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Forum Thread of the Day: “European Tour looking into an incident involving Matt Wallace and his caddie from the BMW International Open”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day surrounds an incident involving Matt Wallace and his caddie, Dave McNeilly, which occurred on Sunday at the European Tour’s BMW International Open. After hitting a shot in the water on 18, Wallace appeared irate with his caddie, which incensed many of our members, as well as plenty of social media users.

According to bunkered.co.uk, the European Tour stated in an email to the publication that they are looking into the incident over allegations of abuse.

A limited number of clips of the incident have surfaced online.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • buckeyefl: “Sky Sports analyst Rich Beem: ‘I’m sorry, but I just don’t enjoy watching that. I know you’re intense but get over yourself.’”
  • Steele47: “Just looked at Wallace’s twitter. He congratulates the winner Andrea Pavan and also noteworthy, makes a point to compliment Pavan’s caddie. LOL.”
  • OldTomMorris: “It’s a pattern with Wallace that he goes after his caddy so often like this and golf commentators, analysts even fans have picked up on this. There has to be a base level of respect and decency; it appears that Wallace often falls short of that.”
  • golfgirlrobin: “He’s getting roasted on his own Twitter account. People don’t seem that amused.”

Entire Thread: “European Tour looking into an incident involving Matt Wallace and his caddie from the BMW International Open”

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  1. HDTVMAN

    Jun 26, 2019 at 4:37 pm

    If you wear the Ping hat, you’re expected to act with respect to the game and others.

  2. ski_co

    Jun 26, 2019 at 2:56 pm

    If the caddie told him it was 180 to cover the water and it was 200 I would understand. Otherwise the final decision on the shot is the players.

  3. Unemployed Caddy

    Jun 26, 2019 at 8:10 am

    Looked like an A and B conversation. Why doesn’t everyone C their way out of it. It’s basically a husband and wife type of relationship, one of them can file for divorce or maybe they can go to couples counseling?? Why are we acting like caddies are so mistreated and incapable of making mistakes?? Can we stop protecting caddies as if they are children with abusive parents…

  4. Sahil

    Jun 26, 2019 at 6:56 am

    I’ve noticed the caddy issue is becoming a noticeable issue.
    Jordon Spieth was another example.
    I’m sure there are tons of others which just gets swept under the carpet.
    There are few questions I have, if @Golfwrx has some history on this.
    My questions are:
    When did the caddy become such a big part of the professional’s game plan?
    To my knowledge, its the pro golfer pitting his skills against the course and other players.
    It should not matter who caddies for the pro golfer. His own skills and decision making will shine through.
    Now I see Jason Day hiring Steve Williams, and making Steve out to be this caddy / coach / mentor / father figure person when in reality, from what I see Jason’s been distracted by other issues off the course.
    “when he says something, I do it” that was Jason’s statement.
    Pro golfers have this huge team, a coach for putting, a coach for iron play, a coach for driving , a mental coach, a personal trainer, a golf specific personal trainer rather.
    When they hit the ball straight in the bush then they blame the caddy.
    As far as I’m concerned, the pro golfers are becoming a bunch of whiney, privileged babies.
    The caddies are there to carry your clubs and take care of your clubs, the golfing is up to the pro golfer. Amateurs use of a good caddy can be useful, a skilled local caddy will have course knowledge, can help speed up play. Help the amateur golfer make better decisions and learn the game.
    Golf is an individual sport. One pro going against other pro’s.

  5. Sahil

    Jun 26, 2019 at 6:46 am

    I’ve noticed the caddy issue is becoming a noticeable issue.
    Jordon Spieth was another example.
    I’m sure there are tons of others which just gets swept under the carpet.
    There are few questions I have, if @Golfwrx has some history on this.
    Wiki quote
    “While the modern game of golf originated in 15th-century Scotland, the game’s ancient origins are unclear and much debated. Some historians trace the sport back to the Roman game of paganica, in which participants used a bent stick to hit a stuffed leather ball.”
    My questions are:
    When did the caddy become such a big part of the professional’s game plan?
    To my knowledge, its the pro golfer pitting his skills against the course and other players.
    It should not matter who caddies for the pro golfer. His own skills and decision making will shine through.
    Now I see Jason Day hiring Steve Williams, and making Steve out to be this caddy / coach / mentor / father figure person when in reality, from what I see Jason’s been distracted by other issues off the course.
    “when he says something, I do it” that was Jason’s statement.
    Pro golfers have this huge team, a coach for putting, a coach for iron play, a coach for driving , a mental coach, a personal trainer, a golf specific personal trainer rather.
    When they hit the ball straight in the bush then they blame the caddy.
    As far as I’m concerned, the pro golfers are becoming a bunch of whiney, privileged babies.
    The caddies are there to carry your clubs and take care of your clubs, the golfing is up to the pro golfer. Amateurs use of a good caddy can be useful, a skilled local caddy will have course knowledge, can help speed up play. Help the amateur golfer make better decisions and learn the game.
    Golf is an individual sport. One pro going against other pro’s.

  6. JThunder

    Jun 25, 2019 at 10:45 pm

    “If the caddie doesn’t like it, he can quit”

    Ahh… the conservative answer to sweatshops, child labor and 80 hour work weeks!

  7. cg

    Jun 25, 2019 at 8:44 pm

    Mind our own business? He’s just emotional?. NO WAY! Quit excusing poor behavior! Wallace was a jerk. What possible thing could his caddy have done to cause him to duck hook his tee shot into the water? A caddy gives numbers and often makes suggestions but in the end, the player is responsible for every golf shot. These guys are playing for big money so the fan’s opinion absolutely do matter. Golf has always been a gentleman’s game. I saw the reaction myself Sunday and I was disgusted.

  8. Johnny Penso

    Jun 25, 2019 at 8:23 pm

    “There has to be a base level of respect and decency; it appears that Wallace often falls short of that.” Get stuffed. That’s between the player and his caddie. If the caddie doesn’t like it he can quit. If the player doesn’t like it he can fire him. MYOB.

  9. Dan

    Jun 25, 2019 at 3:27 pm

    The guys emotional and in the moment. It’s hard to win a tournament. If his caddy can’t handle it he can quit. People complain about players being robots but once they show negative emotions people crucify them.

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The most popular golf hitting nets on Amazon right now (Fall 2020 edition)

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What are the most popular golf hitting nets on Amazon right now? From time to time, we like to get out of our little bubble of OEM releases and what’s being played on tour to look at what golf consumers are buying on one of the largest online retail marketplaces: Amazon.

Here are some of the best-selling golf hitting nets on Amazon as of October 2020.

1. GoSports Golf Practice Hitting Net

From the listing:Improve your swing both indoors or outdoors with this portable at-home golf hitting net (mat not included). Beware of other nets made by foreign companies with no real golf experience. The GoSports golf net was designed in the US and is made by golfers for golfers. Incredibly durable reinforced nylon net with innovative golf ball return feature for added convenience and increased golf swing practice time – no more chasing balls.”

Price: $59.99

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2. FUNME Golf Hitting Net with Target Sheet Golfing Portable Swing Training Aids

From the listing:Golf net practice is made of high intensity nylon and high quality polyester,oxford built the base and the net Golf driver net is wide-opened tent, 9.8ft W x 5.9ft H x 6.5ft D. Perfect for indoor and outdoor use.Like backyard and indoor.Available in two sizes, adults or kids,every golf net has a durable carry bag. Designed with large hitting area and target sheet, this golf net target sheet can better helps beginner improve swing, ball striking and strength, helping you become a professional golf player.”

Price: $60.99

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3. Heavy Duty Golf Net 

From the listing:Once the net is setup the hitting area 10 feet wide by 7 feet tall. This will give you plenty of room to hit any club from a driver to a lob wedge and hit the net. You can use this net as and indoor golf net or the backyard, at a park, in a garage, in the basement, at any field. Simply setup and start swinging. You can setup and take down this net in minutes. You will swing in minutes. When you finish practicing and training you can collapsible in minutes and place in the supplies carry bag.”

Price: $79.99

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4. MESIXI Pop Up Golf Chipping Net

From the listing:The chipping net is not that easy to get flimsy with enhanced design. TWO Color: Very classic colors: red and blue. Pick your favorite color and show off to your friends. NO-BLOW-AWAY DESIGN: We sent 8 ground nails with the pack to spin the net and hitting mats to the ground. No blow away anymore.”

Price: $39.99

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5. RELILAC Pop Up Golf Chipping Net

From the listing:Your Rolilac Golf Chipping Net is a perfect compact and versatile chipping training aid. It features multiple pockets and targets to improve your short distance pitching accuracy and keep challenging yourself. Best for golfers of all levels! Your Rolilac Golf Chipping Net can be packed in a 1.2 ft. handbag, and weighs a mere 1 lbs. Since it’s lightweight, foldable and portable, You can play golf whenever and wherever (backyards, parks, on the course and more) you want, indoor/outdoor day&night without weather limitation.”

Price: $19.99

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6. SAPLIZE Golf Practice Net with Hitting Mat

From the listing:The dimensions of the net is up to 10ft (L) X 7ft(D) X 7ft(H)?large , light but stable. Increasing 30% area of chipping training curtain gives more protection of driving practice. Support driving and chipping practice. Hitting Mat is also included in the the package. The net is made of high impact polyester fabric and oxford cloth with good anti-tearing characteristics. Ideal golf nets for all golfers and can be used for training at indoor, backyard, outdoors, etc.”

Price: $79.99

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7. Aoneky Golf Sports Practice Barrier Net

From the listing:Reinforced with a 1/4″ rope border along perimeter. Knotless mesh construction, rugged durability and premium quality. Hang/Install from vertical poles, cables/wires, structures, fences/trees, hooks. Works great as a barrier for homes or outdoors to practice shots with irons.”

Price: $59.99

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8. SUNHOO Pop-up Golf Chipping Net with Dual Turf Hitting Mat

From the listing:Sunhoo golf chipping net Combo comes with the Lawn Saver Mat, practice Golf Ball and removable Rubber Tee, greatly save your shopping time and shipping cost. The golf net measures 12” by 12” only when folded, 25” by 25” after fully open; Really portable to carry thanks to the collapsible design.”

Price: $39.88

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9. IPOW Golf Practice Net

From the listing:IPOW Golf Training Net adopts the super-strong 210D encrypted Oxford cloth, 170g / yard polyester mesh, and 11mm fiber poles, which makes it able to handle all kinds of severe weather and heavy use. Save Your Time & Energy: The uneven bottom design (high on both sides, low in the middle) is to allow all your shots to be collected into the net, avoiding the trouble of picking up the ball frequently.”

Price: $69.99

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10. Club Champ Golf Practice Net

From the listing:9-feet wide by 7-feet tall. Net stops the hardest of shots. Sturdy, weather-resistant nylon net. Plated steel poles lock together. Easy set up and take down.”

Price: $19.97

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Alternatively, find out how to build your own hitting net and simulator in Ryan Barath’s guide here.

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WRX Insider: Inside the bag of Ryan Palmer

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Ryan Palmer has seen a bit of a career resurgence in the last 9-12 months. The four-time PGA Tour winner has always been known as one of the most consistent ball strikers out there, but even more, a player who stays ridiculously loyal to his clubs.

Case in point: The irons he played before his current set. Palmer cycled through multiple sets of Titleist AP2 710’s for almost nine years. In that time, Titleist introduced four iterations of the AP2.

“Why would he do this?” you ask. “Because they worked,” is the answer.

The same can be said for multiple drivers, 3-woods, and 5-woods that stayed in the bag for 3-4 years at a time.

It might not seem like a big deal but on tour it is. OEMs cycle in new gear almost every year, and these days the equipment improves from cycle to cycle, so having a player like Palmer stick to certain parts for so long is a bit of a rarity. The only other players I know who do it at this rate would be Fred Couples and Bernhard Langer.

RP and I have become friends over the past couple of years, and his approach to equipment is what every golfer should aspire to: it has to work. And if it does, don’t ditch it until it breaks or something comes around that is significantly better.

Over the past 9 months, Ryan has made more changes to his bag than any over the past decade. He replaced a driver, a four-year-old 3-wood (M2), and a five-year-old 5-wood (R15).

But as you will see when we look a bit closer, the changes have been for the better in every capacity.

Driver: TaylorMade SIM (9 degrees, Upright Setting, 18G Back weight)
Shaft: Project X HZURDUS Smoke RDX USA Limited Edition 60 6.5 (D4, Tipped 1″, 45.25 Inches) 

“This combo was good from the start. Faster and longer than my M6 setup. I wanted to draw it a little easier than my M6. We dialed it in with Shawn Mullin and True Temper. It started more left than I wanted, so Adrian went to work to help correct my start line. I still wanted to hit my fade off the tee. He went and changed the sleeve to half-degree flatter and boom…was exactly what I was looking for. I’m excited about what this driver has. Faster, longer, and more stable. Even my mishits are longer and not as offline. With the help of Shawn and True Temper and the great mind of Adrian, we dialed it in. Getting longer at 44 will add to the excitement 2021 will hold.”

According to TaylorMade’s Senior Tour Manager Adrian Rietveld

“The main fix was I found a sleeve that sat max 1/2 flatter for the driver, and I bent loft onto his 3-wood without telling him before I ran it out to him on the course. I knew the 3-wood was near perfect, and when he asked for a backup driver exactly the same, I knew that was money too. He is as good off the tee as anyone—in my top 10 for sure.”

3-wood: TaylorMade Sim Max ([email protected] degrees)
Shaft: Project X HZURDUS Smoke Green “Hulk” 70 6.5 (D4, Tipped 1.5″, 43 Inches)

According to Ryan, his old 3-wood was just fine, but it took a lot of work to turn it over, so on a hole like 13 at Augusta, he couldn’t hit the shot he wanted, with the SIM Max, not only can he turn it over at will, he has every other shot. Rietveld simply added .5 degrees of loft to get spin up a bit. RP says off the tee he can get 280-290 out of this no problem and is champing at the bit to get to Augusta with it.

5-wood: TaylorMade SIM Max (19 degrees)
Shaft: Project X HZURDUS Smoke RDX 80 6.5 (D4, Tipped 2″, 42 Inches)

How did this 5-wood finally bump the trusty R15 out of the bag? “It does everything way better. I loved my old 5-wood because I trusted it with multiple shots. When Adrian dialed me into this one, I added even more versatility to it and some distance, which I’ll never run away from.”

Irons: Srixon ZU85 (23), Srixon Z 785 (5-PW)
Shafts: True Temper Elevate VSS Pro X (4), KBS Tour 130 X (5-PW)

After his final set of 710 AP2 irons basically keeled over and died, RP tested a few sets and fell in love with the turf interaction of the Z785.

“I already get into the ground fine, so I like irons with a bit of bounce to add some speed through the turf. Once I had a chance to get around with these at home, it was pretty clear that they were an ideal replacement to the 710. Now I just hope I can stockpile 20 sets.”

His U85 came after some testing with the Z585 4-iron he played for a few months. He liked but didn’t love that iron for a few reasons but it was a shaft test with the U85/Elevate combo that won him over.

“I was at a tournament and finally brought this combo out to try and VERY quickly knew it was a gamer. I can hit it up/down/left/right and it flies to my number with a nice descent angle. It’s the first time I’ve had that much versatility with a club between my 5-wood and 5-iron. The shaft was the key—it’s simply awesome.”

Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM8 (50-08F, 56-10S @55, 60-04L)
Shafts: KBS Tour 130 X (50), KBS Tour 120 S (56, 60)

SPECS Length/Lie/SW

According to Vokey’s Aaron Dill, Palmer is fairly low maintenance when it comes to his wedges.

“RP is a pure feel player with impeccable tempo. It may look like he’s gliding thru the ball but with his lag and great hands, he not only creates great speed at the bottom when he needs to but can also take a lot off with little thought. The only real tweak we have made lately is going to a softer shaft (KBS 120 S) in his 55/60. This helps with feel obviously but also added a bit more spin out of those shorter shots.”

Putter: Odyssey Rossie II

“I tried some different putters over the past year or so, but this one just has so much history for me. I’ve used it since college, and no matter what, I can always go back to it and feel at home.”

– Ryan Palmer

Grip: Flat Cat

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet

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Ball: Titleist Pro V1x ‘21

“I’m killing this thing. It’s really fast off the driver.”

Carry Distance (Stock) 

Driver: 295

  • Swing speed: 117 (Stock) 120 (Hard)
  • Ball speed: 175 (Stock) Low 180 (Hard)
  • Spin: 2100-2200 (Stock) 1800-1900 (Hard)
  • Launch: Try to stay at 12-13 degrees

3-wood: 265 carry off ground. 275 carry off tee

5-wood: 245 off ground. Stinger 5-wood flies 230-240 and runs out to 270-280

U: 225

5: 200-205

6: 190

7: 175-180

8: 165

9: 152-155

PW: 142-145

50 degree: 130

56 degree: 115

60 degree: 92-95

 

 

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Wyndham Clark WITB (October 2020)

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Driver: PXG 0811 Proto (9 degrees)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana TB 60 TX

Hybrid: PXG 0317 Gen 1 (17 degrees @15.5)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei White HY 90 TX

Irons: PXG 0211 FB Proto (3-9)
Shaft: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 130 X

Wedges: PXG 0311 Sugar Daddy (46), Sugar Daddy Milled (52 degrees @51, 56, 60 degrees @61)
Shaft: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 130 X

Putter: PXG Gunboat

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord

Ball: Titleist Pro V1

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