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How old is too old for irons? – GolfWRXers discuss

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In our forums, our members have been discussing older irons. WRXer ‘R5Two’ kicks off the thread, saying

“I pulled my old Titleist 695 CBs (cr 2006) out of storage to hit a few balls. I have seen many videos about how much faster the ballspeeds are these days, but I don’t know if I care. I’m a blade guy. Isn’t a hunk of metal a hunk of metal? 

How old is too old for forged irons? What are we missing? Non-confirming grooves maybe? Maybe a little forgiveness?”

And our members have been sharing their thoughts in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • PEI_Golfer: “Irons are all about accuracy and distance control, not ball speed… Nothing wrong with the 695’s (my first OEM set of irons); I still bring out my 690.CB’s from time to time and OG Nike blades.”
  • Tar_Heel_93: “I’m with you. I prefer a solid forged iron. Not looking for a lot of tech. Here are the irons I am testing for next season. Apex MBs have been in the bag for several seasons. Others are recent additions. Titleist CB and Wilson Staff CB have Tungsten in the mid and long irons. However, so far my favorite CB is the Bridgestone J33 CBs circa 2006.” (Photo above proved by Tar_Heel_93)
  • mrfuz: “I recently regripped my old 690MBs and pulled out my Eye2s. They’re not replacing my Sim2 Maxes, but they’re fun to play with.”
  • HoosierHacker89: “695 CB irons are great! One of my all-time favorites. I found them to be really forgiving especially the long irons. This was one of the few sets I was confident in the 4/5 irons. I played a set of Srixon 765 irons the last 3 years. Honestly can’t say there was much if anyone difference in the heads Of both sets.”

Entire Thread: “How old is too old for irons?

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Gianni is the Assistant Editor at GolfWRX. He can be contacted at [email protected] Follow him on Twitter @giannimosquito

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  1. Mike

    Jan 14, 2022 at 4:34 pm

    I think the main differences are the lofts. But I do think a comparison would show that a 2021 iron will fly a bit higher w/ the same distance) as a 2005 iron.

  2. JungleJimbo

    Jan 13, 2022 at 9:25 pm

    To GolfWRX team/Gianni Magliocco: As you’ve used a contributor’s photo (i.e. @Tar_Heel_93 ‘s), as your thumbnail/ Leading photo…
    i think you should attribute a photo credit, in this article?

    Link to photo: https://forums.golfwrx.com/topic/1852273-how-old-is-too-old-irons-edition/?do=findComment&comment=23972310

    • Hugh Givzaphook

      Jan 13, 2022 at 9:47 pm

      Found the only guy in the world who gives a %$#@

  3. Ping Eye 2

    Jan 13, 2022 at 7:28 pm

    ………Don’t you know I’m still standing better than I ever did
    Looking like a true survivor, feeling like a little kid
    And I’m still standing after all this time
    Picking up the pieces of my life without you on my mind

    I’m still standing. Yeah, yeah, yeah
    I’m still standing. Yeah, yeah, yeah……….

  4. Everardo

    Jan 13, 2022 at 7:17 pm

    Just did a test myself with two sets of irons that were 15 years old vs a newer set from last year. My older sets (were fitted for me mind you) and performed the same or better than the newer set. So I’m selling the newer set since they have better resale value. I had all 3 sets checked for loft, lie, length, flex, etc to make it a fair comparison and tested them all on the same calibrated launch monitor, same ball and over multiple days just to keep things fair.

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Mizuno unveils new ST-Z 220 and ST-X 220 drivers

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Mizuno Golf has today introduced its latest ST Series of drivers: the ST-Z 220 driver and ST-X 220 driver, which will both arrive at retail on February 3rd. 

The ST-Z and ST-X drivers both feature a 40% expansion of the carbon-sole area and thinning out the Titanium portion, alongside a doubling of the stabilizing back weight in design to provide excellent stability and consistency from off-center strikes.

“Any twisting or deflecting at impact due to an off-center hit is an energy loss and varies launch conditions. By working with the prior ST driver platform and familiar materials, we were able to find several adaptations to impact the internal weighting. Creating far more stable tendencies in both the ST-Z and ST-X.” – Mizuno’s Director of R&D David Llewellyn

Mizuno ST-Z 220 driver

The Mizuno ST-Z 220 driver features a balanced toe/heel carbon construction and central back weight designed to encourage a low spinning, efficient, straight ball flight.

The 460cc head aims to offer players a confidence-inspiring profile at address for elite players, while a heavier, 20g back weight creates a deeper center of gravity in design for more efficient performance, more often.

The ST-Z driver features Mizuno’s Z-Axis design with weight evenly distributed across toe and heel in design to provide a low spinning stable straight flight, while a highly resilient forged SAT2041 Beta Ti face and multi-thickness CorTech design aims to produce increased ball speeds.

In addition, an optimized Wave Sole is included in a bid to further increase ball speeds, particularly from low on the clubface, while 4 degrees of loft adjustability allows for fine-tuning of launch and trajectory.

“The ST-Z is the most played of all our drivers. It’s a modern driver for players who have grown up hitting long straight bombs rather than shaping the ball. The addition of a 20g back weight also makes it an exceptionally forgiving option,” says Chris Voshall.

Specs & Pricing

  • Lofts: Right hand – 9.5 and 10.5 degrees. Left hand – 9.5 degrees only.
  • Price: $449.95

Mizuno ST-X 220 driver

The ST-X 220 driver is a draw-biased driver with heel focused weight location aimed at players with moderate swing speeds who need help producing a more extended ball flight.

The new driver features a 20-gram heel biased back weight that creates a deeper center of gravity in design for more efficient, longer drives. The ST-X is also available as a J-Spec option with an ultra-lightweight HeLIUM NanoCore shaft for seniors and those with slower swing speeds.

The ST-X aims to deliver exceptional stability from off-center strikes via an expansion of the carbon sole area by 40% and thinning out the Titanium portion, alongside a near doubling of the stabilizing heel/back weight.

Featuring Mizuno’s X-Axis design, weight is focused deep in the heel, encouraging a higher draw bias flight, while a rounded 460cc profile seeks to offer a higher launch and mid spin performance.

A highly resilient forged SAT2041 Beta Ti face and multi-thickness CorTech design are also designed to produce increased ball speeds and the driver also includes an optimized Wave Sole, while 4 degrees of loft adjustability allows for fine-tuning of launch and trajectory.

“For a lot of golfers, the modern low spinning driver design preferred by tour players is a serious distance killer. The ST-X’s extra spin, slight draw bias and a higher flight will add driving distance for a surprising number of players.” – Mizuno’s Director of Product Chris Voshall

Specs & Price

  • Lofts: Right hand – 10.5 and 12 degrees.
  • Price: $449.95
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Mizuno introduces new ST-X 220 fairway woods and hybrids

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Mizuno Golf has today unveiled its new ST-X 220 fairway woods and hybrids, which will arrive at retail on February 3rd.

ST-X 220 fairway woods

Engineered to produce a higher, draw-biased flight, the ST-X 220 fairway woods feature deep internal weighting and are designed for those with moderate swing speeds who need elevated launch to achieve their optimal distance and controlled landing angles.

3-wood

The ST-X 220 3-wood features a full Ti construction with a high ball speed SAT2041 Beta face – as featured in Mizuno’s drivers, combined with a Ti811 body.

Per Mizuno, the combination has helped its engineers to create a 3-wood that produces the highest ever ball speeds from a Mizuno fairway wood.

With Maraging MAS1C steel face, the 5 and 7 wood are significantly more compact than the 3 wood for optimal use from the fairways.

Mizuno’s Harmonic Impact Research has built sound into the design, delivering vibration patterns elite players associate with a ‘solid’ feel. In addition, the Optimized Wave Sole is a fairway-specific design to help create higher ball speeds from low on the face – suited to strikes directly from the turf.

“There are a lot of forgiving looking fairways woods that don’t launch high enough for the average amateur. Size and footprint is only one part of the equation – most of us need a little more spin and elevation to carry the ball to our full capability. The ST-X is designed to solve that issue.” – Mizuno’s Director of Product Chris Voshall

Specs & Price

  • Lofts: Right hand – 9.5 and 10.5 degrees. Left hand – 9.5 degrees only.
  • Price: $299.95

ST-X 220 hybrids

Engineered to produce a higher, draw-biased flight, the ST-X hybrids are aimed at moderate swing speed players.

Mizuno’s X-Axis design features an ultra-light waffle crown, with deep internal weighting to encourage a high draw-biased flight, while at 1.8mm, the high-speed MAS1C face is Mizuno’s thinnest hybrid face to date, and it is designed to produce the highest recorded ball speeds from center strikes (compared to previous ST-X and CLK).

In addition, as with the fairway woods, Harmonic Impact Research has built sound into the design while an Optimized Wave Sole is featured in a hybrid-specific design that helps create higher ball speeds from low on the face – suited to strikes directly from the turf.

“The ST-X is a great hybrid option for players with moderate ball speeds. With the new thinner face and internal weighting, it’s a nice alternative that will suit a lot of amateur golfers.” – Chris Voshall

Specs & Price

  • Lofts: Right hand only – 4H (20), 5H (23) and 6H (26) degrees.
  • Price: $224.85
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