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Forum Thread of the Day: “Most overrated/underrated equipment in golf”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from orangeology who asks fellow members to share what they feel are the most underrated and overrated pieces of equipment currently in the sport. Our members divulge, with word one representing overrated, and word two underrated.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire thread and have your say at the link below.

  • cliffhanger: “Forgiveness / Having high lofted wedges.
  • Christen_The_Sloop: “Practice / Play. Bridgestone golf equipment – that stuff is underrated
  • Bubb: “Scotty Cameron putters / Titleist TS2 drivers and fairway woods.
  • smithy23: “Major OEMs / Srixon Irons”
  • Kevinz: “Most underrated is the motorised caddies, saves at least two shots per round. Most overrated is the driver shaft, not a whole lot of difference distance wise.”

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  1. Tully

    Jul 23, 2019 at 10:14 pm

    Overrated Tiger Woods

    Overrated Taylor Made

    Underrated – Everything else…

  2. s

    Jul 13, 2019 at 5:52 pm

    Over – $300+ shafts
    Under – MP-37

  3. Alfredo Smith

    Jul 10, 2019 at 4:42 pm

    UnderRated, PXG

    OverRated PXG criticism and all the hate, LOL

    • kevin moran

      Jul 15, 2019 at 9:32 pm

      Very True. Spot on. Expensive? Yep. Excellent? Yep. I cannot afford a Ferrari, but I can appreciate the excellence of the vehicle. I don’t hate the company for making a premium product.

  4. N D Boondocks

    Jul 8, 2019 at 2:38 pm

    Most over-rated – how far guys claim they can hit their driver

    Most under-rated – how far most guys claim the other guy hits his driver

  5. Yomomma

    Jul 5, 2019 at 9:18 am

    Vokey/the umbrella.

  6. Eric Grafton

    Jul 4, 2019 at 7:28 am

    Overrated, most instructors. They all “think” they know what they’re doing..but only teach what worked for THEM at ONE moment in time. Go to 10 different instructors, and you’ll get 9 different ways of doing the same thing. They don’t take into consideration all physical limitations and physical differences of everyone they’re teaching.

    These instructors also include those “fitting” someone into a $500 driver. PLEASE!!….they are doing this sport and industry a disservice. Nothing is funnier than watching a guy in our league FINALLY get a hold of one at 280+, (with his $500 driver) and proceed to duff the next shot, or turn a great drive into a triple bogie because he doesn’t know how to USE HIS WEDGE or PUTT.

    All they do by selling that driver is ultimately frustrate people into not wanting to play and spend more on golf, because that driver didn’t turn them into a 9 from playing off a 25.

    • d

      Jul 8, 2019 at 12:52 pm

      nobody forces anyone to buy anything…..fitting is nothing more than intelligently reducing the possibilities while testing to what you hit best….you can fit yourself if you had more time and all the equipment possibilities laying around. but you dont…

      if someone wants to hit 280 with their one good drive instead of 250 then so be it….
      i think fitting on irons as or more important than driver…

  7. geohogan

    Jul 1, 2019 at 10:59 am

    Alignment sticks so overrated.
    We stand on our legs…legs are attached to the heels of our feet, so why
    do golf instructors lay alignment stick across our toes?

    Our alignment is to the quadrant of the ball we intend to impact, not the target line. So why do golf instructors have alignment sticks along target line
    as if we intend to impact the back of the ball. its no wonder 95 of golfers slice the ball.

    We sweep the inside quadrant of the ball with the heel of the clubface. The design of the golf club ensures the clubface squares to the ball.
    Never will happen as long as we misuse alignment sticks

  8. Alex

    Jun 30, 2019 at 12:23 pm

    I think pure shafts make a ton of sense. At very least it gives you less to worry about/ be upset about when you aren’t hitting it well.

    • geohogan

      Jul 1, 2019 at 11:08 am

      Golf shafts, off the shelf are worth about $10.
      Imperfect is an understatement. Very overrated.

      Pureing a cheap shaft is like, “lipstick on a pig”.

      There are shafts that are mostly perfectly round and symmetrical due to
      the manufacturing process. eg Nunchuk Xi at $50

  9. Dan

    Jun 30, 2019 at 4:04 am

    Overrated-PXG, Jumbo Maxx grips, anything that promises distance for seniors and ladies, low compression balls for everyone, chippers, pro-v 1’s price, and most of all puring shafts. No real players do it. Look at all the pro’s , all the shaft logos are down in the same spot, not 1 pured. Huge scam to add cost. You trust the $200+ shafts preformance but not how they want it installed? Plus the shaft doesn’t flex in a straight line anyway. It goes toe up and back to toe down and through. Most amateurs can’t make the same swing twice anyway and the ones that can don’t pure them. If you adjust the driver weighting it affects the way the cluhead releases which if it worked you’d need the shaft repured after every adjustment. Totall BS scam.

  10. James Awad

    Jun 29, 2019 at 6:59 pm

    Titleist & Cameron. Most over rated everything

    Underrated? FOURTEEN, Brigestone irons, Srixon irons, Tour Edge proline Wilson proline & Mizuno metal woods – even the hardcore Miz guys won’t even demon them ‘gotta have Titleist driver’????????????

  11. John

    Jun 29, 2019 at 5:19 pm

    See More putters are so underrated. Such quality !!!
    Srixon Irons… or is the word out now?

  12. joro

    Jun 29, 2019 at 4:53 pm

    Under rated, Wilson Golf, quality and lower cost. Over rated, all those that have to spend Millions to convince us that their product is the best and in many cases it is nothing but Bull+++T. And included in the Over Rated krap is those self promoting “GURU Teachers. Does the teacher make the player or does the player make the teacher.

    Equipment and teachers are both over rated.

  13. THETadersalad

    Jun 29, 2019 at 8:08 am

    Over rated – variable length irons
    under rated – single length irons

  14. T

    Jun 29, 2019 at 2:27 am

    460 cc drivers. Complexly under rated and misunderstood.
    Who wants to go back to 150cc Persimmons?

  15. Rich

    Jun 28, 2019 at 10:04 pm

    Overrated? Any irons that promise more distance. That’s jive. They offer more distance by strengthening lofts, making the shafts longer, and keeping the number the same. You don’t want more distance. You want predictable distance and precise gapping.

    Any woods that promise anything other than more accuracy. Woods are already limited in length, size, MOI and COR. You simply cannot make a wood hit it farther. But you CAN continue to use exotic materials to move weight out to the perimeter to make them more forgiving, and you CAN make them wonderfully adjustable so they can be fit with precision.

    PXG? Maybe. Forget price; are they better clubs? If so, then “overrated” isn’t the right adjective. They may not be worth the price, but if they’re really better, they’re not overrated. But are they really better? If not, they’re overrated.

    Blades. Sorry, but those are about ego, not performance. They don’t perform better. But people who play this game for a living can it the sweet spot so precisely that perimeter weighting wouldn’t help them anyway. But for the vast majority of golfers, they’re a detriment to their games.

    Anything that creates a distinction without a different. The TM SLDR driver, for example. Or the Twist Face–does it really make a difference?

    I hit a driver about 245 carry. I carry an 8-iron about 160. If you offer me more distance than that, I’ll pass. (It probably comes from tricks with trade-offs anyway.) But if you offer me more accurate clubs–even if they’re shorter–I’m listening.

    • geohogan

      Jul 4, 2019 at 7:48 am

      @ Rich
      Heavier clubheads, with mass further from centerline of the shaft(flywheel)
      will increase forces that cause droop, kick and twisting. These are all causes of less consistency and loss of accuracy.
      ie larger clubheads are often over rated as more accurate, if and when paired with cheap off the shelf golf shafts, that cannot withstand increased forces causing droop, kick and twisting.

      • Simms

        Jul 12, 2019 at 2:47 am

        Do think for one minute a major OEM is going to spend up words of $300,000 to develop a driver head and then put it on a shaft it will not work with, even if the shaft cost $10 it will work with the driver head….sure the highest level player is looking at inches and a high end shaft maybe be 5 yards longer of 3% more on line, but by far the average player maybe a 10 or more is going to be fine with tne OEM standard shaft.

    • JC

      Jul 4, 2019 at 7:55 am

      You should be carrying your driver 280+ if you carry 8 iron 160.

      • Michael Constantine

        Jul 6, 2019 at 8:43 am

        I carry my driver 275 plus and my 8 iron 155 at most. I don’t think driver and iron swings equate in some amateurs such as myself. I’m a fairly strong guy who played baseball all my life. Swinging a driver is like riding a bike for me. Swinging anything less than a 6 iron feels awkward to me and I struggle the further I go down the line from 8-Lob on full shots. So to say if you carry an 8 iron 160 means you carry a driver 280 isn’t always the case.

      • Bob Johnson

        Jul 8, 2019 at 3:58 pm

        JC – I could not agree more…

      • Rich

        Jul 8, 2019 at 6:00 pm

        I might be conservative with the driver carry estimate. But I definitely don’t carry it 280.

      • RP

        Jul 9, 2019 at 4:44 pm

        Why? Do you know his driver and iron specs?

        • RGL

          Jul 25, 2019 at 1:02 am

          RP….It points to a lack of efficiency with the driver. A lot of people struggle with that…myself included but am working on it. Typically with amateurs the gapping narrows and efficiency drops as you move to your long irons and woods. Driver carry average for me is 250 which is up from 235. My driver was only about 10yds longer than my 3 wood at that time. 3 wood carry is at 235 now and 8 iron carry is stable at 150. Ideal goal for me is 265-270 carry with a driver. Confident I’ll be there by end of the year as I usually get 2 or 3 out there at that distance in a round now.

  16. Madeline Morgan

    Jun 28, 2019 at 8:47 pm

    Scotty Cameron/Evnroll

  17. Distance Compression Dude

    Jun 28, 2019 at 12:48 pm

    GX7 Hot Metal, Vixa V12, Square Strike Wedge, C3i Wedge, Hammer Driver

    All overrated and hot garbage.

    • MIKE

      Jul 9, 2019 at 3:12 pm

      You have to yell when you hit the Hammer driver or else it doesn’t perform well. Just like the infomercial. LOL

  18. dj

    Jun 28, 2019 at 11:49 am

    Pured shafts! Overrated!

    • James Awad

      Jun 29, 2019 at 6:54 pm

      No. Proven a thousand times on Trackman & high speed HD video at our place. We don’t build any high end irons or install a driver shaft without doing it. It absolutely works

      • Dan

        Jul 2, 2019 at 9:43 pm

        I’ve heard Puring is a must and it’s complete BS. I understand each shaft has a spine and the concept makes perfect sense but people who know a lot more than me don’t think it matters.

        • Dan W

          Jul 25, 2019 at 3:44 am

          Look up how high end graphite shafts are made. They don’t have spines. The layers are overlapping. And btw spining shafts find a strong and weak side of the shaft. Either way puring shaft is total BS. I don’t care what someone proves the preformance says otherwise.

  19. David Lehmann

    Jun 28, 2019 at 11:21 am

    PXG!! PXG!!! PXG!!!

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Today from the Forums: “Recommend me a 14th club…”

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Today from the Forums showcases our members helping out ewe8523 who is on the hunt for a 14th club. Per ewe8523:

“My home course is fairly short 6050 yards, so I’m not really in a position where I have to hit a lot of long fairway shots. There is one par 5 on each side – 548 and 449 respectively.

Open to other options as well.

Including current specs and avg distance.

  1. Driver – Cobra F9 – 250 yards
  2. 3-Wood – Cobra F7 – 220 yards
  3. Hybrid – Callaway Epic – 200 yards
  4. 5 Iron – Callaway Apex CF16 – 175 yards
  5. 6 Iron – Callaway Apex CF16 – 165 yards
  6. 7 Iron – Callaway Apex CF16 – 155 yards
  7. 8 Iron – Callaway Apex CF16 – 145 yards
  8. 9 Iron – Callaway Apex CF16 – 130 yards
  9. PW – Callaway Apex CF16 – 115 yards
  10. 50 Degree – Vokey SM6 – 100 yards
  11. 56 Degree – Vokey SM6 – 75 yards
  12. 60 Degree – Cleveland CBX – Bunker Only
  13. Putter – Scotty Cameron Newport 2
  14. ?”

WRXers have been giving their suggestions on what could work best for ewe8523, and also discussing what they have found most useful from a 14th club standpoint.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • heathpitts: “Very similar setup and gapping to my setup. Although my wedge lofts are a bit different. I have wedges at 50, 54, 58, and 62 but generally, only carry 3 per round. I adjust the 54-62 based on where I’m gonna play. I do also have a graphite shafted 3 utility iron that I play around with as a driving iron, but I see that you haven’t really found one that you like. I adjust the 14th club based on the course or conditions or time of year (due to different wedge grinds) sometimes but try to keep it as simple as possible. I think your setup is pretty good honestly. I always seem to score better with fewer options, so I don’t try to get cute with shot selection 🙂 I play 13 clubs a lot of times.”
  • MP4444: “I agree with the others on a club to hit that 185-190yrd spot. Either a hybrid or an iron with extra help compared to the CF16s. I personally have a 4 hybrid and a more game-improvement style 5 iron that I use interchangeably for this spot in my bag depending on how I’m striking the ball. When my ball striking is on, I usually prefer an iron in this spot because my misses are smaller, but it’s nice to have the help of a hybrid when I’m not feeling so on with my game. If you go the iron route just be sure to check out the lofts to ensure the proper gapping. Some game improvement and super game improvement type irons have stronger lofts so you may need to look at a 4 or 5 iron depending on the model. I would also recommend hitting both on a launch monitor and comparing peak height and spin numbers. You are still typically looking to hold a green at this distance, so you want to make sure you are getting enough height and spin to have a chance.”
  • Z1ggy16: “The obvious choice is like a 188-yard club but if you never need that shot… Why spend the money? Other option is like a 64* wedge, but that’s probably going to get you into trouble more often than not. I’d lean toward the 185-190 yard club, probably another hybrid, gives you more flexibility if you play other courses that are longer.”
  • crapula: “Higher lofted Callaway Epic?”

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Today from the Forums: “Best 54/56-degree wedge for a sweeper?”

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Today from the Forums we take a look at 54 and 56-degree wedges which are effective on full shots from tight lies. WRXer, 10of14, is a sweeper of the ball and has reached out to fellow members who have been giving their suggestions in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • dhen9: “M grind or ES Glide 2.0.”
  • PowerCobra98: “Callaway MD4 or MD5 with the C Grind.”
  • bsb70x7: “I am a sweeper and a low bounce player. I play Vokey 54 with 10* of bounce (as my highest bounce). You may want to go with 8* of bounce if you use your Lob wedge in the sand.”
  • NYCGolfNut: “I’m the same. M grind Vokey – 8 deg bounce, heel and toe relief. Works great.”

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Today from the Forums: “Searching for a 5-wood”

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Today from the Forums we take a look at 5-woods, with WRXer, RAMDAN, on the hunt for a new addition to his bag. Our members discuss the options on the market and give their take on the best models from their experiences.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Golf64: “Cobra F8 and 9s are still out there, and the new SZ is nice too. I prefer Ping, love the look and feel and easy to get in the air!!”
  • KGilma: “I just replaced my F6 baffler with the F9. It is a definite upgrade. I still have the F6 if you’re interested.”
  • bjh1: “Recently got an Epic Flash 5 wood (regular, not sub-zero), and I am loving it! Can’t go wrong sticking with the Callaway.”
  • jah7838: “I agree with those mentioning the Baffler and the other various Cobra offerings. F8+ and F9 Tour are really good clubs. I just got the F9 Tour 3 wood, and it’s really easy to elevate with the right shaft. I still have my Baffler that I’m going to mess around with as my 5 wood. I was using it as my 4 wood for last season, and really liked it, but I found a good deal on a like-new F9 Tour 3 wood that I couldn’t pass up. The issue I’m going to have with the Baffler as my 5 wood is that I’ve had my Adams 19* XTD Super Hybrid that it’s going to have to beat out. I’ve had that club for so long now, and I’m going to have a hard time not keeping that one in the bag. It’s not a knock on the Baffler; it’s just how much I trust the XTD.”
  • AG12: “I just was given a PING G410 5W to try, and I think it’s the easiest FW to elevate and just wants to go straight. I think j the Tour 75 shaft that PING offers is a great shaft as well. Worth a look if you’re in the market.”

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