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Forum Thread of the Day: “Are there any old-school drivers that can keep up with today’s models?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from theothertwo, who asks fellow GolfWRX members if they feel that there is an old-school driver that can keep up with today’s models. Our members have been giving their views on the subject, with many believing that there are plenty of older models that can still enhance your game.

Here are a few posts from the thread but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • DixieD: “510tp, J33r, FT Tour. Have all these in my collection, and they still make it into my bag and don’t lose any distance to my 917. I’d say the J33r may be slightly shorter, but we are talking 5 yards on good hits with my 105 swing speed. The feel of them is unmatched by today’s offerings.”
  • seleezyt: “Ping g15. I’m sure you could go back even more to g10 and rapture, but the g15 was just as long in a recent test for me. Hit against ts2 and g400 and m3.”
  • agolf1: “Titleist 983E if your strike is very good. Titleist 910D2 if you want something that resembles today’s forgiveness. I played with an old 983E once this year. It is great when you catch it right but absolutely horrible if you miss at all (both loss of ball speed and direction).”
  • RobS14526: “Ping G2/5/10 are still fantastic. I still think the longest combo I’ve ever had was an Orlimar HipTi 420 with an early Taylormade Mitsubishi Tour shaft. Russian titanium baby!”

Entire Thread: “Are there any old-school drivers that can keep up with today’s models?”

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  1. Sam

    Jan 16, 2019 at 4:27 pm

    We have to keep in mind as well that club fitting has really changed things. I have been fitting people for 15 years and seen how drastic of a change the right shaft and head combo can make. If you require a custom club, I could put pretty much any driver in your hands and it would wouldn’t change much. new drivers would be more forgiving and probably 5+ yards longer. The biggest I’ve seen though is reducing the spin and optimizing ball flight. I used to love the 983k and erc fusion heads for their shape and overall playability. I compared my 983k from over 10 years ago to my Custom Fit Epic Subzero and its on average about 34 yards of difference. Still, straightest driver I’ve hit to this day is the Callaway C4 haha. sounded like a marshmallow and the distance was terrible but man it the ball only flew straight.

  2. Tom

    Jan 8, 2019 at 5:00 pm

    Yes, as long as they don’t suffer metal fatigue, older models are the same as what is being touted as “better” designs of today. The USGA rules mandate that clubs CANNOT exceed defined performance standards, thus, performance cannot be improved….
    These performance standards set by the USGA have been in place for the past several years… if not longer.

  3. Michael

    Dec 21, 2018 at 5:23 pm

    Still using the TM Burner Superfast TP. Haven’t found anything better.

    • Art Williams

      Dec 22, 2018 at 2:37 pm

      Was playing my 2013 Callaway Razr Fit Extreme for a few years with mixed results. Went back this past fall to my 2008 Hyper X. Was just as long but it felt better and sounded better. Will stick to it for now. Don’t remember why I left it. Couldn’t resist the marketing I guess.

  4. Steve Cantwell

    Dec 21, 2018 at 3:14 pm

    It’s the Christmas season. New clubs sure would look nice under the tree. However, as good as that sounds, I sure love my R7 TP irons as well as my Burner driver and 3 woid. While my clubs are more than 10 years old, and I have tinkered with newer products over the years, I always find myself coming back to this trusted set up. New clubs? No thank you! Maybe next year…

  5. TONEY P

    Dec 21, 2018 at 3:09 pm

    The 983K was one of the best drivers made for a good golfer. The R 7 superquad is one of the straightest drivers ever built.

  6. Robert

    Dec 21, 2018 at 1:47 pm

    Is Fred Couples still using a Taylormade Sldr? I remember something on TV this past year where he did not want to bother with another driver fitting. Believe Sei Young Kim set the LPGA scoring record this past year in Wisconsin using a Sldr and Mizuno MP18-SC irons.

  7. Dennis

    Dec 20, 2018 at 11:37 am

    Played yesterday with my 07 Burner TP and my new TS3 and virtually no difference in distance.I actually like the feel of the Burner better.

    • Vince

      Dec 21, 2018 at 11:27 am

      I played the last 2 years with a Callaway Hawkeye v f t titanium
      9 degree and it is great
      It is just 10-15yards shorter than new models but
      I can hit it straight as a arrow and it is light

  8. Richard Douglas

    Dec 20, 2018 at 2:20 am

    I haven’t played a 3-wood since I put the TM SLDR Mini-Driver in the bag. It functions like a second, slightly shorter driver that can still be hit off the deck. I use it for all tight drives; it’s probably 20 yards longer than my old 3-wood.

  9. ogo

    Dec 19, 2018 at 6:33 pm

    The design of the driver clubhead represents ~10% of the driver’s performance. 90% is the shaft… without doubt…. and anybody who thinks differently is just a gullible gearhead !

    • Brad

      Dec 19, 2018 at 9:10 pm

      This is easily the silliest thing I’ve read in recent memory.

    • Gunter Eisenberg

      Dec 19, 2018 at 10:43 pm

      I totally agree. I stuck a $500 exotic shaft into my 1983 Titleist Tour Model Persimmon Driver and I outdrove a buddy of mine with his M4 with similar swing speed.

  10. Tom

    Dec 19, 2018 at 2:03 pm

    Of course, all this stuff is the same over the last 6-8 years, just repackaged and marketed as something better, USGA rules dictate the level of potential product innovation, not manufacturers….Sellers be Sellin!

    Upgrade your graphite wood shafts and re-grip, that’s all you need to spend money on..

  11. David Sims

    Dec 19, 2018 at 12:21 pm

    Titleist 905R, still as straight and long as anything out there. Much straighter and right there with all my buddies M1,M4’s and Callys.

    • TONEY P

      Dec 21, 2018 at 3:02 pm

      That 905R is great driver.

      • Brian S.

        Jan 8, 2019 at 4:20 pm

        Yep, still have mine too with the Proforce Shaft. Put a 910D3 in play this past year (yes, i know that is still old school, LOL), but it was an upgrade to the 905. I can honestly say, i havent seen much difference. The old girl is still standing by and might end up back in the bag this year.. We’ll see!

  12. Kyle R

    Dec 19, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    Taylormade r7 Superquad for me is the club I have fell in love with. I have tried numerous drivers to upgrade over the years, However the fairway finding ability of the R7 Superquad can not be matched for me. I even picked up a backup one to keep on hand. Distance wise I may leave 10 or so yards on the table, however I still average 280-290 with the R7 at 110-115mph Driver speed, plenty long.

    • chad

      Dec 19, 2018 at 12:20 pm

      i second the r7 superquad. best driver ever made. Bought a like new head off ebay and i put an oban kiyoshi white stiff shaft in. The thing cant miss a fairway. i dont care if i give up 10 yards when you’re 40 yards right in the weeds and im in the fairway

    • Regis

      Dec 21, 2018 at 12:57 pm

      Yeh I’ve kept mine as well. Also the R9 Super Tri. I never spent the time to experiment by fitting them with different high end shafts but I will some day. Maybe this weekend

    • Dan Malloy

      Dec 21, 2018 at 1:02 pm

      Last I saw Tom Lehman was still using an R-7 superquad

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Steve Stricker WITB 2024 (April)

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Driver: Titleist TSR3 (9 degrees, C4 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Fujikura Motore Speeder VC 7.2 X

3-wood: Titleist 915F (13.5 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro White 80 TX

Hybrid: Titleist 816 H1 (17 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Motore Speeder VC 9.2 X

Irons: Titleist T200 (3, 4), Titleist T100 (5-9)
Shafts: Project X 6.5

Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM8 (46-10F @55), Titleist Vokey SM10 (54-10S @53), Titleist Vokey SM4 (60 @59)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold X100 w/Sensicore

Putter: Odyssey White Hot No. 2

Ball: Titleist Pro V1x

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Grip Rite

Check out more in-hand photos of Steve Stricker’s clubs here.

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  • Alex Fitzpatrick what’s in the bag accurate as of the Zurich Classic. 

Driver: Ping G430 LST (10.5 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 6 X

3-wood: TaylorMade Qi10 (15 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus TR Black 7 X

Hybrid: Ping G430 (19 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black HB 10 TX

Irons: Ping iCrossover (2), Titleist T100 (4-PW)
Shafts: Fujikura Ventus Black HB 9 TX (2), Nippon N.S. Pro Modus 3 Tour 120 X (4-9)

Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (50-12F, 56-12D, 60-08M)
Shafts: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus 3 Tour 120 X

Putter: Bettinardi SS16 Dass

Grips: Golf Pride MCC

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What’s the perfect mini-driver/shaft combo? – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been discussing Mini-Drivers and accompanying shafts. WRXer ‘JamesFisher1990’ is about to purchase a BRNR Mini and is torn on what shaft weight to use, and our members have been sharing their thoughts and set ups in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • PARETO: “New BRNR at 13.5. Took it over to TXG (Club Champ but TXG will always rule) in Calgary for a fit. Took the head down to 12, stuck in a Graphite Design AD at 3 wood length and 60g. Presto- numbers that rivaled my G430Max but with waaaaay tighter dispersion. Win.”
  • driveandputtmachine: “Still playing a MIni 300.  The head was only 208, so I ordered a heavier weight and play it at 3 wood length.  I am playing a Ventus Red 70.   I play 70 grams in my fairways.  I use it mainly to hit draws off the tee.  When I combine me, a driver, and trying to hit a draw it does not work out well most of the time.  So the MIni is for that. As an aside, I have not hit the newest BRNR, but the previous model wasn’t great off the deck.  The 300 Mini is very good off the deck.”
  • JAM01: “Ok, just put the BRNR in the bag along side a QI10 max and a QI10 3 wood. A load of top end redundancy. But, I have several holes at my two home courses where the flight and accuracy of the mini driver helps immensely. Mine is stock Proforce 65 at 13.5, I could see a heavier shaft, but to normal flex, as a nice alternative.”

Entire Thread: “What’s the perfect Mini-Driver/Shaft combo? – GolfWRXers discuss”

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