Equipment

Ping G25 Driver, Fairways and Hybrids

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11 years ago

Jan 2, 2013

G25 Driver

Ping’s new G25 driver will help golfers do what the pros do to get more distance – launch the ball higher and faster with less spin.

Marty Jertson, senior design engineer for Ping, said that engineers moved the center of gravity (CG) substantially lower and further back than the company’s previous model, the G20.

Moving the CG lower and further back helps a golfer in two ways: it increases perimeter weighting, which adds forgiveness to shots hit off-center, and it works to deliver the club at impact with more dynamic loft, creating a higher launch angle.

As a result, most testers went down in loft and saw a 1-mph increase in ball speed with the new model, Jertson said.

Ping’s decision to move the CG lower and further back on the G25 driver is different than the approach of TaylorMade, which has touted moving CG lower and more forward for faster ball speeds and reduced spin.

“The negative of [moving CG] forward is that now your movement of inertia, which is so important in a driver, starts to go down,” Jertson said. “Any time you can pull CG away from the face you’re getting a lot more perimeter weighting.”

Jertson said that the face of the G25 is 2 percent larger than the G20, and has a 10 percent higher heel-to-toe inertia and a 17 percent higher top-to-bottom inertia than its predecessor, making it more forgiving. The G25 will come stock with Ping’s 45.75-inch TFC 189D shaft, a high-balance point model that has allowed engineers to add 1 gram of weight to the head and still maintain the company’s desired swing weight of D3. Jertson used the example of two car crashes to explain why a driver with more head weight can be a good thing for distance.

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“If you got hit by a big truck that’s going 60 mph, it’s going to do a lot more damage than a little car going 62 mph,” he said. “It’s basically the same thing with a driver. We’re trying to maximize momentum, even if it means sacrificing a minor amount of speed.”

Trajectory Tuning allows golfers to add or subtract ½ degree of loft beyond the standard setting

The slightly heavier driver head will be good for golfers who prefer aftermarket shafts as well. Most golfers prefer to have their aftermarket-installed shafts trimmed to a length between 45 and 45.25 inches, which means the increased head weight of the G25 will help them maintain a swing weight closer to D3 with shorter shafts.

Variable-thickness face design delivers a powerful energy transfer for faster ball speeds and greater distances

The G25 drivers will be available in 8.5, 9.5, 10.5 and 12-degree lofts, and are adjustable by 0.5 degrees up or down through the company’s adjustable hosel, which is the same weight and size as the company’s fixed hosels.

Above: Comparison photos of the 2013 Ping G25 Driver and the 2011 Ping G20 Driver.

The TFC 189D stock shafts will be offered in Soft R, R, S, Tour Stiff and Tour X-Stiff flexes. The MSRP will be $385. The G25 Driver and the rest of the G25 lineup will hit shelves Feb. 14, with pre-ordering starting today.

Above: Comparison photos of the 2013 Ping G25 Driver and the 2011 Ping G20 Driver.

G25 Fairway Woods

For the Ping’s newest fairway wood, the G25, the company wanted to create a club with a higher launch, higher ball speed and more forgiveness than the G20.

To do this, engineers removed weight from the perimeter of the faces, creating a higher-rebound area that results in faster ball speeds on all hits. The trimmed weight was then moved low and deep in the head, increasing launch angle and providing more forgiveness, especially on shots hit low on the face where most mishits with fairway woods occur.

The new fairway woods will offer a similar amount of spin as the G20 fairway woods, keeping the clubs playable from a variety of surfaces. Jertson said golfers upgrading to the new model should expect to see between 0.5 and 1 mph of increased ball speed.

Comparison photos of the 2013 Ping G25 fw and the 2011 Ping G20 fw

G25 fairway woods will be available in 3 (15 degrees), 4 (16.5 degrees), 5 (18 degrees) and 7 (21 degrees) with Ping’s TFC 189F stock shaft. Unlike the 189D shaft in the G25 driver, the 189F shaft has a standard balance point. It will come in Soft R, R, S, Tour-Stiff and Tour X-Stiff flexes). The MSRP is $255. Additional specs are available below:

G25 Hybrids

Above: The G25 hybrids have a traditional hybrid look that is much more on trend in the market place than the G20, which looked more like a driving iron.

Each of the new hybrids, which are available is 17, 20, 23, 27 and 31 degrees, was engineered to have a specific center of gravity that helps to create the ideal ball flight. In the low-lofted hybrids, the CG is positioned low and deep to help golfers launch the ball higher and with more spin than their iron equivalents, resulting in more playability and a greater carry distances.

But Ping’s higher-lofted hybrids (23 degrees or more) had a tendency to spin too much for most players in the past, leading to shorter carry distances and less control in windy conditions. That’s why the CG of the 23, 27 and 30-degree hybrids creep forward to help golfers reduce spin.

The G25 hybrids also feature a generous amount of camber and sole relief for playability from different surfaces. They’re available with Ping’s TFC 189H stock shaft in Soft R, R, S, Tour-Stiff and Tour X-Stiff flexes. The MSRP is $220.

Additional specs are available below:

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gbyrd12

Jun 17, 2013 at 8:24 pm

I just recently completed a “driver fitting”. Going in I had no particular brand name as a preference. I tried all of the top brands and even some of the lesser known brands. During the process of elimination I kept coming back to the Ping G25. The G25 felt good, looked great, and performed amazingly! I almost had to try to hit a bad drive. The balance of the driver (stiff shaft option) was just perfect. I could “feel” the head of the club throughout the swing. The lower portion of the shaft and the club head felt like butter going through the ball. I increased my club head speed by 2-5mph because I was able to go at the ball without fear of missing (my normal miss is a hook, which is what brought me to the driver fitting).

To confirm my choice I asked my fitting instructor to let me borrow the driver for a round of golf I had planned for the next day. I took the driver out on the course and was more impressed. I was hitting the ball straight with a mid trajectory and plenty of carry. I reached one par 5 in two and had a putt for eagle, on a hole that I would previously never hit a driver because it is so narrow. I can’t wait until my driver comes in next week! BTW – I am replacing the Callaway XHOT.

My last experience with any of the PING products was many years ago when they had the various colored dots on their irons. I couldn’t hit any of the dots and as a result never looked at their products again. I am really glad I tried PING this time.

Garry…

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- Frank Garrett
  
  Nov 4, 2013 at 8:43 pm
  
  Yea playin those front tees really help to reach in two also what helps is when you don’t count the penalty strokes and play don’t count till you like it
  
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metrybill

Jun 10, 2013 at 6:00 pm

Hybrids:
I play and love the earlier model Adams Idea Pro hybrids, Aldila blue ByYou Proto S shafts. Looking to upgrade but not “bound and determined.” Looking at the two new Adams hybrids (9031 and DHY(not sure of the model name)) and the Ping Anser and G25. I like the iron-hybrid, low to none-offset style. Any suggestions or comparisons?
Thanks, metrybill

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karl

May 15, 2013 at 1:56 pm

The biggest change that I noticed for ping’s g25 series is a reduction in shaft choices.

In the g25 the standard shaft is a # 189 in a stiff flex it is 4.8* torque and 58 grams. The only optional “stock” shaft is a #80 for ladies and seniors.

In the g20 series the stock shaft was a #169 4.9* torque in stiff flex and 52 grams of weight. But, there was also the “stock” no extra cost # 169 tour shaft with only 3.9* of torque in a stiff flex and weight of 63 grams.

I have been quite happy with a g20 Driver, 4 wood and 7 wood in the 169 tour regular flex shaft. The 4.6* of torque in my regular flex driver is les than the torque of a stiff flex g25.

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- randyeagle
  
  May 24, 2014 at 9:16 am
  
  So I purchased the g25 driver, with a stock x-stiff shaft(I have a 112mph C.H. speed on my driver). I have about 10 games played and already broke 2 shafts, I have never broken a shaft before. I am a 4 hdc, and do not take a divot with my driver lol. Has anybody else had this problem. I ordered a Aldila shaft and can’t wait to see If I got a good match. Any suggestions on shaft specs for it?
  
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Mar 28, 2013 at 7:19 pm

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rahrah

Jan 28, 2013 at 11:39 pm

I’m so tired of all these ” Adjustable lie” Adjustable face angle ” blah blah blah,,,Just practice , practice,practice, get a couple lessons and use a “normal ” driver!!!!! works for me>>>>>

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- Frank Garrett
  
  Nov 4, 2013 at 8:46 pm
  
  It’s funny that you’re sick of it but yet you still seek it out by looking at this stuff when YOU should be practicing practicing practicing
  
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  - Larry testa
    
    Aug 25, 2014 at 12:33 pm
    
    Frank, why the negativity? You need a hug dude.
    
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GolfDose

Jan 15, 2013 at 8:25 am

The G25s are going to be quite something in 2013. I really want to compare the driver to my RBZ Tour.

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FCM

Jan 13, 2013 at 5:51 pm

It looks sweet! I have the Anser and I can’t wait to compare the two. Good observation on the face angle Joe G. I was wondering the same thing when I saw some online videos and nobody commented on it. I have to assume it will be same as the Anser.

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Enno

Jan 9, 2013 at 8:03 am

Decreasing loft => opens face and vice versa. See the G25 driver video where that is stated by the presenter.

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dj

Jan 4, 2013 at 11:45 am

I’ve been a TM guy for 10 years and for the first time, I’m more interested in another OEM driver setup. I buy into the technical explanations by the engineers at PING and can’t wait to have this compete for a spot in my golf bag. And let me add that this driver looks great.

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Johnny D

Jan 3, 2013 at 3:11 pm

I’m looking forward to seeing and swinging this new G25 line. I liked the G20 but prefered the I20 over the G series. That said there might be enough change between the G20 and the G25 to make a real difference.

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Joe Golfer

Jan 2, 2013 at 11:49 pm

I like the counterbalanced shaft, as I’ve used a Harmon Tour Design counterbalanced shaft in driver and liked it. Ping’s stock shafts are often better than some of those aftermarket shafts that say “designed exclusively for ‘fill in brandname here'”. Also, making the new hosel about the same weight as standard is a big plus, as earlier adjustable hosels on other brands are much heavier, causing problems.
The loft adjustability is minimal, as one can change it only 1/2 degree up or down. And no statement as to how this affects the face angle, closed or open when a change is made.
I’ve seen other photos than these, and the crown seems to slope downwards from front to back much more than the prior model, so I’m guessing you’re likely to get a higher ball flight than you’d expect.

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Troy

Jan 2, 2013 at 10:13 am

Wow, the woods look awesome! Clean looks, not too deep a face. I wonder how hte ball flight is?

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Why Rory McIlroy will likely use the new TaylorMade BRNR Mini Driver Copper at the RBC Heritage

Published

18 hours ago

Apr 17, 2024

Andrew Tursky

Although we spotted Rory McIlroy testing the new TaylorMade BRNR Mini Driver Copper last week during practice rounds at the Masters, he ultimately didn’t decide to use the club in competition.

It seems that will change this week at the 2024 RBC Heritage, played at the short-and-tight Harbour Town Golf Links in Hilton Head.

When asked on Wednesday following his morning Pro-Am if he’d be using the new, nostalgic BRNR Copper this week, McIlroy said, “I think so.”

“I like it,” McIlroy told GolfWRX.com on Tuesday regarding the BRNR. “This would be a good week for it.”

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According to Adrian Rietveld, the Senior Manager of Tour at TaylorMade, the BRNR Mini Driver can help McIlroy position himself properly off the tee at the tight layout.

Here’s what Rietveld told GolfWRX.com on Wednesday:

“For someone like Rory, who’s that long at the top end of the bag, and then you put him on a course like Harbour Town, it’s tough off the tee. It’s tight into the greens, and you have to put yourself in position off the tee to have a shot into the green. It kind of reminds me of Valderrama in Spain, where you can be in the fairway and have no shot into the green.

“I’m caddying for Tommy [Fleetwood] this week, so I was walking the course last night and looking at a few things. There’s just such a small margin for error. You can be standing in the fairway at 300 yards and have a shot, but at 320 you don’t. So if you don’t hit a perfect shot, you could be stuck behind a tree. And then if you’re back at 280, it might be a really tough shot into the small greens.

“So for Rory [with the BRNR], it’s a nice course-specific golf club for him. He’s got both shots with it; he can move it right-to-left or left-to-right. And the main thing about this club has been the accuracy and the dispersion with it. I mean, it’s been amazing for Tommy.

“This was the first event Tommy used a BRNR last year, and I remember talking to him about it, and he said he couldn’t wait to play it at Augusta next year. And he just never took it out of the bag because he’s so comfortable with it, and hitting it off the deck.

“So you look at Rory, and you want to have the tools working to your advantage out here, and the driver could hand-cuff him a bit with all of the shots you’d have to manufacture.”

So, although McIlroy might not be making a permanent switch into the new TaylorMade BRNR Mini Driver Copper, he’s likely to switch into it this week.

His version is lofted at 13.5 degrees, and equipped with a Fujikura Ventus Black 7X shaft.

See more photos of Rory testing the BRNR Mini here

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Equipment

Spotted: TaylorMade P-UDI driving iron

Published

19 hours ago

Apr 17, 2024

Brian Knudson

It seems like the RBC Heritage is full of new gear to be spotted, and you can add TaylorMade’s P-UDI utility irons to that list.

We spotted a 17-degree P-UDI 2-iron in Nick Dunlap’s bag yesterday, and now have some photos of both the 3- and 4-irons. Nick has his P-UDI 2-iron setup with a Project X HZRDUS Black 4th Gen 105g TX shaft.

From what we can tell, this new P-UDI utility iron looks to have some of the usual TaylorMade technology as we can see the Speed Slot on the sole of the club for additional face flexibility. A toe screw is usually used to close off the hollow body design that will probably be filled with a version of TaylorMade’s Speed Foam that is present in the current iron lineup. This hollow body, foam-filled design should offer additional ball speed, soft feel, and sound, as well as an optimized CG for ball flight.

“Forged” is etched into the hosel, so we can assume that either the face, body, or both are forged for a soft and responsive feel. The club looks good from behind and at address, where we can see just a little offset and a topline that I would consider medium thickness. We don’t have the full details on what is under the hood or how many loft options will be available yet.

TaylorMade P-UDI 3-iron – 20°

TaylorMade P-UDI 4-iron – 22°

Check out the rest of our photos from the 2024 RBC Heritage

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Whats in the Bag

Collin Morikawa WITB 2024 (April)

Published

20 hours ago

Apr 17, 2024

GolfWRX Staff

Collin Morikawa what’s in the bag accurate as of the RBC Heritage. More photos from the event here.

Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 LS (9 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ Limited 60 TX (45 inches)

3-wood: TaylorMade Qi10 (13.5 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ Limited 80 TX

Check out more in-hand photos Collin Morikawa’s clubs here.

5-wood: TaylorMade Qi10 (18 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ Limited 80 TX

Irons: TaylorMade P770 (4), P7MC (5-6), P730 (7-PW)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Mid 115 X100 (4-6), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 (7-PW)