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Return of the K Sig: Costco’s Kirkland Signature golf ball is back

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The buzz in the GolfWRX forums this afternoon: Costco’s Kirkland Signature Four-Piece Urethane Golf Ball is back in stock.

DavePelz4 gleefully spilled the beans.

Screenshot (87)Now available to members only online, the K Sigs are still retailing for $29.99 per two dozen; $4.99 shipping & handling. Orders are limited to two (24-packs) per member, and of course, supplied are limited.

Referred to colloquially as a “K Sig” by its many admirers, Costco, it seems, has no intention of halting production of the controversial, disruptive golf ball.

RELATED: Golfers are going crazy over Costco’s Kirkland Signature golf balls

A three-piece, 338 dimple golf ball appeared on the USGA’s conforming ball list over the summer, leading many to speculate that the embattled four-piece ball had indeed met its eternal demise.

However, the packaging for this Four-Piece Urethane Golf Ball is the same as the popular, and routinely out-of-stock ball whose production was halted in January.

RELATED: Titleist responds to Costco’s suit with 284-page countersuit

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  1. Acew7iron

    Nov 7, 2017 at 3:50 pm

    KSig…For the Ebay flipper who likes making 4x on their investment.

  2. Matt k

    Oct 23, 2017 at 9:32 am

    Titleist AVX for the golfer that buys new drivers every season and believes it improves their game. SMH. K-Sig for the golfer who would normally buy a decent ball that plays well and says why not buy a better ball for less money.

  3. The dude

    Oct 20, 2017 at 6:44 am

    K Sig…for the guy that uses the ball washer 4 times a round…

  4. M. Vegas

    Oct 19, 2017 at 5:32 pm

    Kirkland Signature….
    For the guy that’s in more than 10 fantasy leagues

    • MB

      Oct 20, 2017 at 3:03 am

      It’s called K-Sig so that idiotic dudes formerly named Smiz or whatever can go sign-out and check out of everybody’s life for ever.

      • M. Vegas

        Oct 20, 2017 at 8:24 am

        You remember me, shame I don’t remember you

        • Aot

          Oct 20, 2017 at 11:53 am

          You can’t remember anything. And we all know why.

  5. M. Vegas

    Oct 19, 2017 at 5:25 pm

    Kirkland Signature….
    For the guy that wants bobo Wishon clubs

  6. M. Vegas

    Oct 19, 2017 at 5:23 pm

    Kirkland Signature….
    For the guy with the collared Alabama Crimson Tide shirt

  7. ken

    Oct 19, 2017 at 4:02 pm

    sold out

    • gorden

      Oct 19, 2017 at 9:47 pm

      Bet more are on the way out in the Pacific Ocean some where….

  8. Deadeye

    Oct 19, 2017 at 9:35 am

    I just ordered two dozen Ksigs (again). I am no loss to major ball manufacturers as I have felt that most premium golf balls are over priced and don’t buy them anyway. Most of the price of premium balls and clubs is to cover the cost of advertising. I can score about the same with low spinning balls but there are some shots around the green that a high spin ball works better. Thank you Costco and golfwrx.

  9. JB

    Oct 18, 2017 at 7:52 pm

    I’m sure the good balls, but I’ll stick to buying last year’s name brand balls for a few bucks more. Currently have a huge stash of Srixon Z-Stars that I got for $23/doz.

  10. AP

    Oct 18, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    Finally get to try em! Yay! Atleast I know if I don’t like them, I sell them and get my money back

  11. Tom54

    Oct 18, 2017 at 5:53 pm

    Those of us old enough to remember back in the days pro line balls were $1.25 ea or $15 a doz. now 40 yrs later you can get a hi quality golf ball for the same?? Makes you wonder how much today’s balls are over priced. I’ll be anxiously awaiting my order of K-sig balls.

  12. WILLIAM MARTELLA

    Oct 18, 2017 at 2:34 pm

    less than $20 a dozen delivered, for a quality tour design ball? Done. Let’s me save my Nike RZN Tour Black for special occasions, since the supply is twindling hahaha. Take that high priced ball manufacturers!

  13. golfbum

    Oct 18, 2017 at 2:20 pm

    The marketer in me holds interest in the new Titleist AVX ball. So many questions like entry price into market ( Prov1X’s pricing), limited distribution and how this ball will be indeed marketed. This is a wait see for me until I gather the facts.

    But I find the timing of the AVX and Costco another curious entity. There are only so many ball manufacturers in the world. Take a look at the confirming ball list and you will see that Titleist has dozens of balls listed: meaning that there is no reason to not believe that they private label mfr’ng for other brands.

    A wait and see….

    • WooHoo

      Oct 18, 2017 at 4:00 pm

      ProV1 minus $20 = AVX

      • golfbum

        Oct 18, 2017 at 4:24 pm

        Titleist has yet to position this 3 piece AVX against other brand types. So lowering it to $30 a dozen when you dont have to? Perhaps…..but the wait and see comment. The interest is how this ball will be marketed. Coming out at top $ and lower price later is a strategy, but you have to build the brand and with that demand. Limited distribution is but one tactic. making it a cheaper ball without positioning it correctly just cheapens the brand.

        Golf marketing is changing. This one interests me.

        The key question that I am seeking exact information what OEM is making the ball that is being branded Kirkland. A bit too lazy but if i can get my hands on the box the UPC codes and other information will provide insight there. Find the timing of Costco notice of a 3 piece and the AVX of interest. Again, I seek then determine.

        On this note, I have played the AVX. It is a good ball. But then, today, all balls are good.

        • Scott

          Oct 19, 2017 at 4:31 pm

          Costco is a 4 piece ball

          • The dude

            Oct 20, 2017 at 6:47 am

            You seriously think 99% of players can tell the difference??…

        • Branson Reynolds

          Oct 20, 2017 at 12:43 am

          Titleist is just putting a U cover on the NXT S and seeing if they can make an extra $15 a box on em.

          • Gorden

            Oct 24, 2017 at 5:49 pm

            AVX on counter at public course I played today…$50 a dozen hand written sign……a joke, course is only $22 with cart to play.

    • Michael

      Oct 18, 2017 at 4:06 pm

      Titleist choose our club as part of their Florida test market for the AVX. I bought a dozen to try them. Good, but not better than Srixon QStar Tour or Snell MTB. Not close to being worth $50+ a dozen. I predict it will fail in the market segment they have targeted.

      I successfully ordered two 24 packs of the Kirkland ball. We shall see. At that price it’s worth seeing if it really is a great ball. But if they can’t supply it on a regular basis what’s the point?

      Snell is the best high performance ball and value out there.

      • Scott

        Oct 19, 2017 at 4:33 pm

        Did you compare the AVX to the other Titleist balls? That would seem more relevant of a comparison than to the others you mentioned.

      • gorden

        Oct 19, 2017 at 9:46 pm

        Just the fact Costco had another run shows that there is a manufacture in South Korea willing to produce them, it may not even be the same South Korean manufacture that made the first run, but I believe the ability to run a Urethane cover was in a plant that was making Taylor Made balls with Urethane Covers for Asian Market. Volvik would be one of their biggest competitors in South Korea.

  14. Branson Reynolds

    Oct 18, 2017 at 1:29 pm

    I’ve found ONE k-sig on the course before and promptly landed it over the green into a pond. Glad I can play a whole round with one(many) now

    • Bishop

      Oct 18, 2017 at 3:08 pm

      Ha! The exact same thing happened to me, right after an awesome 320 yard tee shot to the center of the fairway. I really kicked myself!

      • M. Vegas

        Oct 19, 2017 at 7:12 pm

        Seriously doubt that yardage Dinklage…
        Especially with those Ping Moxie clubs you baggin

  15. Atlantagolf

    Oct 18, 2017 at 1:22 pm

    Thanks! I got my 4 dozen!

  16. saveva

    Oct 18, 2017 at 12:54 pm

    I asked my PXGs if I should buy Kirkland golf balls and they said EWWW.

  17. Milo

    Oct 18, 2017 at 11:33 am

    I’m in like sin, never tried the original. Need to try the new volviks too.

  18. VSPROTO

    Oct 18, 2017 at 11:04 am

    Im in!!!!! Wonder how long the supply lasts at max 2 bundles per order?

    • Lance

      Oct 18, 2017 at 12:09 pm

      …. especially if you use/lose a box a round !!!!!!!!!!

  19. DavieD

    Oct 18, 2017 at 8:51 am

    Definitely worth a try, however, Dean Snell stated that there’s no way it will be the same ball as the original. Should be interesting to see the inevitable comparisons with Titleist and the original ball.

    • new stuff!!

      Oct 18, 2017 at 11:38 am

      they might be different… but never trust a guy who has a horse in the race

      • Steve

        Oct 20, 2017 at 1:31 am

        Knowing guys that work for Taylor Made I think you have a good point….

  20. Brian

    Oct 18, 2017 at 7:59 am

    Purchased. Played them all summer and loved them.

  21. Eldrick T

    Oct 18, 2017 at 3:35 am

    Sign me up

  22. Captain Kirk

    Oct 18, 2017 at 2:12 am

    Where no ball has gone before ……. woooooooosh

  23. Scott

    Oct 18, 2017 at 12:44 am

    So what happens when they run out again. It’s good that they put a limit so people don’t buy all of them and try and sell them at a ridiculous price but they will eventually run out. Honestly you can spend an extra 5 dollars a dozen and get a great ball from a company call Cut Golf and don’t have to worry about only getting 2 2packs. Just saying. I tried the old ones and wasn’t a huge fan. It’s all about what ball fits your game though. To each their own.

    • Charlie

      Oct 18, 2017 at 11:11 am

      I wish I could agree with you. I so badly wanted the “Cut” 4 piece golf ball to be everything it was hyped up to be, but I found them to high spinning, which is fine and great around the greens, but off the tee they were terrible. Glad to see the return of the k-sig!!!

  24. Gorden

    Oct 17, 2017 at 11:32 pm

    Wonder if the manufacture did loose contract with Taylormade and needs to sell to COSTCO???

  25. gwillis7

    Oct 17, 2017 at 10:40 pm

    I just bought two (24 packs), as of right now they are in stock. The ones I bought say 4 piece urethane.

    I usually play W/S Duo’s…lookin forward to getting my K-Sig on

  26. cgasucks

    Oct 17, 2017 at 10:03 pm

    Can’t wait for Rick Sheils and other reviewers to test this ball out, even though this isn’t the 4 piece wonderball that has been chronically sold out…

  27. Dat

    Oct 17, 2017 at 9:01 pm

    How you like them apples, Titleist?

    • DB

      Oct 18, 2017 at 8:26 am

      LOL. They are probably furiously calling their lawyers now.

      K-Sig for $1.25 per ball, or the new Titleist AVX for three times the price? No contest.

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Is it really that hard to make it to the PGA Tour?

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Most high handicappers delude themselves into thinking that with the right tip from a golf magazine, they’ll be par shooters. Likewise, many a scratch player believes (if only he had the practice time!) could make it to the professional circuit.

In that vein: How tough is it really to make it to the PGA Tour? More specifically, how large is/what constitutes the divide between mini tour players and those with PGA Tour cards?

GolfWRX member wmblake2000 devoted a thread to the topic. He writes.

“I met a young guy at the range today – 23 yrs. This kid had a stunning swing, professional grade. So much speed, just beautiful to witness. I never really saw him putt chip nor, obviously, play. But the boy was impressive and has serious talent.

“I asked him what he was doing – trying to make the pga tour, of course. Next year he’s going to play the South American tour, which I had never heard of. He said top 5 make the web.com tour. Out of 100+. The average driver carry distance on this tour is 297, he said. His point was, the guys on this tour could all play.

“Now, distance and swing isn’t the same as scoring under pressure but, damn, this kid looked good to me and his odds of making the pga tour are very slim at best.”

The early replies are stellar. WRXer bcinstinct pulls this quote from an NPR interview with John Feinstein from when the sportswriter was doing his research for Tales From Q School

“If you walk down the range at the first stage – there are 14 first stage sites of Q School every year – and just watch the guys swing a golf club, you couldn’t tell the difference between them and the guys on the tour. They can all hit it 300 yards, they all have beautiful swings.

“The difference is that the guys at the top level can play under the most pressure. That’s where you separate the men from the boys, the women from the girls in professional golf. It’s your ability to repeat your swing under pressure and to make putts under pressure. Tiger Woods, in 2005, had 485 putts on tour of five feet or less. He missed none of them. That’s one of the reasons he’s Tiger Woods.”

The insights and anecdotes that follow make this a must-read thread even though it’s nary a few days old.

And at the risk of stomping on any dreams: For anyone who hasn’t grown up competing as an elite amateur and at least been recruited by a top college golf program, it’s incredibly, incredibly, unlikely you’ll ever make it to the PGA Tour.

Anyway, check out the full thread.

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Acushnet CEO fires back at Mike Davis, Bridgestone over rollback debate

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Wally Uihlein, president and CEO of Titleist’s parent company, Acushnet, drafted a letter to the Wall Street Journal Monday ostensibly in response to the paper’s interview with Mike Davis. The USGA executive director told the WSJ lengthening golf courses makes the game a more costly proposition for all golfers.

In short, the head of the industry’s leading golf ball manufacturer doesn’t buy the “trickle down cost argument,” or at least is yet to see data confirming Davis’ suggestions.

He writes,

“Is there any evidence to support this canard…the trickle down cost argument? Where is the evidence to support the argument that golf course operating costs nationwide are being escalated due to advances in equipment technology?”

Uihlein also questioned Bridgestone CEO, Angelo Ilagan’s motives for calling for a rollback of the golf ball last week.

“Given Bridgestone’s very small worldwide market share and paltry presence in professional golf, it would seem logical they would have a commercial motive making the case for a reduced distance golf ball.”

Shots fired. Titleist has always been willing to do battle with adversaries to the brand, and the company is obviously keen to avoid the suggestion that it plays a part in making the game more expensive for everyone who swings a golf club.

Geoff Shackelford’s analysis of Davis’ remarks seems even more prescient today.

“Every party involved has some incentive not to force the issue. If the governing bodies tried to mandate a more restrictive ball for all golfers, they would face a massive fight from equipment companies. Those companies thrive by making a hard game easier, not harder.”

None of this is to say Uihlein is anything other than right about the fact that decisions about a ball rollback or lack thereof must be driven by data, rather than some cocktail of fear, half-truths, and nostalgia.

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Distance increases “horrible” for all golfers, says USGA’s Mike Davis

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From Tiger Woods, to tour heads, to company executives, everyone seems to be talking about rolling back the golf ball lately.

In a Saturday piece for the Wall Street Journal, Brian Costa talked to USGA chief executive, Mike Davis, and he offered his strongest statement yet about the need for variable-distance golf balls.

“You can’t say you don’t care about distance, because guess what? These courses are expanding and are predicted to continue to expand,” Davis said. “The impact it has had has been horrible…The reality is this is affecting all golfers and affecting them in a bad way. All it’s doing is increasing the cost of the game.”

There are a couple of avenues of approach to the “increasing the cost of the game” comment, but it’s difficult to argue with Davis; the trickle down to golfers of the lengthening and quickening of courses is lighter wallets.

Davis, understanding the delicate position the USGA is in, seems inclined to make strong suggestions and leave decision making (i.e. how “rolled back” golf balls are) to specific tours, events, amateur organizations, etc.

But as Geoff Shackelford writes in his breakdown of the WSJ piece, we’re at a tricky impasse.

“Every party involved has some incentive not to force the issue. If the governing bodies tried to mandate a more restrictive ball for all golfers, they would face a massive fight from equipment companies. Those companies thrive by making a hard game easier, not harder. The PGA Tour relies on eye-popping distance numbers to highlight the skill and athleticism of its stars, which isn’t always apparent to the naked eye.”

We can probably add that the most casual of fans like to see birdies and pin-seeking approach shots, the possibility of anything that reduces those quantities has to be anxiety provoking for a sport struggling with ratings.

That said, a consensus opinion delivered jointly by governing bodies, tours, and equipment would seem to be the most sensible (if unlikely) way forward.

What do you think about Davis’ comments, WRX members? If we’re going to see a limiting of the golf ball, what’s the best way to roll out the rollback?

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