GPS alone that are useful.
Mike Puglielli
May 5, 2016 at 6:36 am
All totally true.
ooffa
May 4, 2016 at 8:45 am
Welcome to the the party. Your 10 years late.
Mike Puglielli
May 4, 2016 at 8:59 am
Do we have jackets?