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Major champ urges Cam Smith to turn down reported mammoth offer to join LIV

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Two days after winning the 150th Open Championship, speculation is ramping up as to the potential for Cam Smith to join the LIV Golf Series.

The 28-year-old has the potential to become one of his country’s most decorated golfers, with the green jacket well in reach after being runner-up, third, fifth and 10th in his last five attempts around the hallowed turf.

Now ranked No. 2 in the Official World Golf Rankings, Smith would be the catch of the year for the Greg Norman-led series. Indeed, rumors of an offer of around $100 million to join the Saudi-backed tour is reportedly on the table for the Aussie.

What makes the episode more enthralling was Smith’s response during his winner’s press conference.

When a reporter asked Smith whether he was considering joining the rebel league, the answer was less than convincing:

“I just won the British Open and you’re asking about that? I think that’s … not that good.”

To make matters worse, when pressed to answer if he was in talks with LIV, Smith was very inconclusive:

“I don’t know, mate. My team around me worries about all that stuff. I’m here to win golf tournaments.”

Of course, he’s just won the biggest tournament in the calendar, and on one of the great historic occasions, so he is easy to forgive. However, it hasn’t stopped him from dominating this week’s headlines.

Whilst Smith’s coach, Grant Field, insisted, “The sky is the limit for Cam. I can see more majors in his future if he puts the work in,” fellow Aussie Open winner, Ian Baker-Finch, pleaded with Smith to reject any further advances from the rebels.

The 61-year-old, winner of the Open at Royal Birkdale, said he understood the appeal for both sides, telling the Australian radio station 3AW that:

“I know that they’re talking to him and to many others. I hope he doesn’t (accept) because I think he can leave a great legacy by winning major championships and becoming the best player in the world.”

On the huge money that is reputed to have been offered, the CBS Sports analyst admitted that, “I don’t think he needs the money. I don’t think it’s going to be something he should do. It’s his decision – he’ll be a $100 million guy or more if he did go.”

Baker-Finch didn’t seem convinced by the way Smith answered questions, commenting:

“Does he want to win more majors or does he want the money?” before putting up the case to stay on the main tours.

“I’m hoping that he stays (on the PGA Tour). Justin Thomas and Rory McIlroy and a lot of those guys that still compete and play well in majors and want to win majors and want to leave a legacy. They’re the guys I would be following.”

In a more general swipe at the way the LIV program is being advertised, Baker-Finch again hopes for a change in the way younger players look at the series.

“The guys who go join LIV are going to miss out on the grind, what it takes to be a champion, to play in the great tournaments against the great players,” he said.

“It’s hard work. And you’re not going to be a better player by going and playing 54-hole exhibition matches and getting paid 150-grand to finish last.”

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  1. davyb123

    Jul 30, 2022 at 1:45 am

    The big name players that have gone to LIV, will see their games suffer, if they even care. What is it that Tiger says when his performance is not what everybody wants to see? “I just haven’t been playing as much tournament golf as I need to.”, “I need more Reps”, etc.

    54 holes, guaranteed money, the possibility of no Majors to get ready for, etc., will slowly chip away at ability and performance.

    It’s cool. There are plenty of guys on the PGA, DP World and Korn Ferry tours, that are ready to play more, move up in rankings and become the new faces and superstars.

  2. Thomas Woodward

    Jul 27, 2022 at 8:57 pm

    Cam Smith earned EXEMPTIONS to play the majors and the Players Championship this year. He has a LIFETIME exemption to play The Open, 5 years for the Masters and 10 years for the US Open and PGA Championship. He cannot be denied by anyone to not play in these events. If he keeps on winning Majors, he may be exempt for a long, long time like Tiger was.

    IMHO, LIV Golf is refreshingly entertaining, very competitive, great format and team competition, and NO commercials, I can watch golf uninterrupted, and there’s no one player that gets over exposure to the viewing audience…

  3. Jolter

    Jul 27, 2022 at 4:26 pm

    If they can give world ranking points to Tiger’s funfest in December, then LIV should also be entitled to same. Not saying it is right or wrong, just saying.

  4. Bart Simpson

    Jul 26, 2022 at 11:00 pm

    Henrik – I’m not joining LiV, I’ll be the Ryder cup captain.
    What a dirtbag.

  5. Ian Tarrant

    Jul 22, 2022 at 3:09 pm

    Like the majority, I wish LIV would die – I don’t think it’s good for the game and to one poster’s comment the fans..

    I have no interest seeing ‘fat cats’ dialing it in for 54 hole no-cut exhibs. No storied history will be considered or made w/LIV as it will likely be ‘short-LIV’d’ in the grand scheme and it’s legacy will be the damage done to the sport.

    That said, the longer this drags on the worse it is for Golf. The governing bodies either need to kill LIV fast, or find a way to embrace it Limbo ain’t no good for anyone…

    This is fast going to become Jay, Keith, Fred, Mike and strangely Greg’s legacy as well. Something they surely don’t want. Fix this boys!!

    – Ian

    • Ian Tarrant

      Jul 22, 2022 at 3:12 pm

      Furthermore, don’t give a flying you know what when the 44 year old+’s are doing this. Really where the game has to be concerned is ‘legacy’ players such as Bryson, Brooks and the Cam Smith’s of the world…

      These guys leaving the establishment is the real concern and the clear and present danger to the world order. But again, why these guys are doing this is real head scratcher…

      • Edward

        Jul 29, 2022 at 3:09 pm

        People want LIV to die? LIV, PGA and other tours give more guys the chance to get paid playing pro golf. Golf is for the rich and lots of people who work at courses, the bag room and pro shop get paid peanuts as the rich as them to shine their shoes.

        I heard Cam Smith is being offered $200 million and a LIV tourney in Australia. I think the combo will make him jump ship to LIV.

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  7. Gordy3279

    Jul 22, 2022 at 6:57 am

    All everyone is doing is shelling out for the PGA Tour and DP World Tour. 0% chance if I were Cam Smith I turn down $100mil. Neither would Ian Baker Finch or anyone else for the matter of fact. Also, Rory carrying the torch for the PGA Tour is hilarious. He hasn’t won’t a Major since 2014 and what he says nobody listens too. You can’t even call him the best golfer of his generation. It is easy for Rory or Tiger to turn down the money when $100mil is maybe 15% of their net worth. If the PGA Tour was smart they would just partner with the LIV Tour and be done with it. The NBA and NFL tried doing the same thing with the AFL and ABA. In the end they joined forces and it spring boarded those respective leagues.

  8. Iceman

    Jul 21, 2022 at 11:10 pm

    Can someone please explain to me what the reasoning and basis is for major championships to ban LIV players? Why can’t this just be another tour that co-exists alongside DP World Tour, PGA Tour, and others? And like those tours, have access to majors? Why does golf need to be the linchpin for some social war between Saudi + America? Is the PGA Tour that insecure in their product that they have lobby & retaliate to this degree vs. look inward and find ways to improve their product?

    Maybe I’m narrowed minded, but I just don’t understand the logic behind banning these LIV guys from majors. And I don’t subscribe to the ‘blood-money’ argument when the PGA Tour is tangled up in billion ways with Saudi already. So another reason would be helpful. Thank you!

    • Reality

      Jul 22, 2022 at 9:24 am

      Because the LIV Golf events don’t give world ranking points.

      World Ranking is how the vast majority of players are invited to Majors.

      So for some of the Majors being a former champion will be enough to continue to show up and play, depending on that tournament’s prerogative on the matter.

      LIV Golf has an issue with convincing everyone to allow their events to gather World Ranking points, and notably 2 will be:

      1) Their events are 54 holes, some are team and they are shotgun. Such a dramatic shift from the standard format on all the other global tours means it becomes difficult to adequately judge how many points each event should give.

      2) DP World Tour and PGA Tour are directly opposed to LIV Golf and they’re the real big fish, so they’ll have massive influence over the people behind the World Rankings and likely do everything needed to ensure LIV Golf doesn’t get added.

      However, if LIV Golf does get World Ranking points you still have the issue of them not having enough events to actually have any players ranking high enough to make the Majors outside winning a significant % of the events.

      A 3 day tournament with a smaller field is never going to get the same points as an equal level event of 4 days. That isn’t getting into how they’ll feel about shotgun starts, team events, etc.

      There are only going to be 10 events and then grow to 14 next year, so you barely have any events.

      So with less points per tournament and few tournaments, you end up where even if you got World Ranking points playing LIV Golf you aren’t going to be getting enough to make it to the Majors without a serious number of wins that is just very unlikely to occur.

      The DP World Tour and the PGA Tour currently have the outlook that LIV Golf isn’t one of the Tours that players are allowed to play events on, players are under contracts they knowingly, willingly and happily signed agreeing to those terms. Doesn’t look like they’re going to roll over in the next year or two, if ever, and that is their right to do so. If I become a contractor for Nike and they say you can’t go be a contractor for Adidas or Puma and retain this contract with us, and I go become a contractor with Adidas, I don’t get to be surprised when Nike is like, okay yeah, so we told you about that and you did it anyway, sorry.

      TLDR; LIV Golf doesn’t give World Ranking points, even if it did there aren’t enough events/format is different (less golf) to get enough to rank high. You need high rank to be invited to majors.

      • Tw

        Jul 27, 2022 at 9:24 am

        This is why they should work together. LIV stay invitational only and keep their events at 48 players. If you sign with LIV you play those tournaments, but LIV should not host any event next to the PGA big tournaments. So players would still play the Players, The Memorial etc. No reason they both can’t exist. The PGA should have a mandatory number of events that you have to play in as well. Say 4. That way players that want the money and are invited to Liv can still play 12 LIV events, 4 PGA, and the 4 majors if they qualify.

      • BJ

        Aug 3, 2022 at 9:24 pm

        How many players play in Tigers event?….. Dont believe there’s a cut(could be wrong) and it gets WRP if im correct. They play 72 fun holes just for money and vacation in Bermuda

    • Cam smith

      Jul 22, 2022 at 7:53 pm

      In what way, citing very specific examples, is the PGA tour contributing to Saudi blood money?

      • Jack

        Jul 24, 2022 at 2:54 am

        320 billion in revenue from PGATour sponsors doing business in Saudi Arabia to start. Many other examples include the hypocritical PGATour spending big money in China while the Chineese government is quite possibly the moth ruthless in the world.

        Saudi Arabia is trying to change for the better … same for LIV golf.

        • Jerry1

          Jul 29, 2022 at 3:13 pm

          PGA loves China and loads of golf gear including clothing and shoes is made in China or other countries that also have terrible pay and working conditions. Golf often takes advantage of the poor who work at golf course, in the bag room or pro shop. The wealthy club members often treat the workers like their servants. LIV seems to be spreading some of the wealth around. The Saudis can afford it when gas prices are over $5 a gallon as working familes in the USA lose their homes.

    • Thomas

      Jul 24, 2022 at 11:51 am

      The LIV is for in-between guys who are in their 30s to 50s. All of this gives more guys a chance to play professional golf and get paid for it. Why would anyone be against that? Just little bitter guys folding shirts in the pro shop or who work in the bag room. Poulter folded shirts in the pro shop but manned up and got in the show. now with his LIV money – he can buy 10 more Ferraris.

  9. ericsokp

    Jul 20, 2022 at 2:48 pm

    So I have no problem with these guys taking the LIV money and running. My only problem is with their stated reasoning of how they only want to play 8 to 10 tournaments a year to spend more time with their families (fair enough – they do travel a lot). But if that’s true, why do they then also want to play in the Majors?

    It’s like breaking up with your girlfriend, but then two months later calling her up and asking her to attend a wedding with you cuz’ you don’t want to go alone.

    • TM

      Jul 22, 2022 at 12:39 pm

      The PGA Tour doesn’t run any majors. The majors can do what they want they are separate entities. If players qualify than they can play. Masters is really the only exception because there is not play in qualifying.

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  11. Brandon

    Jul 19, 2022 at 10:53 pm

    If enough guys choose to play over there, ratings are going to drop and tournament sponsors will follow. They are going to have to reconsider their stance on indefinite suspension sooner or later.

    • Andy

      Jul 22, 2022 at 5:45 am

      What ratings? Nobody is watching these silly tournaments

      • Jack

        Jul 24, 2022 at 2:55 am

        He is talking about the PGA Tour, Andy. try and keep up.

  12. Chuck

    Jul 19, 2022 at 10:23 pm

    The presumption seems to be a comparison between $100 million in Saudi money versus zero on the PGA Tour.

    That’s nonsense.

    There’s lots of money on the PGA Tour. Not just prize money, but vast sponsorship money. The same money that allowed Phil Mickelson to blow $40 million in gambling losses.

    • JL

      Jul 20, 2022 at 10:25 am

      Well the sponsorship money must not be as lucrative as you think if they are jumping ship this quickly to join LIV…. Also, you assume that they will have 0 sponsorship opportunity playing on the LIV which is a silly assumption to make…

    • Brass Bonanza

      Jul 21, 2022 at 9:27 am

      I hear what your saying, but only Tiger, Phil, and Jack are getting that crazy amount of sponsorship money. I highly doubt guys like Scheffler, Cam Smith, or anyone today are getting anything remotely close via generational retirement type money thru sponsorship that would equal what they would get to sign with LIV.

    • Edof

      Jul 22, 2022 at 7:58 pm

      Lol truth

  13. No one

    Jul 19, 2022 at 8:35 pm

    If it’s up-front guaranteed money, no way I’m turning it down. That’s generational money. If the Saudis are going to part with that kind of cash to have him play golf, take the money and run!

    The PGA needs to weather the storm. The Saudis will get tired of this in a couple years, and it’ll be an asterisk. In the meantime, guys will continue to get Powerball money. Let them. Don’t be bitter. Accept that your top 25 are gone, and then make the best of it. DP is still a compelling watch and they only have a handful of top-100 guys in it.

    • Andy

      Jul 22, 2022 at 5:46 am

      Top 25 are 99% PGA

    • Tyler Durden

      Jul 23, 2022 at 7:40 pm

      Too bad nobody know who the hell you are

    • BBB

      Jul 24, 2022 at 6:37 pm

      At the same time if I’m Cam, I am young, world #2, just won the Open at St. Andrews and have a great shot at winning the Masters based on past play at Augusta. Why would I sign for less than half of what Mickelson got? I think he should at least try to squeeze them for 200 million if not 250 or wait a little longer to see how things settle. The 100 million offer will still be there for another 6-12 months if his form keeps up and there is not a flood of other top players into LIV

      • Tw

        Jul 27, 2022 at 9:45 am

        Totally agree. Especially seeing some of the other offers. I would want $200+ if I was Smith to even entertain the idea of signing a deal for more than 1 year.

  14. Tom Morris

    Jul 19, 2022 at 7:21 pm

    Did the PGA tour invent golf ?

  15. DB

    Jul 19, 2022 at 3:38 pm

    Yeah it’s real easy to tell other people they should definitely turn down 100m. Haha

  16. LIV stays

    Jul 19, 2022 at 2:09 pm

    People seem to want people do what they want them to do, that makes for a unhappy life. Dont want you want to do and what you think will make you happy. The future and past dont exist, only now does. And if my bank account now had 100 million in it, then thats all I would care about lol.

    • PJ

      Jul 19, 2022 at 3:39 pm

      I could care less about rich golfers getting richer. I want what’s best for me, the fan.

      • Benny

        Jul 25, 2022 at 12:19 pm

        PJ is accurate here. It comes down to the fans of this awesome game.
        I have tuned into the LIV golf and its cool but I am already bored of it.
        I only watched it Thurs and Friday because once I was home I was watching NBC and CBS + Golf Channel is always on when my daughters are watching Gabby’s doll house.
        If the guys want to go after the $ we cannot blame them. That’s a ton of coin.
        But the coolest thing about the game of golf is how cut throat it is. You have to be on and be the best in the world or you are gone.
        Many cannot take that and took large sums of $$ which is fine.
        Interested to see how it plays out because this additional drama is too good not to watch!

    • joe

      Jul 22, 2022 at 11:35 pm

      …and if the money came from child porn and human trafficking, who cares? My happiness in the moment is all that matters!!! Only me NOW, not the past or future. Me and my money. NOW.

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‘We just won’t play’ – Major champ says PGA Tour pros could strike if LIV ban is overturned

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There’s a potential legal battle looming with players who’ve been suspended by the PGA Tour expected to challenge their suspension in court.

On Wednesday, former major champ and current Presidents Cup captain David Love III was asked by Sky Sports what he and his fellow PGA Tour players would do if they were asked to play alongside LIV players if they get their suspensions overturned.

The former Ryder Cup captain said that there’s the nuclear option that they “just won’t play.”

“We understand that we make the rules on the PGA Tour, and the commissioner is enforcing our rules and we don’t want those guys playing, coming and cherry-picking our tournaments. We hold all the cards. Not Jay [Monahan], Seth Waugh or Mike Whan. We say to the FTC and to Washington, “no, we support the rules. We don’t want those guys playing. We don’t care what the courts say’.

“The nuclear option is to say ‘fine, if they have to play in our events we just won’t play.’”

While Love’s comments are genuine and stem from a passionate anti-LIV stance, his suggestion seems extremely unlikely to come to fruition. A handful of stars may have the luxury of boycotting the PGA Tour, but plenty of players who play on Tour depend on playing golf as their livelihood.

Considering the suspension being lifted may end up being court mandated if it happens, it also doesn’t make much sense to punish the PGA Tour over what the court decides.

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Bryson on PGA Tour ban: ‘I personally know it’ll get figured out’

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Last night, Bryson DeChambeau made an appearance on “Tucker Carlson Tonight.”

There were plenty of interesting comments made in the interview, but one of them in particular would permanently change the landscape of golf even further if it were to come to fruition.

When Carlson asked DeChambeau “The PGA Tour has said anyone who joins [LIV] will be banned from the PGA Tour. You’re 28 [years old], are you worried about that?”

“No, I think it’ll get figured out in the end. I personally know that it’ll get figured out whether it’s legally or whether they come to the table and work out terms. I definitely think it will all wash itself out in the future, pretty shortly,” the former U.S. Open Champion said.

It’s unclear whether DeChambeau has been told by Greg Norman that he’s spoken with the PGA Tour or what knowledge he has regarding any legal proceedings, but he seems very confident that conversations will be taking place in the immediate future.

Many players and fans have been pleading for the two sides to work something out over the past few months. With more superstars such as Cameron Smith and Hideki Matsuyama having been rumored to join LIV after the PGA Tour season ends.

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Bryson provides entirely confused pizza analogy to describe current situation between PGA Tour and LIV

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Bryson DeChambeau has been one of the poster boys for LIV Golf after signing for the breakaway tour earlier this year for a reported sign-on fee of over $100 million.

The 28-year-old has underwhelmed on his opening two starts with LIV, mainly thanks to a hand injury that has yet to heal fully with Bryson finishing 10th and T31 in his first events.

According to John Daly, who was interviewed recently by Piers Morgan, Bryson told the 2-time major champ in regards to LIV:

“It’s the greatest thing on earth. We still play a pro-am with two pros and two amateurs, which is what it should be. You’re done in four hours. And we play for a lot of money which we deserve to play for.”

After a busy week that saw Bryson also play alongside former President Donald Trump in a Pro-Am at Bedminster, DeChambeau followed in the footsteps of LIV CEO Greg Norman with an appearance on FOX News for an interview with Tucker Carlson.

Unsurprisingly, he had plenty to say on the new league, and also unsurprisingly, the Californian provided a moment that could only be attributed to Bryson.

Speaking on the LIV series, Bryson broke down the situation and conflict between the PGA Tour and LIV Golf, and he used a rather unusual, flawed, and confusing pizza shop analogy to do so.

“You have a pizza shop that’s been in existence for 50 years, and all the customers go to it, and it’s a great product. All of a sudden, a new pizza shop opens up, and they start paying the customers to come eat at their place, and that pizza is potentially a little bit better of a pizza.

“And then, all of a sudden, that original pizza house goes, ‘If you go over there, we’re banning you from ever coming back to our pizza shop.’ What’s wrong with that economic model?”

Obviously, the analogy didn’t fly with many golf fans, with popular Twitter personality TweeterAlliss saying: 

“Dear Bryson’s pizza shop analogy is rather flawed, one would rather be an employee of said shops rather than a customer to have a like for like situation.”

While Twitter User Accts_Cowboy pointed out how the analogy doesn’t make any sense as to why LIV Golfers would want to then return to the PGA Tour:

“Also if the new shop is ‘better’ why would you want to come back to the old one anyway? What a load of tripe as usual from Bryson.”

Just another day in the life of Bryson DeChambeau.

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