WRX Forum Buzzz
FTF: Drivers of today vs. drivers of 10 years ago; WRXer in a pro event
The GolfWRX forums exist so golfers have access to the latest equipment releases, hottest discussions, real equipment reviews, best instruction, new technologies and everything golf you can imagine. So if you love golf, the GolfWRX forums are your sanctuary.
In the From the Forums weekly feature, we bring you the hottest, most buzz-worthy topics from our forums for your convenience. I’ll be your trusty tour guide to navigate the latest buzz. Here’s a peek behind the curtain into golf’s sanctuary.
Moore on Tour: Questions for GolfWRX’s Tour photographer
Greg Moore has been on-tour and inside-the-ropes at the vast majority of PGA Tour events for the past 10 years taking equipment photos and making a lot of friends along the way. His perspective is always appreciated in the forums, and now, there’s a thread for WRXers to ask Greg questions. Awesome thread.
Today’s drivers vs. drivers from 10 years ago
User EmperorPenguin poses an interesting question based on a debate that often goes on in the forums: How much better are today’s drivers than models from 10 years ago? In other words, what’s the net gain for the average player from the period of COR and CC limits until the present.
He offered an interesting anecdote
“I was thinking about meeting Tom Lehman at Poppy Hills when he was playing for The First Tee Open two years ago. I was looking at the driver he was practicing with, and to my surprise it was the TaylorMade R7 Superquad. Superquad? That driver was released in 2007. I asked him why he was using that driver instead of a newer driver like the SLDR or the R11s and he answered,quite simply, “I tried the new stuff and I couldn’t find anything better.” This implies that today’s drivers are at least to some extent overrated.”
Hot takes on Oakmont
The U.S. Open hasn’t even started yet and the hot takes are rolling in. Jimbonecrusher mentioned Gary Woodland saying that in many places on the course, you can’t see your ball in the rough when standing right next to it. Then he asked: “Does the USGA secretly get enjoyment out of watching the best players in the world make bogey or shoot numbers that the governing body usually shoots in their Saturday group?”
What do you think about U.S. Open venues and set-up philosophy?
WRXer playing in a pro tournament!
Richard, aka Forged4Ever (who should have some special reverential status in the forums) started a thread bringing this to our attention: User Goobers80 (Samantha Perrotta) played in her first professional event at the Symetra Tour’s Fuccillo KIA Capital Championship at Capital Hills last week. She didn’t make the cut, but the experience was a positive one, and she offers her perspective in the forums.
See the thread for all the details.
Who’s the best at his best: Day, Spieth, or McIlroy?
Pretty self-explanatory thread here from the Tour Talk forum: Relative to each player’s best stretches or “A” game, who’s No. 1 of the Big-Three. Great debate!
Equipment
Best ‘forgiving’ wedges – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been discussing the most forgiving wedges on the market. WRXer ‘aaronpoling’ lays out his current setup and what he’s currently considering, saying:
“I am looking at getting new wedges, but looking for a forgiving wedge.
I currently play Ping G25 50°, MD4 54° and 58°. I used to play the CBX2 in the 50°, 54° and 58° and liked them a lot; but like any good dad, my son took them.
I am currently looking Callaway’s CB12 and Cleveland’s CBZ. Anyone have thoughts on these? Or recommendations of other wedges that I should check out?”
And our members have been weighing in with their thoughts and recommendations in response, with one brand coming out emphatically on top.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- boggyman: “CBZs are amazing wedges!”
- drewbens: “Agreed, the Cleveland CB wedges are great! Already had a CBX Full Face 2 54 and recently added a 50 and 58 (for well under $100 a piece). Was chipping so well last week that my brother-in-law asked if the wedges were legal. Definitely underrated wedges for those of us that are not scratch golfers.”
- BogeyTed: “Get Cleveland CBX/CBZ. Very underrated clubs.”
Entire Thread: “Best ‘forgiving’ wedges – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
I built the worst fitting clubs ever – GolfWRXers discuss
In our forums, our members have been reacting to a WRXer who claims to have built the “worst fitting clubs ever.” ‘dlow206’ recounts his experience with plenty of insightful findings for where he can go better next time in a detailed post, saying:
“Here’s my story of building the worst fitting clubs ever (for me). And my findings of what a better fit is.
I am short in stature, as well as a very short wrist to floor of 30.5″. I went down a rabbit hole of wanting to try irons 1″ shorter of more than standard length. Given the shorter lengths, the swingweights would be super light unless I added back a ton of weight to the heads, but I don’t like adding an extreme amount of weight back to the heads, so I decided to compensate with heavier shafts (115 grams instead of 95). Played with this set for a while and was hitting all irons extremely poorly. Thin, fat, right, right, left. My swing didn’t deteriorate that much because I was hitting my driver well, woods well, etc.
Went back to my older set of irons, playing at standard length, and my iron play improved immediately. Since then, have been doing more testing, while paying more attention to different possible variables. What I have found is I actually prefer lighter total weight with relatively normal or slightly heavier swingweights. Did a recent fitting and found that 85 gram shafts were better for me than 95 grams with standard length and relatively standard swingweights.
Still trying to dial in a final iron shaft choice, so have a few contenders that I will be testing. Will be moving away from my current Steelfiber i95 S parallel to lighter and softer
- MMT 80 parallel R – worked pretty well in a limited number of swings at a fitting
- Fujikura Travil 85 R – the fitter liked the Axiom 95 R for me at Club Champion, but i didn’t love the effort required to swing them. If there was a 85 Axiom, that would probably have been a great fit. So i am going try a Travil 85 R which is japan only
- Steelfiber i80 CW R – i have been playing Steelfibers for a long time, so need to give one Steelfiber shaft a shot
Given I do club building work, I am going to build all of these shafts with the All-Fit universal iron adapters to pair with a Srixon 7 iron head for testing. With these adapters, there isn’t a swingweight issue because the amount of weight from drilling out is about equivalent to the universal adapter components.”
And our members have been sharing their reactions in our forum.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- Mikey_HACKilroy: “That length cut costs you a fair amount in swing points. I’d posit the length mattered more than the weight because a 115g shaft isn’t going to actually add enough back after cutting an inch off. Does it mean 115 would ultimately work? Hard to say. Maybe try a 1/2″ cut and add 2g to the head to compensate assuming the 7i is 37″ long. Maybe that will feel better. It translates to the same ~D2 you’re swinging at with the 95g shafts (estimated based on common weight, but you can weigh your parts on your own obviously).”
- Stuart_G: “Your process is good – keep at it and trust it.”
Entire Thread: “I built the worst fitting clubs ever – GolfWRXers discuss”
Equipment
PXG Secret Weapon Version 2 mini driver lands on USGA conforming list – GolfWRXers react
A second version of PXG’s Secret Weapon has this week landed on the USGA’s conforming list, much to the interest of our members.
The original version of the brand’s Secret Weapon launched in January of 2025, with the second version also featuring four distinct weight ports in the head and coming with 13-degree of loft.
In our forums, our members have been assessing the new version and sharing their thoughts.
Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.
- DTorres: “Kinda looks like the face on the new one might be slightly deeper. Little bit more rounded leading edge.”
- snagy2000: “The current version is REALLY good, long…This one looks like they’re bringing some lightning tech to it…”
- SEP1006: “Agree with this, hard to tell from that angle but looks like the face may be the same as the Lightning. If that’s the case may have to give this a serious look. Absolutely love my 2wd which is also a 13* loft. But that Lightning Tour Mid Driver face is hot and forgiving.”
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TONEY P
Apr 1, 2017 at 9:31 am
The new equipment is nicer but some of the older drivers were awesome stix. The 983k, 905R, Ping Raptor, R9 and R7tp are good drivers that could and would be played today if they still produced them. How much have irons changed in last 10 years really. Good clubs are good clubs, as long as you have a good shaft that fits you. Because it’s new doesn’t mean it’s better, that’s why no manner how much you spend you can’t buy a golf game.
Joel Thelen
Jun 13, 2016 at 10:09 am
I’m a proud wrx’er as well “collegegolfer2” . My name is Joel Thelen, and I play full time on PGA Tour Canada. I’m pretty sure we have some other pros on here as well
Walter Scott Mohn
Jun 11, 2016 at 2:08 pm
I have tried several newer drivers in recent years. After all that I am using a 2010 Adams Speedline 9064LD, 6.5* with a 7.5* as my back-up. I have, however, put in new Fuji Evolution 474 shafts in both drivers. I am 75. I hit these old drivers farther and almost as straight as any of the new ones I have tried including, among others, last year’s Callaway Double Black Diamond and Cobra Fly Z. The problems are that experimenting frequently with the new drivers is expensive and the differences in results are usually very small or hard to determine. I do not know of any reviewers that compare new models to prior models. Demo Days can be hard to find and the rep’s often do not have a Trackman or anything sufficiently similar to a Trackman with them. So the hopeful buyer has to make what is usually an uninformed and very expensive decision. 🙁
Chuck D
Jun 11, 2016 at 12:56 am
I’m still playin’ the M2!! You kiddin’ me, that’s awesome for me! True confession, I did return the Kuro and I absolutely loving the Speeder 661! Chopped a 1/2 inch off that bad boy and it’s found a permanent home in the bag………………well until the M tre’ hits store shelves. Anybody got a release date for the M3? Just kidding!!
Korean Slum Lord
Jun 11, 2016 at 12:38 am
Bridgestone J33r (2005) with Whiteboard 73x still longer and accurate FOR ME than any current driver on the GC2. I try them all when newly released – usdm and jdm.
Milo
Jun 10, 2016 at 6:18 pm
I was playing a SuperQuad right up until this year when I grabbed a LTD Pro
Desmond
Jun 10, 2016 at 5:37 pm
It’s apparent the Lehman did not get fitted. Now, Tom, self-fitting just doesn’t work… C’mon, set a better example.
Mike Honcho
Jun 10, 2016 at 2:52 pm
Still playing an ’09 Tour Burner
blink3665
Jun 10, 2016 at 12:04 pm
Go Sam Go!