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Starting my own golf academy this February at the Carlsbad Golf Center was a dream come true. However, being at a driving range, I had to think twice about how I would teach my players to hit shots off of uneven lies. Thankfully, I found one of the best golf training tools ever developed, called the Tuff Shot Trainer by Real Feel Golf Mats. This tool is perfect for practicing every type of lie, at any grade, when hitting on a driving range.

Using the Tuff Shot Training in conjunction with Trackman, we can work on the proper face-to-path ratios so that students can start their ball on the correct line to allow for the natural curvature back to the target.

I was interested to figure out what specifically changed when the ball was above or below a golfer’s feet. The general rule of thumb is that when the ball is above your feet, it tends to go left for the right-handed golfers, and when below your feet, it will go to the right.

“Is this because of the path or the face, and why?” I wanted to know.

I knew I could use my Trackman to help figure this out. I tested with my 6 iron, a PXG 0311T with a standard lie angle. I put my Tuff Shot at an 8-degree grade, starting with the ball above my feet. Then I hit 20 shots, and repeated the same process with the ball below my feet at the same 8-degree grade.

Based on the Trackman results, the differentiators between the two lies at impact were:

  1. The face angle.
  2. The swing plane.

On average, the shaft plane at impact was 10 degrees flatter when the ball was above my feet compared to when it was below my feet. As a result, the club face, more than the club path, tended to change at impact depending if the ball was above or below my feet.

golf-ball-below-feet

The flatter the shaft at impact, the more the sweet spot points left. The more upright the shaft at impact the more the sweet spot points right.

I attribute a large portion of this to the shaft plane at impact being flatter or more vertical. This changes the direction that the center of the face is pointing upon impact.

The Data Collected

shot-results

From 20 shots hit with the ball above the feet at an 8 percent grade.

For someone who hits the ball relatively straight, here is why you need to aim right when the ball is above your feet:

  • The club face is going to be closed to the path at impact when the ball is above your feet. The more above the feet, the more it will be closed. Also, the ball starts closer to where the face is pointed at impact than the path at impact. So when you aim at the target, the ball will start left and go more left, which obviously is not ideal.

If you aim right:

  • Aiming right will get the face open enough — relative to the target line — but will be closed to the path and will allow for the ball to start right and finish at the target.

Here are some general setup tips when the ball is above your feet in an uneven lie:

  • Start by standing closer and taller than you normally would. The greater the slope the more important this is.
  • Choke down on the club to help get the shaft more upright and to avoid fat shots.
  • Aim your entire body to right field so the ball can start right of the target before it curves to the left.
  • Take one more club to compensate for choking down on the shaft.
  • Finally, commit to the swing and trust that the ball will come back to the left.
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Originally from Portland Oregon, Devan played collegiate golf at College of the Desert in Palm Desert before transferring to San Diego State. In 2007, he started working for Jim McLean at PGA West. There Devan was able to spend significant time with Jim McLean and was subsequently asked by Jim to move to the TPC Doral location in Miami, Florida, to be his Personal Teaching Assistant. At Doral, Devan was able to teach with Jim in every golf lesson, clinic and school that he taught. Some of the notable players he worked with while Jim’s assistant were Greg Norman, Keegan Bradley, Lexi Thompson, Eric Compton and Vaughn Taylor. Devan also aided Jim in the writing of his Death Moves book in 2009. In 2011 Devan was offered a Master Instructor position at The Jim McLean Junior Academy in Dallas/Fort Worth. He spent the next five years helping develop some of the best Junior golfers in the country. In addition to Jim McLean, Devan has had the opportunity to spend significant time with Mike Bender, Jim Hardy, Hank Haney, Chuck Cook and Jim Flick. The culmination of this time has helped shape the way Devan teaches golf. Devan enjoys working with players of all abilities from the High Performance Junior to the Weekend Golfer.

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  2. Peter Maki

    Jul 27, 2016 at 5:29 pm

    Sure the swing plane is different because the slope dictates it. Lie angle is the biggest reason shots curve more and start more left/right off of slopes.

  3. Steven

    Jul 20, 2016 at 3:28 pm

    Good article Devan. I like that the technology confirmed what we all intuitively believed. I also like the explanation. It would help a little to know how far to the right or how far to left to aim.

    Keep up the good work.

  4. Bert

    Jul 20, 2016 at 12:37 pm

    Nice and simple – just right for me, simple!

  5. alan

    Jul 20, 2016 at 7:45 am

    haha

  6. Grim

    Jul 19, 2016 at 11:48 am

    You do realize it’s quite easy to hit straight shots from uneven lies?

    The main reason the ball goes left when above your feet and right below, is because of the out of balance reaction your body has during the swing.

    This teaching method of aiming to adjust for these types of shots is wrong and very outdated.

    • Smacked

      Jul 19, 2016 at 12:51 pm

      So’s your face

    • Bob Pegram

      Jul 20, 2016 at 2:59 pm

      It works for most people. It is easier than trying to change your entire swing balance on one shot.
      However, explain what you mean. I am curious.

    • John

      Jul 21, 2016 at 2:24 pm

      uh, no?

      On all shots with all clubs, the ball has backspin. Backspin is created by the ball “rolling up” the face perpendicular to the sole angle. This is known. Physics also dictates that backspin will cause the ball to move “up” through the air perpendicular to the axis of spin. Obviously gravity fights this, but that is why you see that “balooning” ball flight. So, with a square face-to-path, this axis of spin will be parallel to the sole angle. If we put those pieces together, ball above your feet=sole angled left=axis angled left=ball goes left.

      Also important to note that the face angle itself, due to the loft, will be offline, meaning the ball will start left or right of your line, then curve from there. Both the line and spin will be more affected by higher-lofted clubs. (This is the bit about the face being “closed” above, although he did kind of a poor job of expressing what that really means. The club face would appear square to you, but you have to consider the loft of the face as well, which will now be pointing left or right. The pics do a better job of showing that.)

      This is why lie angle is a fitting criteria–if you’re delivering the club too upright or laid back, you’ll need to compensate other ways or the ball will always move right or left, respectively.

  7. Howard

    Jul 19, 2016 at 10:23 am

    Is that the Carlsbad Golf Center? Go Aztecs!

    • James

      Jul 19, 2016 at 2:52 pm

      Yes it is! Spent 16 good months there with the Golf Academy of America in 08/09

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Mis-aligned hands

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To help you really understand how this works, go to the range and hit shots with your five-iron gripped down a full inch to make the club the same length as your seven-iron. You will probably see an amazing shot shape difference, and likely not see as much distance loss as you would expect.

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