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GolfWRX Spotted: Mitsubishi MMT Putter Concept shaft

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You’ll soon be able to play Mitsubishi’s MMT shafts in all 14 clubs.

As a refresher, MMT shafts combine the best of graphite and steel. Mitsubishi stacks layers of prepreg onto the shaft’s core, placing a Metal Mesh toward the tip for increased stability and thinner walls overall in a highly responsive shaft with plenty of weight in the tip.

We spotted Mitsubishi’s Metal Mesh Technology in putter shaft form at The American Express at PGA West and caught up with Mitsubishi’s Preston Toulon for the inside scoop on the Mitsubishi MMT Putter Concept.

“The putter shaft uses a new application of Metal Mesh Technology called Speed Mesh, which is 75 percent lighter than traditional Metal Mesh you’d fine in iron shafts. What that allows you to do is instead of using it in a small portion of the shaft, because it’s so much thinner and so much lighter, you’re able to use it in the full length of the putter shaft. It’s a big material advancement for us.” 

“It makes the shaft more stable. Through player testing, they tell us it makes milled putters feel like they’re struck with an insert. People are reporting it makes it feel softer. It’s intended to help your start line and improve stability and feel. It helps players release the putter head more fully.” 

“We did a lot of testing versus steel putter shafts, mostly through GEARS motion capture system…we had face-mapping patterns, and in nearly all cases, there was tighter dispersion, tighter impact location (more center face), more consistent feel, and more speed control.” 

“So, we’ve had a lot of early excitement.” 

Available in parallel and taper, the new Mitsubishi MMT Putter Concept weighs in at 135 grams with a 1.6 torque measurement. Right now, it’s only available in plumbers neck, but Mitsubishi indicates additional neck styles will follow.

Available at fitters February 4 with an MSRP of $150.

See what GolfWRXers are saying in the forums.

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  3. Paul Runyan

    Jan 18, 2022 at 11:25 am

    Solving a problem that doesn’t exist!

    Bing

    • Nick Carter

      Apr 20, 2022 at 12:57 pm

      Can’t wait to try this out and compare to my Stability Tour which has been great. It’s always funny seeing the “snake oil” comments. There’s almost no room for error in putting, especially mid to long range, every degree of deflection is huge and these tech advancements help.

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GolfWRX Deep Dive: The new Bridgestone Tour B golf ball

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Bridgestone released the latest iteration of its Tour B golf ball in late January. While its autonomous ball fitting robot (OTTO) grabbed quite a few headlines at launch, we’ve seen consistent chatter about the Tour B lineup in the GolfWRX forums, and Jason Day signed on to play the company’s Tour B X.

Endeavoring to go beyond the standard launch release talking points (read all of those in our launch piece here), we wanted to dive deep on the Tour B lineup to answer the questions in GolfWRXers’ minds and get more nuanced information on the development of the Tour B — and, of course, Tiger Woods’ role in its development.

Tiger Woods testing Bridgestone Tour B prototypes. (c/o Bridgestone)

Fortunately, Bridgestone’s Golf Ball Marketing Manager, Elliot Mellow, was willing to answer all our questions. Check out our conversation below.

GolfWRX: Four Tour B golf balls. Can you succinctly break down the Tour B lineup?

Elliot Mellow: Ball fitting is at the heart of what we do at Bridgestone, with that in mind each of the four Tour B golf balls are designed for a specific player profile. For the faster swingers, over 105 mph driver swing speed, we have the Tour B X, which is a distance oriented golf ball, and we have the Tour B XS which is designed for added short game control. Looking at players that swing under 105 mph, we have the RX for distance and the RXS for more spin with irons and wedges.

GolfWRX: Let’s dig a bit deeper. What’s the simplest way to explain and understand the Reactiv IQ cover?

EM: We are part of Bridgestone tire and rubber, which is the largest producer of consumer rubber products in the world. The golf ball is made out of rubber, and we are always looking for ways to push the envelope from a design standpoint and we have a great network on engineers that we bounce ideas off of.

We are a few years in now on our study of contact science. Contact science is all about optimizing the moment of impact for the unique needs of each shot. In the past it was difficult to decouple the relationship of distance and spin, for example, you could make a long golf ball but at the detriment of short game control or vice versa.

What we have done with Reactiv iQ is we have added impact modifiers to the cover that allow us to create a cover formulation that is optimized for each of the four Tour B models. The impact modifiers allow the cover to firm up and become faster when struck violently with a driver. On the flip side of that, on a softer impact with an iron or a wedge, the ball has more dwell time, or as Tiger says: “more face time,” so the loft and groves of the club can impart more spin and control.

GolfWRX: What was the testing and development like?

EM: Yes, that’s a good question, and honestly the answer might surprise you in terms of the amount of time it takes. Take for example the 330 Dual Dimple pattern that is on Tiger’s Tour B XS, that dimple took about 8 years of R&D alone to design; perfect the drag coefficient and the lift and trajectory. There was a lot that went into that dimple design between computer modeling, robot testing, and player testing.

You look at the Reactiv iQ cover, for example, and really the design process started back in the summer of 2016. In the early phases, we make prototype balls in the sample lab and robot test them under a wide range of conditions. As the prototypes reach a phase where we feel they are potentially viable, we start to introduce player testing. Player testing can include our pro players but also includes amateur golfers who we invite to our testing facility in Covington, Georgia.

At any given time we are testing and developing technologies that you might see in the market in just a few months and others are more long term projects that might be up to 10 years out. Innovation is in our blood, so we are constantly striving to improve.

GolfWRX: We have to ask: What is the process of working with Tiger Woods like? His ball testing and the insights he offers engineers have to be unique…

EM: As you might imagine, Tiger is meticulous when it comes to testing, but at the same time it’s something I think he enjoys. The same way players work on their swing and fitness, they also work on their equipment, and obviously Tiger wants to have a hand in helping to design that equipment.

Having said that, we really enjoy testing with Tiger because the level of feedback he provides to us is above and beyond what we are able to capture with our robots and launch monitors. The other thing we like about testing with Tiger is his feedback ultimately goes into designing many of our balls even though he only plays the Tour B XS. What I mean by that is he might hit a shot that launches outside of his window or has a different spin rate than he prefers, but he is still proving us feedback that we ultimately can apply to other prototypes to improve balls like the RXS and RX.

At the end of the day, in our experience working with Tiger, he wants a ball that is long, in his window when he looks up, and gives him great control around the green.

GolfWRX: Pivoting to something more technical — and a question I know GolfWRXers have — How does the spin separation between driver and wedge work?

EM: Spin separation is an area that we have really been focusing on and the Reactiv iQ material really lets us take it to the next level. Spin separation is the design concept of designing a ball that has low driver spin and is efficient off the tee while on the other hand offers higher spin around the green for more control.

With traditional dimples it can be difficult to decouple this relationship and have success off the tee and around the green. Sure, things like the mantle layer that have tangential force to counteract driver spin can help with spin separation, but the design flexibility of the Reactiv iQ material is really next level. Think about a football helmet as an example, when you put the helmet on the padding is soft and squishy, then when you take a hit the padding firms up and pushes back against the force that is hitting you. With Reactiv iQ, essentially this same phenomenon is happening; around the green the material is soft and super high spin, yet when hit violently with a driver it becomes fast and efficient for maximum distance.

GolfWRX: Can you drill down on the spin difference between Tour B X and XS, specifically?

EM: So, the Tour B XS is the ball that Tiger helped us design and it is super high spin around the greens. Tiger grew up playing spinny golf balls and knows how to manage the spin and how to dial back as needed. The Tour B X on the other hand has a slightly firmer cover formulation, designed for lower spin on all shots — but don’t get me wrong the X still has plenty of short game control and it is our number one model played on Tour.

GolfWRX: One final note here — and something that often gets overlooked in the golf ball space — you’re big believers in ball fitting. Can you provide any cautionary tales about playing the wrong ball?

EM: Playing the best ball for your game is crucial to success on the golf course. Every golf ball on the market is designed with unique performance characteristics that can work to your advantage and also work against you if used improperly. Take for example someone who is directionally challenged — someone who slices the ball. If that player is using a high spin pro ball that is designed to be worked off the tee, that ball can actually end up accentuating their slice and making the ball fly even more off line. I’m not saying it’s a bad ball, it maybe just isn’t one that is suited for a player that tends to have high side spin.

What we find time and again is that most amateur players can benefit from a lower compression ball such as our RX or RXS. The lower compression balls are easier to compress, which should lead to higher ball velocity, higher launch, and lower spin off the tee; all of which should help create longer and straighter drives. I tell people all the time, if you have more energy going straight down the fairway and less energy going right into the trees, it’s ultimately going to produce longer drives.

GolfWRX: How should the average player determine the best golf ball for them?

EM: This is a question we get frequently and I am glad folks are interested enough to be asking about it. When you break down your bag and really think about it, the golf ball is the once piece of equipment that you use on every shot, so making sure you’re playing one that fits you is important. To date, we have over 2.5 million amateur swings in our database and are the No. 1 ball fitter in golf. So, what we have done is we have taken all of that swing data and designed a tool on bridgestonegolf.com that allows golfers to easily find their fit. There are two ways to do it actually. The easiest way is to answer a series of questions about your game and ball flight, and on the back end our tool is cross referencing the database to determine which ball fits you. For golfers that are a little bit more into the data and maybe fresh off a recent driver fitting, we have another option to get fit by inputting your launch monitor numbers. Both options for fitting are great ways to quickly and easily find your fit.

 

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Best affordable ball for a beginner? – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been discussing affordable golf balls. WRXer ‘GDub17’ is looking for recommendations for his 14-year-old son and gives readers some context, saying:

“I bought some top flite xl’s for his first 9 hole round because I figured we’d lose a bunch of balls, but we ended losing only one on his very first 9 hole round. He didn’t miss a fairway off the tee except for a par 3, so I’d like to buy some slightly better balls for us to use. Money is an object, so nothing crazy expensive. What ball do you guys recommend?”

And our members have been sharing their best picks in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Nessism: “Costco Kirkland Signature 3-piece V2.0. An unbeatable value in the world of balls.”
  • SE Gamer: “Maxfli Tour or Tour X. You can get 4 dozen for around $100. Every bit as good as a Pro V at half the price. I’ve been playing the X version and have been super happy with it.”
  • Roejye: “I’m a big fan of the Cut family of balls. If you want tour level they have the grey and blue for $20/dozen. Only downside is they can scuff easier than others. The grey seems better than the blue for that, and it seems like they have improved the durability. Straight up value, the Cut red is a good ball IMO, can get 24 for $20 at Walmart. I also have a soft spot for the noodle. If you don’t mind used, than going on the bay and looking for high quality used balls seems like a good buy. Another thing is going somewhere on course that’s a magnet for errant shots and doing some ball hunting. I would only do that if you were the last group on the course or just grabbing a couple that look good if you’re looking for yours in one of those areas.”

Entire Thread: “Best affordable ball for a beginner? – GolfWRXers discuss”

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Coolest thing for sale in the GolfWRX Classifieds (5/24/22): Vintage golf club lot (8 clubs)

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At GolfWRX, we are a community of like-minded individuals that all experience and express our enjoyment of the game in many ways.

It’s that sense of community that drives day-to-day interactions in the forums on topics that range from best driver to what marker you use to mark your ball. It even allows us to share another thing we all love – buying and selling equipment.

Currently, in our GolfWRX buy/sell/trade (BST) forum, there is a listing for a vintage golf club lot (8 clubs)

From the seller (@Gehly): “Get all 8 clubs in pics…for $135 shipped (140 to west coast). Bulls Eye Acushnet putter, Callaway Big Bertha 10 degree Driver. TaylorMade Tour Driver 8.5* (one of first metal woods from TM circa early 80’s). TaylorMade original Burner 3 wood w/ bubble shaft. Arnold Palmer TruMatic 3 iron, MacGregor Don Whitt 9 iron (circa late 60’s). Titleist PT 10.5* Driver, wooden PING Eye2 4 wood..all used but still nice condition, some better then others…see pics!”

To check out the full listing in our BST forum, head through the link: Vintage golf club lot (8 clubs)

This is the most impressive current listing from the GolfWRX BST, and if you are curious about the rules to participate in the BST Forum you can check them out here: GolfWRX BST Rules

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