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Forum Thread of the Day: “Most iconic/best cult following driver of all time?”



Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Pert1862 who asks fellow members for their view on which driver is the most iconic and has the best cult following of all time. Our members delve into the driver’s they feel deserve the top spot in this category, with the Cobra L4V proving a popular choice.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • jrshields3: “Adams 9015D was THE cult following driver when I first joined this group. I had 3 with different shaft combos, still have one that I occasionally take out to the range.”
  • pert1862: ” Cobra L4V driver. A legend that can be had for 50 bucks on eBay! My kinda club. I bet she still holds her own with the modern drivers.”
  • Big A HG: “Has to be the Cobra L4V by GolfWRX standards. I rarely saw them in the wild, but I actually gamed two L4V’s because of the thread and finally got kicked out of the bag last year for me.”
  • Krosch3: ” Superquad for me. It still is in my bag to this day. Have tried others, the Ping g400 LST was most recent. My accuracy with the R7 is unmatched and distance wise I can’t see myself getting much longer than I already get out of it.”

Entire Thread: “Most iconic/best cult following driver of all time?”

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  1. Timmy

    May 17, 2019 at 9:06 am

    R7 Superquad. Wish I still had mine. Been scouring ebay for one in good shape recently.

  2. Aztec

    May 11, 2019 at 2:31 pm

    Orlimar HIP 420 Ti.

  3. Mike Brincko

    May 5, 2019 at 10:07 pm

    Tour Edge Exotics Tour Proto, in another thread I stated my Rogue has been replaced by it. IMHO a much better driver for me at least, still a rocket launcher.

  4. Brando

    May 5, 2019 at 5:41 pm

    Lot of Good choices in the comments. I am 39 so my first good driver was the original King Corba 9 degree deep face. Thing was a rocket with a unique sweet spot and Greg Norman and Tiger Used it. The Big Bertha war bird was awesome as well. 975d 905r 983e all very good. Yes Taylor Made 510tp First of the 757 Fujikura shafts and 580xd very good. I can’t seem to kick my 430 sldr with a 757 out of the bag . Tried 10 of the newer drivers can’t find one I like better. Maybe this year I will find something.

    • Scratchscorer

      May 13, 2019 at 9:39 pm

      I have an SLDR with the TP shaft and I cannot imagine replacing it with anything else. Might even purchase a backup of the same model and shaft combo.

  5. Paul Latina

    May 5, 2019 at 5:29 pm

    975D. Best driver I ever hit and hit my longest drives ever with it. I had the EI70 x stiff shaft in it as well. Just beautiful and felt so good, maneuverable which ever way you wanted to go.

  6. Jim Rockford

    May 5, 2019 at 4:00 pm

    Original titanium Great Big Bertha. That driver was the biggest single leap forward I think we will ever see. Maybe the first TM metal wood surpasses but that was just before my time to be able to make comment. Surely the GBB since the early 80’s though. And I hit the GBB with the terrible stock shaft. I can imagine that driver with a modern shaft likely being borderline game-able.

  7. Greg

    May 5, 2019 at 8:37 am

    Anybody ever tested these against the current group? Particularly curious how the Adams 9015 stacks up on spin,forgiveness ect…

  8. Mike

    May 4, 2019 at 9:24 pm

    I see more guys still using a TaylorMade Burner 2007 driver than any other.

  9. Christian Larsson

    May 4, 2019 at 9:16 pm

    R510TP easily

    • TerryTMAC

      May 4, 2019 at 9:25 pm

      Of ALL time?
      I’m going old school. Callaway Big Bertha – War Bird.
      Best driver name too.

  10. XLS CULT

    May 4, 2019 at 6:47 pm

    I’m going Cleveland Hi Bore XLS as well. Set up perfect, sounded nice, hit it nice distances and was a SERIOUS fairway finder. Why has Cleveland not made an adjustable version. I know people who still bag this driver…. nothing better.

    • Scratchscorer

      May 13, 2019 at 9:41 pm

      Agree with everything except the sound. That thing sounded atrocious lmao.

  11. Greg Ellis

    May 4, 2019 at 5:28 pm

    Come on guy. Us old folks played persimmon. 1969 persimmon adapted with a very early adila graphite shaft and a “gamma fire” glass insert.

  12. Dan Walker

    May 4, 2019 at 4:05 pm

    Nike Vapor Pro the blue and black version

    • Max R

      May 10, 2019 at 11:46 am

      “Supposedly” the best Nike driver ever built was the SQ2.

    • Timmy

      May 17, 2019 at 9:09 am

      Never owned one but tried and was very good. I had both red coverts. But the blue was just too fugly for 99% of buyers. RIP Nike golf equip.

  13. Chris G

    May 4, 2019 at 3:13 pm

    Titleist 905S!

  14. John Agnew

    May 4, 2019 at 2:58 pm

    Taylormade 580 XD …legal version…too easy to hit high and deep.

  15. Jim

    May 4, 2019 at 2:25 pm

    2016 Taylormade M2 will go down as the best driver ever made

  16. 15th Club

    May 4, 2019 at 2:07 pm

    There actually is a rather clear answer that none of you are in thinking about.

    Toward the end of the persimmon driver era, top players and collectors were madly buying up prime specimens of the MacGregor tour drivers from the late ‘50’s and early ‘60’s. The king was the Tommy Armour 693T, designed by Toney Penna. They sold, if you could find one, for upwards of a thousand dollars. A $1500 driver in 1977 would be more than $6000 in today’s dollars. The market was so frenzied that gold magazines were doing stories about it which only drove prices higher.

    • 15th Club

      May 4, 2019 at 2:10 pm

      Sorry “golf” magazines not “gold”. But still the greatest bubble market in the history of golf equipment.

      • Pelling

        May 4, 2019 at 9:49 pm

        I played Toney Penna persimmon (driver, 3 wood, 4 wood, 5 wood) throughout the 1980’s-1990’s. Have them still, but haven’t hit in about 20 years. Don’t recall paying that much, but Penna’s were the best!!

    • Jim

      May 4, 2019 at 6:21 pm

      You’re absolutely correct. Sad thing is that most of today’s golfers are 20-30 something and don’t know any history at all, only current “events”.

      • Nack Jicklaus

        May 19, 2019 at 8:05 am

        Enlighten us all on the details of mashies and niblicks then. Tell us about teeing up gutta percha on a mound of sand. What is the best hickory shaft? Everyone knows their own time period best, including you.

  17. chad bilkins

    May 4, 2019 at 1:39 pm

    Superquad is money. I bought a new head on ebay and stuck an oban kyoshi white shaft in there. Destroyed the rogue on the launch monitor last year

  18. bob carroll

    May 4, 2019 at 12:54 pm

    PING G2

    • JC

      Jun 7, 2019 at 11:08 pm

      Finally, someone else sees the light! I game one currently, can’t find anything that can beat it, most underrated driver of the mid-2000s IMO.

  19. Regis

    May 4, 2019 at 12:39 pm

    R7 limited. Box set came with 3 shafts. Low Medium and high flight. All good shafts. Took adjustability to the max. Way before it’s time

  20. Walt

    May 4, 2019 at 12:25 pm

    My favorite was the Taylormade with a bubble shaft. I still have it and although I don’t currently use it I am constantly tempted to bring it back into play

  21. Fred schubert

    May 4, 2019 at 12:22 pm

    Powerbilt citition

  22. MarioB

    May 4, 2019 at 11:50 am

    Looks like no one knows the meaning of iconic. Or we would get interesting answers like McGregor super eye o magic, Powerbilt Citation, Woods Bros All American, Taylormade Burner, Callaway Big Bertha, Titleist 975D etc…

  23. Bryan

    May 4, 2019 at 9:07 am

    The 460 Cleveland Launchers were super popular back in the college days.

  24. Richard Douglas

    May 3, 2019 at 4:14 pm

    Almost all of the comments are about drivers that are iterations of what changed it all. I suggest going back to these three that, in order and together, changed drivers forever:

    1. Taylormade Pittsburgh Persimmon. The club that popularized metal drivers.
    2. Callaway Big Bertha. The club that started oversize metal drivers.
    3. Callaway Great Big Bertha. The club that popularized titanium.

    Everything else comes from the genesis created by these three clubs. Every development since is an incremental change, but those clubs are the foundation.

    • Harry H Adam

      May 4, 2019 at 12:01 pm

      Spot on.

    • Dan mead

      May 4, 2019 at 1:53 pm

      This is the answer. Probably need to consider ping eye 2 driver which was really the first oversize driver in its time. Big bertha and great big bertha where ahead of their time and the change from getting a new driver was real back then. These days the next model does next to nothing

      • Chris

        May 4, 2019 at 7:52 pm

        Nailed it. I remember when the BB, Great BB (and then Biggest BB) came out thinking, “holy crap, how much bigger can they possibly go?” They definitely changed the game.

        Of the more “recent” (I.e 460cc era) drivers, I loved the Bridgestone J33r. Such a clean, simple look and solid feel off the club face.

    • Scott

      May 4, 2019 at 8:54 pm

      Yes. My thoughts exactly

    • Richard Chon

      May 5, 2019 at 12:50 pm

      Shoot. I didn’t even play golf when I was younger, but I remember how exicted my hockey teammates were about the GBB.

  25. jgpl001

    May 3, 2019 at 1:18 pm

    905R all day long
    983K out of the dead middle was a serious driver too

  26. Brian

    May 3, 2019 at 9:09 am

    I do have a soft spot for the L4V. Back in those days I had just started spending time on the forum and I definitely got caught up in the hype (which was very real, by the way). Threw a Protopype in it and everything. If we’re being honest though, going back a tad further, the Titleist 975D is the standard by which all other “cult classics” are measured.

  27. Dennis Sweeney

    May 3, 2019 at 8:00 am

    07 Burner TP, still have one and still use it quite often.

  28. Dave S

    May 3, 2019 at 12:54 am

    905R, see a lot on the board. The R 460 head that went straight. Titleist put enough spin in there to fix what TM and Cally couldn’t.

  29. The dude

    May 2, 2019 at 10:13 pm

    TM Superfast TP….if we are being honest (for good players)

  30. Brandon

    May 2, 2019 at 8:56 pm

    Cobra LTD pro, Cleveland Hibore XLS.

  31. JP

    May 2, 2019 at 6:50 pm

    905R should be at the top of that list.
    Of course the Big Bertha should be hailed for its greatness and trailblazing ways, but it didn’t have the following the 905R did.

  32. Nack Jicklaus

    May 2, 2019 at 6:38 pm

    The only golf club name that I have EVER heard non-golfers know of or talk about is the Big Bertha. I would say that somewhat indicates the reach and status of that club during its time and way after.

  33. S

    May 2, 2019 at 3:56 pm

    SLDR, of course! The best driver ever made, and what started it all

  34. Tim Dennis

    May 2, 2019 at 2:38 pm

    905R and 910D3, M2 would be there with a little more consistent hit. Just too erratic for the weekend golfer. 905R was long and straight.

  35. Mike Rohmann

    May 2, 2019 at 1:54 pm

    R7 SuperQuad especially the 282 version. Slightly different hosel I think. I have one that is almost brand new.

    • Adam

      May 2, 2019 at 4:54 pm

      back in highschool when I was on the golf team the superquads were badass

  36. Alec

    May 2, 2019 at 1:54 pm

    Cobra LTD is probably themost recent Cult Driver

  37. Alex

    May 2, 2019 at 12:34 pm

    905r and R7 superquad hands down. Epic and M2 will be in this thread in 5 years.

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Forum Thread of the Day: “Oldest club in the bag that you use regularly?”



Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from 14max who asks WRXers what’s the oldest club in the bag that they regularly use. Our members list the clubs that have been playing the longest and their reasons why – with trust often playing a significant role behind their decision.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • el_rousso: “I’m still regularly playing an old (about 25+ years old) American Open 56* wedge, the grooves on it are likely too worn to be of any use but it’s still pretty much the club I trust the most around the greens, the rest of my bag is around 2005ish (irons) or 2011ish (woods and other wedges), but I recently pulled the trigger on a driver upgrade…”
  • SecondandGoal: “Odyssey White Steel Tri-Ball SRT. Made in 2007, got it for $25 on Craigslist about 4 years ago. I’ve changed every other club in the bag at least twice since then. Going to be hard-pressed to get this out of the bag.”
  • lefty1978: “I don’t always bag this club anymore. But I have a 17° Controller driving iron from around 1999. I like it because it hits low running bullets.”
  • James the Hogan Fan: “Putter- 65ish years old, Irons from 2003, Woods from 2008, Driver from 2014, Wedges from 2016, but, one from 2002. Quite the mix I’d say.”
  • ChipNRun: “A few years ago, it was a Ping Pal putter from circa 1973. I sent Ping a photo of the clubhead for verification: they said it was legit, they just couldn’t tell what batch it came from due to primitive data markings. Until about a year ago, I played Callaway X20 Tours (2008 origin); CPreO sold me a display set in 2011. Right now, the Tour Edge XRail 7W (2012) – and sometimes its brother 4W – hold the record.”

Entire Thread: “Oldest club in the bag that you use regularly?”

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2020 Odyssey Golf launches new Bird of Prey and Stroke Lab Ten putters



Odyssey Golf is taking Stroke Lab technology and innovation further with the release of the all-new Stroke Lab 10 putters along with the introduction of the Bird of Prey putter for 2019 and 2020.

Odyssey Stroke Lab Ten Bird of prey putters golf 2020

2020 Odyssey Bird of Prey, Stroke Lab Ten putters: The details

To say Odyssey Stroke Lab putters, along with the revolutionary mass-shifting Stroke Lab shaft, have been a success both on tour and with regular golfers would be a huge understatement. On the professional side—since their introduction at the beginning of 2019 as a prototype product, Stroke Lab putters have become the number one putter on all tours and won more professional tournaments (65 to be exact) than any other brand on all tours combined.

Now, Odyssey’s General Manager Sean Toulon and his design team are looking to advance designs again with what many would call familiar shapes but with unconventional advantages.

Odyssey Stroke lab ten putter golf 2020

First off, we have the Stroke Lab Ten. And, yes, even Sean Toulon himself is willing to admit it shares similarities to a particular arachnid-style putter that he helped originally design at another OEM many years ago. But, as a modern equipment historian, I believe it’s important to point out that as much as the “arachnid” style has been popular for quite some time.

There was another putter that predates it (released in 2005), which offered an extremely high MOI design but without the catchy name: the Ping UG-LE. The UG-LE pushed mass way back and to the corners of the head to create (at the time) the highest MOI putter on the market.

But here’s the thing: Putters and material design have come a long way since the introduction of the UG-LE and the original arachnid designs, and Odyssey is here to prove golfers just how much better with the Stroke Lab Ten.

The Stroke Lab Ten’s frame is made from ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene…don’t worry, I had to look it up too). Here’s a further explanation

“It is an amorphous polymer comprised of three monomers, acrylonitrile, butadiene and styrene. ABS is most commonly polymerize through the emulsification process or the expert art of combining multiple products that don’t typically combine into a single product. When the three monomers are combined, the acrylonitrile develops a polar attraction with the other two components, resulting in a tough and highly durable finished product. The different amounts of each monomer can be added to the process to further vary the finished product. The versatility of ABS plastic properties contributes largely to its popularity across several industry sectors.” (Thanks, Adreco plastics)

According to Sean Toulon, what the ABS material allows is maximum distribution of metal (heavy) mass parts to the back and extreme perimeter of the putter to blow past other putters’ MOI (Moment of Inertia: a measurement of forgiveness) but also in sound and feel.

“The sound and feel of this putter is special (thanks to the material advantage of ABS)”  Sean Toulon, Odyssey Putters General Manager

Beyond just the shape of the putter, the sole has been meticulously crafted to help the head aligned square when grounded towards the target in the playing position. Sean continues

“We got these putters to the point where ( with the alignment on top ) they have become point and shoot” 

There truly is a lot going on to make sure these putters do everything they can to help both regular golfers and touring professionals align properly and get the best possible result when putts are not hit absolutely perfect.

The Stroke Lab Advantage

Considering the MOI of these designs, you would think that the highest of high handicappers would be the target market, but in that assumption, you couldn’t be more incorrect. The designs of both the Stroke Lab Ten and the Bird of Prey were entirely driven by the tour and player desire to get every last bit of performance out of their putting games.

These putters will all come stock with the Stroke Lab shaft, which pulls mass from the shaft and redistributes it under the grip and into the head for even greater stabilization. Odyssey has proven that the shaft alone can help stroke consistency across the board, and the most notable stat is the 13 percent increase in face angle delivery at impact. This increases the make putt percentage, which when you think of a round of golf, equates to strokes saved.

If there is one more thing Odyssey knows about putters, it’s roll and inserts. With the new Stroke Lab Ten and Bird of Prey designs, the company is using an all-new Microhinge Star insert to increase the sound for better player feedback. Generally, inserts are used to decrease the sound, but in the case of the New Microhinge Star, engineers at Odyssey wanted to recreate more of the original sound and feel of the White Hot putter but with the added benefit of the Microhinge to increase forward roll.

Odyssey Stroke Lab Putter Insert roll Ten Bird of prey

This new Microhinge Star insert improves the correlation between the sound and expected distance a player will hit the ball—firmer means further. This is just another step in the design process put in place to help players of all abilities putt with greater consistency since without audible feedback, all players will have a more difficult time controlling distance.

The new Stroke Lab Ten and Bird of Prey putters will be available starting November 1. For more information check out


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2020 Cobra Golf T-Rail iron hybrid set



Cobra Golf T-RAIL

New for 2020, the Cobra Golf T-Rail (Transitional Rail) super game improvement iron—the company’s first all hollow iron hybrid set.

Cobra T Rail irons fuse a hollow, hybrid shape with an iron face and topline, with the iron-hybrid design aiming to provide golfers with the perfect blend of distance, forgiveness, and accuracy.

According to the company, the hollow body construction creates a lower, deeper CG than traditional cavity-back iron designs. The lower, deeper CG aims to aid golfers in getting the ball in the air and on line easier than conventional cavity-back irons.

Speaking on the new T-Rail irons, Tom Olsavsky, VP of R&D, Cobra Golf, stated

“T-Rail irons make it easy for beginners and golfers who have lost some distance and control to gain the confidence needed to play better and have more fun. Players who need max forgiveness and are looking for more distance will be amazed at how far and straight they hit these, even being able to get them airborne from tough lies.”

The irons feature the brand’s Baffler Rails technology which seeks to provide players with more speed and stability out of every lie through its turf interaction.

The irons also contain a high-strength, forged steel face designed with E9 technology, which includes a thin pocket from heel to toe which is intended to offer maximum ball speed and forgiveness on off-center hits.

Cobra Golf T-RAIL

The new additions from Cobra arrive in a hollow, iron-hybrid construction in the 5-PW with a 4-hybrid to make a 7-piece set. The irons, which come in a black/blue colorway for men and black/lilac colorway for women, come equipped with Cobra Ultralite 50g graphite shafts (Stiff, Regular and Lite) and Cobra Lamkin REL midsize grips.

Both the Men’s and Women’s T-Rail sets will be available beginning November 1, 2019, and cost $899.

Cobra Golf T-RAIL





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