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Forum Thread of the Day: “Can’t hit my new irons?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Apd1992 who has made significant changes to his bag recently and is currently struggling to adapt to his new irons. From Apd1992

“I’m about a 12 handicap and recently switched from super old TaylorMade RaC OS irons with regular shafts to Titleist AP2’s with Project X LZ 6.0 shafts. I hit an average 7 iron about 170 yards. I made the club change at the advice of a PGA professional giving me lessons.

I hit my old irons reasonably consistent (at least for my handicap level), but I can’t hit my new irons very well at all. They are definitely the weakest part of my game and are preventing me from getting into single digits. I have pretty much every miss possible with them, and even my good shots don’t feel very pure. This has been surprising to me since I’ve heard such good things about AP2’s. The irons also feel very heavy, which I’m assuming is making them harder to hit.”

Our members give their suggestions to Apd1992 on methods to solve the issue he’s having, with many WRXers believing shaft adjustment holds the key to the fix.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Z4ZR3: “I’m guessing it’s all the shaft. I helped fit a friend into a stiff flex for the first time, and it took him a while to adjust, especially on the confidence side. I personally could immediately see the ball flight becoming much flatter/better, but he had been swinging some regular flex graphite irons for so long that he didn’t like the feel even when the result was just as good if not better. If you hit a 7i 170, you probably shouldn’t be playing regular flex irons, and while it’ll be weird for a bit, ultimately the stiff shafts should improve your ball flight/dispersion. I’d say stick with it.”
  • Adam C: “Something else to consider as far as distance at least. I wouldn’t be surprised if your old irons are delofted at this point. Those old sub 100g shafts are very weak at the tip. I just did a reshaft for someone with some Burner 2.0s which are 5 to 10 years newer. Had sub 100g shafts and 7 out of 8 were bent strongly at the tip. So now you are coming from super strong lofts, and even more offset. That being said, you are changing the weights a lot. 30g shaft change will take some getting used to.”
  • craz-e: “I would say the shafts will take quite a bit to get used to, very different profile and feel quite a bit different.”
  • gopherlover: “There’s been a lot of talk about the weight and stiffness of the shafts, but are length and lie the same between the irons? I’ve got a buddy who’s about a scratch golfer who was an absolute ringer in high school but doesn’t play as much anymore. He’s been playing the same clubs for about a decade, and they don’t fit him at all. Ultralite and whippy shafts in his clubs and he hits everything sky high. I asked if he thought about getting new clubs and he said it was hard to justify paying money to get worse. He struggles to hit better equipment when he tries it and doesn’t play enough to get used to it. I guess what I’m trying to say is that you’re not the only person who’s gotten used to clubs that don’t “fit” them and then struggle to adjust to something that should fit them better.”
  • lawsonman: “Give them some time. You made a big change, and it will take time to adjust.”

Entire Thread: “Can’t hit my new irons?”

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  1. Jay holiday

    Oct 26, 2019 at 7:00 am

    A 12 handicapper doesn’t have the Ball striking ability for a pro level club. Go buy game improvement irons

    • Rubin Shirodkar

      Oct 27, 2019 at 11:21 am

      Agreed!!!. In addition, the OP’s lofts for the old TM Rac OS irons are much stronger that the AP 2’s. For example, the OP’s 7 iron is probably 31 degrees of loft and the AP2’s are 34 degrees of loft. That makes a huge difference of anywhere form 8-15 yards depending on swing speed. Unless the OP is practicing twice a week and playing twice a week, he’s not going to see the results that he wants with these irons.

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Why Rory McIlroy will likely use the new TaylorMade BRNR Mini Driver Copper at the RBC Heritage

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Although we spotted Rory McIlroy testing the new TaylorMade BRNR Mini Driver Copper last week during practice rounds at the Masters, he ultimately didn’t decide to use the club in competition.

It seems that will change this week at the 2024 RBC Heritage, played at the short-and-tight Harbour Town Golf Links in Hilton Head.

When asked on Wednesday following his morning Pro-Am if he’d be using the new, nostalgic BRNR Copper this week, McIlroy said, “I think so.”

“I like it,” McIlroy told GolfWRX.com on Tuesday regarding the BRNR. “This would be a good week for it.”

 

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According to Adrian Rietveld, the Senior Manager of Tour at TaylorMade, the BRNR Mini Driver can help McIlroy position himself properly off the tee at the tight layout.

Here’s what Rietveld told GolfWRX.com on Wednesday:

“For someone like Rory, who’s that long at the top end of the bag, and then you put him on a course like Harbour Town, it’s tough off the tee. It’s tight into the greens, and you have to put yourself in position off the tee to have a shot into the green. It kind of reminds me of Valderrama in Spain, where you can be in the fairway and have no shot into the green.

“I’m caddying for Tommy [Fleetwood] this week, so I was walking the course last night and looking at a few things. There’s just such a small margin for error. You can be standing in the fairway at 300 yards and have a shot, but at 320 you don’t. So if you don’t hit a perfect shot, you could be stuck behind a tree. And then if you’re back at 280, it might be a really tough shot into the small greens.

“So for Rory [with the BRNR], it’s a nice course-specific golf club for him. He’s got both shots with it; he can move it right-to-left or left-to-right. And the main thing about this club has been the accuracy and the dispersion with it. I mean, it’s been amazing for Tommy.

“This was the first event Tommy used a BRNR last year, and I remember talking to him about it, and he said he couldn’t wait to play it at Augusta next year. And he just never took it out of the bag because he’s so comfortable with it, and hitting it off the deck.

“So you look at Rory, and you want to have the tools working to your advantage out here, and the driver could hand-cuff him a bit with all of the shots you’d have to manufacture.”

So, although McIlroy might not be making a permanent switch into the new TaylorMade BRNR Mini Driver Copper, he’s likely to switch into it this week.

His version is lofted at 13.5 degrees, and equipped with a Fujikura Ventus Black 7X shaft.

See more photos of Rory testing the BRNR Mini here

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Spotted: TaylorMade P-UDI driving iron

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It seems like the RBC Heritage is full of new gear to be spotted, and you can add TaylorMade’s P-UDI utility irons to that list.

We spotted a 17-degree P-UDI 2-iron in Nick Dunlap’s bag yesterday, and now have some photos of both the 3- and 4-irons. Nick has his P-UDI 2-iron setup with a Project X HZRDUS Black 4th Gen 105g TX shaft.

From what we can tell, this new P-UDI utility iron looks to have some of the usual TaylorMade technology as we can see the Speed Slot on the sole of the club for additional face flexibility. A toe screw is usually used to close off the hollow body design that will probably be filled with a version of TaylorMade’s Speed Foam that is present in the current iron lineup. This hollow body, foam-filled design should offer additional ball speed, soft feel, and sound, as well as an optimized CG for ball flight.

“Forged” is etched into the hosel, so we can assume that either the face, body, or both are forged for a soft and responsive feel. The club looks good from behind and at address, where we can see just a little offset and a topline that I would consider medium thickness. We don’t have the full details on what is under the hood or how many loft options will be available yet.

TaylorMade P-UDI 3-iron – 20°

TaylorMade P-UDI 4-iron – 22°

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Collin Morikawa WITB 2024 (April)

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Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 LS (9 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ Limited 60 TX (45 inches)

3-wood: TaylorMade Qi10 (13.5 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ Limited 80 TX

5-wood: TaylorMade Qi10 (18 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ Limited 80 TX

Irons: TaylorMade P770 (4), P7MC (5-6), P730 (7-PW)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Mid 115 X100 (4-6), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 (7-PW)

Wedges: TaylorMade MG4 (50-SB09, 56-LB08), TaylorMade MG4 TW (60-TW11)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Putter: TaylorMade TP Soto
Grip: SuperStroke Zenergy Tour 2.0

Grips: Golf Pride Z-Grip Cord

Ball: TaylorMade TP5x

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