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Greg Norman would “hate” to see golf “get lost again in that Tiger talk”



Greg Norman and Tiger Woods have never had the best of relationships, with the Australian once stating how despite living less than half a mile from each other, neither man had said a word to each other in over ten years. Norman has also not been afraid to take public jabs at Woods in the past.

In 2013, Norman claimed that he would have gotten the better of Woods had they competed against each other, saying: “Tiger’s a tough guy, but I was a tough guy on the course, too. I probably would have beat him,” while earlier this year he stated with regards to Woods’ comeback: “I don’t care how Tiger does.”

Despite not caring how Woods performs, the two-time major champion once again has chosen to speak publicly about Tiger, explaining how he would hate to see golf  “get lost again in that Tiger talk.”

Speaking on the Yahoo Finance Sportsbook podcast, Norman stated:

“I hope they don’t put all their eggs in one basket again and be all Tiger and forget about all this other wonderful, fantastic talent even coming out of Korea and Japan and South Africa and Australia. Unbelievable amount of talent bubbling up around the world, and I’d hate to see them get lost again in that Tiger talk.”

Norman also had a unique take on the effect Woods has on the TV ratings. The Australian believes the reason behind the rating increase when Woods plays is not because he moves the needle, but his ability to bring out the best in his more talented peers.

“TV ratings are up because of what Tiger Woods does to every other player. It’s not just about the one player; it’s about all the supporting cast who are equal if not better than him. He’s just pulling them along to make them more standout.”

A very curious take from Norman indeed, especially when you consider that just two weeks ago all of Woods’ close competitors folded on Sunday afternoon as Woods waltzed to PGA Tour win number 80 of his career.

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  1. John Papadakis

    Oct 11, 2018 at 11:25 am

    Norman is a loser.. His products/play and behavior all demonstrate that. I guess the news people could not find anybody worthwhile to talk to this day. His comments are just plain ridiculous.

  2. Tony

    Oct 10, 2018 at 6:06 am

    We all love Tiger. We want to see him play every shot. We just don’t want to see him scratching his bum, picking his nose, lobbing gollys on the turf, and discussing 5 club selection possibilities with Joe. There are other golfers out there too.

  3. Jay Davis

    Oct 9, 2018 at 9:31 am

    He’s always been a hater of great golfer’s. Maybe he needs to take a back seat and be quiet and just watch what he can’t do anymore. Play great golf.

  4. El Hanna Thomas

    Oct 9, 2018 at 8:20 am

    Mr Normans continuous negative commentary comes from a deep place in his heart that won’t allow him to say nice things about tiger. Maybe tiger stanned him and didn’t sign one of those stupid Bermuda style cowboy hats Greg likes to wear so much Lol.

  5. Marsha Densmore

    Oct 9, 2018 at 2:53 am

    I remember the Sunday that Greg went in 11 up in the lead, Nope he didn’t win. If Tiger was ahead by 11 you know he’s going to win.. Greg you never had what Tiger has, never! I loved the why the people rusted the course when Tiger won. Never seen that before, loved it. I don’t know if anyone can bring to golf what Tiger has. I’m happy what he bring, the players are too!

  6. Mike

    Oct 8, 2018 at 10:45 pm

    Greg Norman seems to be the only person in the world who isn’t aware that he’s known as a choker. For him to say he’s tough and would have beaten Tiger shows that he has an unrealistic view of himself. Tiger is by far the best closer in history. Norman doesn’t realize that he just gave the entire golfing public a big laugh.

    • Marsha Densmore

      Oct 9, 2018 at 2:57 am

      Remember the Sunday Greg was up by 11, no he didn’t win….

      • Pete

        Oct 9, 2018 at 5:07 am

        And shot 40 on the back nine at the ‘86 PGA… but yeah, Bob put it in from the bunker…

    • chris

      Nov 18, 2018 at 7:39 am

  7. Eric McDade

    Oct 8, 2018 at 10:15 pm

    Norman and his good buddy Donald Trump both living in alternate realities. What a joke.

  8. Bill S.

    Oct 8, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    Greg, please go play with your new chainsaw.

  9. Tom

    Oct 8, 2018 at 8:22 pm

    Norman is an irrelevant choker… He couldn’t carry Tiger’s bag on his best day!

    • John

      Nov 5, 2018 at 12:06 pm

      Choker, yeah? 91 tournament victories in Norman’s pro career, playing in an era where he found himself competing with the likes of Ballesteros, Nicklaus, Watson and Faldo. He may not have been as good as Woods but according to Woods fans NO ONE is as good as Woods so why say it? The way you guys talk you’d think you were all better than Norman.

  10. Glftips

    Oct 8, 2018 at 4:04 pm

    I live near them both. Norman is not well liked and was thrown out of The Medalist because he is such a jerk. Clearly he is jealous of Tiger’s record and the attention he has received.

    • Tjdoty72

      Oct 8, 2018 at 4:18 pm

      Couldn’t agree more! If he really think that everyone was tune into see all the supporting cast he is a complete idiot. And I always liked Greg norman but that is the most ridiculous explanation to the rating increase I have ever heard. He obviously lacks the simple intellect to use basic correlation common sense!!! Tiger gone = LOW Ratings / Tiger Present = VERY HIGH Ratings!!! Not real hard to figure out what drives ratings Greg!!!

  11. Jack Nash

    Oct 8, 2018 at 3:34 pm

    Totally understand where Norman’s coming from. When Woods had his comeback it was 24/7 Woods on GC. It shouldn’t been taken as a negative for somebody expressing his opinion. Once you bad mouth him it’s time to look in the mirror. Woods has done a lot for the game but there’s more than 1 player that keeps golf where it is. Golf didn’t disappear when Woods was gone. Many, many great young players have shown what they have. They’ve won majors and will keep going. That’s if you get to hear about them on GC if Woods is in the same Tourney.

    • Robert Harte

      Oct 9, 2018 at 9:39 am

      I agree. Greg’s comments are more bashing the media than Tiger. I realized recently that except for his use of foul language I didn’t dislike Tiger. I really disliked the way the announcers ignored all the other player while making comments about Tigers like lovesick teenagers.

  12. Thomas Horonzy

    Oct 8, 2018 at 3:24 pm

    Two majors vs fourteen. If they were to play I’d be betting on the Big Cat. As for ratings, he may bring the play of others up but they still have problems beating him. Think about it. Gone for five years, he has what eight top tens including two runner-ups including the Open plus a win. Who else has done anything close to that save for the Wee Mon. Sorry, Greg. There is a strong bias in your camp. Hopefully, it is jealousy and not prejudice.

  13. kevin bayer

    Oct 8, 2018 at 2:26 pm

    I don’t know who is more jealous, this guy or Johnny miller.

  14. Buck Buckner

    Oct 8, 2018 at 2:25 pm

    Tiger talk is a bore.

  15. C

    Oct 8, 2018 at 2:17 pm

    The most jealous golfer in the history of the sport!!!

  16. Tom54

    Oct 8, 2018 at 1:35 pm

    Love him or hate him,you have to agree that tv coverage when Tiger is playing is a bit over the top. I do not think Norman is criticizing Tiger by stating what happens. The announcers practically trip over themselves to constantly tell us about Tiger as if he’s the only one in the field. I like Tiger just as much as the next person, but please don’t overlook all the other talent just because he’s playing this week. Arnie retired,Jack retired,and one day Tiger will exit the stage too. Golf will carry on as always.

    • Paul Neil

      Oct 8, 2018 at 2:23 pm

      But not soon enough for me. The coverage is biased towards him I for one turn it off. Ithink they are all on his payroll.

      • Mike

        Oct 8, 2018 at 4:07 pm

        Paul, I think you are correct! They are all on his payroll and stated another way, thanks to Tiger their payrolls are MUCH larger!

    • Mike

      Oct 8, 2018 at 10:51 pm

      I can tell you that since Tiger’s retutn
      1. I know a dozen people who purchased the PGA Tour Live app so they can watch Tigers early rounds.
      2. My phone blows up with texts and txt threads when he’s playing.
      3. I was in a tent after a golf tournament I play in every year the Sunday of the tour championship and there were a hundred guys going crazy watching him on the big screen they had in there. I’ve never seen that kind of reaction to any other player winning a tournament.
      The haters don’t realize that Tigers the only person most people care about.

    • Anthony Welch

      Oct 10, 2018 at 5:56 am

      Probably the most sensible comment in this forum.

  17. Me

    Oct 8, 2018 at 12:28 pm

    The only thing Norman was ever good at was chasing women. He probably learned from his partner in crime, Bill Clinton. Otherwise Norman was an overrated choke artist who never met a major he didn’t lose.

    • Curtis Carter Jr.

      Oct 8, 2018 at 1:46 pm

      ME, Have you forgotten about the Waffle House waitress(es) that Tiger has bagged? I would not claim that Greg’s winning record is anywhere near Tiger’s — I just agree with Greg that, when Tiger is playing, the TV coverage of him is too fawning and overbearing, to the exclusion of most of the other very talented players in the field.

  18. Tom

    Oct 8, 2018 at 12:22 pm

    I agree with Norman. I was turned off by the golf coverage when woods was winning and it has started again. 90% of the coverage has been on woods since he came back. I may have to start watching bowling.

  19. joro

    Oct 8, 2018 at 12:20 pm

    WOW, he and Azinger sure brought out the weenie tiger rappers. Now for Norman, what planet does he live on to think he would have beaten Tiger. The guy is getting more and more off balance every time he opens his Pie hole. My God Greg, go out and do something.

  20. Boyo

    Oct 8, 2018 at 11:45 am

    Tiger would bury you like the stinking choking dog that you are.

  21. Scott

    Oct 8, 2018 at 11:41 am

    Norman is a bitter egomaniacal piece of dog excrement.

    I could tell you stories about that jerk from when I volunteered at the Buick Open in the 90’s. Miserable nasty wretch of a man.

  22. Greg

    Oct 8, 2018 at 11:30 am

    His own opinion of himself aside, isn’t it telling that no one puts Norman in the top 10 golfers of all time? Why? Because despite being No. 1 in the word for 331 weeks, he only won two majors. Two. Larry Mize beat him. Bob Tway beat him. And yet, he seriously contends that with both of them in their prime, he was the better golfer. Other than total driving, name me one area of the game where Tiger wasn’t markedly superior to Norman. [crickets]

  23. gery katona

    Oct 8, 2018 at 11:28 am

    Probably a bit of jealousy or racial anonymity in those comments. Shame on Norman. Tiger gets attention because he is the only dynamic player on tour, thus people like to watch him. He also has the whole package, good looking, great smile, well-spoken, etc. And oh, he’s the best golfer as well. We’ve never seen another player like him in our lifetimes.

    • Peter

      Oct 10, 2018 at 5:35 am

      So to critise the broadcasters of bias towards Tiger is racist? Whatever next?

  24. GMatt

    Oct 8, 2018 at 11:23 am

    Once again the “Ugly American” rears their head to reply to someone’s comments. Hey he has an opinion, maybe wrong, maybe right, but the venom spilled here in this “politically correct” age of No Bullying, sure shows our true colors in the world…..

    • Ev

      Oct 9, 2018 at 2:26 am

      Well Matt, just as Norman is allowed to state his opinion so does everyone else in this country! Could it be that you don’t like the majority opinion???
      Lol, this is the land of free speech.

  25. Aztec

    Oct 8, 2018 at 9:06 am

    So…ratings go up when Tiger plays because people want to watch other players? This literally makes no sense.

  26. Golf Golf Golf

    Oct 8, 2018 at 5:56 am

    Let’s fix the headline: “Greg Norman Hates Tiger Woods”

  27. robert

    Oct 8, 2018 at 5:19 am

    Just when it appeared Norman might finally redeem himself from three past failures at Augusta National by making a 30-foot eagle on the 13th hole to take the lead, Olazabal rammed home a birdie putt to tie.

    Afterwards The s*** eating grin of Norman ended his quest as olazabal went on to beat the ego laced norman

  28. James

    Oct 7, 2018 at 8:40 pm

    Norman obviously does not like Tiger. But to drivel out such BS just makes him look stupid.

    • James

      Oct 7, 2018 at 8:59 pm

      P.S. to go with the BS: I won’t be buying any Greg Norman wine. What you say picks up or loses customers.

  29. Jamie

    Oct 7, 2018 at 7:55 pm

    Regardless of how much of a narcissistic DB he is, Norman is right on this. Ignorant bandwagoning is very dangerous and unstabilizing no matter what the issue.

    • Steven St Clair

      Oct 7, 2018 at 9:10 pm

      Get real. Golf is infinitely more interesting with Tiger back in the discussion.

      • Chris UK

        Oct 8, 2018 at 12:17 pm

        That’s the problem, he’s not back in the discussion, it’s the Tiger show again and it’s boring all the time. He’s right, the young guys are better than him…

  30. Mike

    Oct 7, 2018 at 5:17 pm

    In 2 years between 1999 and 2000 Tiger won as many tournaments on the PGA Tour and double the Majors that Greg Norman won in his entire career. Him criticizing Tiger is a joke.

  31. Scheiss

    Oct 7, 2018 at 11:15 am

    He is King of the blowhard egotistical maniacal sociopathic racist self-obsessed Aussie. Such a prototype. I’ve met so many of these cnuts. What an eejit

    • Craig

      Oct 7, 2018 at 6:06 pm

      Thanks, as an aussie, I am not sure who is being racist here??

      • Craig

        Oct 7, 2018 at 6:08 pm

        BTW. I don’t condone what Norman said, it was dumb.

    • Peter

      Oct 7, 2018 at 6:36 pm

      i am an aussie and find that very offensive.

      • CaoNiMa

        Oct 7, 2018 at 10:32 pm

        Your beds are burning.
        Time to give it back


      • Scheiss

        Oct 8, 2018 at 1:54 pm

        C U Next Time. You know what that spells

  32. Mortons Salt

    Oct 7, 2018 at 10:57 am

    So much saltiness here…and I know my salt.

    Greg Norman; the Great White Shank. Says he’s tough but mentally collapsed when holding a lead at The Masters.

    He’s just jealous because:
    A) He never won The Masters
    B) Tiger broke his record for consecutive weeks at World #1

  33. Jay Cee

    Oct 7, 2018 at 9:54 am

    Norman’s a jealous and petty little man. Toot toot Norman, keep blowing your own horn.

  34. Syer Shulver

    Oct 7, 2018 at 8:22 am

    He might not care about Tiger. The World cares less about him. Great Golfer in his prime. But he’s now merely ‘history’……

  35. bj

    Oct 7, 2018 at 7:45 am

    think Norman has Tiger on his Rushmore lol.

  36. Johnny Penso

    Oct 6, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    Norman’s whole comment gives a bit more context:
    “I never feared anything or anyone on the course, and I wasn’t afraid to fail,” said Norman. “So I think I’d do pretty well against Snead, Hogan, Tiger and Phil — whoever. Tiger’s a tough guy, but I was a tough guy on the course, too. I probably would have beat him.”

    Tiger didn’t win every tournament and Norman didn’t lose every tournament. Norman was also number one for 331 weeks so chances are he would have beaten Tiger here or there just like everyone else did.

  37. Get A Clue

    Oct 6, 2018 at 9:16 pm

    Youre probably right Greg. One of the biggest chokers in golf history would have beaten the most clutch and top 2 player of all time…..Said nobody besides you, ever.

    • Get A Clue

      Oct 6, 2018 at 9:22 pm

      And the part about the ratings not being completely due to Tiger is truly one of the dumbest things ive read in a long time.

    • Mike

      Oct 6, 2018 at 9:45 pm

      Norman couldn’t beat the players of his era (an era that was not the ‘strongest’ period of golf talent). How many times did he..choke? 2 Majors, for someone as good as he thinks he was?

  38. Dr Troy

    Oct 6, 2018 at 8:33 pm

    Here we go again with this blow hard, egotistical, JEALOUS, Norman. Your mouth never stops running I see.

  39. Barry Boyd

    Oct 6, 2018 at 7:35 pm

    NEVER liked Norman….heard terrible things about him. But he is correct about this though…golf can survive without Tiger, Tiger Trackers, and disruptive novice golf galleries.

  40. Tom

    Oct 6, 2018 at 7:23 pm

    Nice to see Norman with clothes on again.

  41. K

    Oct 6, 2018 at 6:51 pm

    Good god is he jealous and brutally wrong. One of the worst takes I’ve ever seen

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GolfWRX Morning 9: A “FedEx Cup” for the Tour? | Shots of the year | Tigermania 2018



By Ben Alberstadt (

December 14, 2018

Good Friday morning, golf fans.
1. moving to a points system 
Following approval by the PGA Tour policy board, the Tour will move to a FedEx Cup-like points system in 2019.
  • Golf Channel’s Rex Hoggard…”The PGA Tour policy board approved a provision that will transform how success is measured on the Tour, from earnings to a points-based system similar to that used on the PGA Tour.”
  • “According to a memo sent this week to members, a points-based system – as opposed to prize money – to determine eligibility was widely supported in a player survey in 2017.”
  • “Like the FedExCup format on the PGA Tour, points will be awarded based on a player’s finish, with 500 points going to the winner of regular-season events. The winner of the final regular-season event (WinCo Portland Open) will be awarded 600 points and the circuit’s three Finals events will award 1,000 points to the winner.”

Full piece.

2. Dunhill Championship Update report...”David Lipsky fired a bogey-free 66 to set the clubhouse target and open up a one-shot lead on day two of the Alfred Dunhill Championship.”
  • “The American is making his first appearance at Leopard Creek Country Club this week and an eagle and four birdies moved him to eight under as he made himself right at home.”
  • “Scott Jamieson has two top fives in this event and he continued that form to match Lipsky’s score and sit at seven under alongside fellow Scotsman Marc Warren….Doug McGuigan made seven birdies on the back nine to record the lowest nine holes of the season and make it three Scots in the top four a further shot back.”

Full piece.

3. Speaketh the Shark

While the Greg Norman didn’t watch The Match and was no fan of the spectacle, he would like to see the return of other made-for-T.V. money games.
  • Golfweek’s Kevin Casey quoting Norman…”I thought the Skins Game was a good thing every year because the players had to earn their way into it,” Norman said. “(‘The Match’) was just two players being invited to play. I’d like to see the Skins Game come back in some way, shape or form.”
  • “Norman expounded here, pivoting to the fact there are a lack of mixed men’s and women’s competitions….He pointed to the old JCPenney Classic as an example of how such events can bring intrigue, and that he hopes to see future growth in this realm.”
  • “Those events (mixed men and women) I think should come back on the calendar,” Norman said. “We saw what Lexi Thompson did last week and the year before at the (QBE) Shootout, she did a phenomenal job. Obviously (the women) can hold their own. I’d like to see a little bit more integration with that because you see it a lot in tennis and other sports … I’d like to see something like that happen in golf too.”

Full piece.

4. Shots o’ the year 

Golfweek’s Dan Kilbridge assembles his top 10 shots of the year.

Here are two.

  • “Tiger Woods, British Open…Woods had just taken the lead when his tee shot at No. 10 found a bunker. What he did next was unbelievable to watch in real time and likely the best shot he hit all season.”
  • “Brooks Koepka, PGA Championship…Clinging to a one-shot lead with three holes to play, Koepka pured a 4-iron from 248 yards out and proved he wasn’t going to flinch down the stretch while securing his third career major title.”

Full piece. 

5. Golf success begins at 30?
Golf Digest’s Brian Wacker, on the occasion of Rickie Fowler’s 30th birthday, catalogued a few players whose greatest successes on Tour have come in their third decades.
  • “Phil Mickelson...Lefty is perhaps the modern-day poster boy for hitting your stride in his 30s. It’s easy to forget that he didn’t win his first of five majors until he was 33 at the 2004 Masters. Sure, he picked up 16 titles on tour in his 20s, including one while still an amateur, but he nabbed 23 of his 43 PGA Tour wins, including his other four majors, in his 30s.”
  • “Justin Rose…The Englishman fared a lot worse than Fowler did early on, missing 21 straight cuts his first year as a pro. He recovered just fine, winning twice in the U.S. and four more times on the European Tour in his 20s. But it wasn’t until Rose’s 30s that his career really took off with seven wins on the PGA Tour, including the U.S. Open at Merion, four more on the European Tour, a gold medal in the Olympics and a spot atop the Official World Golf Ranking. And he still has another season-and-a-half before he turns 40.”
  • “Bubba Watson…The long-hitting Watson didn’t even make it to the PGA Tour until he was 27, so naturally most of his success came in his 30s. Watson’s first victory came at 31 at the 2010 Travelers Championship, and he has since added 11 more wins to his résumé, including two Masters titles in 2012 and 2014 as well as a World Golf Championship before turning 40 in November.”
6. Rules crash course
Jason Lusk at Golfweek rounds up 15 rules-related items you need to know for 2015.
  • Here’s one of ’em…”Flagstick…Players will be permitted to leave the flagstick in the hole while playing a shot from the green, and there is no penalty if the ball strikes the flagstick. In the past, players had to pull the flagstick from the hole or have somebody else (a caddie or another golfer) tend and pull the flagstick before the ball struck it.”
  • “This rule was changed to help speed up play, but it might have implications beyond pace of play. For example, PGA Tour player Bryson DeChambeau has said he will leave the flagstick in the hole even on short putts because he believes the flagstick will help keep more shots from racing past the hole. There has been research by several players and students of the game, including by short-game guru Dave Pelz, that claimed players have a statistically better chance of a ball dropping into or coming to rest near the hole if the flag is left in place.”
  • “It still will be against the rules to position the flagstick in such a way as to create a perceived benefit. That is, you can’t intentionally lean the flagstick forward in the hole to try to deflect a ball downward. The flagstick still must be placed upright in the center of the hole unless a player finds that it is leaning in a certain direction when he or she arrives at the green. In that case, the player could leave the flagstick as they find it or center it in the hole.”
7. Update on Bubba’s retirement plans
Via Bunkered…
If you recall...”Not long after winning the 2014 WGC-HSBC Champions, he said he would consider retiring from golf if he got to ten PGA Tour wins….”I’m going to keep trying until I get to ten, and then I’ll switch it from there,” Watson told AP. “Or retire.”
  • But now…“He is now at 12 PGA Tour wins following glory at the WGC-Dell Match Play and Travelers Championship and has set his sights on 15 victories, which could get him into the Hall of Fame.”
  • “Am I Hall of Fame worthy? I’m going to be dead honest with you – it would be the most joyous occasion in my life when it came to the game of golf,” he said. “I can’t tell you if that’s in or not. But my new goal is three more, see if I can get to 15.”
8. Tigermania 2018
Continuing the outlet’s “Newsmakers of the Year” series, Golf Digest’s Joel Beall takes a look back at the readings on the Tigermania meter in 2018.
  • From….”Jan. 4: Announces he’ll start season at Torrey Pines…This wasn’t necessarily a surprise; Woods had played-and more importantly, looked-relatively well a month prior at his Hero World Challenge, and the Farmers Insurance Open served as his opening tournament in 2017. Still, given Woods had appeared in precisely one official PGA Tour event in the previous 29 months, the routine announcement was like the first warm day of winter, offering hope that the long, vapid coldness was coming to an end….Tigermania-meter: Prepare the twirls.”
  • To…”Sept. 23: Wins the Tour Championship…A birdie at the first pushed his lead to four and cranked the crowd volume to 10. The next 13 holes were part golf tournament, part homecoming parade. The issue became slightly in doubt on the 16th and 17th, but a knee-knocker save on the latter sealed the day, transforming the 18th hole into a coronation. The king, back on his throne, marching down the aisle with his people by his side. The greatest comeback since Hogan was complete: Tiger Woods was a winner once again…Tigermania-meter: I’m not crying. You’re crying”

Full piece.

9. $500 set of clubs challenge
Our Trey Buchanan lays out this scenario in a fun piece…”You have a golf trip planned in two weeks. One day after work, you head to your car to hit the range and get some grinding in for the trip. As you walk to your car you notice your car has been broken into and your clubs are gone. Not good. You need new clubs for the trip but aren’t in a position to shell out the $2,000-$3,000 for a brand new set. What are your options? I recommend hitting the used market.”
  • “Every year, thousands of used golf clubs go on the market. Some of the clubs had a rough life and some have barely been hit. As an exercise to see what you can get for your dollar, I browsed one of the web’s largest used golf equipment sites ( with a budget of $500 for a full set of clubs in my specs. What I found was really interesting.”
  • Here’s the big stick he went with...”Driver…Since I play a low loft driver with a low launch, low spin shaft, I knew I was in for a challenge with finding a driver. Once I took a minute to search, I found this beauty of a driver. I remember hitting the Ping G10 back in the day, and it was one of the most forgiving drivers at the time. Plus, it was very close to my specs at standard length, 7.5 degrees, and a mid-launch Grafalloy shaft.”


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GolfWRX Morning 9: Pro overcomes bad math to win | Koepka | Rory may not limit Euro Tour schedule after all



By Ben Alberstadt (

December 13, 2018

Good Thursday morning, golf fans. (featured image credit:
1. Overcoming bad math
Craig Dolch writing for with the details of, a computational error that ultimately worked out in a club pro’s favor at the PGA Tournament Series.
  • “It’s a good thing for Matt Borchert he’s better with his putter than with his math…Borchert thought he had shot a 69 Tuesday and finished a shot behind Bob Sowards until Sowards told him they both had 68s. Borchert re-checked his scorecard and realized his mistake. They were tied at 8-under 136.”
  • “Ten minutes later, Borchert drained a 20-foot birdie putt on the first playoff hole to win Event No. 4 of the PGA Tournament Series at PGA Golf Club. It was the first PGA Tournament Series victory for the PGA Professional at Isleworth Golf & Country Club near Orlando.”
  • “It was too long of a day on the golf course,” Borchert said of the scoring issue. “I was trying to figure out where I stood on 18. I thought we both played great. Bob was solid. I was just lucky to sneak a few more putts in.”
2. Papadatos!
Meanwhile, early at the Alfred Dunhill Championship…
  • report...”Dimitrios Papadatos opened up a one-shot lead over defending champion Brandon Stone as round one of the Alfred Dunhill Championship got under way at Leopard Creek Country Club.”
  • “Papadatos is playing on an invite after narrowly missing out on gaining his card via the PGA Tour of Australasia and made four birdies in his first 12 holes to move to four under.”
  • “Home favourite Stone was also bogey-free after nine holes to sit a shot ahead of Spaniard Adri Arnaus, Scot David Drysdale, Swede Robert Karlsson, Welshman Stuart Manley and South African Erik van Rooyen.”
3. Brooks on top, chip on shoulder
Eamon Lynch examines some of the criticism of Brooks Koepka and the reality as he sees it.
  • “He became the first man in almost 30 years to successfully defend the U.S. Open. At the PGA Championship, he joined Tiger Woods, Jordan Spieth, Rory McIlroy and Padraig Harrington as the only players in the last two decades to win two majors in a season. He was voted Player of the Year, an honor he promptly celebrated by winning the CJ Cup and ascending to No. 1 in the world.”
  • “Anyone else, they’re on the cover of a Wheaties box,” said Claude Harmon III, Koepka’s longtime coach….There won’t be a Wheaties box, of course.”
  • Also…”The lazy rap against Koepka is that he doesn’t win often enough on Tour. The 2015 Waste Management Phoenix Open – the first of his five Tour wins – is his only non-major victory in the U.S. It’s an anomaly that puts him in rarefied statistical company with Andy North as players who have more wins in majors than in regular tournaments. It’s not a ledger imbalance that troubles his team.”
4. Rory to remain European Tour fixture?
Despite suggestions to the contrary…
  • “The Forecaddie is pretty certain Rory McIlroy won’t quit golf’s European Tour in 2019, despite what he said during the DP World Tour Championship, Dubai.”
  • “European Tour chief executive Keith Pelley has taken steps to make sure his star player keeps his status.”
  • If it were to be that I don’t fulfill my membership next year, it’s not a Ryder Cup year so it’s not the end of the world,” he said…Not the end of the world for McIlroy, but pretty close to it for the European Tour and Pelley, The Man Out Front thinks.”
  • “Pelley wasn’t about to hang around to let McIlroy make a decision detrimental to the tour. Pelley jumped on a plane to Northern Ireland and McIlroy’s home in Holywood for an emergency meeting with his star player.”
While nobody knows what was said, it seems Pelley was pleased with the result.
5. Highlights from Valentino Dixon
A few of the best sections of Michael Williams’ excellent interview with Valentino Dixon, who served 27 years in prison for a crime he did not commit – and took up golf course-related artwork as a hobby during that time.
  • On getting started doing golf course art…”Right. Well, I was known as the artist in Attica. I spent, out of the 27 years, I spent 25 of those years in Attica. So over the years I had publicity on my case because the local newspaper had came to believe in my innocence, but there wasn’t a judge in Buffalo that would do anything about it. So the warden and the officers in Attica knew that I was innocent of the crime and would always check in on me and look in and see if I was all right and everything like that, but they knew that I drew also. So the warden came to me one day and asked me could I draw his favorite hole, which was Augusta, the 12th hole at Augusta.”
  • “I’d never golfed before. I mean, I’m from the inner city. So it was like all right, I guess I can do it. I knew nothing about golf. I drew the Augusta 12th hole. He loved it. Other inmates loved it and one of the inmates encouraged me to draw more golf holes. I said, “What are you talking about? What for? That doesn’t even makes sense.” He says, “I love the golf course, I think you should draw more.” He planted the seed.”
  • “A week later I went around and I got some old golf magazines, Golf Digest magazines, and I start pulling out the pictures that I loved. The guy gave me some really old ones that he had in his cell. So I start pulling out the ones that I liked, the ones that I thought was pretty and then from there I started drawing them. Whenever I put my mind into something, I just go in and really hard. So for months and months, all I did was draw golf courses. Okay. “
  • “Eventually I started reading the columns out of the Golf Digest magazine and I came across Max Adler’s, called Golf Saved My Life. I kind of put the two together because it was like golf was saving my life because being there was really, really stressful and hard and every day was a challenge. I have friends that committed suicide. I didn’t know if I was going to be the next person that my mind was going to snap.”
6. The Rexys!
Rex Hoggard handed out his (annual?) Rexy Awards for outstanding achievements in the world of golf.
Here are two
  • Enigma Award. It was an eventful year for Patrick Reed….He won the Masters for his first major and unabashedly torched his former team partner Jordan Spieth and U.S. captain Jim Furyk following the Americans’ loss at the Ryder Cup….”The issue is obviously with Jordan not wanting to play with me,” Reed told the New York Times, adding, “For somebody as successful in the Ryder Cup as I am, I don’t think it’s smart to sit me twice.”…You know the deal; it’s not me, it’s him. But if we learned anything about the former “Captain America,” it’s that there is definitely an ‘I’ in Patrick.”
  • “Armageddon Award. Just after 8 a.m. on Jan. 13, a quiet Saturday in Hawaii was shattered by an emergency message sent to cell phones across the islands: “BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND TO HAWAII. SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.”
  • “It would take 38 minutes for officials to confirm to the public that the message was a false alarm. For those preparing for the third round of the Sony Open, it felt like an eternity…Jordan Spieth said he hid in his bathtub for a few moments before giving up on his “shelter” plan. “I just felt stupid,” he admitted.”
  • “But the award for having the best attitude when faced with the end of the world goes to Charles Howell III, who told reporters, “We sort of looked at one another. Part of you thinks you grab a Mai Tai, go to the beach and grab a front-row seat. Part of you thinks what are you going to do?”
7. GolfTV signs European Tour deal
Sports Pro Media report...”The wide-ranging deal with European Tour includes international multi-platform live rights, in selected territories, to all European Tour events and the next two Ryder Cups, as well as Discovery collaborating to further grow the golf body’s digital platforms. The partnership will bring coverage of the European Tour and Ryder Cup together on GolfTV.”
“From January 2019, Discovery will hold exclusive European Tour linear and digital rights in major markets including Italy, Romania, Russia,and Turkey. Additionally, GolfTV has digital streaming rights in Germany, Austria and Switzerland.  Portugal, Balkan countries, Eurasia, India, Latin America, Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore and a number of territories in Asia.”
8. The Ryder Cup is never over
Shane Ryan points out the competition has swelled in scale, as has the hype. Is this a good thing?
  • A morsel…”There are approximately 20 phases to a modern Ryder Cup cycle-scholars disagree on the exact total-and while I won’t bore you by listing them out here, I will say that somewhere around Phase 9 or 10, there is a three-day golf exhibition. The rest of the phases revolve around this event, and they range from aimless speculation to strategy to pre-tournament second-guessing to shock to dread to post-tournament second-guessing to lengthy evaluations to national hand-wringing to dramatic but ultimately feckless reform … and back again.”
  • “The cycle lasts exactly two years, and although the 20-ish phases encompass an impressive and diverse array of existential conditions, there is absolutely no phase called “nothing is happening right now” or “hey, the next Cup is two years away, why are we worried about this?” or “seriously, we’re not talking about the Ryder Cup for at least a month, please leave me alone.” It’s rumored that such a phase existed once, in the fog of history, but in the current golf climate, the Ryder Cup is as ubiquitous as an American election-it’s never over, even when it’s over. Especially when it’s over.”
9. Maybe stagger the announcements, Rolex/PR folks?
(also, earthquake) The below via D.A. Points on Twitter.
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Kevin Kisner reveals the level of hatred former college teammates have for Patrick Reed



Patrick Reed hasn’t made many new friends recently after he was the fulcrum of the messy fallout after the USA’s heavy defeat in the 2018 Ryder Cup. Reed’s outspokenness at the time didn’t provoke Tour players to voice their personal opinion on the current Masters Champion, but this week Kevin Kisner aired a stark revelation of how the Texan is view by his former college teammates.

Speaking to Golf Digest, Kisner talked about the level of animosity that Reed’s ex-college teammates still have for him, stating

“They all hate him — any guys that were on the team with him (at Georgia) hate him and that’s the same way at Augusta. I don’t know that they’d piss on him if he was on fire, to tell you the truth.”

In a book written in 2016 by author Shane Ryan, it was revealed that there had been cheating and stealing accusations leveled against Reed from his teammates at Georgia while he was playing for the university. Reed denied the claims, though was subsequently removed from the team in 2009.

It’s worth noting that, Kisner, though a graduate of the University of Georgia, did not attend the school at the same time as Reed, and none of Reed’s teammates from his time in college, including Tour pros Brian Harman, Harris English, and Russell Henley would confirm Kisner’s view to Golf Digest.

Kisner’s revelation comes after an anonymous member of the U.S. Ryder Cup side told the New York Times after this year’s team event that Reed “is so full of shit” and that the 28-year-old “has no clue how to play team golf”.

Reed held his tongue following those incendiary remarks, but whether or not he will do the same after Kisner’s statement remains to be seen.



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