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Former LPGA pro shares detailed breakdown of expenses for a year on Symetra Tour

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Earlier this week, professional golfer Hannah Gregg opened up on the harsh financial demands of a player on the Symetra Tour.

Gregg, a second-year professional and rookie on the developmental Symetra Tour, spoke to Golf Monthly about the difficulty of making ends meet even for the best players on feeder tours, with their future in the game constantly up in the air.

Included in Gregg’s takeaways was that her annual expenses cost on average $50k and that the WAPT (Women’s All Pro Tour) is the highest paying development tour, with the average winner of high-paying events earning $5-7k for a victory. With expenses for a cheap tournament generally coming in at $1.5-2k, players need to average finishing in the top-3 of each event to make a profit.

As Gregg points out in the interview: “expecting to average top-three for an entire season is not feasible. Even the best players on tour miss cuts and have bad stretches.” and that progression leads to more expenses, “when you do play well and start winning, you generally start moving up to the next level where travel and accommodation are even more expensive. Suddenly, you need to figure out how to pay a caddie.”

Former LPGA professional Anya Alvarez has since praised Gregg for speaking up on the topic and subsequently produced a very interesting breakdown of her expenses for a year of playing on the Symetra Tour.

It’s worth noting that the figures are from almost 9 years ago, and as she wrote on Twitter to accompany the breakdown, Alvarez said, “I drove to 90% of events, stayed with host families, and often didn’t have a caddie. LPGA expenses were much more.” 

It’s also worth noting that per SymetraTour.com, the highest earner on the Symetra Tour in 2013 earned $47,283 in prize money.

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Going back to Gregg’s recent interview, the Symetra pro revealed that the harsh financial demands end up making it unattainable for many talented players to continue in the sport:

“Lots of girls stop playing because they can’t afford Q-School, which is the most expensive event of the year.” she says. “if you don’t play in that, then you have no Tour status and are left with very few events to play in. You get phased out and others just lap you.”

In another eye-opening tweet from Alvarez, who is the founder of MajorLeagueGirls.com, a website that promotes women’s sports, she stated that “players who are talented beyond measure and had some success were forced to quit playing because they financially couldn’t do it anymore”, resulting in “the talent on tour being diluted.”

How can things change? In Gregg’s original interview, she shared her opinion that it begins with building up women’s sports and acknowledging that there is a quality product there – something that anyone who watches the LPGA will undoubtedly attest to.

Gregg told Golf Monthly:

“When it comes to making purses bigger and getting donations from sponsors, everyone has an excuse.

I always hear ‘well the women aren’t fun to watch’ but I’ve never understood that. The men weren’t popular to watch compared to the scale they are now. It takes years of marketing and people engaging with women’s sports for them to have a chance to succeed and grow. 

If people really want to help, we should start building up women’s sports and acknowledging that there is a quality product there. Help us raise money when you can, spread the word and find players that you like to watch and then follow their careers.

All of us love knowing that people out there are enjoying our journey and it makes even the struggles that much more enjoyable.”

Plenty of food for thought.

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  1. gwelfgulfer

    Nov 23, 2021 at 9:36 pm

    And…

  2. Jacob

    Nov 22, 2021 at 11:04 am

    The standard 55 cents per mile deduction includes the cost of gasoline, so those expenses double count the 1,900.

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  4. Brooks Cupcake

    Nov 22, 2021 at 2:45 am

    Its costly to try and climb the ladder is virtually every pro sport. At what point does all this start to look like whinging?

    “speaking up on the topic” this is ridiculous language. Its no secret things cost money and someone has to pay expense/bills. Playing pro golf is not a right or entitlement.

  5. Tyler Durden

    Nov 21, 2021 at 12:05 am

    Let’s ask Billy Ho to weigh in, his answer is “f-them”

  6. CrashTestDummy

    Nov 20, 2021 at 2:29 am

    Extremely difficult to be a pro golfer and it costs a lot. Players are losing money the majority of tournaments they tee it up in. So, it is very difficult to be a touring pro unless you have some financial backing. It is like taking 15-20 weeks of vacations per year and incurring the costs for it.

  7. CrashTestDummy

    Nov 19, 2021 at 5:50 pm

    So hard to make money at pro golf. For pro golfers, every week competing at a tournament is like taking a week long vacation in costs. So, playing 15-20 tournaments a year is like taking 15-20 vacations a year and incurring the costs associated with it.

    Personally, I think the prize money payouts on all the tours are too exponential. The top players make a lot, but players down the line make very little. There is not much difference in the top placers of a tournament and those placing further down. This is why I think more money and more tournaments is good for pro golf. Talent is deep in pro golf now.

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Check out 14-year-old Bryson on the range discussing his future before rise to stardom

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Videos of today’s stars when junior players are a common theme – look at the pairing of Justin and Jordan and the (almost) hundreds of Tiger movies – and Instagram site Long Drivers recently released a video of a 14-year-old Bryson DeChambeau, just before he made his trip to the World Youth Team Championship.

In the video, Bryson talks positively about his status as the top Californian player in his age group, commenting that it’s “fun for me and I enjoy that reputation” – almost a prophetic statement given his prominence in today’s game.

Playing since before he can remember and winning tournaments since the age of eight, a teenage Bryson looks to secure a place at Stanford and sees the upcoming event as “very serious actually”, again a prophetic vision of the player we see at double that age today.

Bryson’s coach gets a few lines in the short clip and, alongside eulogizing about his talent, states that “he’s getting noticed by a lot of big-time people”.

Check out the video below.

 

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Now, as a winner of eight events on the PGA Tour, including the U.S Open, and with a win in Dubai on the European Tour, I guess we can say he has been a world-class player in the making for a very long time.

So close to a hugely publicized ‘match’ with Brooks Koepka, I reckon we can say he’s still getting noticed.

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Bubba Watson reveals he asked ‘the Lord to take him’ during mental health struggles

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Bubba Watson has been dealing with mental health issues originating back in 2017 and recently published his journey in his book Up & Down.

A few years ago, the two-time Masters champ had lost a lot of weight due to a stomach issue which caused his golf game to suffer tremendously. At that time, Bubba had considered retiring from golf, and all of the downtime had caused his mind to take him “down a rabbit hole.”

Fearing he wasn’t good enough and wasn’t well-liked Watson “feared for” his life and described his feelings to CNN’s Patrick Snell as being the “darkest of the dark at that moment.”

“When I looked in a mirror at that moment when I was down to 162 pounds, all I saw was a thin Bubba, a guy losing weight, a guy not going to make it,” Watson explained.

“And so when you think about that moment, those were the darkest hours, and when I think about my tears at that moment, when I think about what I asked the Lord and then it resonated in my head, and it was like a wake-up call.

“It was like a bell went off and said: ‘Wait, if you have 10 minutes left, is this how you’re going to waste your 10 minutes?’ And I was like, ‘No.'”

In that frightening time in his life, Watson relied heavily upon his wife of 17 years and his partner in raising their two adopted children. Angie helped Bubba return to a better place psychologically:

“Being able to be a man and speak to her and tell her my deepest, darkest secrets and let her know what I was going through and let her know that I was scared … that’s a hard thing to do,” Watson recalls.

“I mean, talking to my wife and supposed to be the man of the house … but then thinking about my knees on the floor, when I hit the floor and ask for the Lord to take me, I thought about: ‘Wait, if this is the last 10 minutes of my life, this is the last 30 minutes, the last day, last two weeks, whatever it is, I need to be better. I need to be better for her and be better for my kids.”

Angie convinced Bubba to stick with golf because of all the joy it had brought to his life and knew it could help bring him back to normality.

With help from his family and his faith, Watson seems poised to conquer his struggle with mental health going forward.

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Bryson says Koepka’s treatment of him has been ‘disgusting’; Brooks: ‘I’ve never liked him’

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On October 5th, “The Match” between Brooks Koepka and Bryson DeChambeau was announced.

Just a week earlier, the world saw the two hugging it out at Whistling Straits after the United States defeated Europe in the Ryder Cup. It was a great moment for the U.S. team who seemed to bond during the event, but it certainly wasn’t ideal for generating excitement for a Brooks v.s. Bryson match on Friday November 26th.

In a conference call on Monday, Koepka and DeChambeau attempted to re-generate some of the disdain that golf fans had witnessed prior to the pair’s embrace in Wisconsin. Both Brooks and Bryson insist that the hug was “forced”:

“I wouldn’t put much on a forced hug,” Koepka said on the call Monday night.

DeChambeau agreed:

“It was definitely a little forced,” he said. “The team wanted us to do it, and to be honest I was surprised he did it. But I’m a guy that can put things behind me pretty quickly when you apologize and then we can move along. But it definitely felt forced, there wasn’t an apology or anything like that. Until I get an apology for what he’s said and what not, nothing will change.”

Bryson went on to explain why his beef with Brooks is real from his perspective:

“This is all real on my end,” DeChambeau added. “It’s disgusting the way the guy has tried to knock me down. There’s no need for it in the game of golf, he’s just tried to knock me down at every angle, every avenue. For what reason, I don’t know. Maybe it’s because he’s jealous and wants to get a part of that PIP [Player Impact Program] money from the tour. That’s probably a part of it, because it was squashed until that was announced.”

Koepka agrees that the contempt is authentic between the two:

“I’ve said it like 10 different times,” Koepka said. “I’ve never really liked him. I think we played together maybe when he was an amateur at Augusta, that was the only time that I can think of that we ever played [together]. We didn’t get along there, didn’t get along since he got out [on tour], and then he said that stuff to Rick and I just thought it was crap. You don’t go ask my caddie to say something to me. Just come to me. Don’t be a little baby about it. I think he’s learned his lesson.”

Bryson’s first impression of Brooks wasn’t much better:

“My first impression of [Brooks] was always like, he was a little cocky,” DeChambeau said. “A little like, ‘I’m too cool for this game.’ He’s kind of held up to those standards so far.

“For some reason, he doesn’t like me. Whatever, it is what it is,” DeChambeau said. “I’m here to showcase and inspire kids to play a game in a unique way, and apparently he doesn’t like that.”

It is yet to be seen whether the recent comments by the two will generate some more interest in the event. Koepka has missed two cuts recently leading up to “The Match”, and DeChambeau was quick to point that out:

“He’s been lacking a bit recently,” DeChambeau said, referring to Koepka’s two recent missed cuts. “I’m happy for him that he signed with Srixon, wink wink.”

Koepka has already declared himself the winner of the “trash-talking” battle, and seeks bragging rights for a victory on the golf course as well:

“With all that’s gone on the last two years, eventually it was going to come to this,” Koepka said. “That way, somebody will have the bragging rights at the end of this and somebody won’t. I’ve already won the trash-talking point, I think that’s a given. So now it just comes down to playing golf, because obviously no one will [pair] us together. So we’ve got to do it on our own.”

The outcome will finally be determined on Friday November 26th in a 12 hole match in Las Vegas beginning at 4PM E.T.

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