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Forum Thread of the Day: “Most overrated/underrated equipment in golf”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from orangeology who asks fellow members to share what they feel are the most underrated and overrated pieces of equipment currently in the sport. Our members divulge, with word one representing overrated, and word two underrated.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire thread and have your say at the link below.

  • cliffhanger: “Forgiveness / Having high lofted wedges.
  • Christen_The_Sloop: “Practice / Play. Bridgestone golf equipment – that stuff is underrated
  • Bubb: “Scotty Cameron putters / Titleist TS2 drivers and fairway woods.
  • smithy23: “Major OEMs / Srixon Irons”
  • Kevinz: “Most underrated is the motorised caddies, saves at least two shots per round. Most overrated is the driver shaft, not a whole lot of difference distance wise.”

Entire Thread: “Most overrated/underrated equipment in golf”

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  1. Tully

    Jul 23, 2019 at 10:14 pm

    Overrated Tiger Woods

    Overrated Taylor Made

    Underrated – Everything else…

  2. s

    Jul 13, 2019 at 5:52 pm

    Over – $300+ shafts
    Under – MP-37

  3. Alfredo Smith

    Jul 10, 2019 at 4:42 pm

    UnderRated, PXG

    OverRated PXG criticism and all the hate, LOL

    • kevin moran

      Jul 15, 2019 at 9:32 pm

      Very True. Spot on. Expensive? Yep. Excellent? Yep. I cannot afford a Ferrari, but I can appreciate the excellence of the vehicle. I don’t hate the company for making a premium product.

  4. N D Boondocks

    Jul 8, 2019 at 2:38 pm

    Most over-rated – how far guys claim they can hit their driver

    Most under-rated – how far most guys claim the other guy hits his driver

  5. Yomomma

    Jul 5, 2019 at 9:18 am

    Vokey/the umbrella.

  6. Eric Grafton

    Jul 4, 2019 at 7:28 am

    Overrated, most instructors. They all “think” they know what they’re doing..but only teach what worked for THEM at ONE moment in time. Go to 10 different instructors, and you’ll get 9 different ways of doing the same thing. They don’t take into consideration all physical limitations and physical differences of everyone they’re teaching.

    These instructors also include those “fitting” someone into a $500 driver. PLEASE!!….they are doing this sport and industry a disservice. Nothing is funnier than watching a guy in our league FINALLY get a hold of one at 280+, (with his $500 driver) and proceed to duff the next shot, or turn a great drive into a triple bogie because he doesn’t know how to USE HIS WEDGE or PUTT.

    All they do by selling that driver is ultimately frustrate people into not wanting to play and spend more on golf, because that driver didn’t turn them into a 9 from playing off a 25.

    • d

      Jul 8, 2019 at 12:52 pm

      nobody forces anyone to buy anything…..fitting is nothing more than intelligently reducing the possibilities while testing to what you hit best….you can fit yourself if you had more time and all the equipment possibilities laying around. but you dont…

      if someone wants to hit 280 with their one good drive instead of 250 then so be it….
      i think fitting on irons as or more important than driver…

  7. geohogan

    Jul 1, 2019 at 10:59 am

    Alignment sticks so overrated.
    We stand on our legs…legs are attached to the heels of our feet, so why
    do golf instructors lay alignment stick across our toes?

    Our alignment is to the quadrant of the ball we intend to impact, not the target line. So why do golf instructors have alignment sticks along target line
    as if we intend to impact the back of the ball. its no wonder 95 of golfers slice the ball.

    We sweep the inside quadrant of the ball with the heel of the clubface. The design of the golf club ensures the clubface squares to the ball.
    Never will happen as long as we misuse alignment sticks

  8. Alex

    Jun 30, 2019 at 12:23 pm

    I think pure shafts make a ton of sense. At very least it gives you less to worry about/ be upset about when you aren’t hitting it well.

    • geohogan

      Jul 1, 2019 at 11:08 am

      Golf shafts, off the shelf are worth about $10.
      Imperfect is an understatement. Very overrated.

      Pureing a cheap shaft is like, “lipstick on a pig”.

      There are shafts that are mostly perfectly round and symmetrical due to
      the manufacturing process. eg Nunchuk Xi at $50

  9. Dan

    Jun 30, 2019 at 4:04 am

    Overrated-PXG, Jumbo Maxx grips, anything that promises distance for seniors and ladies, low compression balls for everyone, chippers, pro-v 1’s price, and most of all puring shafts. No real players do it. Look at all the pro’s , all the shaft logos are down in the same spot, not 1 pured. Huge scam to add cost. You trust the $200+ shafts preformance but not how they want it installed? Plus the shaft doesn’t flex in a straight line anyway. It goes toe up and back to toe down and through. Most amateurs can’t make the same swing twice anyway and the ones that can don’t pure them. If you adjust the driver weighting it affects the way the cluhead releases which if it worked you’d need the shaft repured after every adjustment. Totall BS scam.

  10. James Awad

    Jun 29, 2019 at 6:59 pm

    Titleist & Cameron. Most over rated everything

    Underrated? FOURTEEN, Brigestone irons, Srixon irons, Tour Edge proline Wilson proline & Mizuno metal woods – even the hardcore Miz guys won’t even demon them ‘gotta have Titleist driver’????????????

  11. John

    Jun 29, 2019 at 5:19 pm

    See More putters are so underrated. Such quality !!!
    Srixon Irons… or is the word out now?

  12. joro

    Jun 29, 2019 at 4:53 pm

    Under rated, Wilson Golf, quality and lower cost. Over rated, all those that have to spend Millions to convince us that their product is the best and in many cases it is nothing but Bull+++T. And included in the Over Rated krap is those self promoting “GURU Teachers. Does the teacher make the player or does the player make the teacher.

    Equipment and teachers are both over rated.

  13. THETadersalad

    Jun 29, 2019 at 8:08 am

    Over rated – variable length irons
    under rated – single length irons

  14. T

    Jun 29, 2019 at 2:27 am

    460 cc drivers. Complexly under rated and misunderstood.
    Who wants to go back to 150cc Persimmons?

  15. Rich

    Jun 28, 2019 at 10:04 pm

    Overrated? Any irons that promise more distance. That’s jive. They offer more distance by strengthening lofts, making the shafts longer, and keeping the number the same. You don’t want more distance. You want predictable distance and precise gapping.

    Any woods that promise anything other than more accuracy. Woods are already limited in length, size, MOI and COR. You simply cannot make a wood hit it farther. But you CAN continue to use exotic materials to move weight out to the perimeter to make them more forgiving, and you CAN make them wonderfully adjustable so they can be fit with precision.

    PXG? Maybe. Forget price; are they better clubs? If so, then “overrated” isn’t the right adjective. They may not be worth the price, but if they’re really better, they’re not overrated. But are they really better? If not, they’re overrated.

    Blades. Sorry, but those are about ego, not performance. They don’t perform better. But people who play this game for a living can it the sweet spot so precisely that perimeter weighting wouldn’t help them anyway. But for the vast majority of golfers, they’re a detriment to their games.

    Anything that creates a distinction without a different. The TM SLDR driver, for example. Or the Twist Face–does it really make a difference?

    I hit a driver about 245 carry. I carry an 8-iron about 160. If you offer me more distance than that, I’ll pass. (It probably comes from tricks with trade-offs anyway.) But if you offer me more accurate clubs–even if they’re shorter–I’m listening.

    • geohogan

      Jul 4, 2019 at 7:48 am

      @ Rich
      Heavier clubheads, with mass further from centerline of the shaft(flywheel)
      will increase forces that cause droop, kick and twisting. These are all causes of less consistency and loss of accuracy.
      ie larger clubheads are often over rated as more accurate, if and when paired with cheap off the shelf golf shafts, that cannot withstand increased forces causing droop, kick and twisting.

      • Simms

        Jul 12, 2019 at 2:47 am

        Do think for one minute a major OEM is going to spend up words of $300,000 to develop a driver head and then put it on a shaft it will not work with, even if the shaft cost $10 it will work with the driver head….sure the highest level player is looking at inches and a high end shaft maybe be 5 yards longer of 3% more on line, but by far the average player maybe a 10 or more is going to be fine with tne OEM standard shaft.

    • JC

      Jul 4, 2019 at 7:55 am

      You should be carrying your driver 280+ if you carry 8 iron 160.

      • Michael Constantine

        Jul 6, 2019 at 8:43 am

        I carry my driver 275 plus and my 8 iron 155 at most. I don’t think driver and iron swings equate in some amateurs such as myself. I’m a fairly strong guy who played baseball all my life. Swinging a driver is like riding a bike for me. Swinging anything less than a 6 iron feels awkward to me and I struggle the further I go down the line from 8-Lob on full shots. So to say if you carry an 8 iron 160 means you carry a driver 280 isn’t always the case.

      • Bob Johnson

        Jul 8, 2019 at 3:58 pm

        JC – I could not agree more…

      • Rich

        Jul 8, 2019 at 6:00 pm

        I might be conservative with the driver carry estimate. But I definitely don’t carry it 280.

      • RP

        Jul 9, 2019 at 4:44 pm

        Why? Do you know his driver and iron specs?

        • RGL

          Jul 25, 2019 at 1:02 am

          RP….It points to a lack of efficiency with the driver. A lot of people struggle with that…myself included but am working on it. Typically with amateurs the gapping narrows and efficiency drops as you move to your long irons and woods. Driver carry average for me is 250 which is up from 235. My driver was only about 10yds longer than my 3 wood at that time. 3 wood carry is at 235 now and 8 iron carry is stable at 150. Ideal goal for me is 265-270 carry with a driver. Confident I’ll be there by end of the year as I usually get 2 or 3 out there at that distance in a round now.

  16. Madeline Morgan

    Jun 28, 2019 at 8:47 pm

    Scotty Cameron/Evnroll

  17. Distance Compression Dude

    Jun 28, 2019 at 12:48 pm

    GX7 Hot Metal, Vixa V12, Square Strike Wedge, C3i Wedge, Hammer Driver

    All overrated and hot garbage.

    • MIKE

      Jul 9, 2019 at 3:12 pm

      You have to yell when you hit the Hammer driver or else it doesn’t perform well. Just like the infomercial. LOL

  18. dj

    Jun 28, 2019 at 11:49 am

    Pured shafts! Overrated!

    • James Awad

      Jun 29, 2019 at 6:54 pm

      No. Proven a thousand times on Trackman & high speed HD video at our place. We don’t build any high end irons or install a driver shaft without doing it. It absolutely works

      • Dan

        Jul 2, 2019 at 9:43 pm

        I’ve heard Puring is a must and it’s complete BS. I understand each shaft has a spine and the concept makes perfect sense but people who know a lot more than me don’t think it matters.

        • Dan W

          Jul 25, 2019 at 3:44 am

          Look up how high end graphite shafts are made. They don’t have spines. The layers are overlapping. And btw spining shafts find a strong and weak side of the shaft. Either way puring shaft is total BS. I don’t care what someone proves the preformance says otherwise.

  19. David Lehmann

    Jun 28, 2019 at 11:21 am

    PXG!! PXG!!! PXG!!!

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For lots more photos, check out the full thread here.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • nova6868: “These new putters look so much better than their first line.”
  • keto: “My eyes a popping out. I could roll most of those confident I would put a decent stroke on them. I haven’t checked $$, I imagine they are $$$$$, but I sure like the weighting options.”
  • chip75: “Look so much cleaner without the weights visible.”

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“We are working on bringing 2nd Gen Tensei product to market – this is the first week of PGA Tour testing.

Be sure to stay tuned for more information towards the beginning of 2020!”

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • AdamStoutjesdyk: “I’m already a huge fan of the Pro White, I can’t wait to see how these look and perform in person!”
  • ForTourUseonly: “Please make an Orange!”

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Honma launches new XP-1 Series driver, fairway woods, and hybrids for 2020

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new 2020 Honma Driver

For 2020, Honma Golf is launching the all-new XP-1 line of clubs comprised of an entire family holistically designed to help players maximize forgiveness and get the most out of their games with one set. The new Honma XP-1 drivers, fairway woods, and hybrids, all the way to irons, is a new direction for the premium Japanese company that brings together ultimate craftsmanship with performance.

The highlight of the XP-1 line from Honma is the fact that they were designed from top to bottom to work as a comprehensive set of tool to achieve maximum performance. The technology in the metal woods flows from the driver to the hybrids with a seamless transition that creates consistency for feel and looks for the player.

Honma XP-1 driver

new 2020 Honma Driver

New 2020 Honma Golf Driver

Honma is known for its dedication to quality and craftsmanship, and every part of the XP-1 line was developed with the golfer in mind to both look appealing and perform to the highest standards. The XP-1 driver packs a lot of technology into a very classic looking club, and we’re here to take you under the hood—or in this case, the carbon fiber crown—to show you how it can help you hit better shots.

2020 Honma XP1 Driver toe

Honma XP-1 Driver Toe

It starts with a tour-inspired look from address, designed to inspire confidence for any level of golfer. Underneath ther gloss black crown, there is a lot of technology to generate faster ball speeds around the entire face and help get you dialed into the right setting. Speaking to the crown, it’s made from ET-40 fiber, making it one the lightest in golf. This weight savings helps engineers relocate an additional 15g of mass around the head towards the heel for increased MOI and greater ability to help players close the club face more easily.

Flip the driver upside down, and we have a lot more going on with the sole than initially meets the eye. Honma is introducing a new double slot in the sole for increased ball speed across a much larger area of the face. What starts off smaller in the middle increases in width and depth as it reaches towards the heel and the toe of the club. These slots, along with improved MOI, keep ball speeds up and misses closer to the intended target. The last part of the equation: How these wider parts of the face, flex around the more narrow middle to also increase gear effect—think of it like one more way to help the bigger misses stay in play.

New 2020 Honma Driver XP1

2020 Honma XP-1 Driver sole and shaft adjustment connection

The last piece key piece of technology in the XP-1 driver head is exclusive to Honma—the adjustable hosel that changes face angle, lie, and loft, but never changes the orientation of the shaft. This gives the player or fitter the ability to truly dial in hosel settings without having to worry about the constantly changing of the grip orientation. This, according to Honma, also keeps the shaft spine in the ideal location for consistent performance.

Honma 2020 xp1 driver shaft

Honmq Vizard 43g shaft

Honma is the only manufacturer that produces its own shafts from start to finish in house, and the XP-1 is getting its own custom-designed and built shafts to complement the technology built into the heads. The Vizard stock shafts are engineered to produce a smooth feel that promotes faster clubhead speeds, yet also remain extremely stable. For the XP-1 driver, the matching Vizard shafts will come in weights of 43g, 53g, and 63g, and flexes from senior to stiff.

Honma XP-1 fairway woods

The XP-1 woods bring the same level of craftsmanship and technology as the drivers to a club designed for use both off the tee and off the fairway.

New for 2020 Honma XP-1 Fairway wood

New for 2020 Honma XP-1 Fairway wood

The Honma XP-1 3-wood uses the same weight-saving ET-40 crown to position a large amount of the club’s total mass low and on the sole for greatest possible launch and spin consistency. The 3-wood is the second-lightest club in most players bags by total weight and head mass, and unless you are carrying a second driver, it’s also the second-largest by volume. By using the carbon crown designers get everything they can from the other technologies including the double slot sole and thin fast face without having to sacrifice the overall design of not just the head but the entire club.

New Honma XP-1 3 wood crown fairway

Honma XP-1 3 wood crown

The XP-1 fairways also include a 5  7-woods, but with the smaller volume of the heads and the reduced crown size, using a carbon crown would actually increase the mass higher in the head, so they instead utilize an extremely thin high strength steel crown.

New Honma 53g Vizard Fairway Shaft XP1

Honma 53g Vizard Fairway Shaft

All of the fairway woods come with the same made-in-Sakata, Japan 43g, 53g, and 63g Vizard shaft options as the driver to help every player get the most of each club in the set. If might seem like a minor detail, but being able to design an entire club in house from head to grip is a big advantage for Honma versus other OEMs. This holistic approach to designing an entire club/set is a big benefit to the consumer looking to get the most out of each club in their bag and not feel like something may be working against them.

Honma XP-1 hybrid

With the Honma XP-1 hybrid, forgiveness and flow from the fairway woods is the number one consideration for these club. The flow includes a wood-like shape that keeps the club shallow and the center of gravity as low as possible for higher launch and approach shots that fly higher and land softer. Considering the target player for the XP-1 line, the wood-like shape is also very confidence-inspiring.

New 2020 Honma XP1 hybrid

Honma XP-1 Hybrid

Honma continues the design philosophy of keeping the XP-1 both forgiving and fast by utilizing the double slot sole all the way into these hybrids that go from a 19-degree 3-iron replacement to a 25-degree 5-iron replacement.

Honma XP-1 specs & availability

The Honma XP-1 driver, fairway wood, and hybrids will be available starting in October.

New 2020 Honma XP1 Driver fairway hybrid specs

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