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Forum Thread of the Day: “How is Patrick Cantlay not getting penalized for slow play?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from TheInfidel, who during Sunday’s fourth round at the Shriners expressed his frustration with Patrick Cantlay’s speed (or lack of it) on the course. Pace of play is a contentious issue right now in golf, and after Corey Pavin’s slow play penalty on the Champions Tour last month, many of our members would like to see officials take action more often on the PGA Tour.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • elwhippy: “He is purgatory. Horsfield tweeted he knows he has an issue and is doing something about it. Cantlay is getting beyond belief. The 2019 rules revisions are about speeding up play but obviously touring pros will be exempt.”
  • the bishop: “I agree that watching Cantlay is frustrating but slow play on the Tour is a collective effort.  Hard to tell watching on TV but was his group ever out of position?  I wonder if Tour officials give some slack on individual times if a group is not out of position if getting them to hurry up would only serve to have them wait even longer to hit their next shots.”
  • GMN_02: “Need to start penalizing players.  5% or 10% of the FedEx Cup points the player would earn from the event for every slow play penalty.  This won’t take them out of the round mentally like a stroke penalty would but the repercussions of losing those points over a whole season could be meaningful enough to make some players speed it up.”
  • IVM: “Here is the answer, if they are slow for more than two holes and they lose a hole then disqualify the group. That will stop slow play.”

Entire Thread: “How is Patrick Cantlay not getting penalized for slow play?”

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  1. NormW

    Nov 12, 2018 at 11:40 am

    The Tournament should put them on notice, maybe have them sign an agreement before accepting the entry. It’s a performance contract and they are contractors.

  2. The Infidel

    Nov 11, 2018 at 6:16 am

    Cantlay is singled out here, but the topic certainly needs addressed more seriously by the Tour and the PGA. Join the conversation!

  3. Bert Gwaltney

    Nov 9, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    This is the PGA Tour, get accustomed to it continuing, after all it’s an entertainment business.

  4. Tom54

    Nov 9, 2018 at 4:47 pm

    I have a possible solution for at least the viewers. The known slow pokes all should be on delay. Skip all the antics and show us only about the last seconds before they hit their shots. At least we don’t have to suffer, only their fellow playing partners. They are always using tape delays, so just let them always be on delay or don’t cut to them until they hit.

  5. JP

    Nov 9, 2018 at 4:33 pm

    Playing with go slow golfers is the reason I rarely play. My home club is full of them.

  6. Curt

    Nov 9, 2018 at 3:58 pm

    They make so much money DQ then all for being slow. Such good equipment these days if you are slow you don’t deserve to be on tour. Essentially ever sport has a time limit.

  7. Keith

    Nov 9, 2018 at 2:58 pm

    This is a dangerous situation. The fasters are attempting to discriminate against the slows. Slows have rights. Even though they were born biologically faster, they identify as slows, and their choice should be embraced and encouraged.

  8. Mike Honcho

    Nov 9, 2018 at 1:18 pm

    Cantlay makes J.B. Holmes look like Usain Bolt

  9. joro

    Nov 9, 2018 at 12:49 pm

    When is the last time a slow player was penalized, at least one that is a name player. The PGA Tour is total BS in the fact they ignore the rule, and Golf is suffering for that. Kids watch Golf and see slow and think it is fine, and the announcers contribute when they are alway saying be careful and don’t hit until you are ready, you have to wonder is any of them are really ready.

    • Al

      Nov 9, 2018 at 6:33 pm

      It kills me when something bothers a player and they step away. Then the announcer says do the right thing and go through the entire routine again. NOOOOOOOO!!!

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Forum Thread of the Day: “The conduct of the spectators at Bethpage Black”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Pauly567 who expressed his disapproval of the behavior of some spectators at the PGA Championship. Our members have been discussing the conduct of some of the spectators at Bethpage Black, and whether they feel that their behavior is acceptable, as well as what could occur when the course plays host to the 2024 Ryder Cup.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Ashley Schaeffer: “I don’t weigh in on crowd issues often, but this is on another level. I am very confused by the motivation of the New Yahker crowd in displaying these antics. Do the loudmouths think they are being funny? Do they not get enough attention in their personal lives? It’s honestly puzzling how one locale can produce so many incredibly annoying fans, and be somewhat celebrated for it. “Well, that’s just the New York crowd, hehehe” is misguided. We shouldn’t hand out passes for being obnoxious based on location.”
  • LeoLeo99: “Other than the 18th tee, didn’t hear any hooligans out on the course. They made Willett laugh so much serenading him with Danny Boy on the 18th tee that he threw them a ball. All good fun. Phil gave my wife a high 5 and Tony Finau autographed some stuff for wife and me. Almost no mud on course. Perfect weather. Very organized getting people to/ from the course and in the huge merchandise tent. If you go, you’ll do some walking.”
  • Dave230: “There’s no other sport you can get as close to the stars as in golf. If a player hit a ball into the rough, you can watch it happen from two yards behind them; it’s unique. It’s sad how people abuse that privilege. I never like when people compare it to getting abuse from crowds in other sports, it’s done from a distance and in an arena setting, it’s much easier to drown it out. If you’re at work and there’s lots of stuff going on in the office you can work. If there’s one person in your ear talking all the time, you’re going to be distracted.”
  • NoodleSalad: “What I find interesting is that despite all this talk about how atrocious the fans are, not a single pro has complained about them in post-round interviews. I’ve read all of the interviews, and no one has a negative thing to say. Odd isn’t it? Although Spieth credited them with helping him sink a birdie putt on 8: ‘Yeah, the crowd is yelling out that no one has got it to the hole yet and DJ hits it, and it kind of breaks less than it looks. I had a read, plus the crowd is hollering that everyone has left it short, so I just went off a little bit lower line than what DJ had, and luckily I was able to see that. You just try to get the right speed for the green and certainly it’s a bonus when it drops.’

Entire Thread: “The conduct of the spectators at Bethpage Black”

 

 

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Forum Thread of the Day: “Ball in the thick rough – what club to use?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from jjfcpa who asks fellow members what their preferred choice of club is when their ball is in thick rough. A variety of irons and hybrids are mentioned by our members who delve into the discussion of course management.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • RainShadow: “For me, that sot would be a 7 iron, open the face a little and play a runner up to the front of the green. Open face will help a bit with getting stuck in the grass.”
  • golfgirlrobin: “Club choice depends on whether you’re willing to accept a bogey or whether you insist on making double.”
  • ChipNRun: “I would try a hinge and hold action. Take a half swing with plenty of hinge action and punch down on the ball with limited follow-through. Use the big muscles of the shoulders – you don’t want to hurt yourself trying to muscle it. Probably choose something between a PW and a 7i. You’ll need to hold firmly with L hand, so the grass doesn’t wrap around the hosel and deloft the club face.”
  • kcd38: “If it is 200 plus from the green and a decent lie, hybrid. If it is less than 200 from the green and sunk down a little, I usually go with my 8 iron and play the face slightly open knowing the grass will grab the hosel and shut the face. Definitely need some speed to get out of the thick stuff.”

Entire Thread: “Ball in the thick rough – what club to use?”

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Forum Thread of the Day: “Pat Perez loses his head on the range”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Yanki01 who showcased a bizarre incident on the range at Bethpage Black. Hitting a drive, Pat Perez sees his driver head fly off, and our members have been discussing the incident as well as Perez’ priceless reaction.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • MidWestGolfBum: “The look of pure confusion from PP made that all the better. Just looks back with a “well, now what” type expression.”
  • dirt nasty: “Its more fun when you have to get the entire range to stop hitting balls so you can go fetch it.”
  • thevaporz: “It happens to everyone! I had to do that once. Also had a buddy new to the game let go of and fling his driver completely over the left side range netting into a tall tree. Going, going, gone! We couldn’t stop laughing after that one. Maintenance crew got it down for him a few days later. This game is awesome.”

Entire Thread: “Pat Perez loses his head on the range”

Thread title courtesy of GolfWRX member Potatohead

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