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Forum Thread of the Day: “The conduct of the spectators at Bethpage Black”



Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Pauly567 who expressed his disapproval of the behavior of some spectators at the PGA Championship. Our members have been discussing the conduct of some of the spectators at Bethpage Black, and whether they feel that their behavior is acceptable, as well as what could occur when the course plays host to the 2024 Ryder Cup.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Ashley Schaeffer: “I don’t weigh in on crowd issues often, but this is on another level. I am very confused by the motivation of the New Yahker crowd in displaying these antics. Do the loudmouths think they are being funny? Do they not get enough attention in their personal lives? It’s honestly puzzling how one locale can produce so many incredibly annoying fans, and be somewhat celebrated for it. “Well, that’s just the New York crowd, hehehe” is misguided. We shouldn’t hand out passes for being obnoxious based on location.”
  • LeoLeo99: “Other than the 18th tee, didn’t hear any hooligans out on the course. They made Willett laugh so much serenading him with Danny Boy on the 18th tee that he threw them a ball. All good fun. Phil gave my wife a high 5 and Tony Finau autographed some stuff for wife and me. Almost no mud on course. Perfect weather. Very organized getting people to/ from the course and in the huge merchandise tent. If you go, you’ll do some walking.”
  • Dave230: “There’s no other sport you can get as close to the stars as in golf. If a player hit a ball into the rough, you can watch it happen from two yards behind them; it’s unique. It’s sad how people abuse that privilege. I never like when people compare it to getting abuse from crowds in other sports, it’s done from a distance and in an arena setting, it’s much easier to drown it out. If you’re at work and there’s lots of stuff going on in the office you can work. If there’s one person in your ear talking all the time, you’re going to be distracted.”
  • NoodleSalad: “What I find interesting is that despite all this talk about how atrocious the fans are, not a single pro has complained about them in post-round interviews. I’ve read all of the interviews, and no one has a negative thing to say. Odd isn’t it? Although Spieth credited them with helping him sink a birdie putt on 8: ‘Yeah, the crowd is yelling out that no one has got it to the hole yet and DJ hits it, and it kind of breaks less than it looks. I had a read, plus the crowd is hollering that everyone has left it short, so I just went off a little bit lower line than what DJ had, and luckily I was able to see that. You just try to get the right speed for the green and certainly it’s a bonus when it drops.’

Entire Thread: “The conduct of the spectators at Bethpage Black”



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  1. The weekday

    May 20, 2019 at 10:53 pm

    I personally love it, as long as they don’t patronize the golfer, or yell out mid swing.

  2. cg

    May 20, 2019 at 6:01 pm

    So many douche bags yelling and screaming for some attention. It just perpetuates the stereo typical New Yorker…. a rude A-hole.

  3. MikeyB

    May 20, 2019 at 3:24 pm

    The TV coverage definitely would make someone unfamiliar with golf think the patrons are drunken soccer hooligans. You can hear all kinds of random comments being shouted at players, some being cheered for, and others being booed.
    I honestly think the 16th hole at the WMI with its stadium seating and Roman Colesium vibe started this drunken boorish “It’s in da’ hole!” or “Mashed pah-tay-tah” or “Baba Booey!” scream fest that rivals a convention of tourette’s syndrome patients for random outbursts.
    How many of these people are ‘over refreshed’ is up for debate, and is removing these people a violation of their ‘free speech’ rights?
    I think the PGA needs to start airing commercials about fan decorum and start banning people for life from PGA events to get the point across.

  4. Jay Edward

    May 20, 2019 at 12:29 pm

    “What I find interesting is that despite all this talk about how atrocious the fans are, not a single pro has complained about them in post-round interviews”

    The pro’s don’t complain because they don’t want to be the victim of the drunk, look at me jerks in the future. Ask Monty, or Sergio how it feels to be the pro that fans know they can get to.

    • Scott

      May 20, 2019 at 2:03 pm

      Pretty much the same as complaining about Islam…you will be the bad guy.

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What GolfWRXers are saying about the best Nike driver ever




In our forums, our members have been discussing Nike drivers. WRXer ‘DixieD’ is currently building up a Nike bag and has reached out to fellow members for driver advice, and WRXers have been sharing what they feel is the best Nike driver ever made.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Ger21: “VR Pro LE? I have two I was still playing last year.”
  • mahonie: “The STR8-Fit Tour was one of the best drivers I’ve played. Still have it the garage and take it to the range occasionally…it would possibly still be in the bag if it hadn’t developed a ‘click’ in the head which I cannot fix. Long, straight(ish) and nice sound.”
  • jackr189: “The VR_S is one of the best.”
  • Finaus_Umbrella: “I played the Vapor Fly Pro, and still do on occasion for nostalgia sake. Sound and feel are great, but it demands a good strike.”
  • PowderedToastMan: “I enjoyed the SQ Tour back in the day, the one Tiger used forever. Do I miss it? Not at all, but it was a pretty good club for its time.”

Entire Thread: “Best Nike driver?”

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What GolfWRXers are saying about driving irons for mid-handicappers



In our forums, our members have been discussing whether mid-handicappers can benefit from a driving iron. WRXer ‘jomatty’ says:

“I average about 230 off the tee on good drives. I can get a little more sometimes, but 230 is probably the average. I’m 42 years old and shoot in the mid to low 80’s. I do not get along with fairway woods very well, especially off the tee, and really don’t get enough extra length over my hybrid to consider using it aside from very rare situations on par 5’s (I’ve considered just going from driver to 19-degree hybrid and getting an extra wedge or something).”…

…and wants to know if he would be better served by a driving iron. Our members have been sharing their thoughts and suggestions.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • MtlJeff: “If you can shoot mid 80’s, you probably hit it well enough to hit a bunch of different clubs. Personally, I think hybrids are easier to hit….but some driving irons are quite forgiving. I use a G400 crossover that is very easy to hit and looks more iron-like. Something like that you might like. Be careful with some of them though because they aren’t always super forgiving, so you’d have to hit them first.”
  • HackerD: “G410 crossover is my version of a driving iron, feel like I hit it straighter than a hybrid. Just as easy to hit as a hybrid.”
  • hanginnwangin: “I shoot in the low 80s normally and in the 70s on my really good days. I have probably around the same or similar swing speed as you. I have been hitting my 4 iron off the tee on tight holes, and it’s been working pretty well so far. I hit it about 190-220. I have a 4 hybrid but just can’t hit it as consistently as the 4 iron, and it doesn’t even go much farther. I have a 5 wood which I only use for 220+ yard par 3s or wide-open fairways. Basically, it’s all personal preference and what you do best with. Everyone is going to be different. Try new stuff out and see what works. But if irons are the strongest part of your game (they are for me as well), I would give the 4 iron a shot. You can get a lot of roll out on the tee shots with it,”
  • Hellstrom: “Don’t laugh, but I bought a 17* hybrid with a senior flex shaft at a garage sale for $5, and I can hit it nice and easy and keep it in play without losing any distance. My driver SS is between 105 and 110 usually and swinging this thing feels like swinging a spaghetti noodle, but it works. I don’t have it in the bag all the time, but I do use it for certain courses. I take my 6 iron out and throw that in, so if I struggle with getting the ball off the tee, I just go to that.”

Entire Thread: “Driving iron for a mid-handicapper”

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What GolfWRXers are saying about the best iron sets for a senior



In our forums, our members have been discussing the best iron sets for senior players. WRXer ’emdjunk’ is on the hunt for a new set of clubs for his father and says:

“I am trying to find a new set of irons for my father. He’s about 5’6 and can drive the ball around 200 yards. He has some issues getting his irons up in the air and most of his shots land short. I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for him?

I’d like him to be able to get his irons back up in the air and add some distance. Does anyone have experience with any hybrid iron sets? Are these good for seniors with slower swing speeds? Also, we don’t have access to any club fitters where we live. Is it possible to get fitted online these days?”

And our members have been putting forward their suggestions.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • C6 Snowboarder: “I am a super Senior also – I have found Recoil Graphite shafts for irons do very well.. I put a 65 gr shaft in my 6 and 5 iron – they are now the best they have ever been. I put 80 Gr shafts in the 7 iron, and 95 gr in the 8,9 and PW. For hybrids or fairway – I have found thru lots of experimenting – the Chrome Elements shaft in Epic Flash Fairways do great – especially the Heaven Wood – WOW – what a club for old farts. Driver – the Ck Tensei Blue is doing well for me as well as the ProLaunch Platinum – both great shafts for Old guys.”
  • txgolfer45: “I retooled my entire bag last year from Driver down to wedges. Callaway Epic Flash Driver with 55-gram graphite shaft, Callaway Epic Flash 3, 5 and sometimes 7 fwy with 65-gram graphite shaft shafts, Callaway Big Bertha 4H and 5H with 70-gram graphite shafts and 6 – U wedge with Recoil 65 graphite shafts. I have no problem getting proper ball flight with that set up and have regained yardage as well.”
  • slolane: “I am 67 years old 5ft 7in with two artificial hips, so the swing speed has slowed down a lot. A couple of weeks ago I went to a fitting and hit a lot of the new offerings. I told the fitter I was looking for irons that would work now and 5 years down the road. I ended up getting Ping G710 irons they were very high and forgiving I got them with the senior graphite shafts. Have only been on the course a couple times but so far everything I was looking for. Lots of youtube reviews on the 710s good luck to you and your father.”
  • sean2: “I am a senior, and with stronger lofts, the first iron in my bag is a 7. The 5 and 6 irons in many of today’s set make up are like the old 3 and 4 irons in loft (I have seen more than a few seniors struggle to get those 5 and 6-irons airborne). I haven’t had much luck with hybrids, so I have three fairway woods: 25º, 21º, and a 17º. They go nice and high and land softly. If you get him a set with the stronger lofts, you might want to replace some of the irons at the high end of the bag with hybrids and/or fairway woods.”
  • mootrail: “Take a look at my Bridgestone JGR Forged Hybrid Irons and the current successor, the TOUR B JGR HF1 Irons. The look is unique, and the wide flange design gets the ball up high and long with a hot and forgiving face. The wide sole works surprisingly well in all conditions, including hardpan. The stock steel Zelos 8 shafts in mine are a big reason they launch so easy. Although in an S flex, they have a very soft bend profile that gets the ball up fast without feeling unstable. I’d recommended the lightweight Nippon steels over graphite like the excellent Recoils in my current irons if you’re looking for some extra speed and height.”

Entire Thread: “Best iron sets for a senior”

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