Connect with us

Equipment

Ping i25 Driver, Fairway Woods and Hybrids

Published

on

af928ee05a7c8dfa5d7e9f782698c0cf

i25 Driver

Ping’s new i25 driver has a center of gravity that is more forward than the company’s G25 driver to help golfers reduce spin on their tee shots. But discussion about the i25’s engineering feats will likely take a backseat to a more obvious change to the new club: black racing stripes that run from the top of the driver’s face to the back of its crown to help golfers set up square to their target line.

Click here to see what GolfWRX members are saying about the i25 lineup in the forums.

Marty Jertson, director of product development for Ping, said it took the company three years to perfect the racing stripes because of the difficulty of placing straight lines on a club’s curved crown surface.

d6fbe6e041f7e70a51a25ae11c0490dd

According to Jertson, average golfers use a driver with a lie angle of about 58 degrees. But when they place their drivers in the address position behind the ball, their lie angle measures about 45 degrees. That’s why if you look at the racing stripes in most orientations other than the setup position, they don’t look straight. But they look perfectly straight at address thanks to the special tooling Ping created to stamp the stripe on the head and verify its proper placement.

[youtube id=”cR1beX34Yak” width=”620″ height=”360″]

The i25 driver is not as forgiving as the company’s G25—its heel-to-toe moment of inertia is about 4700 g-cm2, while the G25 has an MOI of about 5500— mostly because of the i25’s shorter profile from front to back. But engineers were able to make a significant improvement in the top-to-bottom MOI of the i25; it’s 8 percent higher than its predecessor, the i20 driver. That creates more consistent spin rates on shots struck both above and below the sweet spot, leading to longer drives. The i25 also has 15 grams of tungsten weighting positioned on the rear portion of its sole, helping boost heel-to-toe MOI by 1 percent over the i20.

3309680e90797ef04bd7708a7b993ea4

Like Ping’s G25 and Anser drivers, the i25 is equipped with Ping’s Trajectory Tuning technology, the company’s slim, lightweight adjustable hosel that allows golfers to raise or lower a driver’s stock loft by 0.5 degrees. The driver is available in lofts of 8.5, 9.5 and 10.5, each with a 460-cubic-centimeter head that weighs 207 grams.

The stock shaft is Ping’s new PWR (performance, weighting, responsiveness) family, which is available in three different weights: 55, 65 and 75 grams. Each shaft has a specific balance point that keeps the swing weight of the club the same regardless of what shaft weight golfers choose. For example, an i25 driver built with a PWR 55-gram shaft will have a lighter total weight than one built with a PWR 65-gram shaft. But the lower balance point of the PWR 55-gram shaft allows both clubs to have the same swing weight.

5192d28e11e4c122b0b36cbbdfd6d33c

The stock shafts include: PWR 55 (R and S flexes), PWR 65 (R, S, Tour S and Tour XS) and PWR 75 (S, Tour S, Tour XS). The stock shaft length is 45.25 inches.

i25 Fairway Woods

18fd4842261d9c46f6ad07b27f8fc8a2

Like the i25 driver, the i25 fairway woods have a center of gravity that is more forward than the G25 models. That decreases the amount of spin the fairway woods produce, leading to a lower launch and flatter overall trajectory.

While the i25 fairway woods are made from the same 17-4 stainless steel as their predecessors, they offer faster ball speeds thanks their thinner and slightly taller faces. The saved weight from their faces, as well as their bodies, also gives the i25 fairway woods a 7 percent improvement in MOI over the i20 fairway woods.

[youtube id=”kKNzb_MaCyw” width=”620″ height=”360″]

Like the i25 driver, the fairway woods have Ping’s patented racing stripes on their crowns, tungsten weighting on the rear portion of the soles and adjustable hosels. They’re available in three different lofts, S3W (14 degrees), 3W (15 degrees) and 5W (18 degrees), and offer the same PWR shaft options as the i25 driver.

i25 Hybrids

9c6a82d66a28cce16a115bdc54430918

The i25 hybrids are designed to be the most versatile hybrids the company has ever created thanks to their more compact overall shape and reduced bulge and roll.

According to Jertson, reducing the bulge and roll, or the curvature of the faces of the hybrids, gives golfers more control over their trajectory. For example, on a knockdown shot, Jertson said the 20-inch roll on the i25 hybrid will deliver less loft at impact than the 14-inch roll on the G25 hybrid, resulting in the desired lower-launching shot.

Like the i20 hybrids, the new models are cast from 17-4 stainless steel. But they have a more-forward hosel axis, adding offset to the clubs that will help golfers create a higher launch angle. For that reason, the lofts of the hybrids were strengthened one degree from their predecessors to 17, 19 and 22 degrees. A 26-degree hybrid has also been added to the lineup, and both it and the 22-degree model have a center of gravity that is positioned closer to their faces to help flatten their trajectories.

df41acc468e12df6064322437e452627

While the hybrids do not feature the racing stripe that is on the crown of the i25 driver and fairway woods, they have a straighter leading edge and a more squared off toe that will help golfers with their alignment.

The stock shafts for the i25 hybrids include a PWR 80 (R, S and Tour S) and PWR 90 (S, Tour S and Tour XS), which are designed to create the same swingweight regardless of what weight or flex is chosen.

Ping’s i25 driver ($399), fairway woods ($249) and hybrids ($219) are currently available for pre-order, and will hit stores in mid-February.

 

Click here to see what GolfWRX members are saying about the i25 lineup in the forums.

Your Reaction?
  • 11
  • LEGIT1
  • WOW5
  • LOL0
  • IDHT0
  • FLOP0
  • OB0
  • SHANK0

45 Comments

45 Comments

  1. Geoffrey1992

    May 28, 2017 at 12:52 am

    This post is on 12 spot in google’s search results, if you want more traffic, you should build more backlinks
    to your website, there is one trick to get free, hidden backlinks from authority forums, search on youtube; how to get hidden backlinks from
    forums

  2. Jim

    Jun 6, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    I game the i25 with motore speeder 7.2 tour spec x flex and it is ridiculous . I also have that shaft in a g25 15 3 wood again disgusting long low flat bombs that run with the driver and the ability of low and long or high and long with the 3 wood im impressed

  3. JEFF

    May 16, 2014 at 2:08 am

    Demo day- My ANSER 9.5 Ahina 70 X vs i25 9.5 TS = ANSER wins by a lot!

  4. michael

    May 12, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    I’m glad the i20 is still available for custom ordering. I really don’t like the “racing stripe” on the i25.

  5. Joel

    May 4, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    I tried the i25 on the range at my club and loved it. When you hit it on the screws the ball explodes of the club. I was hitting pines at the end of the range on the fly. Look, feel, and sound was amazing.

  6. Hamish

    Mar 15, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    I am ‘Bombing’ the i25 Driver 9.5 / 75 Tour Stiff.
    I am 105mph, fast tempo. The shaft is approx 45 3/8, D2, 264cpm.
    The club feels firm and stable but not boardy. I was going to get the stiff but the tour stiff was a better fit. I bombed some 300+ downwind today. Ha! traded the block solid, low launching adams xtd 10.5 and never looked back!…
    PING i25 all the way! their internal weighting MOI is better and the club feels more stable on off center hits. Ping are quality, not just the latest marketing design of others. Trade your R1 for the i25

    • Hamish

      Mar 24, 2014 at 6:07 pm

      I re-shafted to a Fijikura F1 65x @ 45.5 / D5 / 271cpm N1…and gained another 10yards and higher launch. Its a Monster Looong.
      Don’t listen to the naysayers PERIOD! get this combo

  7. JEFF SMITH

    Mar 5, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    Ping has decided to go 100% china. Super cheap shafts and basically the same club as last year including the i25 irons. They make some really neet hats to with big dumb stripes….. looks like something you would win at a carnival!

    • Cliff

      Mar 6, 2014 at 4:53 am

      Until a few months ago I played I20 irons and G25 driver, 3 wood and hybrid. I am an 8 handicap with a driver swing speed of between 94 and 98mph average so I am by no means a big hitter with most of my drives carrying around 230 and running out around 240-250. Anyway two months ago I changed my driver, 3 wood and hybrid to Titleist 913D2 driver with stock 72 stiff whiteboard shaft, then 17 and 21 degree 913 hybrids with stiff shafts (no 3 wood now). Titleist goes both straighter and around 5 to 10 yards further carry and more roll out in each club. I love my I20 irons with standard regular CFS shaft however, my swing speed has gradually improved this past year. I tested in Florida last month on the Swing monitor the new irons and also the new driver against existing. The I25 irons with same CFS regular shaft went almost exactly the same distance, trajectory, spin rates so I can see the clubs have not changed other than looks and maybe tiny not noticeable improvements so if you have I20’s and you like them then don’t waste money on the new ones as they will not better your game. The driver however really did ping off the face and was slightly longer than my Titleist however the strike has to be very sweet in the middle and it didn’t feel so forgiving as the Titleist but it is definitely better than the G25 especially distance wise. I would recommend the I25 driver and I do like the “Naff” stripes but I wont buy it as my 913D2 is very similar and only a few months old.I have actually last week now upgraded my irons to Ping S55 with Project X 5.5 shafts and these are a different gravy altogether. lovely trajectory and extra distance on the range but really have to hit them in the middle so I just hope I am consistent enough and can get on with them in actual play otherwise they will be on ebay and my I20’s back in the bag! Hope this exhaustive message hasn’t bored anyone too much and may be of some help!

    • SBoss

      Apr 2, 2014 at 9:05 pm

      Jeff, You don’t know what your talking about. My new Ping S55 irons are simply the best I’ve ever hit and the I25 irons are fantastic as well. I hit the XS I25 Driver and crushed it, hitting it 10-yards beyond my Amp Cell Pro, which is plenty long. I’m not as straight with the I25 driver so I need to find the right shaft before I buy it.

      I’m checking out the I25 19 degree this weekend and I’ll be shocked if it isn’t a great club. Ping makes quality equipment and their latest releases are a grand slam. I don’t care if they make them in China, Brazil, Nigeria, or East Bumble. I care about the quality of the equipment and it’s the best I’ve experienced in my 30+ years of playing golf.

      If your going to write a review, it might be a good idea to really know the equipment. And it really doesn’t matter where its made if it does a tremendous job and lasts.

  8. killerbgolfer

    Feb 14, 2014 at 12:26 pm

    How does the i25 driver compare to the Anser driver I’m currently playing? Which would be longer?

    • robert

      Sep 20, 2014 at 9:40 pm

      The i25 is longer! I have both and also the G25, and the old Rapture V2 driver, and the i25 is longer.
      It is always best you try different shafts and see which one fits you better.

  9. Ben

    Feb 7, 2014 at 4:53 pm

    Forgive me if this is a dumb question but Golf magazine says the i25 driver face angle is slightly open. Anyone know if this is true? With those racing stripes as a aiming guide this seems odd to have an open face. Thanks

    • Joe Golfer

      Mar 16, 2014 at 1:14 am

      That’s a good point. If one changes the face angle slightly using the adjustable hosel, I wonder if that changes the appearance of the lines on top of the clubhead?

  10. Brian

    Jan 23, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    I took a picture of the i25 driver so people could see how subtle they look in my fitting bay.

    http://pic.twitter.com/OiXtXlm7Lw

  11. Brian Cutler

    Jan 18, 2014 at 11:49 pm

    I hit the i25 lineup this week and I fell in love. I expected I would, but the line exceeded my expectations.

    I gained 3 mph of ball speed on a 7 iron vs my i10. I also raised my low launch and lowered my high spin.

    I was blown away by the driver and my improvement in ball speed. I didn’t have the chance to hit the shaft that I will end up with, and once I get the final product it will assuredly give me a few more yards.

    My first ball with the driver was hit towards the toe, however it beat my best ball speed on existing driver.

    My existing driver was extensively custom fit in the fall. I assure you my G25 10.5+ Aldila Rip’d NV X 1/2” tip stiff was maximized for my game. My best ball speed on that driver is 170. I recall once seeing Tiger at 175 mph and have always hoped to get there. The G25 added 4 mph over my previous i20.

    So my first swing with i25 pwr 75 s shaft (I play an X with extra tip trimming) was 170.1 mph of ball speed. I look to the PING rep and tell him I missed it, and there’s more. I hit the next one a little better and get 173 out of it, then 175, then 177, 178, 178, 175…. I am in love! The spin rate was in line with my G25, and once I get my upgraded shaft I believe I will be hitting it 14-18 yards longer. Did I say I was in love?

    Also, I believe this stock offering is going to be a big hit. Anyone on plane under 100 mph clubhead speed can play the stock shaft. Players who come over the top and have excessively high spin might benefit from upgraded low spin shaft options. In my case I average 117 mph club speed and I along with liking the feel I gain confidence in playing an Aldila X shaft, often tip trimmed. As always though I was thoroughly impressed with the stock shaft.

  12. Jeff Smith

    Jan 11, 2014 at 10:24 am

    It will be tough to leave my anser driver and g25 fairways…….a racing stripe really?

  13. MJ

    Jan 4, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    If it helps me line up better I’m all for it! I want to know I am aimed where I think I’m aimed. I’ll try em. I know it will hit well. Ping makes quality stuff!

  14. Skippy

    Jan 4, 2014 at 2:46 am

    The i25 driver and woods are totally underwhelming. The driver is basically an adjustable i20 driver(not a bad thing), but with stupid looking racing stripes. The i25 woods and hybrids are a step backwards IMO.

    I’d be surprised if Ping sells even a 1/10 the amount of I25 as the G25.

    • Psimmons

      Feb 11, 2014 at 10:06 pm

      Disagree. I compared the i25 side by side with the Covert 2.0, TM SLDR, and Big Bertha Alpha. The i25 was, by far, the best of the bunch. Most solid, best feel, best look at setup. You name it. It was at least 15 yds longer with 3-5mph better clubhead speed than any of the others. I wanted to like the others better because, quite frankly, I already purchased the Covert and Big Bertha and have not received them yet. I will be listing them both for sale immediately on Ebay and flip them for an i25 with the stock tour x-stiff. My clubhead speed ranged 117-121 and it flat out felt better. Covert and alpa feel spongy in comparison. I’m not a fanboy loyal to any brand. I game 4 different brands in my bag. This club is fantastic. The flat black paint scheme is great. Can’t say enough good about it. I wish I was wrong because it would save me a ton of dough, but I’m not. Maybe not for everyone, but if you carry substantial clubhead speed, this one is the one.

      • Psimmons

        Feb 11, 2014 at 10:07 pm

        Sorry, I said clubhead speed when I meant to say ball speed at the beginning of my post.

  15. Joe Golfer

    Jan 4, 2014 at 12:30 am

    It seems that most folks are not fond of the “racing stripes”.
    I gotta be honest. I sort of like them.
    But I’m just a guy who gets out a few times per month, shoots between 88-92 on most days.
    If it was some wild color, like orange or yellow, it would look terrible (Taylor Made). Or if the head was vivid red, then ugh (Nike).
    But the stripe seems to be a very muted color, allowing the clubhead to still look classy.
    Of course, if sales are poor, then those who dislike the stripes need only wait until the next model comes out.
    I’d like to see a bit more variety in the stock shafts that Ping offers than what they’ve been doing lately, especially with regard to lowering the torque values of their stock shafts and “no cost upgrade” alternatives. While I like their idea of using a high balance point shaft to keep the swingweight reasonable while using slightly heavier clubhead weights, I just don’t think the current shaft options are that great.

  16. cmasty

    Jan 3, 2014 at 8:27 pm

    The i25 Drivers and fairways are going to flop. The racing stripe flies in the face of ping’s traditional, loyal customer.

    The i25 irons on the other hand will do fairly well, to the extent that a ‘sequel’ type club can do well.

    • Brian Cutler

      Jan 18, 2014 at 11:50 pm

      The racing stripe is very subdued when it’s in your hand. I hated it at first in the pics. It grew on me instantly when I hit it.

    • Psimmons

      Feb 11, 2014 at 10:08 pm

      Nope, wrong. The driver will NOT fail, trust me. Ping’s traditional, loyal customer will appreciate quality.

    • SBoss

      Apr 2, 2014 at 9:13 pm

      It’s not “flopping”…it’s a huge hit. I always say that it’s best to actually hit clubs before you make predictions. Because if a club is truly great, it could be pink with blue polka dots and it would sell like crazy. Smart players want performance.
      BTW, the racing stripes look great in person.

      • AC930

        Jun 7, 2014 at 12:38 am

        I didn’t picture myself liking the racing stripe. After all, the golf swing is circular motion. It is great though once I tried it… I need that stripe. There are a lot of great drivers out there but this I25 is going a mile for me – LONG. Straight into a strong wind it is amazing – the ball ignores the wind and flies straight. Thanks Ping!

  17. Mike

    Jan 2, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    Go faster stripes, heh. What the heck? TM left graphics out in recent models so not sure why ping need to jump on the bandwagon now. The hybrid is still a classic club though but not too much different to the to i20.

  18. Matt

    Jan 2, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    LOL… Thought the stripe on top was a misprint/weird shadow until I saw the FW pics.

  19. LorenRobertsFan

    Jan 2, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    The I25/G25 face picture shows a non-adjustable driver for the G25.. Wrong label? It looks like an I20

    • John

      Jan 2, 2014 at 2:59 pm

      That means it’s doing its job. The hosel on the g25 and I25 is supposed to blend into the head like that. If you look at all the pics, you can see the plus symbol on some of them where you adjust.

      • LorenRobertsFan

        Jan 3, 2014 at 12:13 am

        They removed the pic but it was a long glued hosel. No big deal

  20. markb

    Jan 2, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    While I probably won’t try the i25 since I don’t see any reason why I should expect to see improvement over the g25, I like the muted racing stripe and I think it will aid set up alignment. I’ve tried painting alignment stripes on driver heads and it’s a two man job. First the users has to hold the club and hit it until he thinks he’s got the head correctly opened or closed to produce straight flight, then the 2nd guy has to lay down tape in a line that looks perpendicular to the eye of the guy still gripping the club, nudging the line this way and that around the curvature of the back. It’s tricky.

  21. jc

    Jan 2, 2014 at 11:37 am

    hit the g series AND the Anser series before you jump into the I series.
    A ping rep told me that Bubba and Hunter use the G series because it is more forgiving than the others.

  22. TJ

    Jan 2, 2014 at 10:11 am

    I really hope that the Rapture 3 wood does not have the racing stripe. I guess nothing a little matte black paint can’t fix.

  23. joro

    Jan 2, 2014 at 9:38 am

    Those designers must be great if it took them 3 years to figure how to make a straight line for the “racing stripes”, and why did the figure that would help. A straight back line promotes an over the top swing.

    • Psimmons

      Feb 11, 2014 at 10:09 pm

      Graphics……TM put them on top, now everybody wants to. Simple as that.

  24. Come on

    Jan 2, 2014 at 9:34 am

    3 years to perfect painted stripes? Seems like something that could be done in a couple weeks by some intelligent fellows. Even by trial and error an auto body shop couldn’t take more than a couple months. I don’t think throwing out there that it took you 3 years to perfect stripes is something to be proud of.

    And I love how every advancement whether it’s MOI or forward CG is always about more distance, even if the primary purpose is accuracy or consistency. Heck, if you want more consistent distance learn to hit the sweet spot more often. Every 1 mph of swing speed increase is 2-3 yards gained… work on your technique and fitness and you’ll be able to hit that old driver in the closet farther and more consistent than any of these new clubs.

  25. GJR

    Jan 2, 2014 at 9:23 am

    I’ll say it..I’m actually interested in this BECAUSE of the racing stripe. I’ve never broken 80, but I almost never shoot above 90 either. One of my biggest issues is alignment. This looks like something that would be perfect for someone like me that struggles to get their body and club aligned correctly. Two years ago I narrowly chose the G20 over the i20 driver and I absolutely love my G20. It’s long and forgiving for me and I love the feel of it at impact. This new i25 has me curious and I’m sure I’ll be giving it a long look and multiple comparisons to my G20.

    • Fred

      Jan 2, 2014 at 1:25 pm

      GJR, what on earth are you doing here on WRX if you’ve never broken 80? From what I’ve discerned in my time here, everyone on this site is at least scratch or better. That’s a serious load of courage to admit that here, man. Bravo.
      Perhaps, someday you’ll get good enough to complain that you can’t get the Tour-only gear that your game demands.

      • GJR

        Jan 2, 2014 at 4:08 pm

        Hey Fred,

        LOL.

        Now to be fair, I’ve only been playing golf for 5 years. I took it up when I turned 30 after playing baseball for 25 years so I’m still learning how to perfect my own swing and iron out a lot of rough edges. We can’t all be scratch golfers. 99% of us shoot 95-110 every time out. There is no way that only the 1% are posting around here. Besides, while I’d love to be a scratch golfer some day, I’d settle for just being the best guy in my foursome consistently. Happy New Year Fred.

      • Geoffrey Alter

        Jan 2, 2014 at 6:12 pm

        That is very funny… You would think by most posts that everyone is that good. I myself play the I20, and I absolutely love it. I find it to be forgiving and beautiful to look at. Don’t see the need to upgrade for adjustability. I am not a scratch player, but do break 80. I also get annoyed by the paint of golfing testosterone displayed here from time to time. I find it mildly amusing as well. GJR, keep playing, learning and enjoying. I actually like to be the worst player in my group. A good way to learn. As a 5, I usually fall somewhere in the middle. And I don’t have any tour issue clubs… Although, I do find it a benefit to have my clubs fitted, and I do think getting the correct after market shaft is important. But you don’t need to spend 400 on a shaft to find improvement.

        • GJR

          Jan 7, 2014 at 9:32 am

          Funny you mention the $400 shaft, Geoff. I was at my local big box golf retailer last week and was hitting the Titleist 913D2 9.5 with three premium shafts – a Blue Mitsubishi, a Black Mitsubishi, and some black and green Aldila shaft. All three of them were on average, 15 yards shorter vs the Ping Answer 9.5 with the stock stiff shaft. I realize I should be hitting the same club face with all shaft options but I was expecting the Titleist driver to be longer because of the better shafts.

          • robert

            Sep 20, 2014 at 9:38 pm

            Ping has the best stock shafts. I have tried a few of the premium shafts.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.

Equipment

WRX Spotted: New TaylorMade P790 UDI

Published

on

It’s Open Championship week and that means course conditions are the talk of the town. Firm, fast, and windy conditions are expected on the links of Portrush, so we will be seeing a lot of players using driving irons that they might not otherwise play with week to week on the PGA Tour.

Not only are driving irons a hot item for players, but for OEMs launching new and prototype versions including TaylorMade, which has a new P790 UDI in some bags including Mr. Tiger Woods (credit to Rob Brooks on Instagram for the spot).

Like with many clubs just being seeded to tour, we don’t have official comment from the team at TaylorMade…but, like many times before, we have a couple of ideas based off the cosmetics of what might be in store if and when this thing comes to retail.

Some history: It’s been a while since TaylorMade introduced a new UDI (Ultimate Driving Iron) to its lineup.  There was the GAPR Low, which was very UDI “like” but the UDI as a whole never had an adjustable hosel. (There were Tour Issue versions of the GAPR Lo that had a fixed hosel and no adjustability)

The original (2017) P790 UDI

The “just-spotted 2020 (?)” version

The most recent UDI was the original P-790, but this new version has some distinct differences

  • Thinner sole. Based off the pictures, this new P-790 UDI has a thinner sole with more camber to help improve turf interaction. More camber and well-utilized bounce make any club more playable in varying conditions.
  • Shorter blade length. There is no such thing as computer screen calipers but from what we can tell when comparing side by side the new version is shorter. A shorter blade length means a CG closer to the hosel and more workability.
  • Higher toe. Just like the shorter blade length, a higher toe is often more appealing to more players (better players are generally the target for these types of clubs) and what that also “potentially” does is raise the CG. A higher CG will produce lower launching shots BUT with more spin (workability). To counter act the potential extra spin loft adjustments can be made pretty easily, since loft is one of the biggest factors in creating spin.

The one thing that is harder to compared is whats going on inside of this UDI (obviously). There is a screw in the toe, so it can be assumed that there is some sort of foam or material that helps support the face and improve the acoustics of this face thin-faced iron.

Just like we wait for the first group off early Thursday morning at Portrush, we’re just going to have to wait to see what’s really going on this new UDI too.

Your Reaction?
  • 12
  • LEGIT4
  • WOW2
  • LOL0
  • IDHT1
  • FLOP0
  • OB0
  • SHANK5

Continue Reading

Equipment

Forum Thread of the Day: “Tiger Woods with a new Scotty Cameron at The Open”

Published

on

Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from No Gimmes who was quick to spot Tiger Woods preparing for this week’s Open Championship with a new Scotty putter. Woods has also been seen warming up for this week’s event at Royal Portrush with his old faithful on the greens, but our members have been discussing the thinking behind the 15-time-major champion’s potential change, as well as the putter itself.

*Photos from Golf Central’s ‘Live From The Open’ coverage

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • TheMoneyShot: “I’m really surprised he is making the switch. Let’s see if it’s in the bag come Thursday.”
  • Hedgehog: “That topline and the alignment aid and all the smooth lines, gorgeous!”
  • MuniPukeLife: “Makes sense as his trusty NP2 is super light by today’s putter standards.”

Entire Thread: “Tiger Woods with a new Scotty Cameron at The Open”

 

Your Reaction?
  • 6
  • LEGIT0
  • WOW0
  • LOL1
  • IDHT0
  • FLOP0
  • OB0
  • SHANK6

Continue Reading

Equipment

Mizuno T20 wedges: Let’s get spinning

Published

on

Spin.

We’re always trying to reduce it with our driver and increase it with our wedges for maximum control, but with the rules of golf being so strict, how do actually achieve a performance gain? Simple engineering…

This is the Mizuno T20 wedge.

It’s been a few years since we have seen a T (teardrop) wedge from our friends at Mizuno, and there is good reason.

Let’ get into a quick history lesson: before the JPX900 series was introduced, Mizuno had quietly been realigning the product cycles of the MP and JPX lines. You might remember back a few years ago now before the MP18s hit the scene that there was a bit of a lull in the MP line—so much, in fact, there was even a thread here on GolfWRX asking “Is Mizuno not making MP irons anymore?”

It was a naturally curious question to a company that always had very standardized release cycles, but it was a long-term play that has paid off tremendously. We now get “T” wedges with MP irons (MP20s to be exact), and we should (from everything I know) continue to see “S” Silhouette (more rounded profile) wedges with future JPX lines.

Before we get to what’s new, how about we first talk about what will be staying the same

  • Grain Flow Forged HD – like all new Mizuno irons, the T20s are made using the same forging process to increase the density of the material in the clubhead for an improved solid feel.
  • Boron – this little element when added to the 1025e mild carbon steel used in the wedges (we’re talking trace amounts equating to 3ppm – parts per million) increases the strength of the material by 30 percent—how crazy is that for chemistry? This improves groove life and has ZERO effect on club feel.
  • Variable Width & Depth Quad Cut Grooves – Like previous T and S wedges, the T20s will have quad cut grooves that will vary in shape based on the loft of the club. Lower lofted wedges are more narrow and deeper, while higher lofted wedges are wider and more shallow since impact happens at lower speeds this increases spin consistency.
  • Same beautiful Teardrop profile from address

So what’s new?

Flow. Just like the MP20s, engineers are bringing more a more extreme CG (center of gravity) shifting philosophy, or as Mizuno explains it, increased vertical moment of inertia to the wedges. As much as you (well maybe not “you,” depending on who you are) might think “a wedge is just a wedge” and loft is the only deciding factor for spin, you couldn’t be further from the truth. By relocating the CG throughout the set and changing the sweet spot height, engineers can further alter the launch and spin precisely for each loft.

It’s about gear effect—the higher you hit above the CG the less spin the ball with have, and the closer to or lower you make impact compared to the CG the more spin you will create. Either way these are wedges, so a 50 degree, for example, is still going to spin, but it is now more controllable (think less likely to ballon or get too high on full shots). On the other side of the equation, a 60-degree wedge will allow for even MORE trajectory and spin control for the low flying quick checkers with zip.

Now about that spin.

By the Rules of Golf, you can’t make grooves sharper, you can’t increase their volume, and you can only have so much surface roughness (sorry but that old Spin Doctor wedge is HIGHLY NON-conforming). So what do you do? You change the way you think about that surface roughness…

Hydroflow Micro Grooves

Instead of traditional laser etching parallel to the grooves, Mizuno engineers took a concept from the high-performance tire world and went perpendicular to the grooves and parallel to the direction the ball moves up the face to channel moisture away. This directional tread has proven to increase spin on shots especially in conditions with moisture up to 1,200 RPM (on a 60-yard shot), that’s a very tangible number. It’s not just about spin either: the more the friction that can be created also means more control on launch angle and less of a “floating” ball flight. That’s how those low zippers keep zippin’!

Don’t think for a second that Mizuno just changed the etching and was done with it. The process went through multiple iterations to figure out how they could improve its life (beyond the boron) and the solution was to etch before the chroming process to elongate the lifespan. The other groovy take for the T20s is the actual reconfiguration of the grooves. To get the bottom groove closer to the leading edge without having it disorient the overall look of the club and making it appear that the heel or toe is thinner on one side. The lowest groove has been shortened and centered.

All of these refinements; CG, micro-grooves, and reconfigured scoring lines add up to one thing: more control and improved shotmaking with your wedges.

Finishes, specs, and grinds

The wishes of many have been answered when it comes to the T20s, there will be a RAW finish (happy dance time) along with traditional chrome and the signature blue ion. Leftys will only be able to get chrome, but all the same options will be available as far as lofts and grinds.

Coming in lofts from 46-60 degrees, the grind options progress depending on the loft and bounce. Going from full-soled in the lower lofts to more aggressive back edge, and heel-toe relief in the 60 degree. These sole shapes came directly from Mizuno’s craftsman that worked with players and prototypes to determine exactly how the bounce and sole shapes should work in harmony.

All of this has come together to create Mizuno’s finest wedge to date.

Your Reaction?
  • 66
  • LEGIT4
  • WOW12
  • LOL1
  • IDHT0
  • FLOP2
  • OB1
  • SHANK1

Continue Reading

19th Hole

Facebook

Trending