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‘I was pretty p****d off’ – Justin Thomas on Si-Woo Kim’s shush celebration during feisty Sunday clash

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With the Internationals down four points heading into Sunday singles in the Presidents Cup, The United States threw out their de-facto leader Justin Thomas in the first match of the day. In a match where it was crucial to set the tone, International Team captain Trevor Immelmann surprisingly chose Si Woo Kim to counter Thomas.

The South Korean did not disappoint, and although the United States went on to win pretty comfortably, Kim did his job in defeating Thomas by 1-up.

Tensions ran high throughout the day, with Thomas seemingly upset over Kim’s unwillingness to concede a few short putts early in the match.

It was a bit surprising to see Thomas take exception with Kim’s insistence that he finish out some short putts, considering that the Internationals needed to make up quite a large deficit. Additionally, Thomas had been a stickler all week about giving his opponents anything that bordered on “a gimme”.

After a big par putt on the 15th, a clearly emotional “JT” gave a big fist pump in celebration. Usually quite reserved, Si Woo Kim took notice and quieted the crowd after a big par save to match Thomas.

Once again, Thomas took exception to Si Woo, admitting after the match that he was “p***** off “at Kim’s theatrics.

“Honestly, at the time, I was pretty p***** off,” said Thomas afterwards. “I think when you’re in the moment, when you’re on the other side of it, it’s something that gets you motivated, gets you pumped up a little bit.”

When asked about his reaction to the made putt, Kim said he saw Patrick Reed do the celebration at the 2014 Ryder Cup and wanted to do something to match Thomas’ energy.

“I saw that Patrick [Reed] did it before, and yeah, JT give me fist pump, and then I had to do it. And I had to make it, and I made it. Then, like, yeah, I had to do something. I think that give me more energy.”

After all was said and done, Thomas admitted that Kim had the right to celebrate his victory.

“He hit the shots and made the putts better than I did the last three holes or, really, the last nine holes when he needed to,” said Thomas. “So, I can say whatever I want about it, but he beat me. So he has the upper hand on me. But we won the Cup so that’s all that matters.”

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  1. Pingback: Ian Poulter takes swipe at Justin Thomas over short putt complaints at Presidents Cup – GolfWRX

  2. LL

    Sep 27, 2022 at 6:27 am

    Thomas is typical son of a club pro country club raised trash.

  3. OMC

    Sep 26, 2022 at 4:43 pm

    He and Speith are made for each other. Jordan was asking his opponents if his 2 footers were good – begging for gimmes. I used to like J.T. but now realize he is a whining karen. He and Horshel would be a good pairing. Highlight of the weekend was whiner missing simple 9 footer on perfect green to halve his match w Kim. Barely got to the hole. Needs an oversize Hoodie to hide golfs most punchable face.

    • Ray Neese

      Sep 26, 2022 at 5:28 pm

      Use to be a JT fan but now him and several PGA tour guys have turned into whiners. Get over it. They are spoiled and complain consistently. They expect everything to go their way and when not get out the towel. Suck it up.IMO

  4. Dixie

    Sep 26, 2022 at 2:52 pm

    Hes always been a true little punk and a douch’e on par w/ Dechambeu they deserve each other .LOVE to see him lose like that. PUNK!

  5. Butch Hanke

    Sep 26, 2022 at 2:49 pm

    I bet JT fits perfectly in a spooning position with Kaaaaaddddoooouuuucccchhhhheeee!!!

  6. Shane

    Sep 26, 2022 at 2:42 pm

    The punk got punked…….

  7. dixiedoc

    Sep 26, 2022 at 11:14 am

    JT has always been a little arrogant but he’s getting to be a bore. Remember JT, you have become extremely rich playing a game. Yes you are good at it but in the whole scheme of life you are not as important as you might think you are.

    • Tim

      Sep 26, 2022 at 11:26 am

      I could NOT agree anymore. He is a lot of talk but very little bite. I thought we would see him go off the last 3 holes but Kim flat out beat him. His good ole buddy Tiger would NOT have let that happen – that is for sure.

  8. Mike

    Sep 26, 2022 at 11:08 am

    Hey Sam and Cecil- read the whole article. Justin gives props to Tom Kim at the end of the article.

  9. BobbyteeitUp

    Sep 26, 2022 at 11:05 am

    JT & Billy Ho, the 2 most anal players ever to tee it up….Neither have the stones to hang with the greats so both should stfu.

    JT lives on Tiger’s coattails and Billy Ho is…… just Billy Ho.

  10. Oldlefty70

    Sep 26, 2022 at 11:02 am

    He likes to dish it out but doesn’t like to take it!! ?

  11. Sam

    Sep 26, 2022 at 10:56 am

    Jt’s a Bitc* ..

  12. Cecil Jansen

    Sep 26, 2022 at 10:54 am

    Grow up Justin. That comment is unbecoming of you.

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‘What’s going on?’ – Justin Thomas left frustrated with two officials over ruling at Hero

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During Thursday’s first round of the Hero World Challenge, Justin Thomas called for a rules official and subsequently, a second opinion, on the par-5 9th at Albany Golf Club.

The players were playing lift-clean-and-place, and Thomas’ ball came to rest about 5o yards short of the green in an area where it was difficult to identify if the ball was sitting in the fairway or the rough. The ball had gathered some mud, so if the rules official had decided that his ball was in fact in the rough, he would have to hit a pretty difficult shot given the condition on his golf ball.

“Basically, what’s going on?” Thomas asked the official.

The official told Thomas that the change of color in the grass was indicative of the change of fairway to rough, and therefore he would have to hit his ball as it lied. Thomas argued that the grass was cut to the same length in both spots, therefore the color didn’t matter.

“But you see, what I’m saying, this is also beat down from the carts, but look at how much longer this is than this,” he said before walking over to the thicker grass. “Like see, this is the same height [where his ball was and the apparent fairway.] I totally see it’s down grain and it’s a totally different color, but … the change of the length of grass is just what kind of confused me.”

After relief was denied by the official, “JT” called for a second opinion. While waiting for another official to show up, Thomas was heard saying to his caddie Jim “Bones” Mackay, ““It’s the same exact length, this is not rough.”

When the second rules official came over, he said: “I can see the cutline right here,” and pointed to the different shades of grass that the other official mentioned.

Thomas accepted the decision.

Interestingly, announcer Paul Azinger shared his opinion that the second rules official almost never will disagree with the first rules official’s ruling.

“That second opinion almost never works,” Azinger said to Dan Hicks during the broadcast.

“Really?” Hicks asked.

“Never,” Azinger said. “Very rarely will an official go against another official.”

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Data shows how much more difficult greens become as the day progresses

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For many a golf bettor, betting on the first round leader of any tournament revolves around the early starters.

Even a cursory look at this week’s Australian Open shows the morning wave averaging 1.73 shots better than the afternoon players, resulting in 18 early starters finishing in the top-10 by the end of the day, including current leader David Micheluzzi.

However, over on the South African Open, the roles are reversed, with current leader Thirston Lawrence taking up one of 15 places on the front page of leaderboard for the late starters, who shot around half-a-shot less than the morning groups.

Naturally, there are many factors – wind, temperature, dew, grass-types and, potentially, overall quality of the groupings, but these are variables that can change from day to day.

Step in Lou Stagner, data lead of Arccos Golf and all-round numbers guru.

Stagner does not deal in emotion or factors that cannot be measured. It’s facts, figures and that’s your lot!

He will tell you that from the fairway, 80-yards from the pin, professionals simply don’t get as close as many believe:

On Wednesday, the man who once built a Lego model of Augusta #12, tweeted a table showing the variance in putts made by PGA Tour members under morning and afternoon conditions.

Taking stats over 17 years, the table shows an advantage to the early starters, not by much, but enough to consider.

There are plenty of places to take the stats, with a few respondents asking for a table on grass types through the day – Bent v Bermuda v POA – and that will probably turn up on Stanger’s twitter feed soon.

Of course, on a Sunday, later starters have the pressure of trying to win a tournament, which is why we tend to see flashy rounds from those a few off the pace on Payday, but it is enough to consider when trying to get that illusive three-figure first (or second) round leader.

Either way, two-time major champion, and regular tweeter Justin Thomas, decided this was his chance to get in an early excuse when he’s off late in the day.

Make of what you will. Perhaps the stats will one day include how many of these are for par saves against birdie putts, or is that too much?

Either way, Stagner continues to bombard us with stats that delight and entertain, and that can be no bad thing. Unless you are a buddy of Lou’s…

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Cam Smith fumes at ‘pretty s****y’ opening round at Australian Open

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After an incredible week at the Fortinet Australian PGA Championship, Cameron Smith is off to a rough start at the Australian Open. The Champion Golfer of the Year struggled to hit fairways all day long and finished his round at +1 which is eight shots back of first-round leader David Micheluzzi (-7).

Smith, who received a massive ovation from the crowd, was extremely displeased, calling his play “pretty shitty” as he went from his post-round press conference to the practice range. The 29-year-old also said it was “as bad as I’ve played in a long time”.

“I don’t think it was a mixed bag, I think it was all rubbish to be honest,”

“Maybe some delayed tiredness, maybe. I did feel a little bit foggy out there at times, but it’s not really an excuse, it’s my job to do all that stuff.”

Despite the uninspiring round, the world number three still feels as if he can get back into the event and contend.

“It’s not like I don’t know how to play golf, it was just a bit of a bad day.”

“I’ve just got a few things to clean up, I think. Like I said last week [at the Australian PGA Championship], I felt as though the golf got better every day.”

The Aussie is incredible at recovery shots and finding his way out of trouble. But if he wants to be the first player to win the Australian PGA and Australian Open in the same season since 2011, he needs to start putting the ball in the fairway.

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