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Greg Norman and Tiger Woods have never had the best of relationships, with the Australian once stating how despite living less than half a mile from each other, neither man had said a word to each other in over ten years. Norman has also not been afraid to take public jabs at Woods in the past.

In 2013, Norman claimed that he would have gotten the better of Woods had they competed against each other, saying: “Tiger’s a tough guy, but I was a tough guy on the course, too. I probably would have beat him,” while earlier this year he stated with regards to Woods’ comeback: “I don’t care how Tiger does.”

Despite not caring how Woods performs, the two-time major champion once again has chosen to speak publicly about Tiger, explaining how he would hate to see golf  “get lost again in that Tiger talk.”

Speaking on the Yahoo Finance Sportsbook podcast, Norman stated:

“I hope they don’t put all their eggs in one basket again and be all Tiger and forget about all this other wonderful, fantastic talent even coming out of Korea and Japan and South Africa and Australia. Unbelievable amount of talent bubbling up around the world, and I’d hate to see them get lost again in that Tiger talk.”

Norman also had a unique take on the effect Woods has on the TV ratings. The Australian believes the reason behind the rating increase when Woods plays is not because he moves the needle, but his ability to bring out the best in his more talented peers.

“TV ratings are up because of what Tiger Woods does to every other player. It’s not just about the one player; it’s about all the supporting cast who are equal if not better than him. He’s just pulling them along to make them more standout.”

A very curious take from Norman indeed, especially when you consider that just two weeks ago all of Woods’ close competitors folded on Sunday afternoon as Woods waltzed to PGA Tour win number 80 of his career.

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  1. John Papadakis

    Oct 11, 2018 at 11:25 am

    Norman is a loser.. His products/play and behavior all demonstrate that. I guess the news people could not find anybody worthwhile to talk to this day. His comments are just plain ridiculous.

  2. Tony

    Oct 10, 2018 at 6:06 am

    We all love Tiger. We want to see him play every shot. We just don’t want to see him scratching his bum, picking his nose, lobbing gollys on the turf, and discussing 5 club selection possibilities with Joe. There are other golfers out there too.

  3. Jay Davis

    Oct 9, 2018 at 9:31 am

    He’s always been a hater of great golfer’s. Maybe he needs to take a back seat and be quiet and just watch what he can’t do anymore. Play great golf.

  4. El Hanna Thomas

    Oct 9, 2018 at 8:20 am

    Mr Normans continuous negative commentary comes from a deep place in his heart that won’t allow him to say nice things about tiger. Maybe tiger stanned him and didn’t sign one of those stupid Bermuda style cowboy hats Greg likes to wear so much Lol.

  5. Marsha Densmore

    Oct 9, 2018 at 2:53 am

    I remember the Sunday that Greg went in 11 up in the lead, Nope he didn’t win. If Tiger was ahead by 11 you know he’s going to win.. Greg you never had what Tiger has, never! I loved the why the people rusted the course when Tiger won. Never seen that before, loved it. I don’t know if anyone can bring to golf what Tiger has. I’m happy what he bring, the players are too!

  6. Mike

    Oct 8, 2018 at 10:45 pm

    Greg Norman seems to be the only person in the world who isn’t aware that he’s known as a choker. For him to say he’s tough and would have beaten Tiger shows that he has an unrealistic view of himself. Tiger is by far the best closer in history. Norman doesn’t realize that he just gave the entire golfing public a big laugh.

    • Marsha Densmore

      Oct 9, 2018 at 2:57 am

      Remember the Sunday Greg was up by 11, no he didn’t win….

      • Pete

        Oct 9, 2018 at 5:07 am

        And shot 40 on the back nine at the ‘86 PGA… but yeah, Bob put it in from the bunker…

    • chris

      Nov 18, 2018 at 7:39 am

  7. Eric McDade

    Oct 8, 2018 at 10:15 pm

    Norman and his good buddy Donald Trump both living in alternate realities. What a joke.

  8. Bill S.

    Oct 8, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    Greg, please go play with your new chainsaw.

  9. Tom

    Oct 8, 2018 at 8:22 pm

    Norman is an irrelevant choker… He couldn’t carry Tiger’s bag on his best day!

    • John

      Nov 5, 2018 at 12:06 pm

      Choker, yeah? 91 tournament victories in Norman’s pro career, playing in an era where he found himself competing with the likes of Ballesteros, Nicklaus, Watson and Faldo. He may not have been as good as Woods but according to Woods fans NO ONE is as good as Woods so why say it? The way you guys talk you’d think you were all better than Norman.

  10. Glftips

    Oct 8, 2018 at 4:04 pm

    I live near them both. Norman is not well liked and was thrown out of The Medalist because he is such a jerk. Clearly he is jealous of Tiger’s record and the attention he has received.

    • Tjdoty72

      Oct 8, 2018 at 4:18 pm

      Couldn’t agree more! If he really think that everyone was tune into see all the supporting cast he is a complete idiot. And I always liked Greg norman but that is the most ridiculous explanation to the rating increase I have ever heard. He obviously lacks the simple intellect to use basic correlation common sense!!! Tiger gone = LOW Ratings / Tiger Present = VERY HIGH Ratings!!! Not real hard to figure out what drives ratings Greg!!!

  11. Jack Nash

    Oct 8, 2018 at 3:34 pm

    Totally understand where Norman’s coming from. When Woods had his comeback it was 24/7 Woods on GC. It shouldn’t been taken as a negative for somebody expressing his opinion. Once you bad mouth him it’s time to look in the mirror. Woods has done a lot for the game but there’s more than 1 player that keeps golf where it is. Golf didn’t disappear when Woods was gone. Many, many great young players have shown what they have. They’ve won majors and will keep going. That’s if you get to hear about them on GC if Woods is in the same Tourney.

    • Robert Harte

      Oct 9, 2018 at 9:39 am

      I agree. Greg’s comments are more bashing the media than Tiger. I realized recently that except for his use of foul language I didn’t dislike Tiger. I really disliked the way the announcers ignored all the other player while making comments about Tigers like lovesick teenagers.

  12. Thomas Horonzy

    Oct 8, 2018 at 3:24 pm

    Two majors vs fourteen. If they were to play I’d be betting on the Big Cat. As for ratings, he may bring the play of others up but they still have problems beating him. Think about it. Gone for five years, he has what eight top tens including two runner-ups including the Open plus a win. Who else has done anything close to that save for the Wee Mon. Sorry, Greg. There is a strong bias in your camp. Hopefully, it is jealousy and not prejudice.

  13. kevin bayer

    Oct 8, 2018 at 2:26 pm

    I don’t know who is more jealous, this guy or Johnny miller.

  14. Buck Buckner

    Oct 8, 2018 at 2:25 pm

    Tiger talk is a bore.

  15. C

    Oct 8, 2018 at 2:17 pm

    The most jealous golfer in the history of the sport!!!

  16. Tom54

    Oct 8, 2018 at 1:35 pm

    Love him or hate him,you have to agree that tv coverage when Tiger is playing is a bit over the top. I do not think Norman is criticizing Tiger by stating what happens. The announcers practically trip over themselves to constantly tell us about Tiger as if he’s the only one in the field. I like Tiger just as much as the next person, but please don’t overlook all the other talent just because he’s playing this week. Arnie retired,Jack retired,and one day Tiger will exit the stage too. Golf will carry on as always.

    • Paul Neil

      Oct 8, 2018 at 2:23 pm

      But not soon enough for me. The coverage is biased towards him I for one turn it off. Ithink they are all on his payroll.

      • Mike

        Oct 8, 2018 at 4:07 pm

        Paul, I think you are correct! They are all on his payroll and stated another way, thanks to Tiger their payrolls are MUCH larger!

    • Mike

      Oct 8, 2018 at 10:51 pm

      I can tell you that since Tiger’s retutn
      1. I know a dozen people who purchased the PGA Tour Live app so they can watch Tigers early rounds.
      2. My phone blows up with texts and txt threads when he’s playing.
      3. I was in a tent after a golf tournament I play in every year the Sunday of the tour championship and there were a hundred guys going crazy watching him on the big screen they had in there. I’ve never seen that kind of reaction to any other player winning a tournament.
      The haters don’t realize that Tigers the only person most people care about.

    • Anthony Welch

      Oct 10, 2018 at 5:56 am

      Probably the most sensible comment in this forum.

  17. Me

    Oct 8, 2018 at 12:28 pm

    The only thing Norman was ever good at was chasing women. He probably learned from his partner in crime, Bill Clinton. Otherwise Norman was an overrated choke artist who never met a major he didn’t lose.

    • Curtis Carter Jr.

      Oct 8, 2018 at 1:46 pm

      ME, Have you forgotten about the Waffle House waitress(es) that Tiger has bagged? I would not claim that Greg’s winning record is anywhere near Tiger’s — I just agree with Greg that, when Tiger is playing, the TV coverage of him is too fawning and overbearing, to the exclusion of most of the other very talented players in the field.

  18. Tom

    Oct 8, 2018 at 12:22 pm

    I agree with Norman. I was turned off by the golf coverage when woods was winning and it has started again. 90% of the coverage has been on woods since he came back. I may have to start watching bowling.

  19. joro

    Oct 8, 2018 at 12:20 pm

    WOW, he and Azinger sure brought out the weenie tiger rappers. Now for Norman, what planet does he live on to think he would have beaten Tiger. The guy is getting more and more off balance every time he opens his Pie hole. My God Greg, go out and do something.

  20. Boyo

    Oct 8, 2018 at 11:45 am

    Tiger would bury you like the stinking choking dog that you are.

  21. Scott

    Oct 8, 2018 at 11:41 am

    Norman is a bitter egomaniacal piece of dog excrement.

    I could tell you stories about that jerk from when I volunteered at the Buick Open in the 90’s. Miserable nasty wretch of a man.

  22. Greg

    Oct 8, 2018 at 11:30 am

    His own opinion of himself aside, isn’t it telling that no one puts Norman in the top 10 golfers of all time? Why? Because despite being No. 1 in the word for 331 weeks, he only won two majors. Two. Larry Mize beat him. Bob Tway beat him. And yet, he seriously contends that with both of them in their prime, he was the better golfer. Other than total driving, name me one area of the game where Tiger wasn’t markedly superior to Norman. [crickets]

  23. gery katona

    Oct 8, 2018 at 11:28 am

    Probably a bit of jealousy or racial anonymity in those comments. Shame on Norman. Tiger gets attention because he is the only dynamic player on tour, thus people like to watch him. He also has the whole package, good looking, great smile, well-spoken, etc. And oh, he’s the best golfer as well. We’ve never seen another player like him in our lifetimes.

    • Peter

      Oct 10, 2018 at 5:35 am

      So to critise the broadcasters of bias towards Tiger is racist? Whatever next?

  24. GMatt

    Oct 8, 2018 at 11:23 am

    Once again the “Ugly American” rears their head to reply to someone’s comments. Hey he has an opinion, maybe wrong, maybe right, but the venom spilled here in this “politically correct” age of No Bullying, sure shows our true colors in the world…..

    • Ev

      Oct 9, 2018 at 2:26 am

      Well Matt, just as Norman is allowed to state his opinion so does everyone else in this country! Could it be that you don’t like the majority opinion???
      Lol, this is the land of free speech.

  25. Aztec

    Oct 8, 2018 at 9:06 am

    So…ratings go up when Tiger plays because people want to watch other players? This literally makes no sense.

  26. Golf Golf Golf

    Oct 8, 2018 at 5:56 am

    Let’s fix the headline: “Greg Norman Hates Tiger Woods”

  27. robert

    Oct 8, 2018 at 5:19 am

    Just when it appeared Norman might finally redeem himself from three past failures at Augusta National by making a 30-foot eagle on the 13th hole to take the lead, Olazabal rammed home a birdie putt to tie.

    Afterwards The s*** eating grin of Norman ended his quest as olazabal went on to beat the ego laced norman

  28. James

    Oct 7, 2018 at 8:40 pm

    Norman obviously does not like Tiger. But to drivel out such BS just makes him look stupid.

    • James

      Oct 7, 2018 at 8:59 pm

      P.S. to go with the BS: I won’t be buying any Greg Norman wine. What you say picks up or loses customers.

  29. Jamie

    Oct 7, 2018 at 7:55 pm

    Regardless of how much of a narcissistic DB he is, Norman is right on this. Ignorant bandwagoning is very dangerous and unstabilizing no matter what the issue.

    • Steven St Clair

      Oct 7, 2018 at 9:10 pm

      Get real. Golf is infinitely more interesting with Tiger back in the discussion.

      • Chris UK

        Oct 8, 2018 at 12:17 pm

        That’s the problem, he’s not back in the discussion, it’s the Tiger show again and it’s boring all the time. He’s right, the young guys are better than him…

  30. Mike

    Oct 7, 2018 at 5:17 pm

    In 2 years between 1999 and 2000 Tiger won as many tournaments on the PGA Tour and double the Majors that Greg Norman won in his entire career. Him criticizing Tiger is a joke.

  31. Scheiss

    Oct 7, 2018 at 11:15 am

    He is King of the blowhard egotistical maniacal sociopathic racist self-obsessed Aussie. Such a prototype. I’ve met so many of these cnuts. What an eejit

    • Craig

      Oct 7, 2018 at 6:06 pm

      Thanks, as an aussie, I am not sure who is being racist here??

      • Craig

        Oct 7, 2018 at 6:08 pm

        BTW. I don’t condone what Norman said, it was dumb.

    • Peter

      Oct 7, 2018 at 6:36 pm

      i am an aussie and find that very offensive.

      • CaoNiMa

        Oct 7, 2018 at 10:32 pm

        Your beds are burning.
        Time to give it back

        lol

      • Scheiss

        Oct 8, 2018 at 1:54 pm

        C U Next Time. You know what that spells

  32. Mortons Salt

    Oct 7, 2018 at 10:57 am

    So much saltiness here…and I know my salt.

    Greg Norman; the Great White Shank. Says he’s tough but mentally collapsed when holding a lead at The Masters.

    He’s just jealous because:
    A) He never won The Masters
    B) Tiger broke his record for consecutive weeks at World #1

  33. Jay Cee

    Oct 7, 2018 at 9:54 am

    Norman’s a jealous and petty little man. Toot toot Norman, keep blowing your own horn.

  34. Syer Shulver

    Oct 7, 2018 at 8:22 am

    He might not care about Tiger. The World cares less about him. Great Golfer in his prime. But he’s now merely ‘history’……

  35. bj

    Oct 7, 2018 at 7:45 am

    think Norman has Tiger on his Rushmore lol.

  36. Johnny Penso

    Oct 6, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    Norman’s whole comment gives a bit more context:
    “I never feared anything or anyone on the course, and I wasn’t afraid to fail,” said Norman. “So I think I’d do pretty well against Snead, Hogan, Tiger and Phil — whoever. Tiger’s a tough guy, but I was a tough guy on the course, too. I probably would have beat him.”

    Tiger didn’t win every tournament and Norman didn’t lose every tournament. Norman was also number one for 331 weeks so chances are he would have beaten Tiger here or there just like everyone else did.

  37. Get A Clue

    Oct 6, 2018 at 9:16 pm

    Youre probably right Greg. One of the biggest chokers in golf history would have beaten the most clutch and top 2 player of all time…..Said nobody besides you, ever.

    • Get A Clue

      Oct 6, 2018 at 9:22 pm

      And the part about the ratings not being completely due to Tiger is truly one of the dumbest things ive read in a long time.

    • Mike

      Oct 6, 2018 at 9:45 pm

      Norman couldn’t beat the players of his era (an era that was not the ‘strongest’ period of golf talent). How many times did he..choke? 2 Majors, for someone as good as he thinks he was?

  38. Dr Troy

    Oct 6, 2018 at 8:33 pm

    Here we go again with this blow hard, egotistical, JEALOUS, Norman. Your mouth never stops running I see.

  39. Barry Boyd

    Oct 6, 2018 at 7:35 pm

    NEVER liked Norman….heard terrible things about him. But he is correct about this though…golf can survive without Tiger, Tiger Trackers, and disruptive novice golf galleries.

  40. Tom

    Oct 6, 2018 at 7:23 pm

    Nice to see Norman with clothes on again.

  41. K

    Oct 6, 2018 at 6:51 pm

    Good god is he jealous and brutally wrong. One of the worst takes I’ve ever seen

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Morning 9: Spiething again? | Daly requests cart for The Open | Ben Hogan doc coming

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By Ben Alberstadt (ben.alberstadt@golfwrx.com)

May 24, 2019

Good Friday morning, golf fans.
1. Finau leads, Spieth 1 back at Colonial
AP report…”If Jordan Spieth is going to end a victory drought that’s approaching two years, he picked a good place to give himself a chance.”
  • “Spieth opened with a 5-under 65 at the Charles Schwab Challenge on Thursday in his second Texas homecoming in three weeks — coming off his best finish of the season at the PGA Championship — and trailed Tony Finau by one shot. Roger Sloan joined Spieth in the tie for second.”
  • “Back when he was collecting trophies regularly three years ago, Spieth won on the cozy course made famous by Ben Hogan, and that was between a pair of second-place finishes in Fort Worth. So when it comes to feeling good about his game, Spieth’s in the right place, just a few miles from his hometown of Dallas.”
2. Meanwhile, at Oak Hill
AP report…”Scott Parel took advantage of ideal scoring conditions Thursday morning to shoot a 4-under 66 and take the first-round lead in the weather-delayed Senior PGA Championship.”
  • “The gusting afternoon wind, which buffeted flags and shook hospitality tents across Oak Hill Country Club’s East Course, hadn’t yet fully arrived when Parel closed with birdies on the par-4 17th and 18th. Retief Goosen, Marco Dawson and Ken Tanigawa were a stroke back.”
  • “The round was completed just before 9 p.m., about a half-hour after the sun set, and 14 hours after the first group teed off. The long day was the result of late-morning thunderstorms that caused a delay of 2 hours, 15 minutes.”
3. Bronte!
And another AP report…“Bronte Law chipped in for eagle on the par-5 third hole and shot a 6-under 65 on Thursday for a share of the lead in the Pure Silk Championship with Anna Nordqvist and Jennifer Song.”
  • “Law added a birdie on the par-4 seventh – her 16th hole in a bogey-free round at windy Kingsmill Resort.”
  • ”Started finding myself with a good score. Nothing more to it,” Law said. ”On days like this when it’s windy just got to keep grinding all day, take the chances when they come.”
4. Finau’s grip switch paying dividends…
Tony Finau is in the grips of the claw…
PGATour.com’s Mike McAllister with Finau’s remarks…
  • “It’s something that I’ve kind of been thinking,” said Finau, who entered this week ranked T-100 in Strokes Gained: Putting this season. “It’s an itch I wanted to scratch … To me, it was just perfect time. … If I feel like something is better, I’m not afraid to change, no matter the results.”
  • “In truth, the move to the claw may not be as dramatic as it seemed. Finau said he often has practiced with the claw in order to make sure his left hand is in the proper position.”
  • “I’m left-hand dominant when I roll the stick,” he explained. “I used to putt cross-handed for about five years. Been putting conventionally now for a couple years.
  • “But I just wanted to switch it up. I haven’t been putting great … Standing over the ball, the most important thing is, do you feel like you’re going to make the putt or not? Outside of everything else, do you believe you can make the putt?
5. Strong start for (Edoardo) Molinari…
After 1 in Denmark…
  • “Edoardo Molinari will take a share of the lead into day two of the Made in Denmark presented by FREJA after high winds made scoring tricky in round one at Himmerland Golf & Spa Resort.”
  • “The three time European Tour winner had got to seven under but, as the winds increased, he gave up two late bogeys to sign for a 66 and a share of the lead at five under alongside Spaniard Alejandro Cañizares and English trio Tom Murray, Matthew Southgate and Paul Waring.”
  • “Defending champion Matt Wallace – fresh off finishing third at the US PGA Championship – was in the group at four under, with 46 players within three shots of the lead.”

Full European Tour report.

 

6. Ben Hogan doc
Geoff Shackelford discusses the upcoming Golf Channel documentary about the Hawk…
  • “Producer Israel DeHerrera kindly let me screen parts of Hogan knowing my affinity for all things Ben Hogan and research into the Hawk’s Los Angeles years. All I can say: it’s the film you hoped would be delivered on Hogan’s incredible life and times.”
  • And a bit of the press release…
  • “Hogan (trailer), a two-part biopic on 64-time PGA TOUR winner Ben Hogan chronicles one of the greatest comeback stories in sports history, reflecting on the Texan’s indelible impact on professional golf in spite of a near-fatal automobile accident that put the prime years of his career in serious jeopardy. Coming from humble beginnings, the film examines Hogan’s incredible journey to becoming one of the greatest golfers of all-time, serving as the inspiration for the 1951 motion picture “Follow the Sun”. Being presented with limited commercial interruption by Charles Schwab, Hogan’s two parts – Monday night’s “Perseverance” and Tuesday night’s “Perfection” – will be narrated by Emmy Award-winning actor Kyle Chandler, and be produced for GOLF Films by 13-time Emmy Award winner Israel DeHerrera.”
7. Monahan talks gambling again
Golfweek’s Dan Kilbridge…
  • “Speaking at the Sports Business Awards Wednesday night, Monahan implied the Tour is working on new gambling developments that will be announced by the end of the year.
  • We’ve spent a lot of time over the last two and a half years clearly understanding all of our options and getting ourselves in a position where we can participate,” Monahan said. “Participate with the right partners, and participate in a way that we think resonates with fans. Without getting in front of it, I think you can expect to hear developments from us in the second half of this year.”
  • “The Tour has been testing an upgraded version of its data system called ShotLink Plus, according to Sport Techie, and Monahan has already announced a deal with IMG Arena to distribute data directly to betting operators.”
8. Daly requests cart for Open
Golf Channel’s Will Gray…”After driving his way around Bethpage Black last week, John Daly has submitted another request to use a cart when The Open heads to Royal Portrush this summer.”
  • “Daly petitioned the PGA of America under the Americans with Disabilities Act for the use of a cart at last week’s PGA Championship, citing his ailing right knee. While a similar request for the U.S. Senior Open was denied last summer by the USGA, he was approved by the PGA and used a cart en route to rounds of 75-76 and a missed cut on Long Island.”
  • “We have received a request from John Daly to use a buggy at The Open, and it is currently under consideration,” said an R&A spokesperson.
9. Heckuva putting performance
Golf Digest’s Alex Myers points out that…“Starting on Colonial’s back nine, Spieth was four under through eight holes before a double bogey on No. 18. But while big numbers have been derailing the 25-year-old Texan all season, he rallied to make four more birdies (against one bogey) on the back nine, including one on his final hole after knocking an approach shot to six feet on the par-4 ninth.
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Tony Finau goes to the claw grip; fires a 64 to take the early lead at Colonial CC

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Tony Finau tied his lowest round of the year on Thursday at the Charles Schwab Challenge, and the impressive opening was fueled by a move to the claw grip on the greens.

Finau’s 64 has put him on top of the leaderboard after day one at Colonial Country Club, and after his opening round, Finau explained to reporters the reason behind the change-up on the greens this week, stating

“I just wanted to switch it up. I haven’t been putting great I feel like, and standing over the ball the most important thing is do you feel like you’re going to make the putt or not. Outside of everything else, do you believe you can make the putt? So for me, I needed to switch something.”

The switch proved very effective on Thursday, as Finau gained over three strokes on the greens on a day where the American managed to hit just three fairways in total.

Finau previously used the cross-hand technique on the greens earlier in his career for a period of five years, but this is the first time the 29-year-old has made the change to the claw grip in tournament action despite using the technique at times on the practice green.

Sitting T100 for strokes gained: putting this season, Finau told the media on Thursday that the time was right for a change this week at Colonial CC, saying

“But I just wanted to switch it up. I haven’t been putting great. I needed to switch something. Decided to try the claw today and it worked out. If I feel like something is better, I’m not afraid to change no matter the results. I’ve been playing OK. I feel like it was just time. Like I said, I think it was just time to scratch that itch and see how it goes.”

Finau begins his second round of the Charles Schwab Challenge today at 12.44 PM ET alongside Brian Harmon and Patton Kizzire.

 

 

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Morning 9: What clubs would a mid-handicap hit at a major? | NCAA Women’s champs | Marty Jertson speaks

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By Ben Alberstadt (ben.alberstadt@golfwrx.com)

May 23, 2019

Good Thursday morning, golf fans.
1. What clubs would a mid-handicap hit at a major?
Cool stuff from Golf Digest’s E. Michael Johnson…
  • “A USGA study once suggested that average golfers only hit the green from the rough 13 percent of the time. But that was data collected at a resort course, not major championship rough. It’s probably safe to say that the average chopper would never hit the green from the rough at any distance that required a full swing. Indeed, Cobra Connect’s data from Arccos shows that an Average Joe hits the green only a third of the time with only his 8- and 9-iron and his wedges, clubs he’d only be using on Bethpage Black’s two par 5s. Maybe.”
  • “In fact, according to the numbers, he would only hit the green on about one in four chances with his 6- and 7-irons, one in six chances with his 5-iron, one in eight chances with his 4-iron and just one in 10 chances with a 3-hybrid. And about that 3-wood? According to the numbers, the average golfer’s GIR percentage with that club, as they say, has no grade point average.”
  • “All of those missed greens (and the attendant tragic golf despair and perhaps some measure of physical injury) then would be compounded further by plenty of around-the-green misadventures and misplays. Arccos data suggests the average 15-handicap gets up and down less than one in five times. Furthering this ugliness would be all those 3-putts, which Arccos data suggests might happen on at least four holes a round, particularly at major championship speeds.”
An example of the calculations…
1st hole, par 4, 430 yards
Koepka: Driver, half-lob wedge
Average Joe: Driver, 3-wood
2nd hole, par 4, 389 yards
Koepka: 4-iron, gap wedge
Average Joe: Driver, 6-iron
2. NCAA Women’s champs
Golfweek’s Adam Woodard with the report…“For the seventh time in program history, Duke is the 2019 NCAA Div. I Women’s Golf National Champion after defeating Wake Forest 3-2 in an all-ACC final match at Blessings Golf Club.”
  • “I couldn’t feel more proud than I do right now,” said Duke head coach Dan Brooks. “We’ve had a tough team all year long and they were tough this week.”
  • “It was Duke’s anchor, Ana Belac, who put the first point on the board in the national championship match. The Blue Devil junior defeated Wake Forest freshman Vanessa Knecht 5&3 to give Duke the early lead.”
3. A confident Spieth following PGA
Golfweek’s Steve Dimeglio…”His history bodes well as Spieth seeks his 12th PGA Tour title. And his solid performance in last week’s PGA Championship at Bethpage Black restored some much sought after confidence and has him energized at Colonial.”
  • “This is the best I’ve felt in quite a while. I’m very happy,” Spieth said after he tied for third in the PGA Championship, six shots behind victor Brooks Koepka.
  • “…But on a course that favored bangers like Koepka and fellow Bash Brother Dustin Johnson, who finished second, Spieth rode four days of strong putting and worthy iron play to get into contention on the weekend.”
  • “I knew that it was unlikely on this golf course that I was going to have a chance to win, and that’s a humbling feeling for me,” Spieth said. “But I knew that if I played the course the right way, had the right mentality, kept putting the way I’ve been putting, that I would be in it and having a chance to make some noise.
4. Oak Hill weather
AP Report…“It didn’t take long for Jay Haas to be reminded of how gusting winds can wreak havoc on players attempting to navigate the narrow fairways of Oak Hill Country Club’s East Course.”
  • ‘”Got here on Sunday night and played nine holes Monday, and it was blowing, what, 25, 30 (miles per hour),” Haas said with a laugh Wednesday, a day before the Senior PGA Championship opens.’
  • “In some ways, the 65-year-old’s experience was no different than his previous visit to the Rochester suburbs 11 years ago. That’s when Haas overcame frigid conditions, heavy wind gusts and a one-stroke final-round deficit to finish with a 7-over 287 and win his second Senior PGA title.”
5. Johnny’s back
Our Gianni Magliocco...”Johnny Miller is back sharing his opinions on the game on Callaway’s new podcast: Real Golf Talk, which aired its first episode today (listen here on Soundcloud).”
  • “The longtime NBC golf announcer retired from broadcasting earlier this year, but Miller now features alongside avid golfer and television host Chris Harrison on the podcast, which will air six episodes in 2019 and eight in future seasons.”
6. Marty speaks!
Good stuff from PGATour.com’s Andrew Tursky talking with Ping’s (now legendary?) Marty Jertson…
  • Tursky: “Can you describe how tough the conditions were on the weekend, and put those weekend rounds into perspective? Like, what would say a 5-handicap shoot out there?”
  • Jertson: “Oh man. My caddie and I were talking about that a lot… ‘What would a scratch golfer shoot? What would a 5-handicap shoot out there?’ Let me put it this way: We had a hard time finding the golf balls in the rough with an army of spotters. So if you played by the real rules of golf where you had 3 minutes to look for your golf ball and you put a 5-handicapper out there, no joke I think they would shoot – if they followed the textbook rules – they would shoot 120 or more, because they would be losing so many golf balls in the rough and you only have 3 minutes to find it. Yeah, it was brutal. The ultimate test of precision and accuracy in terms of… you had to hit it both long and straight. You couldn’t do one or the other. You had to have both. That’s why I think some of the commentators and whatnot really like that style of golf.”
7. GolfWRX chats with Ryan Palmer
JN: Do you have a home field advantage here at Colonial?
RP: To a point, I guess. Obviously, I have played this golf course in every type of wind. I mean, I know certain holes play shorter than they are. So, a little bit of an advantage because I don’t put much stress into the golf course itself. I just know it. And of course, James, my caddie, knows it. And that is nice. But I do put more pressure on myself because I want to play well here
  • JN: What are your thoughts on not having a full bag club sponsorship?
  • RP: It is just a matter of playing with what I like. When I first got on tour, you would sign a full deal and it was pretty good. Now you are signing for balls and all 14 clubs. I love the Taylor Made driver but they cut out the driver only deals. They went just full line. Fortunately, with the help of Mike Chisholm and Chisholm Sports, I have some great corporate partners. United Rentals, a great deal with Unisys, RBC. I am able to have these corporate sponsors allow me to play what I want. I made some comments like ‘two hundred grand is not worth an equipment contract on tour because of what you can make that week.’
  • So, I got ribbed a little bit for making that comment but honestly it is not worth it in today’s game. We play for so much money now each and every week that by the time you get a $200,000 deal, you’re paying taxes and management, at the end of the day its worth a top 20-finish. And then you have to play those clubs all year long, whether you like them or not. So now I can play whatever putter or iron or driver I want. I am only under contract with ball, shoes and gloves. Footjoy and Titleist. I test and I tinker now and then but I always go back to what I have performed with in the past. I stand over a tee shot and I think, I know I hit this driver this way at this tournament at this particular moment. Why would I change?
8. Why it was great: Bridgestone’s J33R driver
For your viewing pleasure, a new video series from GolfWRX in general and equipment expert Ryan Barath in particular.
  • This video series breaks down why certain clubs maintain such a cult following, and what made them so popular to begin with.
  • The first club in this series is the Bridgestone J33R – a driver from 2005 that was both hard to find and extremely sought after. Ryan Barath breaks down some of the design attributes that still makes this a great club today.
9. Golf jokes!
Mark Townsend at National Club Golfer rounds up some of the worst…
Best golf jokes: Caddiesmack
  • A golfer walks off the 18th green, hands his putter to his caddie and says, “Kid, you’ve got to be the worst caddie in the world.”
  • The caddie replies: “Sir, that would be too much of a coincidence.”
  • Verdict: Not bad and a punchline that most of us weren’t expecting. Quick and to the point though how you’re going to bring this one to the table is anyone’s guess.
Best golf jokes: Clucking mad
  • A golfer sliced a ball into a field of chickens, striking one of the hens and killing it instantly. He was understandably upset, and sought out the farmer. “I’m sorry,” he said, “my terrible tee shot hit one of your hens and killed it. Can I replace the hen?”
  • “I don’t know about that,” replied the farmer, mulling it over. “How many eggs a day do you lay?”
  • Verdict: Better and unlike many of its golfing jokey contemporaries the punchline can’t be said to yourself about a third of the way in. Quite quirky for a golf joke and, told in the right manner, might be worth using.
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