Opinion & Analysis
USGA launches “While We’re Young” campaign to combat slow play
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The USGA has recently launched a campaign aimed to help grow the game of golf by improving pace of play on the golf course. The campaign is called “While We’re Young” after the famous line from Rodney Dangerfield’s character in Caddyshack. While the title may be light-hearted, the message is clear: pick up the pace.
The campaign will air a series of public service announcements during this week’s U.S. Open that feature Tiger Woods, Arnold Palmer, Clint Eastwood, Paula Creamer, Annika Sorenstam and Butch Harmon (watch Tiger’s in the video at the top of the page).
“Pace of play is a big issue,” Woods said in a statement. “Rounds of golf take too long and no one enjoys it. ‘While we’re young’ is part of the golfing vocabulary, and Caddyshack is iconic in our sport. This campaign is lighthearted, but it also shows that we need to pick up the pace of play.”
According to the USGA, 91 percent of serious golfers are bothered by slow paces of play and say it detracts from their golf experience.
There is no reason that a foursome that walks 18 holes should not be able to get around the course in less than four hours and ten minutes. I work at a club as a Club Professional, and we have a very strict pace of play in which each hole must be completed after a certain amount of time after the group’s starting time. Our members routinely get around the course in under four hours, which greatly increases their enjoyment of their day at the course.
The next time you play, please help everyone on the course enjoy their day by following a few of these easy guidelines for speeding up pace:
- Play READY golf; be ready to play when it is your turn.
- Read your putt while others are putting.
- Walk ahead as far as is safe. DO NOT move as a group from shot to shot.
- Play the set of tees that are appropriate for you, no matter what tees everyone else is playing.
- Limit your time at the turn to five minutes.
- Do all scorekeeping on the teeing ground of the next hole, NOT on the green of the current hole.
- If you are the first or second person to finish the hole, put your clubs away and be ready to go to the next hole, let the third person to finish put the flagstick back in.
- Set your clubs (or park your cart) between the flagstick and the next tee box to minimize time between holes.
- Golf is a social game, but limit socializing to times when it is appropriate such as the putting green and teeing ground (when the group is closer together), but do so in a manner so as to not slow down the progress of the group.
- Be an athlete, walk fast.
- When on carts, be willing to take many clubs and walk to your ball if your riding partner is not near you, do not wait for the partner to bring the cart to you.
- Remember that USGA handicapping allows you to pick up your ball if you are having a bad hole. You should never putt for more than an eight.
- Help the others in your group, watch everyone’s shots and track them so they can quickly find them.
- Remember that your place on the golf course is directly behind the group in front of you, NOT in front of the group behind you!
Have other ideas? Please feel free to add to the list in the Comments section at the bottom of the page.
We are constantly losing golfers simply because pace of play takes away from their enjoyment of the game. Please visit http://www.usga.org/MicroSite.aspx?id=21474856307 for more information about the initiative and take the pledge today to become a USGA pace of play ambassador. The golf world will thank you!
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The PGA TOUR heads to New Orleans to play the 2023 Zurich Classic of New Orleans. In a welcome change from the usual stroke play, the Zurich Classic is a team event. On Thursday and Saturday, the teams play best ball, and on Friday and Sunday the teams play alternate shot.
TPC Louisiana is a par 72 that measures 7,425 yards. The course features some short par 4s and plenty of water and bunkers, which makes for a lot of exciting risk/reward scenarios for competitors. Pete Dye designed the course in 2004 specifically for the Zurich Classic, although the event didn’t make its debut until 2007 because of Hurricane Katrina.
Coming off of the Masters and a signature event in consecutive weeks, the field this week is a step down, and understandably so. Many of the world’s top players will be using this time to rest after a busy stretch.
However, there are some interesting teams this season with some stars making surprise appearances in the team event. Some notable teams include Patrick Cantlay and Xander Schauffele, Rory McIlroy and Shane Lowry, Collin Morikawa and Kurt Kitayama, Will Zalatoris and Sahith Theegala as well as a few Canadian teams, Nick Taylor and Adam Hadwin and Taylor Pendrith and Corey Conners.
Past Winners at TPC Louisiana
- 2023: Riley/Hardy (-30)
- 2022: Cantlay/Schauffele (-29)
- 2021: Leishman/Smith (-20)
- 2019: Palmer/Rahm (-26)
- 2018: Horschel/Piercy (-22)
- 2017: Blixt/Smith (-27)
2024 Zurich Classic of New Orleans Picks
Tom Hoge/Maverick McNealy +2500 (DraftKings)
Tom Hoge is coming off of a solid T18 finish at the RBC Heritage and finished T13 at last year’s Zurich Classic alongside Harris English.
This season, Hoge is having one of his best years on Tour in terms of Strokes Gained: Approach. In his last 24 rounds, the only player to top him on the category is Scottie Scheffler. Hoge has been solid on Pete Dye designs, ranking 28th in the field over his past 36 rounds.
McNealy is also having a solid season. He’s finished T6 at the Waste Management Phoenix Open and T9 at the PLAYERS Championship. He recently started working with world renowned swing coach, Butch Harmon, and its seemingly paid dividends in 2024.
Keith Mitchell/Joel Dahmen +4000 (DraftKings)
Keith Mitchell is having a fantastic season, finishing in the top-20 of five of his past seven starts on Tour. Most recently, Mitchell finished T14 at the Valero Texas Open and gained a whopping 6.0 strokes off the tee. He finished 6th at last year’s Zurich Classic.
Joel Dahmen is having a resurgent year and has been dialed in with his irons. He also has a T11 finish at the PLAYERS Championship at TPC Sawgrass which is another Pete Dye track. With Mitchell’s length and Dahmen’s ability to put it close with his short irons, the Mitchell/Dahmen combination will be dangerous this week.
Taylor Moore/Matt NeSmith +6500 (DraftKings)
Taylor Moore has quickly developed into one of the more consistent players on Tour. He’s finished in the top-20 in three of his past four starts, including a very impressive showing at The Masters, finishing T20. He’s also finished T4 at this event in consecutive seasons alongside Matt NeSmith.
NeSmith isn’t having a great 2024, but has seemed to elevate his game in this format. He finished T26 at Pete Dye’s TPC Sawgrass, which gives the 30-year-old something to build off of. NeSmith is also a great putter on Bermudagrass, which could help elevate Moore’s ball striking prowess.
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After having four of the top twelve players on the leaderboard at The Masters, LIV Golf is set for their fifth event of the season: LIV Adelaide.
For both LIV fans and golf fans in Australia, LIV Adelaide is one of the most anticipated events of the year. With 35,000 people expected to attend each day of the tournament, the Grange Golf Club will be crawling with fans who are passionate about the sport of golf. The 12th hole, better known as “the watering hole”, is sure to have the rowdiest of the fans cheering after a long day of drinking some Leishman Lager.
The Grange Golf Club is a par-72 that measures 6,946 yards. The course features minimal resistance, as golfers went extremely low last season. In 2023, Talor Gooch shot consecutive rounds of 62 on Thursday and Friday, giving himself a gigantic cushion heading into championship Sunday. Things got tight for a while, but in the end, the Oklahoma State product was able to hold off The Crushers’ Anirban Lahiri for a three-shot victory.
The Four Aces won the team competition with the Range Goats finishing second.
*All Images Courtesy of LIV Golf*
Past Winners at LIV Adelaide
- 2023: Talor Gooch (-19)
Stat Leaders Through LIV Miami
Green in Regulation
- Richard Bland
- Jon Rahm
- Paul Casey
Fairways Hit
- Abraham Ancer
- Graeme McDowell
- Henrik Stenson
Driving Distance
- Bryson DeChambeau
- Joaquin Niemann
- Dean Burmester
Putting
- Cameron Smith
- Louis Oosthuizen
- Matt Jones
2024 LIV Adelaide Picks
Cameron Smith +1400 (DraftKings)
When I pulled up the odds for LIV Adelaide, I was more than a little surprised to see multiple golfers listed ahead of Cameron Smith on the betting board. A few starts ago, Cam finished runner-up at LIV Hong Kong, which is a golf course that absolutely suits his eye. Augusta National in another course that Smith could roll out of bed and finish in the top-ten at, and he did so two weeks ago at The Masters, finishing T6.
At Augusta, he gained strokes on the field on approach, off the tee (slightly), and of course, around the green and putting. Smith able to get in the mix at a major championship despite coming into the week feeling under the weather tells me that his game is once again rounding into form.
The Grange Golf Club is another course that undoubtedly suits the Australian. Smith is obviously incredibly comfortable playing in front of the Aussie faithful and has won three Australian PGA Championship’s. The course is very short and will allow Smith to play conservative off the tee, mitigating his most glaring weakness. With birdies available all over the golf course, there’s a chance the event turns into a putting contest, and there’s no one on the planet I’d rather have in one of those than Cam Smith.
Louis Oosthuizen +2200 (DraftKings)
Louis Oosthuizen has simply been one of the best players on LIV in the 2024 seas0n. The South African has finished in the top-10 on the LIV leaderboard in three of his five starts, with his best coming in Jeddah, where he finished T2. Perhaps more impressively, Oosthuizen finished T7 at LIV Miami, which took place at Doral’s “Blue Monster”, an absolutely massive golf course. Given that Louis is on the shorter side in terms of distance off the tee, his ability to play well in Miami shows how dialed he is with the irons this season.
In addition to the LIV finishes, Oosthuizen won back-to-back starts on the DP World Tour in December at the Alfred Dunhill Championship and the Mauritus Open. He also finished runner-up at the end of February in the International Series Oman. The 41-year-old has been one of the most consistent performers of 2024, regardless of tour.
For the season, Louis ranks 4th on LIV in birdies made, T9 in fairways hit and first in putting. He ranks 32nd in driving distance, but that won’t be an issue at this short course. Last season, he finished T11 at the event, but was in decent position going into the final round but fell back after shooting 70 while the rest of the field went low. This season, Oosthuizen comes into the event in peak form, and the course should be a perfect fit for his smooth swing and hot putter this week.
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Of all the clubs in our bags, wedges are almost always the simplest in construction and, therefore, the easiest to analyze what might make one work differently from another if you know what to look for.
Wedges are a lot less mysterious than drivers, of course, as the major brands are working with a lot of “pixie dust” inside these modern marvels. That’s carrying over more to irons now, with so many new models featuring internal multi-material technologies, and almost all of them having a “badge” or insert in the back to allow more complex graphics while hiding the actual distribution of mass.
But when it comes to wedges, most on the market today are still single pieces of molded steel, either cast or forged into that shape. So, if you look closely at where the mass is distributed, it’s pretty clear how that wedge is going to perform.
To start, because of their wider soles, the majority of the mass of almost any wedge is along the bottom third of the clubhead. So, the best wedge shots are always those hit between the 2nd and 5th grooves so that more mass is directly behind that impact. Elite tour professionals practice incessantly to learn to do that consistently, wearing out a spot about the size of a penny right there. If impact moves higher than that, the face is dramatically thinner, so smash factor is compromised significantly, which reduces the overall distance the ball will fly.
Every one of us, tour players included, knows that maddening shot that we feel a bit high on the face and it doesn’t go anywhere, it’s not your fault.
If your wedges show a wear pattern the size of a silver dollar, and centered above the 3rd or 4th groove, you are not getting anywhere near the same performance from shot to shot. Robot testing proves impact even two to three grooves higher in the face can cause distance loss of up to 35 to 55 feet with modern ‘tour design’ wedges.
In addition, as impact moves above the center of mass, the golf club principle of gear effect causes the ball to fly higher with less spin. Think of modern drivers for a minute. The “holy grail” of driving is high launch and low spin, and the driver engineers are pulling out all stops to get the mass as low in the clubhead as possible to optimize this combination.
Where is all the mass in your wedges? Low. So, disregarding the higher lofts, wedges “want” to launch the ball high with low spin – exactly the opposite of what good wedge play requires penetrating ball flight with high spin.
While almost all major brand wedges have begun putting a tiny bit more thickness in the top portion of the clubhead, conventional and modern ‘tour design’ wedges perform pretty much like they always have. Elite players learn to hit those crisp, spinny penetrating wedge shots by spending lots of practice time learning to consistently make contact low in the face.
So, what about grooves and face texture?
Grooves on any club can only do so much, and no one has any material advantage here. The USGA tightly defines what we manufacturers can do with grooves and face texture, and modern manufacturing techniques allow all of us to push those limits ever closer. And we all do. End of story.
Then there’s the topic of bounce and grinds, the most complex and confusing part of the wedge formula. Many top brands offer a complex array of sole configurations, all of them admittedly specialized to a particular kind of lie or turf conditions, and/or a particular divot pattern.
But if you don’t play the same turf all the time, and make the same size divot on every swing, how would you ever figure this out?
The only way is to take any wedge you are considering and play it a few rounds, hitting all the shots you face and observing the results. There’s simply no other way.
So, hopefully this will inspire a lively conversation in our comments section, and I’ll chime in to answer any questions you might have.
And next week, I’ll dive into the rest of the wedge formula. Yes, shafts, grips and specifications are essential, too.
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chuck
Jul 14, 2013 at 3:53 pm
Play the regular white tees not the tips.
i play with a guy who out drives me by 50 yards off every tee, but my handicap is 10 strokes lower than his. should i play off shorter tees?
No Way
Xander Walsh
Jul 8, 2013 at 7:29 pm
Clint’s PSA should involve a .44 magnum and the infamous phase “Do you feel lucky? Well do ya punk?”
naflack
Jun 30, 2013 at 4:20 pm
the best example is the tour players and until the rules apply to them there will be marginal changes if any…
i understand the campaign and think it is well intentioned.
that said, if you want to grow the game then it needs to be more friendly to the fringe players. this campaign isnt aimed at making the experiance better for the fringe players, its aimed at making the experiance better for the better player. until courses stop putting groups out on top of each other this is nothing more than a well intentioned band aid. i am a good player who enjoys the game but i play with people from time to time who are not good players and the experiance is quite intimidating. many times they are picking up their ball when they have played decent shots simply because there are people waiting on them because the tee times are piled on top of each other. oddly enough these friends of mine dont enjoy the game or the experiance and feel like their money is being taken away from them without the opportunity to do what they have spent their hard earned money to do…hit the ball and enjoy their round.
chastise me if you will, i dont care…my friends will be welcomed when they play with me to play their ball and have fun and when people catch us we let them play through.
again i understand the frustrations of slow play as much as the next guy but lets hold the courses accountable for their role in this problem.
Brad
Jun 21, 2013 at 6:58 pm
Baaaaaa! Goes another sheep….if my slow play throws off your “rythm” maybe YOU should play a different sport. Golf is going to be slow until people realize that speed is not the answer. Chill the F#@~ out is the answer. Take your time. Golf is not about slamming tee times every ten minutes. Golf is supposed be a leisure game, not an olympic event. Stay of your meds and relax…enjoy your 60$ walk through the beautiful scenery that grew and exists for free.
naflack
Jun 30, 2013 at 4:20 pm
+1
MTRyaninTX
Jun 18, 2013 at 10:57 am
Okay… Those greedy corporate monsters that just rake in the cash by owning golf courses, could you point them out to me? How much do you pay to water your lawn? Do you mow your 200 acres every day? What does that cost you? How many golf carts are you replacing a year? Spare me.
This is a great campaign. I think everyone who plays is conscientious of a few things 1. Cost – golf is too expensive, but it’s what the market bears, you want to play less, go play south city goat track and don’t complain about the greens and pace. 2. Overall enjoyment, if you get enjoyment over dragging your round out or taking all of your allotted time while people are staring at you from the tee, fairway, etc. you are in the wrong game. I know that if I’m slowed down and have to wait on someone then have someone wait on me my rhythm is shot and I’m useless.
You’re “stick it to the man” idea of slowing down to punish profit only punishes every other person on the course.
Last point – the fastest way to watch your quality of course go down and price go up is to start screwing with profit.
yo!
Jun 18, 2013 at 3:23 am
a three-some at the us open takes 5+ hours to finish a round, and the usga wants amateurs to play fast
naflack
Jun 30, 2013 at 4:23 pm
+1
Golfergal
Jun 17, 2013 at 12:23 pm
How about banning fivesomes on the weekends? Very few public courses or private clubs in some parts of the country ban the “good ole boy” groups of five who have always played together and are now in their 80’s or who are playing for money and take forever on the greens.
sasojo
Jun 17, 2013 at 9:49 am
Asians are the slowest lol.
yo!
Jun 18, 2013 at 3:24 am
and they can’t drive …
Gary Forcey
Jun 17, 2013 at 9:38 am
Improper use of golf carts is also a problem. On the way to your ball, select more than one club if you’re unsure of what to hit and then start walking or driving toward the hole and/or your cart partner immediately after hitting. This is particularly important when conditions dictate “cart path only” restrictions. Whenever possible, park the cart between the pin and the next tee – never in front of the green so you can move quickly to the next hole and never stop to mark scores. That can wait until the tee.
Hunterdog
Jun 16, 2013 at 6:13 pm
I belong to a semi-private facility foe pace of play on the weekends. Weekday golf is essentially non-existent; hardly anyone on the private or public courses. We have a terrific public course, it hosts a Senior PGA event, and gets a lot of weekend play and is very good condition. The fairways are tree lined and the rough is deep and thick. Alot of time is spent searching for balls a couple of yards off the fairway. A lower rough cut would save 20 minutes a round. Help us out supers!
Marylou
Jun 16, 2013 at 1:39 pm
You must be kidding! This campaign is created under the guise of helping golfers not get frustrated. That’s what the “playing through” courtesy was created for. Am I the only person who sees that it is blatantly obvious that it’s a way to shove as many golfers as possible through the course so golf course owners can make more of a profit? C’mon! Now I’m determined to play EXTRA slow!
SanDiegoSteve
Jun 16, 2013 at 2:35 pm
I couldn’t agree more Marylou! I am going to slow it down. Fair warning, pull that “While we’re young” crap with me and you will regret it!
naflack
Jun 30, 2013 at 4:25 pm
+1…lol
Slimbeezee
Jun 16, 2013 at 4:33 pm
Absolutely agreed Marylou…the usga also launched this crap nationally while there whining cause they “lost” $10 million at the us open. There are already rules in place for slow play…just enforce them. Don’t need an ad campaign for that.
IsItWinterYet
Jun 16, 2013 at 11:05 pm
Pace of play is certainly a polarizing topic. Like the America we currently live in; no one is ever happy with anything and its always someone’s else’s fault. People feel that they are being screwed out of their hard-earned dimes; the golf course, the Marshall, the lack of Marshall, the rough, too fast, too slow, the pros on TV. If you hate golf so much, might I suggest a different way to recreate. If you think golf is overpriced, play courses you can afford. “Green fees at XYZ Club are too expensive.” Incorrect, they are too expensive for you. I can get a steak at Morton’s or a steak at Applebee’s; both are steaks but very different. Any of you know how much it costs to simply operate a golf course..?
Back to pace, playing through implies that once you play through a group that you will then be able to play at a reasonable pace. What if a course is busy, oh wait, you all hate that too; playing through does zero good. It’s amazing how many “golfers” feel that they are knowledgeable of the inner workings of golf course setup and administration. The course I play at has 10-minute intervals, 1 open/unused tee time every 2 hours and player assistants managing pace and ensuring everyone is enjoying themselves. All balls they find are product of the club and recycled to golfers by player assistants on the course, hopefully eliminating the search time. To say courses are jamming players in is a blanket statement at best. Perhaps you should ask your local club professional before forming an opinion of club policy. You seem to be blind that golf IS a business. What business do you know that is interested in losing money? “Every time I go to the Starbucks, the line is sooo long. Damn, they’re just trying to squeeze/hurry us through to make more profit.”
Play the correct tees, keep pace with the group in front of you and try to have some fun and a little perspective, after all its just golf.
naflack
Jun 30, 2013 at 4:37 pm
i think it is interesting that the perspective from the people who work at a course seems to be is that this is a problem they play no role in.
if all you want is rich people that are good at golf and willing to spend money then best of luck to you.
the reality is that the industry doesnt grow and people are always looking for ways to grow the game. looking for more ways to press the buying public will not work.
show respect to the players around and be humble, if youre slow let people play through and be nice about it.
if you hit a terrible shot and cant find the ball within a minute take your medicine.
beyond that…you paid to play and enjoy the round 🙂
Bob
Jun 16, 2013 at 11:45 am
I agree with this campaign because unessesary slow play is a big problem. People do need to be taught more about golf ediquite. When you’re in a bowling league and it’s your turn do you stop to closely examine every board on the lane, or do you go back to the rack and search for a different bowling ball, do you sit there and finish your hamburger and beer or finish your conversation with your friend, do you take fifteen practice swings first before letting the ball fly? No, of course you don’t! So why do it while golfing? The game is not meant to be played like that. I love the game of golf, its history, its stories and its stars but I hate to say it but alot of this slow play comes from the average player trying to emulate the pros. We see them throwing grass in the air to gauge the wind, having lenghty discussions with their caddies about the shot, changing their minds on what club to use, taking several practice swings, backing off a shot if it doesn’t feel right, circling a putt and looking at it from every possible angle, etc. etc. etc. As much as I hate to say it too many pros are setting a poor example with their slow play. Let’s start at the top in eliminating this problem. Let the pros set a better example!
naflack
Jun 30, 2013 at 4:39 pm
well said…
Schmeggy McGee
Jun 15, 2013 at 3:03 pm
This campaign is terrible. Yes, slow players can be a problem, but slow pace is an inevitable part of public golf. If you have something better to do than being on the golf course, go do that instead. Hackers love to blame their poor scores on outside influences and should practice taking ownership of their 100+ scores. If someone tells me “while we’re young”, I’ll tell them where to shove their club.
Stephen McCloud
Jun 15, 2013 at 2:11 am
I think there are several sides here: 1- guys who know they take too long and 2- guys who are playing fast enough but feel rushed and 3- guys who don’t know they are slow. I don’t think Brad is necessarily the problem. He said he is conscientious but doesn’t like to feel rushed. This ad might be intended for people that play with the #3 people. We all know them and they aren’t even somewhat conscientious like Brad. We need to help the #3 guys see what damage they are causing because although I am defending Brad, he needs to realize that there are also a lot of players that are strapped for cash that DO want to play at a reasonable pace. Sometimes because they dont have a ton of freetime and need to get back to work. Not everyone that is short on funds wants to play a five hour round to get the “most” out of their round. They get their monies worth out of a four hour round.
Brad
Jun 15, 2013 at 12:30 am
Yes I do. What your failing to understand is that what I’m saying is not that I will, purposely, slow play down. My point is that the problem with the decline of interest in golf has nothing to with slow play. I would completely understand if someone spending there hard earned money(and a lot of it)savored the moment a few extra minutes. That’s precisely why I play mid week and have no issues with slow play ever. I think wasting advertising money on an ad campaign about an issue that already has it own set of rules. The time alotted for the pace of play is fair and there are penalties already in place for slow play. So why waste time on something that already is, by the rules, fair. Just enforce…done. Still have a decline in golf now what do you do? Get a clue…
Brad
Jun 14, 2013 at 10:11 pm
Thanks for the comments….shows who the sheep and who the leaders are. I would never listen to a bunch of greedy, corporate monsters just cause they “say” slow play is a problem for golf. The number one reason that I have heard from the hundreds of golfers I come in contact with is that price of golf is a problem. The majority of americans can barely afford food. I would imagine those hundreds of thousands of people would love to just be on a golf course playing no matter how long it took to play. Only the up tight’ “I wish I was an elitist” complainers are the ones you find thinking slow play is why golf is in decline. Get a clue…
Nigel
Jun 14, 2013 at 11:00 pm
Sheep and leaders? I take it you feel you are one of the leaders? Find a lot of golf balls being hit at you? Maybe, just maybe, we call it what it really is… you’re inconsiderate of anybody else. If you want a walk in the park, go for a walk in the park. If you want to play a round of golf, keep up the pace and allow others to enjoy their day as well.
Ps. I’m sure golf is the last thing someone who can’t afford to eat is thinking about. I think you need to get a clue. Now troll along somewhere else.
naflack
Jun 30, 2013 at 4:45 pm
i am someone who likes to play quickly but play with people on occasion who arent very good. they do the best they can and we let people play through. there is never a reason to hit into a group, that is the mentality of a bully.
Ray
Jun 14, 2013 at 10:08 pm
This is a great campaign. How hard is it to bring a couple of clubs from the cart instead of going back and forth because you picked the wrong one? If people bothered to care about the people in the foursome behind them my next round would be a lot more fun.
Greg
Jun 14, 2013 at 8:40 pm
“Ready golf” is play when you are ready – ie don’t be pedantic about whose turn it is. This is especially on the tee, where the longest driver may have the honour and waits for the group in front to be 300 yards away, meanwhile his three shorter-hitting partners could have all hit while he was waiting.
It’s a great way to get almost a hole behind before you’ve teed off the first.
Paul
Jun 16, 2013 at 10:03 am
I’ve seen the waiting on the tee for this reason many times!!!!!
Nigel
Jun 14, 2013 at 8:07 pm
One thing to remember is Brad is the problem. He also, in his complete selfishness, causes a whole lot of undue anger and frustration on the course as it backs up behind him.
Crazy Canuck
Jun 14, 2013 at 8:38 pm
I find I play my best golf when there is a good pace. Nothing kills my game more than having to wait to hit on every shot.
ski_co
Jul 3, 2013 at 12:28 pm
The thing to remember – you are at the course to play golf, not sightsee, hit on the beverage cart girl, and have conversations about the weather with your golfing buds. One practice swing, hit the ball, move on.
kevin
Jun 14, 2013 at 7:53 pm
I agree with Roger. Brad is a terrible golfer and should be banned from all courses.
Brad
Jun 14, 2013 at 5:50 pm
One thing to remember is we are paying $50-80 for one round of golf. I take my time on a golf course because the last thing I’m going to do is over pay for a round and then let them hustle me through so they can stuff as many golfers(all of which are over paying) on the golf course. All the while they blame me the “slow player” and completely ignore the real problem, If I’m going to over pay I am going to get my money’s worth. Sorry but I’ll let ya play through.
Rex
Jun 19, 2013 at 9:29 pm
Golfers with that attitude are not welcome at any golf course in the world.
naflack
Jun 30, 2013 at 4:49 pm
if my group is slow we will let you play through and be resectful about it, beyond that we have paid to be here. im with brad…
Geoff
Jun 14, 2013 at 12:32 pm
I often wonder why golf courses don’t provide an incentive to play faster.
For instance, why don’t golf courses charge a regular greens fee and give money back to players who finish in less than 4 hours. For instance, if greens fees are $50 then a golf course should give back $10 to each group completed in less than 4 hours. I would think the pace of play would increase dramatically. If you want to motivate someone to do something, give them a little cash incentive.
One drawback is that players stuck behind a slow group would be penalized for waiting. That said, I guarantee that no matter the outcome, slow play would be talked about a lot more than it is now. And slow players would get a little kick in their ass to play a faster golf. One possible positive: courses that advocate faster play might see an increase in golfers because of the reputation for fast play.
Slow play prevents me from doing anything other than practicing. I don’t have time to wait around on a golf course. Hopefully someone solves this slow play problem.
bleda2002
Jun 14, 2013 at 12:22 pm
One thing that can go a long way to helping pace of play is with the courses themselves. I’ve played on some courses that thought they were preparing for the US Open with no first cut of rough, instead its 5-7 inch thick primary rough right off the edge of the fairway guaranteed to swallow any ball that even rolls in to it. Nothing wastes time and frustrates like combing a 10 yard space for a ball you know is there but cant find because you’re crawling through a jungle.
Rex
Jun 19, 2013 at 9:35 pm
Always putt out is another time saver….don’t mark your ball after EVERY putt. If you CAN putt out by not standing on anyone else’s line of putt do so to speed up the putting time for the entire group.
BTW…line of putt is not the same as line to the hole….too many people straddle the line to the hole thinking they are doing the right thing…only to be planting their big size 10s right on the line of the putt.
sturg
Jun 14, 2013 at 9:32 am
The biggest reason for slow play is that the majority of weekend players (at public courses) simply aren’t good enough to be playing.
Go to the first tee box of any public course on a Saturday morning — you’ll see a litany of dribblers/OB drives
Paul
Jun 16, 2013 at 10:00 am
I saw/heard that Sweden requires a “playing license” before your’re allowed on a golf course to ensure you know the etiquette of golf and keeping up.
john tobler
Jun 25, 2013 at 4:18 pm
in switzerland, you’ve got to have at least a hcp of 36 to play on a 18 hole course. but believe me. the pace of play still isn’t very fast.