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Forum Thread of the Day: “Those who have changed from forged/blade irons to big game improvers – did it improve your handicap?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from mattd1 who asks whether any fellow members have changed irons from forged/blade to game improvers, and if so, had they seen their handicap improve as a result. Our members share their experiences of making the switch.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • NRJvzr: “Played Eye2+ for a year. Was a seven at the start, was a seven at the end of that calendar year. The only thing that really came of it was a trajectory change; I hit the Eye2+ quite a bit higher than my previous irons and was playing low loft drivers. In bringing down the Ping trajectory, I found I subsequently hit everything lower, and could largely not play my old drivers. LOL”
  • Kingcat990: “Nope. I balance between the blades of blades to Cleveland CBX irons and see no change. Like others, I see a difference in ball flight, and I will grab one club stronger when using MB’s. Other than that, it’s pretty straight forward.”
  • Chuck905: “I hit the new 790s vs all the blades (mentioned here as well) yesterday, and the difference I saw was a touch higher launch and lower spin, something to keep in mind when you are hitting into greens. Or if you play windy days, the lower spin will be an advantage. Surprisingly, the new 790s felt really good.”
  • farmer: “Play hybrids through the 7, to a 5 handicap. Have they helped? Yes. Are they ugly? Yes. Do I care? No.”

Entire Thread: “Those who have changed from forged/blade irons to big game improvers – did it improve your handicap?”

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  1. Richard Douglas

    Sep 17, 2019 at 1:55 am

    I’m a 5. I play the Sterling single-length irons from Wishon Golf. But before I made the switch, I made another. I switched from I-series Ping irons to G-series. It made a huge difference. I didn’t like the offset, but I loved the lower CG, the enhanced perimeter weighting, and the fact that the G was moved closer to the I.

    “Playability” is over-rated. The vast majority of golfers have no business trying to move the ball–except in extreme cases. Hit what will produce good results more often. You’ll be happier.

    (Oh, and if Ping would come out with a single-length G-series, I’d come back home in a minute.)

  2. Alex

    Aug 28, 2019 at 9:18 pm

    Hit an i500 3 iron and i210 4 iron and s55 5/PW. Don’t think I’d like the bigger ones above 5 iron, but in long irons I love having more help and would never go back to an iblade or s55 long iron.

  3. Uncle Buck

    Aug 28, 2019 at 2:53 am

    Yes, absolutely! I went from Callaway MB’s to Cobra F9 Speedback’s, and yes, my ball striking improved over night! Going from butter knives to shovels will improve anyone’s game dramatically. Had to check my multi-year golfing ego at the door, and glad I did. I was a pretty decent golfer to begin with, 8 hdcp., but shaved some strokes immediately with these bad boys. I’m a solid 4 hdcp. since I put these in the bag last April. I just aim and shoot. When I do miss greens it’s no more than 12-15 yards off.

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Welcome to the family: TaylorMade launches PUDI and PDHY utility irons

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TaylorMade is continuing its UDI/DHY series with the successor to the Stealth UDI and DHY utility irons: PUDI and PDHY (which the company styles as P·UDI and P·DHY). TaylorMade is folding the designs in with its P Series of irons.

TaylorMade outlined the process of developing its new utilities this way. The company started with the data on utility iron usage. Not surprisingly, better players — i.e. those who generate more clubhead speed and strike the ball more precisely — were found to gravitate toward the UDI model. DHY usage, however, covered a wider swath than the company might have expected with six-to-18 handicappers found to be bagging the club.

TaylorMade also found that the majority of golfers playing UDI or DHY utilities were playing P Series irons at the top of their iron configurations.

Can you see where this is going?

Matt Bovee, Director of Product Creation, Iron and Wedge at TaylorMade: “As we look to the future, beyond the tech and the design language, we are excited about repositioning our utility irons into the P·Series family. P·UDI is an easy pair for players that currently play P·Series product and P·DHY is an extremely forgiving option for players of all skill levels. It is a natural fit to give these players the performance in this category that they are looking for.”

 

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TaylorMade PUDI

TaylorMade PUDI technology cutaway (via TaylorMade)

Crafted with tour player input, TaylorMade sought to develop a confidence-inspiring utility iron that blends with the rest of the P Series irons. Also of note: Interestingly, the PUDI has a more compact head than the P790.

In comparison to past UDI products, the PUDI has a more traditional iron shape, slimmer toplines, and less offset with a little of the backbar visible at address.

TaylorMade PDHY

TaylorMade PDHY tech cutaway (via TaylorMade).

Larger in profile than the PUDI, the PDHY seeks to position center of gravity (CG) lower in the club for ease of launch. The toe height is larger and the profile is larger at address — roughly five millimeters longer than PUDI — the sole of the club is wider for improved forgiveness.

Club Junkie’s take

Golfers who feel like they are missing something at the top of the bag could find the PUDI or PDHY a great option. The look of the PUDI should fit the most discerning eye with a more compact look, less offset, and a thinner topline. If you want a little more confidence looking down the P-DHY will be slightly larger while still being a good-looking utility iron.

For being small packages both models pack a pretty good punch with fast ball speeds, even off-center. The feel is soft and you get a solid feel of the ball compressing off the face when you strike it well. Your ears are greeted with a nice heavy thud as the ball and club come together. The PDHY will launch a little higher for players who need it while the PUDI offers a more penetrating ball flight. Both utility irons could be the cure for an open spot in the top end of the bag.

PUDI, PDHY, or Rescue?

TaylorMade offers the following notes to assist golfers in filling out their bags:

  • PUDI has mid-CG right behind the center face to create a more penetrating mid-to-low ball flight
  • PDHY has a lower center of gravity to produce an easier-to-launch mid-to-high ball flight.
  • Both PUDI and PDHY are lower-flying than the company’s hybrid/Rescue clubs.
  • PUDI is more forgiving than P790.
  • PDHY is the most forgiving iron in the entire TaylorMade iron family

Pricing, specs, and availability

Price: $249.99

At retail: Now

Stock shafts: UST Mamiya’s Recoil DART (105 X, 90 S and 75 R – only in PDHY)

Stock grip: Golf Pride’s ZGrip (black/grey)

PUDI lofts: 2-17°, 3-20°, 4-22° in both left and right-handed

PDHY lofts: 2-18°, 3-20° and 4-22° in both left and right-handed

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Coolest thing for sale in the GolfWRX Classifieds (5/3/24): Scotty Cameron Champions Choice 2.5+ putter

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At GolfWRX, we are a community of like-minded individuals that all experience and express our enjoyment of the game in many ways.

It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball. It even allows us to share another thing we all love – buying and selling equipment.

Currently, in our GolfWRX buy/sell/trade (BST) forum, there is a listing for a Scotty Cameron Champions Choice 2.5+ putter

From the seller: (@wwcl): “Has been gamed as pics show. 33.5 includes original h/c and grip. $575 includes shipping and PP fees.”

To check out the full listing in our BST forum, head through the link: Scotty Cameron Champions Choice 2.5+ putter

This is the most impressive current listing from the GolfWRX BST, and if you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum you can check them out here: GolfWRX BST Rules

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Richy Werenski WITB 2024 (May)

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  • Richy Werenski what’s in the bag accurate as of the CJ Cup Houston Open.

Driver: Titleist TSR3 (10 degrees, D1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana PD 60 TX

3-wood: Titleist TSR2 (15 degrees, A1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Red 8 X

Hybrid: Titleist TSR3 (19 degrees, D1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro White Hybrid 90 TX

Irons: Titleist T100 (4-9)
Shafts: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 105 S

Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM9 (46-10F, 50-12F), Titleist Vokey Design WedgeWorks Proto (54-M, 58-L @60)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Onyx (46-50), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400 Onyx (54-60)

Putter: Scotty Cameron prototype

Ball: Titleist Pro V1x Left Dash

Grips: Golf Pride ZGrip Cord

Check out more in-hand photos of Richy Werenski’s clubs in the forums.

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