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Greg Norman would “hate” to see golf “get lost again in that Tiger talk”
Greg Norman and Tiger Woods have never had the best of relationships, with the Australian once stating how despite living less than half a mile from each other, neither man had said a word to each other in over ten years. Norman has also not been afraid to take public jabs at Woods in the past.
In 2013, Norman claimed that he would have gotten the better of Woods had they competed against each other, saying: “Tiger’s a tough guy, but I was a tough guy on the course, too. I probably would have beat him,” while earlier this year he stated with regards to Woods’ comeback: “I don’t care how Tiger does.”
Despite not caring how Woods performs, the two-time major champion once again has chosen to speak publicly about Tiger, explaining how he would hate to see golf “get lost again in that Tiger talk.”
Speaking on the Yahoo Finance Sportsbook podcast, Norman stated:
“I hope they don’t put all their eggs in one basket again and be all Tiger and forget about all this other wonderful, fantastic talent even coming out of Korea and Japan and South Africa and Australia. Unbelievable amount of talent bubbling up around the world, and I’d hate to see them get lost again in that Tiger talk.”
Norman also had a unique take on the effect Woods has on the TV ratings. The Australian believes the reason behind the rating increase when Woods plays is not because he moves the needle, but his ability to bring out the best in his more talented peers.
“TV ratings are up because of what Tiger Woods does to every other player. It’s not just about the one player; it’s about all the supporting cast who are equal if not better than him. He’s just pulling them along to make them more standout.”
A very curious take from Norman indeed, especially when you consider that just two weeks ago all of Woods’ close competitors folded on Sunday afternoon as Woods waltzed to PGA Tour win number 80 of his career.
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Tommy Fleetwood has been attached to his Odyssey White Hot Pro #3 putter for years now. However, this week at the Wells Fargo Championship, we did spot him testing a new putter that is very different, yet somewhat similar, to his current gamer.
This new putter is a TaylorMade Spider Tour X head but with a brand new neck we haven’t seen on a Spider before. A flow neck is attached to the Spider head and gives the putter about a 1/2 shaft offset. This style neck will usually increase the toe hang of the putter and we can guess it gets the putter close to his White Hot Pro #3.
Another interesting design is that lack of TaylorMade’s True Path alignment on the top of the putter. Instead of the large white center stripe, Tommy’s Spider just has a very short white site line milled into it. As with his Odyssey, Tommy seems to be a fan of soft inserts and this Spider prototype looks to have the TPU Pure Roll insert with 45° grooves for immediate topspin and less hopping and skidding.
The sole is interesting as well in that the rear weights don’t look to be interchangeable and are recessed deep into the ports. This setup could be used to push the CG forward in the putter for a more blade-like feel during the stroke, like TaylorMade did with the Spider X Proto Scottie Scheffler tested out.
Tommy’s putter is finished off with an older Super Stroke Mid Slim 2.0 grip in blue and white. The Mid Slim was designed to fit in between the Ultra Slim 1.0 and the Slim 3.0 that was a popular grip on tour.
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Editor’s note: This is an excerpt from a piece our Andrew Tursky originally wrote for PGATour.com’s Equipment Report. Head over there for the full article.
…The Jailbird craze hasn’t really slowed down in 2024, either. According to Odyssey rep Joe Toulon, there are about 18-20 Jailbird putter users on the PGA TOUR.
Most recently, Akshay Bhatia won the 2024 Valero Texas Open using a broomstick-style Odyssey Jailbird 380 putter and Webb Simpson is switching into a replica of that putter at the 2024 Wells Fargo Championship.
Now, Fowler, who essentially started the whole Jailbird craze, is making a significant change to his putter setup.
Fowler, who has had a couple weeks off since the 2024 RBC Heritage, started experimenting with a new, custom-orange Jailbird 380 head that’s equipped with a standard 35-inch putter build, rather than his previous 38-inch counter-balanced setup.
According to Fowler, while he still likes the look and forgiveness of his Jailbird putter head, he’s looking to re-incorporate more feel into his hands during the putting stroke.
He told GolfWRX.com on Tuesday at the Wells Fargo Championship that the 38-inch counterbalanced setup “served its purpose” by helping him to neutralize his hands during the stroke, but now it’s time to try the standard-length putter with a standard-size SuperStroke Pistol Tour grip to help with his feel and speed control.
Although Fowler was also spotted testing standard-length mallets from L.A.B. Golf and Axis1 on Tuesday, he confirmed that the custom Odyssey Jailbird 380 is the putter he’ll use this week at the 2024 Wells Fargo Championship.
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Editor’s note: This is an excerpt from a piece our Andrew Tursky originally wrote for PGATour.com’s Equipment Report. Head over there for the full article.
So, with a couple of weeks off following his latest start at the 2024 RBC Heritage, Thomas sought to re-address his driver setup with the remote help of Titleist Tour fitting expert J.J. Van Wezenbeeck. About two weeks ago, Thomas and Van Wezenbeeck reviewed his recent driver stats, and discussed via phone call some possible driver and shaft combinations for him to try.
After receiving Van Wezenbeeck’s personalized shipment of product options while at home, Thomas found significant performance improvements with Titleist’s TSR2 head, equipped with Thomas’ familiar Mitsubishi Diamana ZF 60 TX shaft.
Compared to Thomas’ longtime TSR3 model, the TSR2 has a larger footprint and offers slightly higher spin and launch characteristics.
According to Van Wezenbeeck, Thomas has picked up about 2-3 mph of ball speed, to go along with 1.5 degrees higher launch and more predictable mishits.
“I’d say I’d been driving it fine, not driving it great, so I just wanted to, honestly, just test or try some stuff,” Thomas said on Tuesday in an interview with GolfWRX.com at Quail Hollow Club. “I had used that style of head a couple years ago (Thomas used a TSi2 driver around 2021); I know it’s supposed to have a little more spin. Obviously, yeah, I’d love to hit it further, but if I can get a little more spin and have my mishits be a little more consistent, I felt like obviously that’d be better for my driving…
“This (TSR2) has been great. I’ve really, really driven it well the week I’ve used it. Just hitting it more solid, I don’t know if it’s the look of it or what it is, but just a little bit more consistent with the spin numbers. Less knuckle-ball curves. It has been fast. Maybe just a little faster than what I was using. Maybe it could be something with the bigger head, maybe mentally it looks more forgiving.”
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John Papadakis
Oct 11, 2018 at 11:25 am
Norman is a loser.. His products/play and behavior all demonstrate that. I guess the news people could not find anybody worthwhile to talk to this day. His comments are just plain ridiculous.
John
Nov 5, 2018 at 11:41 am
I wish I was as big a loser as Norman.
Tony
Oct 10, 2018 at 6:06 am
We all love Tiger. We want to see him play every shot. We just don’t want to see him scratching his bum, picking his nose, lobbing gollys on the turf, and discussing 5 club selection possibilities with Joe. There are other golfers out there too.
Jay Davis
Oct 9, 2018 at 9:31 am
He’s always been a hater of great golfer’s. Maybe he needs to take a back seat and be quiet and just watch what he can’t do anymore. Play great golf.
El Hanna Thomas
Oct 9, 2018 at 8:20 am
Mr Normans continuous negative commentary comes from a deep place in his heart that won’t allow him to say nice things about tiger. Maybe tiger stanned him and didn’t sign one of those stupid Bermuda style cowboy hats Greg likes to wear so much Lol.
Marsha Densmore
Oct 9, 2018 at 2:53 am
I remember the Sunday that Greg went in 11 up in the lead, Nope he didn’t win. If Tiger was ahead by 11 you know he’s going to win.. Greg you never had what Tiger has, never! I loved the why the people rusted the course when Tiger won. Never seen that before, loved it. I don’t know if anyone can bring to golf what Tiger has. I’m happy what he bring, the players are too!
Mike
Oct 8, 2018 at 10:45 pm
Greg Norman seems to be the only person in the world who isn’t aware that he’s known as a choker. For him to say he’s tough and would have beaten Tiger shows that he has an unrealistic view of himself. Tiger is by far the best closer in history. Norman doesn’t realize that he just gave the entire golfing public a big laugh.
Marsha Densmore
Oct 9, 2018 at 2:57 am
Remember the Sunday Greg was up by 11, no he didn’t win….
Pete
Oct 9, 2018 at 5:07 am
And shot 40 on the back nine at the ‘86 PGA… but yeah, Bob put it in from the bunker…
chris
Nov 18, 2018 at 7:39 am
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Eric McDade
Oct 8, 2018 at 10:15 pm
Norman and his good buddy Donald Trump both living in alternate realities. What a joke.
Bill S.
Oct 8, 2018 at 8:54 pm
Greg, please go play with your new chainsaw.
Tom
Oct 8, 2018 at 8:22 pm
Norman is an irrelevant choker… He couldn’t carry Tiger’s bag on his best day!
John
Nov 5, 2018 at 12:06 pm
Choker, yeah? 91 tournament victories in Norman’s pro career, playing in an era where he found himself competing with the likes of Ballesteros, Nicklaus, Watson and Faldo. He may not have been as good as Woods but according to Woods fans NO ONE is as good as Woods so why say it? The way you guys talk you’d think you were all better than Norman.
Glftips
Oct 8, 2018 at 4:04 pm
I live near them both. Norman is not well liked and was thrown out of The Medalist because he is such a jerk. Clearly he is jealous of Tiger’s record and the attention he has received.
Tjdoty72
Oct 8, 2018 at 4:18 pm
Couldn’t agree more! If he really think that everyone was tune into see all the supporting cast he is a complete idiot. And I always liked Greg norman but that is the most ridiculous explanation to the rating increase I have ever heard. He obviously lacks the simple intellect to use basic correlation common sense!!! Tiger gone = LOW Ratings / Tiger Present = VERY HIGH Ratings!!! Not real hard to figure out what drives ratings Greg!!!
Jack Nash
Oct 8, 2018 at 3:34 pm
Totally understand where Norman’s coming from. When Woods had his comeback it was 24/7 Woods on GC. It shouldn’t been taken as a negative for somebody expressing his opinion. Once you bad mouth him it’s time to look in the mirror. Woods has done a lot for the game but there’s more than 1 player that keeps golf where it is. Golf didn’t disappear when Woods was gone. Many, many great young players have shown what they have. They’ve won majors and will keep going. That’s if you get to hear about them on GC if Woods is in the same Tourney.
Robert Harte
Oct 9, 2018 at 9:39 am
I agree. Greg’s comments are more bashing the media than Tiger. I realized recently that except for his use of foul language I didn’t dislike Tiger. I really disliked the way the announcers ignored all the other player while making comments about Tigers like lovesick teenagers.
Thomas Horonzy
Oct 8, 2018 at 3:24 pm
Two majors vs fourteen. If they were to play I’d be betting on the Big Cat. As for ratings, he may bring the play of others up but they still have problems beating him. Think about it. Gone for five years, he has what eight top tens including two runner-ups including the Open plus a win. Who else has done anything close to that save for the Wee Mon. Sorry, Greg. There is a strong bias in your camp. Hopefully, it is jealousy and not prejudice.
kevin bayer
Oct 8, 2018 at 2:26 pm
I don’t know who is more jealous, this guy or Johnny miller.
Buck Buckner
Oct 8, 2018 at 2:25 pm
Tiger talk is a bore.
C
Oct 8, 2018 at 2:17 pm
The most jealous golfer in the history of the sport!!!
Tom54
Oct 8, 2018 at 1:35 pm
Love him or hate him,you have to agree that tv coverage when Tiger is playing is a bit over the top. I do not think Norman is criticizing Tiger by stating what happens. The announcers practically trip over themselves to constantly tell us about Tiger as if he’s the only one in the field. I like Tiger just as much as the next person, but please don’t overlook all the other talent just because he’s playing this week. Arnie retired,Jack retired,and one day Tiger will exit the stage too. Golf will carry on as always.
Paul Neil
Oct 8, 2018 at 2:23 pm
But not soon enough for me. The coverage is biased towards him I for one turn it off. Ithink they are all on his payroll.
Mike
Oct 8, 2018 at 4:07 pm
Paul, I think you are correct! They are all on his payroll and stated another way, thanks to Tiger their payrolls are MUCH larger!
Mike
Oct 8, 2018 at 10:51 pm
I can tell you that since Tiger’s retutn
1. I know a dozen people who purchased the PGA Tour Live app so they can watch Tigers early rounds.
2. My phone blows up with texts and txt threads when he’s playing.
3. I was in a tent after a golf tournament I play in every year the Sunday of the tour championship and there were a hundred guys going crazy watching him on the big screen they had in there. I’ve never seen that kind of reaction to any other player winning a tournament.
The haters don’t realize that Tigers the only person most people care about.
Anthony Welch
Oct 10, 2018 at 5:56 am
Probably the most sensible comment in this forum.
Me
Oct 8, 2018 at 12:28 pm
The only thing Norman was ever good at was chasing women. He probably learned from his partner in crime, Bill Clinton. Otherwise Norman was an overrated choke artist who never met a major he didn’t lose.
Curtis Carter Jr.
Oct 8, 2018 at 1:46 pm
ME, Have you forgotten about the Waffle House waitress(es) that Tiger has bagged? I would not claim that Greg’s winning record is anywhere near Tiger’s — I just agree with Greg that, when Tiger is playing, the TV coverage of him is too fawning and overbearing, to the exclusion of most of the other very talented players in the field.
Tom
Oct 8, 2018 at 12:22 pm
I agree with Norman. I was turned off by the golf coverage when woods was winning and it has started again. 90% of the coverage has been on woods since he came back. I may have to start watching bowling.
joro
Oct 8, 2018 at 12:20 pm
WOW, he and Azinger sure brought out the weenie tiger rappers. Now for Norman, what planet does he live on to think he would have beaten Tiger. The guy is getting more and more off balance every time he opens his Pie hole. My God Greg, go out and do something.
Boyo
Oct 8, 2018 at 11:45 am
Tiger would bury you like the stinking choking dog that you are.
Scott
Oct 8, 2018 at 11:41 am
Norman is a bitter egomaniacal piece of dog excrement.
I could tell you stories about that jerk from when I volunteered at the Buick Open in the 90’s. Miserable nasty wretch of a man.
Greg
Oct 8, 2018 at 11:30 am
His own opinion of himself aside, isn’t it telling that no one puts Norman in the top 10 golfers of all time? Why? Because despite being No. 1 in the word for 331 weeks, he only won two majors. Two. Larry Mize beat him. Bob Tway beat him. And yet, he seriously contends that with both of them in their prime, he was the better golfer. Other than total driving, name me one area of the game where Tiger wasn’t markedly superior to Norman. [crickets]
gery katona
Oct 8, 2018 at 11:28 am
Probably a bit of jealousy or racial anonymity in those comments. Shame on Norman. Tiger gets attention because he is the only dynamic player on tour, thus people like to watch him. He also has the whole package, good looking, great smile, well-spoken, etc. And oh, he’s the best golfer as well. We’ve never seen another player like him in our lifetimes.
Peter
Oct 10, 2018 at 5:35 am
So to critise the broadcasters of bias towards Tiger is racist? Whatever next?
GMatt
Oct 8, 2018 at 11:23 am
Once again the “Ugly American” rears their head to reply to someone’s comments. Hey he has an opinion, maybe wrong, maybe right, but the venom spilled here in this “politically correct” age of No Bullying, sure shows our true colors in the world…..
Ev
Oct 9, 2018 at 2:26 am
Well Matt, just as Norman is allowed to state his opinion so does everyone else in this country! Could it be that you don’t like the majority opinion???
Lol, this is the land of free speech.
Aztec
Oct 8, 2018 at 9:06 am
So…ratings go up when Tiger plays because people want to watch other players? This literally makes no sense.
Golf Golf Golf
Oct 8, 2018 at 5:56 am
Let’s fix the headline: “Greg Norman Hates Tiger Woods”
E Boogie
Oct 9, 2018 at 8:08 am
lol
robert
Oct 8, 2018 at 5:19 am
Just when it appeared Norman might finally redeem himself from three past failures at Augusta National by making a 30-foot eagle on the 13th hole to take the lead, Olazabal rammed home a birdie putt to tie.
Afterwards The s*** eating grin of Norman ended his quest as olazabal went on to beat the ego laced norman
James
Oct 7, 2018 at 8:40 pm
Norman obviously does not like Tiger. But to drivel out such BS just makes him look stupid.
James
Oct 7, 2018 at 8:59 pm
P.S. to go with the BS: I won’t be buying any Greg Norman wine. What you say picks up or loses customers.
Jamie
Oct 7, 2018 at 7:55 pm
Regardless of how much of a narcissistic DB he is, Norman is right on this. Ignorant bandwagoning is very dangerous and unstabilizing no matter what the issue.
Steven St Clair
Oct 7, 2018 at 9:10 pm
Get real. Golf is infinitely more interesting with Tiger back in the discussion.
Chris UK
Oct 8, 2018 at 12:17 pm
That’s the problem, he’s not back in the discussion, it’s the Tiger show again and it’s boring all the time. He’s right, the young guys are better than him…
Mike
Oct 7, 2018 at 5:17 pm
In 2 years between 1999 and 2000 Tiger won as many tournaments on the PGA Tour and double the Majors that Greg Norman won in his entire career. Him criticizing Tiger is a joke.
Scheiss
Oct 7, 2018 at 11:15 am
He is King of the blowhard egotistical maniacal sociopathic racist self-obsessed Aussie. Such a prototype. I’ve met so many of these cnuts. What an eejit
Craig
Oct 7, 2018 at 6:06 pm
Thanks, as an aussie, I am not sure who is being racist here??
Craig
Oct 7, 2018 at 6:08 pm
BTW. I don’t condone what Norman said, it was dumb.
Peter
Oct 7, 2018 at 6:36 pm
i am an aussie and find that very offensive.
CaoNiMa
Oct 7, 2018 at 10:32 pm
Your beds are burning.
Time to give it back
lol
Scheiss
Oct 8, 2018 at 1:54 pm
C U Next Time. You know what that spells
Mortons Salt
Oct 7, 2018 at 10:57 am
So much saltiness here…and I know my salt.
Greg Norman; the Great White Shank. Says he’s tough but mentally collapsed when holding a lead at The Masters.
He’s just jealous because:
A) He never won The Masters
B) Tiger broke his record for consecutive weeks at World #1
Jay Cee
Oct 7, 2018 at 9:54 am
Norman’s a jealous and petty little man. Toot toot Norman, keep blowing your own horn.
Syer Shulver
Oct 7, 2018 at 8:22 am
He might not care about Tiger. The World cares less about him. Great Golfer in his prime. But he’s now merely ‘history’……
bj
Oct 7, 2018 at 7:45 am
think Norman has Tiger on his Rushmore lol.
Johnny Penso
Oct 6, 2018 at 10:17 pm
Norman’s whole comment gives a bit more context:
“I never feared anything or anyone on the course, and I wasn’t afraid to fail,” said Norman. “So I think I’d do pretty well against Snead, Hogan, Tiger and Phil — whoever. Tiger’s a tough guy, but I was a tough guy on the course, too. I probably would have beat him.”
Tiger didn’t win every tournament and Norman didn’t lose every tournament. Norman was also number one for 331 weeks so chances are he would have beaten Tiger here or there just like everyone else did.
Get A Clue
Oct 6, 2018 at 9:16 pm
Youre probably right Greg. One of the biggest chokers in golf history would have beaten the most clutch and top 2 player of all time…..Said nobody besides you, ever.
Get A Clue
Oct 6, 2018 at 9:22 pm
And the part about the ratings not being completely due to Tiger is truly one of the dumbest things ive read in a long time.
Mike
Oct 6, 2018 at 9:45 pm
Norman couldn’t beat the players of his era (an era that was not the ‘strongest’ period of golf talent). How many times did he..choke? 2 Majors, for someone as good as he thinks he was?
Dr Troy
Oct 6, 2018 at 8:33 pm
Here we go again with this blow hard, egotistical, JEALOUS, Norman. Your mouth never stops running I see.
Barry Boyd
Oct 6, 2018 at 7:35 pm
NEVER liked Norman….heard terrible things about him. But he is correct about this though…golf can survive without Tiger, Tiger Trackers, and disruptive novice golf galleries.
Tom
Oct 6, 2018 at 7:23 pm
Nice to see Norman with clothes on again.
Tyler
Oct 6, 2018 at 10:34 pm
Haha I love this comment.
K
Oct 6, 2018 at 6:51 pm
Good god is he jealous and brutally wrong. One of the worst takes I’ve ever seen