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Forum Thread of the Day: “How is Patrick Cantlay not getting penalized for slow play?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from TheInfidel, who during Sunday’s fourth round at the Shriners expressed his frustration with Patrick Cantlay’s speed (or lack of it) on the course. Pace of play is a contentious issue right now in golf, and after Corey Pavin’s slow play penalty on the Champions Tour last month, many of our members would like to see officials take action more often on the PGA Tour.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • elwhippy: “He is purgatory. Horsfield tweeted he knows he has an issue and is doing something about it. Cantlay is getting beyond belief. The 2019 rules revisions are about speeding up play but obviously touring pros will be exempt.”
  • the bishop: “I agree that watching Cantlay is frustrating but slow play on the Tour is a collective effort.  Hard to tell watching on TV but was his group ever out of position?  I wonder if Tour officials give some slack on individual times if a group is not out of position if getting them to hurry up would only serve to have them wait even longer to hit their next shots.”
  • GMN_02: “Need to start penalizing players.  5% or 10% of the FedEx Cup points the player would earn from the event for every slow play penalty.  This won’t take them out of the round mentally like a stroke penalty would but the repercussions of losing those points over a whole season could be meaningful enough to make some players speed it up.”
  • IVM: “Here is the answer, if they are slow for more than two holes and they lose a hole then disqualify the group. That will stop slow play.”

Entire Thread: “How is Patrick Cantlay not getting penalized for slow play?”

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10 Comments

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  1. NormW

    Nov 12, 2018 at 11:40 am

    The Tournament should put them on notice, maybe have them sign an agreement before accepting the entry. It’s a performance contract and they are contractors.

  2. The Infidel

    Nov 11, 2018 at 6:16 am

    Cantlay is singled out here, but the topic certainly needs addressed more seriously by the Tour and the PGA. Join the conversation!

  3. Bert Gwaltney

    Nov 9, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    This is the PGA Tour, get accustomed to it continuing, after all it’s an entertainment business.

  4. Tom54

    Nov 9, 2018 at 4:47 pm

    I have a possible solution for at least the viewers. The known slow pokes all should be on delay. Skip all the antics and show us only about the last seconds before they hit their shots. At least we don’t have to suffer, only their fellow playing partners. They are always using tape delays, so just let them always be on delay or don’t cut to them until they hit.

  5. JP

    Nov 9, 2018 at 4:33 pm

    Playing with go slow golfers is the reason I rarely play. My home club is full of them.

  6. Curt

    Nov 9, 2018 at 3:58 pm

    They make so much money DQ then all for being slow. Such good equipment these days if you are slow you don’t deserve to be on tour. Essentially ever sport has a time limit.

  7. Keith

    Nov 9, 2018 at 2:58 pm

    This is a dangerous situation. The fasters are attempting to discriminate against the slows. Slows have rights. Even though they were born biologically faster, they identify as slows, and their choice should be embraced and encouraged.

  8. Mike Honcho

    Nov 9, 2018 at 1:18 pm

    Cantlay makes J.B. Holmes look like Usain Bolt

  9. joro

    Nov 9, 2018 at 12:49 pm

    When is the last time a slow player was penalized, at least one that is a name player. The PGA Tour is total BS in the fact they ignore the rule, and Golf is suffering for that. Kids watch Golf and see slow and think it is fine, and the announcers contribute when they are alway saying be careful and don’t hit until you are ready, you have to wonder is any of them are really ready.

    • Al

      Nov 9, 2018 at 6:33 pm

      It kills me when something bothers a player and they step away. Then the announcer says do the right thing and go through the entire routine again. NOOOOOOOO!!!

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Forum Thread of the Day: “Low handicapper switching to game improvement irons”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from jasonTel3 – a low handicap player who plays blades but who has had his head turned by game improvement irons. According to jasonTel3, every ball was hit straight when testing out a set of Ping G400’s at a simulator, and he’s been asking fellow members for advice on whether he should make the move to GI’s.

Here are a few posts from the thread discussing jasonTel3’s conundrum, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • balls_deep: “My first thought is to say don’t do it.. but then if you’ve hit them, liked them, and the numbers were right, it could be a good option. A friend I play with uses G400 and they have too much offset for my liking. I also don’t like that you can see the cavity on the 4 and 5 iron. Top line is actually very nice for a SGI iron. I just read the Ping Blueprint article on Golf Digest where they were talking about how some players hit small heads better. I definitely fall into that category. That said, I just ordered a set of i210 to try as I had really good luck with the i200 and should never have sold them. Have you tried the newer I series? IMO it’s GI help in a players look with an acceptable sole width. Long story short though – if you felt comfortable and the fit was right, why not try them? If you don’t work the ball a ton, I don’t see any issue with it. High and straight is a good way to go!”
  • hammergolf: “I’ve been playing Ping G25’s for 6 years. Still can’t find anything I like better. I can hit any shot I need to whether it’s my stock draw, fade, high, or low. And when I hit it a little thin, or on the toe, it still lands on the green. My thought is why play golf with a club that will punish you for mishit when you can play one that will help you.”
  • azone: “Everyone has an opinion, and here is mine. If you are/have been a good ball striker with a sound mental game, your mind will keep writing checks your body may not be able to cash as you get older or don’t practice enough. Those “ugly” forgiving irons look beautiful when a miss ends up on the green, and you are putting– not in rough or deep in a short side bunker. Those irons won’t be AS ACCURATE as, say, a blade, BUT if you aren’t as dependable as in the past, your results will be better. I used to keep two sets of blueprinted irons; blades for practice and CB for play. I play with guys that have cashed checks playing…and they don’t care how ugly the iron is.”
  • Jut: “As a decent player (and ball striker) and a sweeper/picker (I could hit off of a green and not take any landscape with me), I’ve found much success with the F9s (which, with the wide sole, are very similar to the G410 irons). In the past 4 years I’ve gone from Mizuno MP-68 to Callaway Apex CF16 to Ping i500 (a brief and bad experience) to the Cobra F9’s. For what it’s worth, the Cobras have been the best of the bunch by far.”

Entire Thread: “Low handicap going to game improvement irons”

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Forum Thread of the Day: “Mark O’Meara’s Scotty Cameron putter”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day showcases Mark O’Meara’s Scotty Cameron flat-stick. The 62-year-old is teeing it up at the Senior PGA Championship from Oak Hill this week, and his putter has impressed our members, who in particular have praised the clean finish and sole shape of the flat-stick.

Here are what our members are saying about the putter, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • BearQ: “Clean. Love the sole.”
  • Bdmac79: “Looks similar to Tiger’s and Rickie’s with the neck placement. I would guess that he’s had it for a bit.”
  • mBiden2: “So fresh and so clean, clean!”

Entire Thread: “Mark O’Meara’s Scotty Cameron putter”

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Forum Thread of the Day: “What’s your bunker play set up?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Tmiller72 who asks fellow members to share their bunker play set up. From loft and bounce, as well as discussing different scenarios, our members share and discuss their philosophy and different strategies for when they are in the sand.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • ChipNRun: “I use my 54/12 SW. I try to keep my weight even on both feet, so I don’t dig in too much. Also…If I need to get it up really quick, it’s the 60/10. If the sand is wet and hard-packed, I’ll pick it off the top with a PW.”
  • Evilduckhunter: “Short ones or short sided is the TM Hi Toe 60 10 with four way sole. Longer shots it’s the Cleveland RTX4 56 10 full grind. I did give the 56 some heel and trailing edge relief.”
  • Joelsim: “Mack Daddy 4 58* X Grind, weight 75% on front foot, clubface very open, full swing with lots of speed. For longer bunker shots, i.e. over 20 feet, I use a lower lofted club, which one depends on the distance. Same full stroke every time.”
  • PlayfromtheBrain: “Vokey 60.06 K-grind (low bounce). I enjoy using it anywhere from about 90 yards and in, though the sand is where the grind really proves its worth. The wide sole pretty much guarantees a decent or better out for me. It’s great around the green, and I have no problem opening it up for different shots. Definitely has inspired confidence. This type of grind demands near perfect contact, but there isn’t a more versatile wedge than one with a wide sole and lower bounce.

Entire Thread: “What’s your bunker play set up?”

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