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2 GolfWRXers put 4 Miura iron models to TrackMan test

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Equipment expert Brian Knudson and WRXer Jackson Elliott had a chance to put four Miura iron models to the test.

See their thoughts on the Miura club testing below, as well as their TrackMan data. For all heads, Knudson used the Project X 6.0, and Jackson used the Ping AWT 2.0. Knudson is an 8.8 handicap, and Jackson is a 16. All clubs were 6-irons.

MC-501

 

BN: I love the look of blades, but know they don’t fit my skill level. These looked great with a small footprint, topline, and squared off toe. The back “muscle” has a great look that grabs your attention. The feel of the 501 is Miura soft and very solid. Responsiveness is phenomenal, you can really tell where on the face you made contact. For some reason this was the iron I had the tightest dispersion with, we couldn’t figure out what made that happen!

JE: I thought the 501s looked pretty good, they seemed a little boxier than I’m used to, but the top-down view was by no means a turn-off. The ball exploded off the head when I managed to find center face, but I hit more bad shots than good. Definitely a far cry in terms of forgiveness compared to my game improvement irons, but the extra distance I gained almost makes me think the decreased accuracy is worth it.

IC-601

BN: This is the iron that I was not sure of its identity. It is overall a small profile but has a good amount off offset. Ball speed was great and it might have been the longest of the bunch. I was surprised that the feel was so soft as most hollow designs have a bit of clickiness to them. These were the longest for me by a slight margin and were one of the higher launching heads.

JE: The top ridge of the head looked a little too thick and boxy to me. It was a little distracting at first, but I got used to it after a few swings. I thought the club performed very well. The carry was longer than I was expecting, and I was able to put it near the middle fairway more times than not. In terms of performance, I think this would be the most likely to find its way into my bag.

CB 1008

BN: I have hit these irons previously and they are a great feeling iron. I was very impressed with how soft these irons are, maybe even softer than the MC-501. These irons are great looking as well with the sharper toe and slightly larger footprint than the MC-501. These didn’t blow me away with wild distance or ballspeed numbers, but that isn’t what they were intended for. They are just a really good players iron. The only negative thing I could say would be that they mute a little too much and you have a harder time deciphering where you made contact on the face.

JE: I thought both the 1008 and 2008 looked great, and I’d willingly put either set in my bag right now. I had a very hard time feeling any major differences between the two, but both clubs felt good in my hands. The 2008s seemed to be a bit more forgiving when it came to mishits, and the trackman numbers tended to corroborate that. My carry numbers for both clubs were nearly identical, but a few yards longer than I expected them to be.

CB 2008

BN: These are the big brother to the CB-1008 and they have a slightly more rounded shape. I actually like a slightly more rounded toe, so these fit my eye well. Upon the first impact you can tell these have way more power than the 1008, ball feels like it flies off the face. Forgiveness is far better allowing much better numbers on off center hits. Feel is a slight bit lacking, but for a club of its design really good.

JE: (See previous response)

Dispersion plots, trajectories

Knudson’s dispersion

Knudson’s trajectory

Elliot’s dispersion

Eliot’s trajectory

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39 Comments

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  1. Chris Hansen

    Jan 4, 2019 at 11:16 am

    I always found that my Miuras tour blades had way too much spin.. They are beautiful clubs, with a sweet feel. I played their tour blades for two seasons.

  2. Sean

    Dec 21, 2018 at 9:47 am

    Think it would be helpful to look at each players Dynamic loft. This will explain smash factor difference, launch difference, and spin difference.

    Furthermore, can anyone confirm the loft of the MC-501 that was tested? Standard is 30*

  3. gticlay

    Dec 21, 2018 at 3:29 am

    I’m still gaming a set of i3 blades, which I hit long and high, or low, or whatever. I really like them. But I lust after a set of Miura irons. The more simple Miura are all so nice looking I have a tough time knowing which ones I would want. I think I would want a set of the CB-1008 but to me it’s really disappointing they don’t have the cool Miura logo like the MC-501’s do so I’d want to order my set with that on them instead of the MG logo (yuck!). Also, do you have any idea what the bounce is? I would expect a master iron head builder would have a couple of different forgings with different bounce so they can build a set with more loft but still the right bounce – any idea how that works? It also looks like the clubs might be a little upright for both testers – what do you think Bryan and Jackson – were the “lefts” a product of that and were you hitting off mats or a grass range? Honestly, I don’t think there is a chance at all I’ll ever get a set, but it’s fun to dream about them!

    • Real

      Dec 24, 2018 at 4:48 pm

      The M logo Miura is actually geared for the foreign market for easy one-word brand identification, and the MG logo Miura Giken are the real Japanese ones that you should properly lust after

  4. Martin Looth Or King

    Dec 21, 2018 at 1:56 am

    Looks like a 1996 ‘Zuno T-Zoid.

  5. rex235

    Dec 20, 2018 at 3:17 am

    Are all of these Miura iron models RH Only?

    Just checking.

  6. Jack

    Dec 19, 2018 at 10:05 pm

    Jackson hits stingers all day it seems. Very low launch for a 6 iron, and also really good distance too.

  7. JB

    Dec 19, 2018 at 8:19 pm

    Miura feel is second to none! They don’t always look good in trackman numbers, but they certainly look good, feel unbelievable and perform on the golf course.

    • smz

      Dec 19, 2018 at 8:56 pm

      yes yees yeeees… i could fall in love with the mc-501’s… they are sooo beautiful i would be proud to bag them in my WITB of performance clubs on the golf course….

  8. Barrett Holman

    Dec 19, 2018 at 4:27 pm

    I like the honesty here – would have been easy to fanboy the feel here. I’ve never hit a set, but nice to hear that they might not be the second coming. Good anecdotes. Would like to know which set would go in either persons bag in the end.

  9. Kyle

    Dec 19, 2018 at 2:40 pm

    Is the TM setup/aligned correctly or are both testers playing a decent hook?

  10. Tom

    Dec 19, 2018 at 2:20 pm

    WOW!! These clubs are so much better that anything else ever made!! Uncle Rico says he will bet he can hit the 5 iron over them there mountains!!!

    Hahaha all irons are the same, even “open models” you can get from the foundries….there is nothing new!! same ole same ole repackaged so Sellers can Sell em!

    • Crazy About Golf

      Dec 19, 2018 at 3:30 pm

      If only Uncle Rico had those clubs back in ’82……he’d have gone pro, made millions of dollars.

    • steve

      Dec 19, 2018 at 3:44 pm

      I am guessing that you have never hit these…

    • EC3

      Dec 20, 2018 at 8:16 am

      Hmmm…the MC-501’s look a LOT like my Taylormade TP MB’s from way back when. Still playing them and still loving them. Miura may be on to something here.

      I guess it’s true that the more things change, the more they stay the same.

  11. Graham

    Dec 19, 2018 at 12:59 pm

    What are the lofts of each 6-iron?

  12. CoopScoop12

    Dec 19, 2018 at 12:52 pm

    Just a small editing comment. Knudson would be BK not BN. Sorry for being picky but I would want to be aware.

  13. ogo

    Dec 19, 2018 at 12:30 pm

    The difference in these irons is the location of the CofG… and the rest is cosmetic differences. Identical zinc die-cast models would have done just as well… except for the ego conflict.

    • MP-4

      Dec 19, 2018 at 1:09 pm

      Baloney.
      They are all hand made and designed by a master.
      More like the ogo conflict.

      Miura – The Quest for the Perfect Golf Club | Adventures in Golf Season 3
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rGIqMToeFg

      • smz

        Dec 19, 2018 at 9:00 pm

        … and you deserve the perfect clubs for your WITB arsenal of potent weapons… and scare the begeezus out of your playing buddies…. hand made clubs that reek of the masters artistry and admiration…

        • MP-4

          Dec 20, 2018 at 5:35 pm

          Have some respect.
          It’s about supporting an artist and craftsman who has dedicated his life to building quality irons.
          He has differentiated his products with the spin welded hosel, forging process, beautiful designs, etc.
          What is the benefit of disparaging him by equating what Miura produces with any old cheap crap off of the shelf? A TV dinner is not the same thing as a home cooked meal even though you could argue they have the same calories, fat, carbs, etc. Golf is about fun and appreciation, not ego trips and criticism.
          We need more Mr. Miuras.

          • Dave

            Dec 21, 2018 at 9:44 am

            What a great comment. Could not say it better.

          • Benny

            Dec 21, 2018 at 10:12 am

            I am with MP-4. Buy and play what you like.. i am not a fan of Miura but to each their own. Enough of the crying and yammering about yourselves. You all act like you discovered gold with your facts and useless information. Tis was a nice article and good comments on what these players thought. Thank you Wrx

    • Funkaholic

      Dec 19, 2018 at 2:19 pm

      Why are idiots always defending their cast clubs with this nonsense? If you like your clubs just say that, you sound insecure.

  14. Dan

    Dec 19, 2018 at 12:04 pm

    Most noticeable part of article: Jackson’s spin numbers are completely unplayable! Averaging nearly 60 feet of roll with a six iron?

    • Crazy About Golf

      Dec 19, 2018 at 3:28 pm

      Was just thinking that. Another thing that jumps out is that JE has lower swing speed than BN, yet BN’s ball speed is higher and launch is much lower. One could attribute that to better smash factor (>1.4 as shown on the chart); however, I find it hard to believe that a 16 handicap is striking the ball that much better than an 8.8…..moreover, guys on the PGA Tour don’t even achieve a smash factor that high on a 6-iron. Something is off…..that or BN was hitting something longer than a 6 iron.

      • Crazy About Golf

        Dec 19, 2018 at 3:34 pm

        Sorry…..just realized I mangled that whole thing. Should have been:

        JE has lower swing speed than BN, yet JE’s ball speed is higher and launch is much lower. One could attribute that to better smash factor (>1.4 as shown on the chart) which would produce longer distance; however, I find it hard to believe that a 16 handicap is striking the ball that much better than an 8.8…..moreover, guys on the PGA Tour don’t even achieve a smash factor that high on a 6-iron. Something is off…..that or JE was hitting something longer than a 6 iron.

        • Skip

          Dec 19, 2018 at 4:32 pm

          It’s possible that the 8 hdcp is in a less ideal impact position, possibly a little scoopy, hence the higher launch and lower smash. Maybe the 16 compresses it a little better just isn’t as good a player.

        • Kyle

          Dec 19, 2018 at 4:51 pm

          I don’t think hes striking it better, I think he’s hitting a consistent low hooded hook, hence the lower peak height, lower spin, higher smash, and sometimes ending up 30yrds+ left

          • Brandon

            Dec 19, 2018 at 10:29 pm

            I’d tend to agree with Kyle. That looks like the flight of a 6 iron I try to hit into the wind.

          • Thomas A

            Dec 20, 2018 at 10:57 am

            Just further proves that a lesson will do him better than expensive clubs.

  15. A. Commoner

    Dec 19, 2018 at 11:06 am

    Nicely written article. Well stated observations in meaningful language. With that said, I wish I had all models cited!

  16. Bogeypro

    Dec 19, 2018 at 10:31 am

    Dispersion was surprisingly tight between all of them. It’s the Indian not the arrow.

    Those cb look like mp18 sc.

    • Skip

      Dec 19, 2018 at 4:30 pm

      Except the CB1008’s came out way before MP18.

  17. Kyle

    Dec 19, 2018 at 9:27 am

    Would be nice to know which actual club they hit for the trackman numbers (looks like maybe 7i for Kudson and 5i for Jackson?) and compare it to what they’re currently gaming. That said, I’m pretty sure Miura is the reason that didn’t happen.

    • Ben Alberstadt

      Dec 19, 2018 at 10:44 am

      6-iron, both. Meant to include that in the article. It’s been adjusted. Thanks, Kyle.

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Talking with Alonzo Guess of Sunfish…and a look at the insane headcover they made GolfWRX

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We last talked with Alonzo Guess of Sunfish in November of 2017 after the Nashville-based company launched a custom headcover and accessory builder on its website.

The company has been producing custom headcovers, yardage books, and other accessories since 2013 when it entered the market with its signature wool headcovers.

We wanted to see what was up, and Guess was kind enough not only to answer a few questions, but to design a pretty incredible GolfWRX driver cover using some raw assets we sent over.

BA: What’s new at Sunfish since we last talked? 

AG: 2018 was a great year for innovation at Sunfish. We worked hard to develop new design and construction techniques, and it has been really exciting combining these new creative elements into one of a kind headcovers and accessories. 2018 was our eighth year in business, but it was probably the most significant in terms of innovation. We’re excited to see where we can go from here!

BA: Looking at your websites, I know one of the new things you developed is something you call Photoflux. What exactly is Photoflux?

AG: Photoflux is our proprietary high-resolution printing process, that gives us the ability to apply to our products anything from photos to complex patterns to intricate logos. The level of resolution and detail is truly unmatched, and can’t be achieved with embroidery. We apply it to our leather and Duraleather products, even our hand-made copper ball markers and divot tools! Those are really exciting, because we can make custom copper ball markers with full color logos, on demand

BA: How the heck did you come up Photoflux?

AG: A customer ordered a scorecard holder with his family photo to be embroidered on each side. We made the piece and weren’t happy at all with the result. The embroidery process couldn’t do justice to the photographs. It was clear that there were certain limitations to embroidery, and we were motivated to overcome them. After months of trial and error, long hours and strenuous testing against sun, rain, and wear, we developed the current process.

BA: What are ways the Photoflux process can be used?

AG: Photoflux is perfect for applying photos, but can also be used for intricate logos or family crests. Really any graphic element can be expressed accurately using Photoflux, including shading. Recently we’ve had fun developing custom patterns such as tiger fur and using them as stripes on headcovers. The sky’s the limit!

Photoflux is best in concert with other design techniques, such as embroidery, laser engraving, and precision cutting and sewing. The featured piece (shown in this feature) incorporates Photoflux, precision cutting and sewing, laser engraving and embroidery. The result is as much artwork as it is a functional golf accessory.

BA: What are the limitations of the technology…what products can you apply Photoflux to?

AG: It’s great for leather and Duraleather headcovers, putter covers, scorecard and yardage book holders, alignment stick covers, cash covers, valuables pouches, wine bags, barrel style tartan headcovers…and even copper ball markers and divot tools!

BA: Tell me about this headcover you made for GolfWRX. I suggested the use of a graffiti wall, a GolfWRX logo, and skeleton hand holding up one finger to denote one club/driver, and you really went to town!

AG: So for the headcover you have, we used Photoflux to apply the graffiti wall image to the top of the cover (did you notice the ‘GolfWRX’ spraypaint in there? We threw that in there for you as an Easter egg!). On top of that, we embroidered the skeleton hand. For the stripe, we laser cut the outline of a typical urban skyline, and laser engraved the chain-link fence pattern over the top, than sewed that down. The bottom portion is a Photoflux image of GolfWRX that you sent over.

With so many new ways to decorate and manipulate the materials, we’re really excited about combining it all for our fans and customers to create really unique products. We feel the sky is the limit, and we hope this headcover illustrates that.

 

 

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New XXIO Prime woods, hybrids, and irons aim for lightweight power

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XXIO’s latest club offerings, XXIO Prime, looks to offer easy distance and easy accuracy for the moderate swing speed golfer, according to the company.

XXIO Prime woods

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XXIO Prime Woods feature a new re-designed hosel structure, and reduced stiffness at the tip of the driver shaft, which is designed to help moderate swing speed golfers to close the clubface through impact.

Forged from Super-TIX PLUS Titanium, the new cup face includes a sweet spot that is noticeably larger than previous designs, which aims to increase distance performance significantly. The Super-TIX PLUS Titanium Cup Face is thinner, lighter and stronger than previous additions, creating a maximum COR across the face, which aims to increase ball speed and distance.

According to Chuck Thiry, Vice President of XXIO USA

“The speed increases, higher launch angles, and draw bias of the new Prime will show immediate results from swing one. It’s legit lightweight power for the players that absolutely need it the most.”

Featured in the XXIO prime woods is the SP-1000 shaft, with TORAYCA T1100G carbon fiber and NANOALLOY resin, which creates a strong but lightweight club. Along with the lightness in the shaft, XXIO has made weight savings in the grip and club head, which aims to produce woods that are both fast and easy to swing.

The XXIO Prime woods feature an expanded toe and narrowed heel, a tungsten-nickel inner weight that is low and deep, a lighter hosel repositioned closer to the center of the face, and reduced stiffness at the tip of the shaft, all with the aim of offering golfers with maximum forgiveness from their woods.

The XXIO Prime woods will be available from March 1 and will cost $579,99.

XXIO Prime hybrids and irons

The new XXIO Prime hybrids feature an expanded COR and a lower center of gravity, which is designed to increase distance and ball speed while delivering a straighter ball flight.

The hybrids from XXIO contain a Forged Maraging Steel Cup Face which includes a large sweet spot which aims to increase distance performance.

Just as with the woods, the XXIO irons also feature the Super-TIX PLUS Titanium Cup Face, though along with this, they also contain a CNC milled speed groove, which significantly increases the COR, creating a larger sweet spot, designed to provide greater distance, ball speed and accuracy.

Both the hybrids and irons include the SP-1000 Shaft, with TORAYCA T1100G carbon fiber and NANOALLOY resin. The hybrids and irons also feature weight savings in the grip and club head, with the aim of increasing swing speed.

With an expanded toe and narrowed heel, plus a crown step that moves weight low and deep, XXIO claim that this is their most forgiving suite of Prime hybrids. While with two high-density tungsten nickel sole weights and an overall profile that is 3mm shorter than the previous model, the company also claims to have created their most forgiving irons yet.

Speaking on the new XXIO Prime series, Chuck Thiry stated

“XXIO Prime is, quite frankly, the most unique and beneficial product ever available to moderate swing speed players. Period. People might think that is marketing hype, but they simply haven’t hit Prime yet.”

Both the XXIO Prime hybrids and irons will hit retail stores on March 1. The Prime hybrids will cost $379.99, while a single graphite iron will be available for $259.99.

 

 

 

 

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SPOTTED: 2019 Mitsubishi shafts

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The Diamana shaft line from Mitsubishi Chemical is probably one of the most iconic in the sport. Released in 2005, Blueboard, Whiteboard, and Redboard, were the first generation of shafts.

Photos of the full fourth generation Diamana lineup, offering new materials and technology, along with new names, have surfaced in the GolfWRX forums. Like previous generations, each color shaft offers different ball flight and spin characteristics.

“RF” is the highest launching and spinning in the Diamana line, offering high launch and mid spin, while the “BF” is the mid-launch and mid/low-spin model. Finally, the “DF” is mid/low-launching and the lowest-spinning shaft in the lineup.

All of the fourth generation Diamana shafts use updated technologies and materials that you would expect from a premium lineup. DIALEAD pitch fiber is helps reduce shaft deformation, while still producing exceptional energy transfer.

Each shaft contains MR70 carbon fiber that is 20 percent stronger than conventional materials and Boron fiber for its compression strength and shaft reinforcement. ION plating has been done before in the Diamana line, in vacuum chambers — silver alloy ions are bonded to the shaft to give it a chrome-like finish that can’t be replicated by paint.

See what GolfWRX Members are saying in the forums.

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