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Today from the Forums: “Ping iBlade vs i210 irons – High spinning player’s club testing”
Today from the Forums, we take a look at a high spinning player’s club testing involving Ping’s iBlade and i210 irons. WRXer ‘MofoJones’ is a +3.5 handicap player looking for more forgiveness who tested with a 7-iron and ProV1x and had this to say on his club testing:
“I tested using 7 irons, lofts shown on each club. I used ProV1x for the testing and was limited in shaft combinations that were consistent among each product. I used DG 120 X-100 for every head except the Mizuno (DG 130g X-100, I know it’s a very different shaft).
I started to swing slower after the T100, so ball speeds drops are a little misleading. I had a lot more swings than just the screenshots I have provided; I tried other shafts with each model as well, just kept the #’s with the shaft that I could compare and contrast the easiest with.
The fitter said that he had noticed a good 500rpm increase in spin with the Ping heads in fits, so I tried them. Was shocked to see the numbers back up his findings. I was more amazed that the i210 spun higher than the other heads even with a degree less of loft (33*). Never knew something with such a chunky sole could feel so good off the face and with turf interaction. We should have deleted a couple of bad swings from the data to compare the clubs more equal for std deviations, my first swing after waiting for the clubs to be built with each of the ping heads was slow and not great; hence the bigger outliers for std deviation
Numbers at a glance:
- Mizuno MP-20 MMC (DG 130g X-100): 33* Loft (Bent up 1)
- Ballspeed: 130.8 (STD DEV. 1.3) Backspin: 5449 (STD DEV.197)
- Titleist T100: 34* Loft
- Ballspeed: 129.6 (STD DEV. 1.0) Backspin: 5500 (STD DEV.191)
- **Start swinging slower at this stage of testing**
- Ping iBlade: 34* Loft
- Ballspeed: 128.5 (STD DEV. 1.0) Backspin: 5933 (STD DEV.422)
- Ping i210: 33* Loft
- Ballspeed: 129.6 (STD DEV. 1.7) Backspin: 6344 (STD DEV.410)”
‘MofoJones’ asks WRXers for their opinions on both Ping’s iBlade and i210 irons, and our members have been sharing their thoughts on the clubs in our forum.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire thread and have your say at the link below.
- HighDrawsLowFades: “I’m a plus handicap and play the i210s. The short irons are actually my favorite part about them. Very consistent yardages and easy to flight etc. I even switched from a specialty wedge to the gap i210 because they’re so consistent. Good luck!”
- tets: “0 to plus handicap and I have gamed the iBlades … very solid clubs and much more forgiving than I had anticipated! To me, the i210s felt and looked chunky of tight firm fairways.”
- leftycabe: “I played both the iBlade and i210s and the i210s were superior in my mind. The only thing I did decide to change was I removed the GW and PW and went to the glide 3.0 wedges for them. Full shots were basically the same for both, but I found that around the greens I really preferred the glides because I like to play shots with an open club face and it just works better for me with a thinner sole.”
- Golf64: “The exact reason I bought 210s was the launch and spin numbers. Being a low launch and spin guy, the 210s were by far the best fit for me! And they are the softest cast club I have ever hit! Nice thing about these, a Pro can use them and a 15 capper!? Probably why Ping hasn’t replaced them yet, hard to beat!?”
- BoricuaGolf: “I play the iBlade, as you can see in my sig, I play all Ping, I’ve demoed the i200 and i210, in terms of feel, they are almost identical. But my numbers and overall performance is much better with the iBlade, I have a set of Callaway TA Prototypes (which I love), but the iBlades are much more forgiving. I don’t see them going anywhere anytime soon…just try out other clubs and stay with you think looks and performs best. Good luck.”
Entire Thread: “Ping iBlade vs i210 irons – High spinning player’s club testing”
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- Kris Kim what’s in the bag accurate as of the CJ Cup Byron Nelson. More photos from the event here.
Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 (9 degrees @7)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 60 TX
3-wood: TaylorMade Qi10 Tour (15 degrees @13.5)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana WB 73 TX
Irons: TaylorMade P770 (2, 4), TaylorMade P7MB (5-PW)
Shafts: Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 80 TX (2), Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 120 X
Wedges: TaylorMade MG4 (50-09SB, 56-12SB, 60-11TW)
Shafts: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 WV 125
Putter: TaylorMade Spider Tour
Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord
Check out more in-hand photos of Kris Kim’s equipment here.
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TaylorMade is continuing its UDI/DHY series with the successor to the Stealth UDI and DHY utility irons: PUDI and PDHY (which the company styles as P·UDI and P·DHY). TaylorMade is folding the designs in with its P Series of irons.
TaylorMade outlined the process of developing its new utilities this way. The company started with the data on utility iron usage. Not surprisingly, better players — i.e. those who generate more clubhead speed and strike the ball more precisely — were found to gravitate toward the UDI model. DHY usage, however, covered a wider swath than the company might have expected with six-to-18 handicappers found to be bagging the club.
TaylorMade also found that the majority of golfers playing UDI or DHY utilities were playing P Series irons at the top of their iron configurations.
Can you see where this is going?
Matt Bovee, Director of Product Creation, Iron and Wedge at TaylorMade: “As we look to the future, beyond the tech and the design language, we are excited about repositioning our utility irons into the P·Series family. P·UDI is an easy pair for players that currently play P·Series product and P·DHY is an extremely forgiving option for players of all skill levels. It is a natural fit to give these players the performance in this category that they are looking for.”
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TaylorMade PUDI
TaylorMade PUDI technology cutaway (via TaylorMade)
Crafted with tour player input, TaylorMade sought to develop a confidence-inspiring utility iron that blends with the rest of the P Series irons. Also of note: Interestingly, the PUDI has a more compact head than the P790.
In comparison to past UDI products, the PUDI has a more traditional iron shape, slimmer toplines, and less offset with a little of the backbar visible at address.
TaylorMade PDHY
TaylorMade PDHY tech cutaway (via TaylorMade).
Larger in profile than the PUDI, the PDHY seeks to position center of gravity (CG) lower in the club for ease of launch. The toe height is larger and the profile is larger at address — roughly five millimeters longer than PUDI — the sole of the club is wider for improved forgiveness.
Club Junkie’s take
Golfers who feel like they are missing something at the top of the bag could find the PUDI or PDHY a great option. The look of the PUDI should fit the most discerning eye with a more compact look, less offset, and a thinner topline. If you want a little more confidence looking down the P-DHY will be slightly larger while still being a good-looking utility iron.
For being small packages both models pack a pretty good punch with fast ball speeds, even off-center. The feel is soft and you get a solid feel of the ball compressing off the face when you strike it well. Your ears are greeted with a nice heavy thud as the ball and club come together. The PDHY will launch a little higher for players who need it while the PUDI offers a more penetrating ball flight. Both utility irons could be the cure for an open spot in the top end of the bag.
PUDI, PDHY, or Rescue?
TaylorMade offers the following notes to assist golfers in filling out their bags:
- PUDI has mid-CG right behind the center face to create a more penetrating mid-to-low ball flight
- PDHY has a lower center of gravity to produce an easier-to-launch mid-to-high ball flight.
- Both PUDI and PDHY are lower-flying than the company’s hybrid/Rescue clubs.
- PUDI is more forgiving than P790.
- PDHY is the most forgiving iron in the entire TaylorMade iron family
Pricing, specs, and availability
Price: $249.99
At retail: Now
Stock shafts: UST Mamiya’s Recoil DART (105 X, 90 S and 75 R – only in PDHY)
Stock grip: Golf Pride’s ZGrip (black/grey)
PUDI lofts: 2-17°, 3-20°, 4-22° in both left and right-handed
PDHY lofts: 2-18°, 3-20° and 4-22° in both left and right-handed
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Equipment
Coolest thing for sale in the GolfWRX Classifieds (5/3/24): Scotty Cameron Champions Choice 2.5+ putter
At GolfWRX, we are a community of like-minded individuals that all experience and express our enjoyment of the game in many ways.
It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball. It even allows us to share another thing we all love – buying and selling equipment.
Currently, in our GolfWRX buy/sell/trade (BST) forum, there is a listing for a Scotty Cameron Champions Choice 2.5+ putter
From the seller: (@wwcl): “Has been gamed as pics show. 33.5 includes original h/c and grip. $575 includes shipping and PP fees.”
To check out the full listing in our BST forum, head through the link: Scotty Cameron Champions Choice 2.5+ putter
This is the most impressive current listing from the GolfWRX BST, and if you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum you can check them out here: GolfWRX BST Rules
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