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‘My first-hand experience with Bryson DeChambeau’

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In our forums, our members have been responding to a fascinating post from GolfWRXer ‘Soloman1’, who has recounted his first-hand experience with Bryson DeChambeau. The post details his short time with Bryson during his second year on Tour in a thread that has gripped our readers.

From Soloman1:

“Oh no, not another Bryson thread!? Yes, another Bryson thread. But this one’s a little different. 

I want to talk from a first-hand experience with him and not third, fourth, or no-hand experiences or random feelings that I do or don’t like the guy because of (fill in the blank).

Quick background: He was an earlier adopter of my 3D motion system because it was portable and gives objective data, not myths of feelings about the swing. Why guess when you can measure tilts, rotations, body angles, wrist angles, swing planes, etc.?

Bryson had won one tournament and was struggling a little at the beginning of his second year on tour. Plenty of tour pros used it in the office or around the country – lot’s of names that you’d know and others you may not know. They all get the same time and energy.

I was asked to go to Dallas to spend a couple of days with Bryson in the summer. I had just gotten back from an extended trip to Asia and was worn out. My wife had died six weeks before; I had to empty a house full of memories in Tokyo, where we lived for decades. Bryson and others didn’t know this, so it had no influence on how he treated me.

First of all, Bryson was unfailingly polite. Some of you may be disappointed by that. He was polite the several other times we met at tournament sites. The golf course is his world, like all professionals, so on course and off course can be very different. You may not be the same person in your work environment either.

Is he driven? Of course, as all tour pros are, but I would say more than the average pro. He had spent time playing some practice rounds with Tiger, the ultimate driven professional, so he knew first hand what being driven looks and sounds like from the best in the world. There are plenty of guys (and women pros) who can be unpleasant to be around because of their ego, but Bryson wasn’t anywhere near some of them. Now, on the other hand, I’ll tell you who is really a… Just kidding. I’m not going to tell.

In most all cases, the player doesn’t want to know or need to know the gory details of the mechanics that are being looked at carefully. Their coach will translate it into a feeling and a few words that the player needs to hear, based on their experience with the player. Bryson wants the details and drives the ship.

OK, so Bryson started being interested in wrist movements. He was hitting irons on the range and not very well. He was frustrated and had been that way for half of the year. He couldn’t cure the lefts he had, and that is trouble city. I have to give him credit. He listened to what I said after only 2 minutes after I showed up. He had been there for hours. I moved one part of his body, and that one thought for him. The next ball and the rest after were perfect, and he was like a kid with a grin who just hit a ball flush for the first time. He just needed to hear a different voice, and I give him credit for listening.

One of my favorite ideas in engineering, business and golf is that you can’t hear a good idea if you aren’t listening.

The next day was raining, so we were indoors. He was still asking a lot about wrist angles, and he was working on driver and woods. Now, this was before bulking up and speed-distance quest. Even early on tour, Bryson was one of the longest guys out there, and that is a fact. He had a “Fairway Finder” driver swing that he used a lot. His distance stats were affected by that, but trust me, he could flat bomb it even then when he chose to. Of course, today is a different beast. He’s just trying to find the way for him to be as good as he can be.

He was getting frustrated again because his launch monitor numbers for his 3-wood didn’t match the ball flight. He was +4 path and -2 face to path, but the ball was starting a little right and dropping right from the top instead of a little push draw. Well, he decided that the balls were wet because they were brought in from the range, and this was the cause of his angst and shot shape going awry.

Again, I have to give him credit. He did listen, but he didn’t believe me.

The reason was obvious, but I had to prove it. He had to be hitting it a little on the heel, but he wasn’t having any of that. We put a sticker on the face, and sure enough, there it was. Now he accepted it. But I told him that I didn’t think it was a good idea to change anything in his setup or make him try to manipulate the swing until I saw what his pressure trace from my other product.

He resisted again but got him to do it, and Voila, he had a move that was a little too much toward his toes near impact. I asked him not to change anything but try to make more of a lateral move with pressure.

His next ball was not only that little push draw on target; he gained 20 yards (yes, 20 yards) of carry. Boom, mic drop. I was done. I’m kidding.

He’s an athlete. Sure, he works hard and is intense when things don’t go perfectly. Is that a fault? It can be if you start to think you know everything and you did it all by yourself.

He won The Memorial two weeks later. He won three tournaments within three months.

The only negative thing I have to say is that I think it was ungracious to not reply to my simple text of congratulations after The Memorial. Maybe the politeness only applies in person? I think a better man would have said thanks, that maybe I’d helped him a little since he’d been hitting it poorly for six months, but I’ve never heard a word from him.

Don’t worry; I don’t need counseling… haha. I’m old fashioned, so I still think expressing a little gratitude is something people of substance do. He didn’t figure it out all by himself, and everything going wrong is not always something else or someone else.

I just thought I’d give a first-person account of my short experience.”

Here are a few posts from our members reacting to the thread, but make sure to have your say at the link below.

  • Roejye: “Thank you for the story. I guess I’m weird in that I don’t really have an opinion on him. I really liked hearing about how polite he was and how he was willing to take input from others. I think it would have been nice of him to send a response after he won the memorial, but his phone could very well have been blowing up after it.”
  • straightshot7: “Good story and well written. Thanks for sharing. I wouldn’t worry about the lack of text back. I have some close friends who can’t respond to a text to save their lives. I don’t understand it, but I don’t think it’s malicious. Maybe he’ll get back to you later. Either way, you got a cool experience, right?”
  • TexasTurf: “I understand the negative feelings that people have towards him from watching on TV. I felt the same way before I met him. I can’t get into details, but as I have said before, he is the nicest professional golfer I have ever met. I’m an introvert, he is definitely an extrovert. But he goes way out of his way to show his appreciation for the people who are involved in his success.”

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Gianni is the Managing Editor at GolfWRX. He can be contacted at [email protected].

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Brandel Chamblee has a surprising new take on the PGA Tour-LIV stand-off

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One of the more outspoken analysts throughout the LIV Golf vs. PGA Tour saga has been Golf Channel’s Brandel Chamblee.

This week, Chamblee reversed course, saying he believes the PGA Tour should strike a deal with Saudi Arabia’s Private Investment Fund (PIF).

“The PGA Tour is in this pickle like it or not, but, do you want to compete with someone who’s not going to go away, who can outspend you”.

“Every move they make that makes their tour better deletes your tour and causes more division within the tour. So the time is now, to Rory’s point about making a deal, I wouldn’t have said that a year ago… but it is the better end of the bargain.”

Chamblee’s new stance seems to be in line with that of Rory McIlroy, who reportedly wanted to rejoin the PGA Tour board with hopes of pushing a deal with the PIF closer to the finish line.

Chamblee will be in the booth for next week’s PGA Championship which has 16 LIV players in the field.

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Xander Schauffele explains free drop ruling during round one of Wells Fargo Championship

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During Thursday’s opening round of the Wells Fargo Championship, Xander Schauffele blasted his tee shot in the woods to the right of the fairway on the par-4 8th hole.

The ball was almost not found, but Xander’s group managed to track it down just before the three-minute time limit was reached.

When the ball was found, it was just beyond the penalty area close to a fence. In the moment, it seemed incredibly unlikely that Schauffele would be able to hit the ball through the trees towards the green.

However, through the woods and above the fairway, there was a hanging wire from a ShotLink tower that Xander claimed was in his way. He was then granted relief, and two club lengths from the spot positioned him all the way out of trouble. He played his ball onto the front of the green and two-putted for par.

Here is the full video of the interaction between Schauffele and the rules official.

After the round, Xander said he “got really lucky.”

“Got really lucky multiple times, on 1 with Wyndham finding it, 2, being able to move the rocks, and 3, the ShotLink tower being in like my only shot line possible. To walk out there with sort of a no breeze 4 with what I thought was almost out was a really good break.”

“Yeah, I hit it in the trees. My ball was probably like a foot, two feet from the fence. If I — ball was here, fence was kind of here, hitting back this direction.

“If I went towards the green, the fence kind of worked this way so I had what I could hit, a 4-iron or something low and just kind of run it through. If it gets stuck, I’ll just kind of hit my next one out. But I brought the rules official in there with me because I was like, you’ve got to be OK with this because this is literally the only shot I can hit.”

“So Austin [Kaiser] and I moved two massive rocks that weren’t embedded and then I got relief out of the junk and then hit a pretty good shot on the green from there. What was a very stressful moment turned into a pretty stressless par.”

Schauffele finished the round at seven under, which gives him a three-shot lead going into Friday’s second round.

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Report: Tiger Woods voted against Rory McIlroy returning to policy board; Will be the only player negotiating directly with Saudis

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According to a report from The Telegraph, the relationship between Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy has soured.

Last week, reports surfaced that McIlroy, who was a member of the PGA Tour policy board during most of the past few years, was looking to rejoin the board, presumably taking Webb Simpson’s seat.

However, on Wednesday, McIlroy revealed that he will not be rejoining the policy board, due to people on the board being “uncomfortable” with that “for some reason.”

The Telegraph has reported that Tiger Woods was among the players who voted against McIlroy returning to the policy board.

The divide is apparently due to McIlroy pushing for the game of golf to unify, whereas Woods, reportedly, believes the PGA Tour is in a fine position where it currently stands.

The Associated Press added another wrinkle to the situation, reporting that Woods is the only player who will be negotiating directly with the Saudis.

The other members of the committee are PGA Tour commissioner Jay Monahan, board chairman Joe Gorder, John W. Henry of Fenway Sports Group, and Joe Ogilvie, who was a former PGA Tour player.

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