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‘Certain guys I can’t stand being here’ – Shane Lowry blasts ‘disruptive’ LIV pros at Wentworth



The friction continues to mount in the lead up to the BMW PGA Championship this week at Wentworth Club.

On Wednesday, Shane Lowry become the next golfer in an ever-growing list of PGA TOUR players to criticize the LIV golfers who are playing in the DP World Tour’s most important event.

Among other reasons, the Irishman said that he feels that the LIV players are taking the spotlight away from the event and what’s really important at Wentworth.

“I don’t like it that they are here. I think to be honest, the one thing that has really annoyed me over the last few months is how disruptive they are all trying to be. Obviously, they are here for world ranking points somewhat, but they are here to be disruptive, and I don’t like it. To be honest, if I put myself in those guys’ shoes, would I be here this week? No, it’s too uncomfortable for me. It is what it is. Like I said it’s the BMW PGA Championship, the biggest event in Europe and we would be talking about that, and we are not. It’s disappointing.”

Similar to what both Jon Rahm and Billy Horschel have said this week, Lowry did acknowledge that there are a few LIV golfers who have the right to playing this week. He also made it clear that there were others who he believes shouldn’t be there.

“There’s some of the guys I kind of don’t mind them being here given what they have done for the Tour over the years,” said Lowry. “There are certain guys I just can’t stand them being here to be honest.

While there are plenty of players Lowry will attempt to avoid, he is known as an affable person who doesn’t like to be confrontational.

“Anybody that knows me, I don’t like confrontation or any of that stuff. I’ll say hello and do my thing. That’s the way I’ll be. Obviously, the lads, I’ve known them for years and some of them became quite good friends over the last few years. But obviously I haven’t seen them in a long time now, don’t hang out with them anymore. Probably won’t be going out for dinner because we haven’t seen each other. But yeah, there are certain lads that I shake hands with and certain hands I wouldn’t.”

The LIV Golf story isn’t going away anytime soon, especially with the Ryder Cup set to begin next year. As of now, it seems as if the LIV players won’t be eligible to participate, but Lowry believes they wouldn’t be a good fit for the team even if they could play.

“I can’t see how they are going to make the team, they are going to need a pick,” the former Open Champion said. “I think without those guys, we still have a good team. With all due respect to a lot of those guys over at LIV, I think they know themselves and that’s why they went to LIV, their Ryder Cup days are probably over. Obviously, they are lined up as next captains but there’s not too many of them that would have too many Ryder Cups.”

With Rory McIlroy, Matt Fitzpatrick and Shane Lowry having all made strong statements in opposition to the LIV players this week, we could be in store for some real drama over the weekend if the leaderboard cooperates.

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  2. Sadie Inward

    Sep 11, 2022 at 11:04 am

    The Shane Lowry Story- “relevant for a few months, back to obscurity, trying to find relevance again” In theatres 9/22.


    Sep 10, 2022 at 8:59 am

    So we’re now seeing that on the PGA tour, not everyone is super ‘buddy-buddy’ w/ each other as the scribes would have you believe (esp on the European tour).

  4. James

    Sep 9, 2022 at 2:28 pm

    All of these PGA golfers statements are just going to make the antitrust lawsuit filed by LIV that much more potent and strong..

    If I were the PGA’s lawyers I would be telling these golfers to shut the heck up.. before they bring the entire PGA crashing down

    The hubris of these country club BGA golfers is amazing..

    • funkaholic

      Sep 28, 2022 at 10:18 am

      You clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

  5. L.White

    Sep 9, 2022 at 10:54 am

    “I don’t like it that they are here, the one thing that has really annoyed me over the last few months is how disruptive they are all trying to be.” “Obviously, they are here for world ranking points somewhat, but they are here to be disruptive…”

    WHAT?? How are they being disruptive? Every move they make is commented on by the media or another player on tour. They don’t stand on the range and start something, but after a while I’d have enough and say something back too. They are there to do their job and earn points. Enough all ready. Lowry and others are coming across like a scorned crazy ex-spouse. And why does the PGA Tour have to be the be all end all to professional golf. Good thing men like Lamar Hunt, Al Davis, Ralph Wilson and others did not listen to ridicule etc…or the NFL would have never become what it is today.

  6. James

    Sep 9, 2022 at 8:39 am

    Damn. I always thought Lowry was chill. Turns out he’s a stick in the mud.

  7. Steph

    Sep 9, 2022 at 7:59 am

    Not sure why the PGA and some of their lackies seem to think they have a monopoly on the game of golf. Lowery and Rory seem particularly butt hurt…

  8. Ned

    Sep 9, 2022 at 6:41 am

    What I’m seeing is Jealousy plain and simple. Those who complain about the LIV players didn’t get the $$$$ offers. Get over it you guys play the game for a living and trying to be righteous about it is BS.

  9. CrashTestDummy

    Sep 9, 2022 at 4:12 am

    Why does he not like a world class field? It is supposed to be the best of the best. It is not an invitational tournament or a mini-tour event.

  10. BirdieKing

    Sep 9, 2022 at 2:37 am

    Sounds like the typical members of a certain blue-haired political party who feel they must have a very public meltdown if they find out their barista doesn’t vote the same way they do.

    It’s really a shame we’ve stopped asking kids to grow the EFF up.

    • CG

      Sep 9, 2022 at 6:35 am

      Keep dreaming. Another trash liberal heard from.

  11. Bob

    Sep 8, 2022 at 1:46 pm

    Ignore the Bonesaw slags, Shane. Not worth it.

  12. To Much Talk

    Sep 8, 2022 at 1:15 pm

    This is a two way street Lowry. Completely possible that people don’t want you there either, but they don’t feel the need to tell the media about it.

  13. Tom K.

    Sep 8, 2022 at 11:27 am

    Snowflake is triggered.

  14. BobbyteeitUp

    Sep 8, 2022 at 11:06 am

    Shane, you (and the PGA Tour) don’t own the professional game of men’s golf. So STFU.

  15. Stacey Abrams Foul Flatulence

    Sep 8, 2022 at 10:44 am

    Stacey and Shane have one thing in common. So Stinky.

  16. FB

    Sep 8, 2022 at 8:56 am

    Get in ma belly.

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‘What’s going on?’ – Justin Thomas left frustrated with two officials over ruling at Hero



During Thursday’s first round of the Hero World Challenge, Justin Thomas called for a rules official and subsequently, a second opinion, on the par-5 9th at Albany Golf Club.

The players were playing lift-clean-and-place, and Thomas’ ball came to rest about 5o yards short of the green in an area where it was difficult to identify if the ball was sitting in the fairway or the rough. The ball had gathered some mud, so if the rules official had decided that his ball was in fact in the rough, he would have to hit a pretty difficult shot given the condition on his golf ball.

“Basically, what’s going on?” Thomas asked the official.

The official told Thomas that the change of color in the grass was indicative of the change of fairway to rough, and therefore he would have to hit his ball as it lied. Thomas argued that the grass was cut to the same length in both spots, therefore the color didn’t matter.

“But you see, what I’m saying, this is also beat down from the carts, but look at how much longer this is than this,” he said before walking over to the thicker grass. “Like see, this is the same height [where his ball was and the apparent fairway.] I totally see it’s down grain and it’s a totally different color, but … the change of the length of grass is just what kind of confused me.”

After relief was denied by the official, “JT” called for a second opinion. While waiting for another official to show up, Thomas was heard saying to his caddie Jim “Bones” Mackay, ““It’s the same exact length, this is not rough.”

When the second rules official came over, he said: “I can see the cutline right here,” and pointed to the different shades of grass that the other official mentioned.

Thomas accepted the decision.

Interestingly, announcer Paul Azinger shared his opinion that the second rules official almost never will disagree with the first rules official’s ruling.

“That second opinion almost never works,” Azinger said to Dan Hicks during the broadcast.

“Really?” Hicks asked.

“Never,” Azinger said. “Very rarely will an official go against another official.”

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Data shows how much more difficult greens become as the day progresses



For many a golf bettor, betting on the first round leader of any tournament revolves around the early starters.

Even a cursory look at this week’s Australian Open shows the morning wave averaging 1.73 shots better than the afternoon players, resulting in 18 early starters finishing in the top-10 by the end of the day, including current leader David Micheluzzi.

However, over on the South African Open, the roles are reversed, with current leader Thirston Lawrence taking up one of 15 places on the front page of leaderboard for the late starters, who shot around half-a-shot less than the morning groups.

Naturally, there are many factors – wind, temperature, dew, grass-types and, potentially, overall quality of the groupings, but these are variables that can change from day to day.

Step in Lou Stagner, data lead of Arccos Golf and all-round numbers guru.

Stagner does not deal in emotion or factors that cannot be measured. It’s facts, figures and that’s your lot!

He will tell you that from the fairway, 80-yards from the pin, professionals simply don’t get as close as many believe:

On Wednesday, the man who once built a Lego model of Augusta #12, tweeted a table showing the variance in putts made by PGA Tour members under morning and afternoon conditions.

Taking stats over 17 years, the table shows an advantage to the early starters, not by much, but enough to consider.

There are plenty of places to take the stats, with a few respondents asking for a table on grass types through the day – Bent v Bermuda v POA – and that will probably turn up on Stanger’s twitter feed soon.

Of course, on a Sunday, later starters have the pressure of trying to win a tournament, which is why we tend to see flashy rounds from those a few off the pace on Payday, but it is enough to consider when trying to get that illusive three-figure first (or second) round leader.

Either way, two-time major champion, and regular tweeter Justin Thomas, decided this was his chance to get in an early excuse when he’s off late in the day.

Make of what you will. Perhaps the stats will one day include how many of these are for par saves against birdie putts, or is that too much?

Either way, Stagner continues to bombard us with stats that delight and entertain, and that can be no bad thing. Unless you are a buddy of Lou’s…

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Cam Smith fumes at ‘pretty s****y’ opening round at Australian Open



After an incredible week at the Fortinet Australian PGA Championship, Cameron Smith is off to a rough start at the Australian Open. The Champion Golfer of the Year struggled to hit fairways all day long and finished his round at +1 which is eight shots back of first-round leader David Micheluzzi (-7).

Smith, who received a massive ovation from the crowd, was extremely displeased, calling his play “pretty shitty” as he went from his post-round press conference to the practice range. The 29-year-old also said it was “as bad as I’ve played in a long time”.

“I don’t think it was a mixed bag, I think it was all rubbish to be honest,”

“Maybe some delayed tiredness, maybe. I did feel a little bit foggy out there at times, but it’s not really an excuse, it’s my job to do all that stuff.”

Despite the uninspiring round, the world number three still feels as if he can get back into the event and contend.

“It’s not like I don’t know how to play golf, it was just a bit of a bad day.”

“I’ve just got a few things to clean up, I think. Like I said last week [at the Australian PGA Championship], I felt as though the golf got better every day.”

The Aussie is incredible at recovery shots and finding his way out of trouble. But if he wants to be the first player to win the Australian PGA and Australian Open in the same season since 2011, he needs to start putting the ball in the fairway.

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