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Spotted: New Titleist “TS2” and “TS3” drivers at the 2018 U.S. Open

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Titleist first went to market with its 917D2 and 917D3 drivers on October 21, 2016. Now, on Monday of the 2018 U.S. Open at Shinnecock Hills, the company has announced its new TS2 and TS3 drivers — and we have in-hand photos of them here.

According to Titleist, the company is starting its “rigorous validation process.” Essentially, that means Tour players will begin testing, playing and providing feedback to Titleist on the new drivers and what tweaks need to be made before the company brings them to retail.

Of course, Jimmy Walker had already been spotted testing a Titleist TS3, but that was before Titleist made its big U.S. Open announcement. There had also been rumors swirling in our forums about the new driver for months.

Check out more photos of the drivers below, and see what GolfWRX Members are saying in our forums.

Titleist TS2 driver

See more photos of the TS2 driver here.

Titleist TS3 driver

See more photos of the TS3 driver here.

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  1. Michael Lee

    Jul 15, 2018 at 9:59 pm

    spotted *insert random new club*…. new club goes just as far and straight as 5 year old clubs! Manufacturers still want you to buy!!

  2. Kieron

    Jul 6, 2018 at 1:02 am

    Guess I’ll be sticking with my 910’s for now 🙂

  3. truth

    Jun 28, 2018 at 8:27 pm

    If this were a JDM release you guys would be posting “SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!”

  4. Chuck Barkley

    Jun 13, 2018 at 3:25 pm

    Damn near resembles that Wilson customer trap!

  5. Travis

    Jun 12, 2018 at 8:51 am

    Boy is this a step in the wrong direction… you know, there used to be a joke where people would say that instead buying new equipment, shouldn’t you spend that money on lessons? Well… the manufacturers are starting to make that really easy by just releasing ugly equipment!

  6. Jeff Martin

    Jun 11, 2018 at 5:32 pm

    I saw a thread in the junior forum that this was the US Kids Golf Tour Series TS3. Hilarious!!

  7. Joey5Picks

    Jun 11, 2018 at 4:11 pm

    Wouldn’t $400 be better spent on lessons?

    • Steve

      Jun 11, 2018 at 5:27 pm

      More like $500 in the recent trend. Cant afford a new drivers these days

  8. Steve

    Jun 11, 2018 at 3:48 pm

    Ts2 looks exatly like the Bridgestone J40 driver. Look it up and tell me what you guys think!

  9. Thomas Horonzy

    Jun 11, 2018 at 3:30 pm

    You want us to rave looking at a number on the sole? Show me how it look when holding it behind the ball, from the rear, front, and side.

    • James T

      Jun 15, 2018 at 9:21 am

      Show me what it does. I don’t care about how it looks.

  10. Kool Aid

    Jun 11, 2018 at 3:21 pm

    Looks like a component club that was made at Budget Golf in 1997

  11. Bushwood Caddie

    Jun 11, 2018 at 12:00 pm

    At least the removed the AAA battery!

  12. Dane

    Jun 11, 2018 at 11:09 am

    Kind of unfortunate looking clubs

  13. scott

    Jun 11, 2018 at 10:22 am

    I currentley play the 915 d2 and love it.The biggest change I see & most excited abput is the headcovers????. They finally decided to change them from the horrable ones that they have been using for years and were the biggest P.I.T.A. to put back on.

  14. dat

    Jun 11, 2018 at 9:52 am

    Looks like a JDM release, but it isn’t. Interesting.

  15. Pullhook

    Jun 11, 2018 at 9:21 am

    Well I guess it will be another two years before I get a new driver. Pick a line titleist, are you taylormade or the classic titleist I know and prefer. If ugly looks are a mainstay I might as well go to a competitor with better performance.

  16. juststeve

    Jun 11, 2018 at 9:08 am

    Unlike the rest of these guys I can’t intelligently comment on the product before I hit it

  17. Shawn Mcbride

    Jun 11, 2018 at 9:06 am

    Looks exactly the same as all their old drivers.

  18. Bingobango

    Jun 11, 2018 at 9:05 am

    Looks kinda cheap

  19. golfraven

    Jun 11, 2018 at 9:01 am

    Long awaited pics since I am in the market for the new Titleist driver. Intrigued why the ARC went away and why the TS2 has the traditiona weights from pre 917 models. Eager to test those once they hit my local Titleist fitting center. At this moment I would likely go with the TS3 since this looks like the D3 option

  20. Man

    Jun 11, 2018 at 8:45 am

    What happened to the ARC? Got chased by TM for patent infringement?

  21. Joe sponcia

    Jun 11, 2018 at 8:34 am

    Looks like an r9

  22. Jeffrey

    Jun 11, 2018 at 8:32 am

    No active recoil channel on either? TS2 a rebadged 913 and TS3 a rebadged 913 with 917 weights.

  23. BirdieBouy18

    Jun 11, 2018 at 8:26 am

    TS2 would be like Ping G400 MAX

    • HDTVMAN

      Jun 11, 2018 at 9:41 am

      Sorry but the Ping G400 Series, including the MAX, are the real deal…long and straight. I’m a fitter and have not suggested a Titleist driver for years. They are short on distance and forgiveness. With the exception of the new AP3, the AP1 & 2 irons leave a lot to be desired.

      • JJVas

        Jun 11, 2018 at 11:11 am

        If I played a driver on just looks and sound, it would be Titleist every time… but every time I put them against Cally and TM drivers, they come up last… and not by a little. Hopefully these are better.

  24. JB

    Jun 11, 2018 at 8:13 am

    wow i love it! FS3 looks like jt contains the surefit cg like the 917D (Thomas & Walker my guess would be using the FS3)… while the FS2 is more up the alley of the 915D weight placement and sole appearance (Speith i guess would be using something like the FS2)

  25. Wiger Toods

    Jun 11, 2018 at 8:11 am

    But why?

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Talking New Level Golf with founder Eric Burch

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“If you want to make a small fortune, start with a big fortune”

It’s a phrase I’ve heard many times before, not just with the golf industry but in other industries that are, let’s call them — leisure or sports-focused. It’s an uphill climb to enter any market, but golf might be on another level. There are the big players that are worth BILLIONS, and spend millions of dollars in research and development, along with equal amounts marketing, to make sure that every golfer is aware of their new club technologies. They also have well-oiled systems of distribution.

But in this new world of brand-agnostic fitting centers, boutique brands, social media, and the ability to reach your target demographic like never before there are a LOT of new companies creating high performance, high quality, well-engineered products. But when it comes to forged irons for golfers of all abilities, industry veteran Eric Burch’s New Level Golf stands on its own.

If you don’t know Eric Burch, and you’ve gone through a custom fitting recently, then you are at least partially aware of some of the breakthroughs he’s helped create in the golf industry, including the Club Conex system. His newest endeavor New Level Golf was only started in 2017, but in that short time, it has made some very big strides including distribution in over 150 brand agnostic club fitting facilities and now some professional golfers signed to the roster (including PGA Tour winner Ken Duke).

So how do you go from designing club fitting components to designing forged irons and starting a company that has products on the Golf Digest Hot List? I got the chance to talk to Eric about New Level Golf, his background and how after his years in the golf industry he wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.

RB: Based on your history in the golf industry you seem to be a real problem solver with a “Be your own boss” mentality, is that how you would describe your self?

EB: I’ve been in business for myself since my early 20s. Other than a few short stints for other golf companies, I have primarily been my own boss involved with golf. I would consider myself a problem solver. Not necessarily by design, but mainly due to starting companies that have always been undercapitalized which forces your hand to learn a variety of tasks to help the business move forward.
Although I’ve received notoriety as a club fitter/retailer, Club Conex, and now New Level. I’ve been fortunate to have won the professional Clubmaker’s Top Shop Award (2004), Golf Digest Top 100 Club Fitters (2016),  & have products I’ve designed be on the Golf Digest Hot List (2019).

RB: What was the first product & club head you ever designed, and how does the workflow go now with New Level?

EB: The first golf products were, of course, the Club Conex prototypes and those were generated from hand-rendered sketches. I still believe, given what I did with Club Conex and the universal system I designed, I hardly get the credit I deserve. I bought a milling machine without really knowing how to use it and over the course of 6-7 months taught myself how to use it and started creating prototypes. Those prototypes eventually became the Uni-Fit system.

The first clubs I ever designed were putters dating back to the mid 2000s, but in terms of New Level, I know what I am trying to accomplish in design as well as fitting into player categories that comes from my years working at my own shop and fitting golfers from professionals to higher handicaps. Since product is made overseas, the engineers I work with at our factory have done a very good job of helping bring my concepts and designs to fruition. I really enjoy doing the designs and creating something that will one day be in someone’s golf bag.  The only current issue with the success we’re seeing now is if the company continues to push forward we will at some point be forced to bring on an industrial design engineer to further help with product development, but that would be in 2021 as most of our products for next year are in development, or have already been developed.

RB: On that note, how long from having an initial concept to that first set of irons or at least a prototype head in hand?

EB: This is heavily dependant on the complexity of the design. The 4995 HB took almost 9 months to get it where we wanted, whereas the 902 took just about four months. Typically we can get a first article sample of a playable sample in less than 60 days.

RB: When you consider the logistics and tooling involved, that’s quite an impressive turnaround time. From a design perspective, what do you think is the most misunderstood part of creating an iron head and the manufacturing process that you face?

EB: This is a hot topic with me since most people just don’t understand the depth of the manufacturing process. A lot of people think of the term open model (a factory’s in house design produced to create a starting point for some companies), they think we are just stamping our name on a head that is already been refined and finished by someone else which couldn’t be further from the truth.

Like with many aspects of club designs some of the tooling we use are openly available, but for example the raw forged blank head is on average 407 grams on a 6 iron that needs to be designed into a profile that weighs just 262 grams. So as you can imagine a club head overweight by more that 35 percent, it’s far from being a finished product. We call all the shots when it comes to every pertinent parameter and specifications of our design. The only thing incorporated into using this process and something we can’t change is the offset of the club. All other facets of the design are facilitated by my directive and incorporated into the final design.

I chose this method of manufacturing for New Level because it allows a far more flexible range of experimentation before a final design is consummated and brought to market. As a new company starting out it would have been near impossible to use a process similar to other OEMs that create a final tool for each and every design solely based on scale. We had several designs that were not used because they didn’t make the cut when it comes to performance and if we had gone the other route we would have had hundreds of thousands of dollars in tooling alone from products that never saw the light of day.

This process is called the “near net” process, and I find it to be much more in tune with today’s industry. I will take it one step further by saying regardless how good one may be at hand grinding and polishing, a human will never be as consistent and effective as a CNC machine. This entire process allows us to keep our costs reasonable and offer a…uniquely designed, full one-piece forged club for a fair price. There are a lot of other companies using this process you’d just never suspect it.

RB: As a club builder and fitter myself, I have encountered my fair share of misconceptions from golfers, what do YOU feel is the number one thing golfer misunderstand from a design perspective of their clubs?

EB: I can only speak from my experiences, but most golfers are scared of the word “forged” as it has been far too long associated with blades and hard to hit designs. I believe the average weekend warrior still views forged as a design methodology as opposed to a manufacturing process. That is a major objective for New Level to prove that forged clubs can be forgiving, can produce great ball speed, & can be used by your average mid handicap player. Our 1126, for example, is longer from heel to toe, has a shallow profile, and deep undercut – lots of forgiveness for any level of player. From a fitting perspective, I’d say that over 80 percent of players are using shafts that are too heavy, and too stiff for them.

RB:  We’ve talked a lot about the product, and now I need to know – How many retail outlets currently carry your irons and wedges. And lastly, what advantage do you believe New Level irons and wedges have over the competition?

EB: New Level products can be found at roughly 150 locations worldwide and growing almost weekly. If I had my way, we’d never sell another club off the website since I truly believe getting fit by a professional is the best way to get the right set, but saying that as the brand is growing and during the infancy stages, I am trying to get as much product in the field of play as possible to spread brand awareness. We get positive feedback on a daily basis. We have an extensive questionnaire on our site to help those that are not close to one of our retailers, and we also have a lot of people that see our clubs, like what they see and order to their known specs.

As far as our advantages go, I believe it’s pretty simple — being small allows us to pay more attention to each and every client and ensure they are getting the attention that they deserve. The mentality is always to be big enough to make money, yet no matter how we grow, act small and care about every single customer. Currently, we have the care part down very well. My belief is with any business I’ve ever been involved with is that if you do the right thing and stay focused eventually the money will take care of itself. It’s funny because I experience many of the same challenges with New Level as I did with Club Conex early on. Although I am mixed in with a ton of larger players in the golf industry, with New Level I am starting to see our awareness with golfers grow. I hope that this growth continues and we still maintain a great rapport with our customer base.

If you are interested in New Level products check out their website, or call and check with your local club fitter for availability.

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Forum Thread of the Day: “New irons from Mizuno”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day showcases new irons that are on the way from Mizuno. Reportedly two years away from being released, but that hasn’t stopped our members from discussing and speculating on the new irons from the Japanese manufacturers.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • halfsumo: “I told myself no new irons until the new MP line comes out. Chris Voshall on TXG’s youtube said something along the lines that the new irons are “not what you’d typically expect from Mizuno”….”
  • deep18: “The one on the left in the bottom pic kinda looks like a 919 Tour.”
  • BlackM00Nlight: “Bottom picture, iron on the right appears to have a beveled leading edge, CB design, and chrome finish.”

Entire Thread: “New irons from Mizuno”

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Callaway ERC Soft Yellow now part of “Play Yellow” campaign to benefit Children’s Miracle Hospital

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Callaway Golf has today announced its ERC Soft Yellow golf ball is part of a new program: Play Yellow.

The Play Yellow campaign is an initiative from Callaway where the company will donate $4 for every dozen ball pack sold of their ERC Soft Yellow golf balls in support of Children’s Miracle Hospital Network (from today until the end of May).

The campaign runs from April 19 to May 31, and speaking on the initiative Callaway President & CEO, Chip Brewer stated

“Callaway Golf is honored to support the Children’s Miracle Network Hospitals — an outstanding organization — through this Play Yellow initiative. We’re inspired by the golf industry’s broad effort to rally around this important cause and campaign.”

As a recap, the ERC golf ball from Callaway features their Hybrid cover which is designed to create a combination of faster ball speeds for longer distance, softer feel, and higher spin for excellent control around the green. The ball contains a Graphene-infused Dual SoftFast Core which through a larger inner core seeks to maximize compression energy while minimizing driver-spin for high launch and greater distance. The balls also include Triple Track lines for improved alignment.

 

 

 

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