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Callaway Rogue and Rogue Sub Zero drivers hit USGA conforming list

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As of Monday, Dec. 4, two new drivers from Callaway appear on the USGA conforming list: a Callaway Rogue and a Callaway Rogue Sub Zero, each in 9- and 10.5-degree heads. Based on the photos, the drivers will use weights in the sole, have adjustable hosels, and will feature Callaway’s popular Jailbreak technology that it introduced in its GBB Epic drivers. The Jailbreak design essentially uses two internal bars behind the face to reduce flex and ultimately boost ball speed.

Photos of a Callaway Rogue Sub Zero driver, which look similar to the photos posted on USGA’s conforming list, also recently popped up in our forums,. Check out the “Epic is out, enter the Rogue” forum thread, and the “New Callaway Driver/Woods: Rogue” thread to see what GolfWRX members are saying about the photos of the driver.

Below are the photos of the drivers as they appear on the USGA site, along with the listed specs and descriptions.

Callaway Rogue

Callaway Rogue Sub Zero

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  1. robert

    Dec 12, 2017 at 11:07 pm

    the rogue is not the next evolution for the epic, it’s a evolution of the fusion. totally other linie not the same mistake loke TMG

  2. jim

    Dec 6, 2017 at 11:37 pm

    I’m driving a ’17 Nissan Rogue … nice…

  3. Rocky

    Dec 6, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    Yea, yea, something new every year that will get another 7-10 yards. Think we’re stupid Callaway ? Sick of all the marketing BS and insulting every past driver after we spent $400-$500.

  4. Bob Jacobs

    Dec 6, 2017 at 1:43 pm

    I’m not sure I get the title of the article as “Callaway drivers hit USGA conforming list”. Aren’t all or most Callaway drivers conforming??

  5. SoonerSlim

    Dec 6, 2017 at 11:44 am

    I can’t see any adjustment on these new drivers for the hook/fade bar. As as hooker, I like to set up my driver for maximum fade without adding draw bias with increased loft. Can’t see any reason to go spend additional money for a club that will not offset my tendency.

  6. D Mack

    Dec 4, 2017 at 9:34 pm

    1 year is plenty of time for a good design and engineering team to devlope a new product. I’m alll for it. If your only hobby is golf, the price of a new driver is relatively cheap.

    • Nat

      Dec 5, 2017 at 1:16 am

      From and engineering pov this is all ostentatious rubbish intended to scam the gullible golfers who seek a new toy to boost their pathetic game …. soooo obvious

      • D Mack

        Dec 5, 2017 at 9:28 pm

        I wouldn’t say rubish. Most of the new drivers are very good. Will they make a golfer with a below average swing start hitting great drives? Uh…. no. But the quest for “Excalibur ” gives golfers a mission which some golfers seem to love. I myself like to demo the new crop of drivers every year, but seldom see the drivers live up to the hype. Drivers in my bag are on self regulated 2 year contract and irons are on a 5 year. Putters on the other hand come and go. My weakness.

  7. don

    Dec 4, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    Just looking at the design of the Rogue soles it’s evident these drivers are top notch.

    • Uhit

      Dec 5, 2017 at 6:53 am

      Great design indeed, wonder if they also have a milled face?

  8. JThunder

    Dec 4, 2017 at 7:15 pm

    For those who get annoyed at the “constant” club releases, understand, this is typical capitalism. The marketing departments and shareholders demand new products on a regular basis. It’s been a long time since “consumer demand” or “improvement” drove new product launches – in golf or almost any other area of manufacture.

    If you want to change this, vote for socialism.

    • JEC

      Dec 5, 2017 at 11:15 am

      You have a choice not to buy it…..Socialism is for losers.

  9. dat

    Dec 4, 2017 at 4:43 pm

    Have Callaway not learned a thing from the demise of TMAG? They just put out too many clubs that look the same, sound the same, and perform the same, while pricing them a bit more than the last model. Enough.

    • NJhonus

      Dec 4, 2017 at 4:52 pm

      Why do we care? Do you get mad when BMW launches a new 3 series or 5 series every year. Or Chevy pumps out annual upgrades to the Malibu or Corvette.

      They run 2 year product cycles, same as smartphones and longer than computers or cars or pretty much anyother good we purchase.

      • Doesnotno

        Dec 5, 2017 at 10:03 am

        But BMW/Chevy put out models with quantifiable improvements – faster, smoother, more economical, etc. Smartphones and computers have more memory, better screens, faster processors. Callaway and TMAG can’t prove similar improvements. They’re simply offending people who purchased the earlier models. In the short term they think they’re improving profits, in the long term they’re educating people that there’s no need to change driver until the current model breaks.

        • mike

          Dec 5, 2017 at 11:57 am

          not true. newer models arent always better and sometimes have lots of recalls.

          • Sam

            Dec 6, 2017 at 2:40 pm

            i have done ALOT of testing with all models and i think they are are big upgrade for epic.
            I dont game callaway clubs but as a club fitter i get to test everything.
            The original epic to me was strange…. it was hard to tell where on the face you hit the ball and hard to find the COG.
            The rouge line has much more “FEEL” which is the main thing epic is lacking…
            the fairway woods were much much better.
            As for the Iron line… pretty sure the rogue X iron had a 41* PW (im not exaggerating)
            Performance wise i didnt see much change and doubt you will see much more in the next 2-3 models..
            Taylormades M3 and M4 are going to be something we haven’t seen in the golf industry before….. Actual NEW stuff….
            Anyone have any Question ill do my best to answer.

            • Terry (TMAC)

              Dec 6, 2017 at 11:00 pm

              Is there a way to adjust the fade / draw bias?

      • Anthony

        Dec 6, 2017 at 3:01 pm

        2 year product cycle? What planet are you from? Callaway and Tmag are ridiculous with There product cycles…

    • Donny Johnston

      Dec 4, 2017 at 9:06 pm

      Let the market decide. Your opinion makes you sound like an economic illiterate.

  10. jd57

    Dec 4, 2017 at 2:56 pm

    Oh great… more drivers…

    • don

      Dec 4, 2017 at 9:03 pm

      …. and fewer golfers who can afford them …lol

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Members’ Choice: The top-5 drivers that golfers want to test in 2018

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Golf’s “off-season” is upon us and the PGAM Show in Orlando is quickly approaching in January, which means it’s time to start thinking about the upcoming driver releases.

We’ve seen a few companies launch their “2018” lines already — such as Cobra with its new King F8 and F8+ — while speculation swirls around the companies who have yet to announce their newest products. For instance, we’ve spotted a new “TaylorMade M4″ driver, and a new “Rogue” driver from Callaway. If history repeats itself and Titleist remains on a two-year product cycle, then we’ll see a replacement for the 917 line sometime in 2018, as well.

The question we posed to our GolfWRX Members recently was, which new or unreleased driver has you most excited heading into 2018? Below are the results and a selection of comments about each driver.

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Note: The comments below have been minimally edited for brevity and grammar. 

Titleist (7.39 percent of votes)

BDoubleG: I know it’s well down the road, but the Titleist 919 is what I’m most looking forward to. I played the 910 until this year and loved it, but I realized that I wasn’t getting much in the way of distance gains with the 915/917, and I was just leaving too many yards on the table. I know it’s a cliche, but I was seeing considerable gains with my G400LS, then my M2 I have now.

I feel like Titleist has been hurting in the driver market share category (and probably elsewhere), as I think a lot of people think that the 913, 915 and 917 have been minor refreshes in a world where almost everyone else has been experimenting with structure (jailbreak, turbulators) or with COG (spaceports, SLDR, G-series extreme back CG). I think if Titleist is going to recapture some of their market share, they will need to start taking an interest in stepping outside of their comfort zone to catch up with everyone else. Maybe I’m hoping for too much, but a D2-style head with ample forgiveness and low-spin (maybe a back-front weight), with the same great sound of the 917, and hopefully getting rid of the “battery taped to the sole” look would be a huge hit in my book.

I’m really looking forward to seeing what they come up with…and I hope I’m not disappointed.

Mizuno GT-180 or otherwise (8.87 percent of votes)

mrmikeac: After thoroughly testing the Mizuno ST-180 and seeing the distance gains I was getting from my Epic, I can’t wait for the GT to get here. Cobra would be next in line for me, but Mizzy really did something special with that JPX-900 and it seems to look like they’re going the same route with these drivers. Excellent feel, forgiveness and simple but effective tech. 

Callaway Rogue, Rogue Sub Zero or otherwise (17.73 percent of votes)

cvhookem63: It seems like we’re not getting a lot of “NEW” this time — just some same lines “improved” on a little. I’m interested to try the Rogue line and M3/M4 line to see if they improved on their previous models. The Cobra F8+ is intriguing to me, as well. I’d like to compare those three to see how they stack up. 

tj7644: Callaway Rogue. It’s gotta make me hit straighter drives right? It sure can’t be my swing…

Equipto: Callaway Rogue Sub Zero, and that’s about it. Most of my testing will be with shafts I presume. 

bangabain: Excited to give the Rogue a shot, although with the hope that there’s a little more fade bias despite the lack of sliding weight.

TaylorMade M3, M4 or otherwise (27.09 percent of votes)

DeCuchi: TaylorMade M3 of course, and the F8+. I’m more interested in the fairways this year though. TaylorMade M4 fairways and Rogue fairways are top of my list. 

elwhippy: TaylorMade M3 and M4. Not owned a TM driver for several seasons and want something with a bit more power than the Ping G Series…

cradd10: M3. Still rocking an OG M1. Super solid driver. Curious to see if the updated version can beat it. 

Cobra F8/F8+ (33.66 percent of votes)

WAxORxDCxSC: I sure want to like the F8 based on looks (I understand I’m possibly in the minority on that one at GolfWRX).

TWshoot67: For me, it’s three drivers: the Cobra F8, F8+ and TM M4. 

The General: Cobra F8 is going to dominate everything, just wait, on the F8

Ace2000: Definitely F8/F8+. Love my Bio Cell+ and can’t help but wonder if these perform as good as they look. 

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True Linkswear goes back to its spikeless roots

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True Linkswear is getting back to its roots, while expanding the singular golf shoe brand’s reach at the same time.

The Tacoma, Washington, company’s Director/Partner, Justin Turner, told us that with the release of the two new models, the company is course-correcting from a move toward the mainstream, spiked golf shoes, and a loss of identity.

In addition to durability issues, Turner said the core True Linkswear customer didn’t appreciate the shift — or the deluge of models that followed.

So, in a sense, the two-model lineup both throws a bone to True devotees and casts a wider net.

Turner and company asked: “If we wanted to restart the brand….what would we value?” A commitment to the brand’s core outsider identity, style as articulated in early models, and an emphasis on quality led Turner on multiple trips to China to survey suppliers in early 2017. Eventually, the company settled on a manufacturing partner with a background in outdoor gear and hiking shoes.

“We’ve spent the last few years scouring the globe for the best material sourcing, reputable factories, advanced construction techniques, and time-tested fundamentals to build our best shoes yet. No cheap synthetics, no corners cut.”

Eventually, True settled on two designs: The Original, which, not surprisingly, has much in common with the zero-drop 2009 industry disrupting model, and the Outsider: a more athletic-style shoe positioned to attract a broader audience.

True Linkswear Original: $149

The company emphasizes the similarity in feel between the Original and early True Linkswear models, suggesting that players will feel and connect to the course “in a whole new way.”

  • Gray, White, Black
  • Waterproof full grain leather
    2-year waterproof guarantee
  • thin sole with classic True zero-drop heel
  • 12.1 oz
  • Sockfit liner for comfort
  • Natural width box toe

True Linkswear Outsider: $169

With the Outsider, True Linkswear asked: “What if a golf shoe could be more? Look natural in more environments?”

  • Grey/navy, black, white colorways
  • EVA midsole for lightweight cushioning
  • Full grain waterproof leather
  • 13.1 oz (thicker midsole than the Original)

The company envisions both shoes being worn on course and off.

True Linkswear introduced the more durable and better-performing Cross Life Tread with both models. Turner says the tread is so good, you can wear the shoes hiking.

Both models are available now through the company website only. True Linkswear plans to enter retail shops slowly and selectively.

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Sean O’Hair and Steve Stricker’s Winning WITBs from the 2017 QBE Shootout

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The team of Steve Stricker and Sean O’Hair closed the QBE Shootout with an 8-under 64 for a two-shot win over Graeme McDowell and Shane Lowry. O’Hair made a timely eagle on the par-5 17th hole at Tiburon Golf Club to lock up the first place prize of $820,000 ($410,000 each).

Here’s a look at their bags.

Sean O’Hair

Driver: Titleist 917D2 (9.5 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro White Prototype 60TX

3 Wood: Titleist 917F2 (15 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana S+ Limited Edition 70TX

5 Wood: Titleist 915F (18 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Rayon Diamana S+ Limited Edition 80TX

Irons: Titleist 716 T-MB (4-iron), Titleist 718 AP2 (5-PW)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100

Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM7 prototype (50, 54 and 58 degrees)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Putter: Scotty Cameron prototype

Golf Ball: Titleist Pro V1

Related: Sean O’Hair WITB

Steve Stricker

Driver: Titleist 913D3 (8.5 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Motore Speeder VC 8.2X

3 Wood: Titleist 915F (13.5 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Rayon Tensei CK Pro White 80TX Prototype

Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 (17.0 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Motore Speeder VC 9.2X

Irons: Titleist 718 CB (3-9)
Shafts: KBS Tour Prototype

Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM6 (46, 54 and 60 degrees)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold S400 w/ Sensicore

Putter: Odyssey White Hot 2

Golf Ball: Titleist Pro V1x

Related: Steve Stricker WITB 2017

Note: We originally reported Stricker had a Scotty Cameron putter in the bag, per Titleist’s equipment report. Stricker did, however, have a Odyssey White Hot putter in play during the final round of the QBE Shootout.

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