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Forum Thread of the Day: “If you are a 10 handicap with declining length, what clubs do you buy?”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from tsecor – a 10 handicapper who has noticed in the past couple of years that he has begun to lose some distance. Our members give their views on how tsecor can solve this issue, ranging from new club suggestions to a possible shaft change.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • agolf1: “I’d play Ping G410 like irons. However, you could also try lighter shafts in the more players’ clubs if your strike is still pretty good. Regardless, at some point, a low lofted iron may need to go if the speed isn’t there.”
  • Lepatrique: “Definitely go get fitted because swing tendencies (speed, attack angle, spin rate, etc.) will result in different answers. I carry a 6ir around 190-195 and based on my fitting (3 weeks ago) I found the Srixons – Both the 785 and z forged – went much longer than anything else I hit (holding shaft constant). They spun less and generated a lot of ball speed. 10-15 yards more distance on 6ir. Others – Mizuno 919 tour, mp18, Miura mc501, Apex pro, taylormade 730 – were all right in my typical distance. I passed on the srixons because they actually didn’t spin enough.”
  • 2putttom: “There’s not much help for getting older and losing distance, however, after struggling for two seasons I bagged Srixon 7 series and regained what yardage I had lost over the last five years.”
  • morgan18/19: “You are on the right track with a shaft change, and/or optimization. Keep everything else (flex pattern, swing weight, length, etc.) the same, but drop 10-15 grams from the shafts in your long irons. Good chance you will gain some carry distance, and hit better shots at the end of a round.”

Entire Thread: “If you are a 10 handicap with declining length, what clubs do you buy?”

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  4. kev

    Jun 18, 2019 at 10:09 pm

    i wouldn’t buy clubs. the best way to regain whatever distance you had most likely relates to fitness and flexibility. i lost lots of distance because i’ve gotten overweight by 25 pounds. with that weight gain i lost lots of flexibility. i’ve gone on a exercise program doing medium weights strengthening, stretching, swimming…..i’ve gotten few of the distance i lost back. the other lost yardages lost is from not enough shaft lean. i’ve got in a rut of going up on the ball. once i fix that i should be back to default mode.

  5. Handicapped Handicap

    Jun 16, 2019 at 11:31 pm

    Grab a longer club and when someone asks what you hit always reply with “sand wedge”

  6. Rich

    Jun 9, 2019 at 10:16 pm

    You play the clubs your clubfitter fits you for, based on your personal swing characteristics.

  7. that way

    Jun 9, 2019 at 3:33 pm

    Go get custom fit and custom built… Duh.

  8. Jim

    Jun 9, 2019 at 10:07 am

    Most major club producers are offering distance irons. I suggest picking the heads you like the looks of then demoing those heads with both steel and graphite shafts to see which irons perform the best. An y good club fitter should be able to let you do this, and if you buy the clubs, the fitting is free. Some of these distance irons are Callaway RogueX, Titleist AP3, Ping G700, etc.

  9. SoonerSlim

    Jun 9, 2019 at 9:57 am

    Most of the major club manufacturers are producing a club that is designed with lower lofts for greater distance. For example, Callaway has the Rogue X, Titlelist the AP3, and Ping the G700s. I suggest two things for buying new clubs: First, if you’re like me, pick the club heads you like the looks of, then demo all of them to see which gives you the best performance. Try to demo them with both steel and graphite shafts. You can usually do this with an accomplished fitter, and it you buy the clubs, then the fitting is free.

  10. Matthew Hill

    Jun 9, 2019 at 8:38 am

    Doesn’t anyone realize today’s lofts on clubs are average 2 clubs stronger. pw were always 48 degrees now callaway etc are 41 degrees. Duh! anyone should should hit today’s club longer. Simple reason to upgrade.

  11. Howard Clark

    Jun 9, 2019 at 8:01 am

    Move up to the correct tee so the height you’re generating with your approach matches what the architect intended when he built the hole. Or continue trying to run a 4 iron onto an elevated green that calls for an 8 iron approach. But as a fellow competitor says, “But my ego!!” He used to be a 1. My answer is, “Doesn’t your ego come into play when you shoot 82???”

  12. Jim Lynch

    Jun 9, 2019 at 6:35 am

    I grabbed back 8-10 yards per club and picked up slightly higher trajectory by swapping out my KBS shafts for Aerotech Steelfiber 110’s in my Ping S55’s. Plus, I can beat more balls and not have sore wrists anymore. Yeah, for me it’s probably time for an upgraded head, too, like i210, i500 or Apex Pro but I don’t think you have to overhaul yourself to a game improvement head just yet.

  13. DC

    Jun 8, 2019 at 11:47 pm

    The Srixon players are full of it. 10 handicap and losing distance and you use a players club to gain distance? What am I missing other than your lies? Who vets these BS answers? Get a softer shorter shaft like your useless dong and slice it into the high grass circle jerk where your other “gamers” are making facial shots.

  14. Jack Nash

    Jun 8, 2019 at 8:08 pm

    If you’re a 10 & rising you don’t buy Tour irons. Something like JPX Hot Metal is more like it. If you’re losing distance these are your best bets.

    • James Pickett

      Jun 26, 2019 at 10:29 pm

      I bought a 4-pw set of jpx 900 hot metals with xp95 stiff soft stepped 2x. I carry the 8 iron 150. I mix in the 9,pw,gw in forged with xp105 for windy days. I carry the 4 iron around 195-200 and it’s just stupid how long these clubs are and I’m 50 years old. Technology in shafts and club heads are impressive compared to 10 years ago. The price is high as well though. You’re comment nailed it.

  15. Ben

    Jun 8, 2019 at 7:47 pm

    I switched to hybrids with graphite shafts. I play a 2 through 6 hybrid. They are much easier to hit both from the fairway and in the rough. They seem to get plenty of carry, high launch and stop on the greens. I don’t care what the number is on the club just if it gets there or not. I am 70 years old and this really works of me. I play PXG hybrids which were a little costly (although I got them through the PXG for Heros program). I am a 8 handicap and play a course that is 6800 yards long. Give them a try. I think you’ll be surprised. Good luck

  16. Bob Jones

    Jun 8, 2019 at 5:39 pm

    I bought a rocket-propelled driver.

  17. Bill

    Jun 8, 2019 at 4:45 pm

    Don’t be too proud to move up to the next tee. No shame in it.

    • Peter McGill

      Jun 8, 2019 at 8:03 pm

      They let you do that in the comp? Super!

  18. Steve

    Jun 8, 2019 at 7:12 am

    I gained 20 yds from callaway rogue x’s and improved distribution

  19. Q

    Jun 7, 2019 at 3:39 pm

    Hit the gym, get a trainer, get stronger, it’s never too late
    Stretch more
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Rory McIlroy WITB 2021 (January)

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Driver: TaylorMade SIM2 (10.5 degrees @8.5)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 6 X (45.5 inches, 59.25 lie, D4)

3-wood: TaylorMade SIM2 (15 degrees @13.5)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro White 80 TX (43.25 inches, 58 lie, D4)

5-wood: TaylorMade SIM2 (19 degrees @ 18.25)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro White 90 TX

Irons: TaylorMade P7MB (4-PW)
Shaft: Project X Rifle 7.0 (6.5 in PW)

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 (52-09SB, 56-12SB, 60-08LB)
Shaft: Project X Rifle 6.5

Putter: TaylorMade Spider X Copper (34.25 inches, 2.5 loft, 70 lie)

Ball: 2021 TaylorMade TP5x (#22)

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord (58R 1+1, logo down)

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Driver: TaylorMade SIM (10.5 degrees @9)
Shaft: Aldila 2KXV Blue 60 TX

3-wood: Titleist TSi2 (15 degrees, A1 Setting)
Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD “Engineered for Tour Spec” 75X

Hybrids: Srixon ZX (19, 22 degrees)
Shafts: Oban Revenge Hybrid 85X

Irons: Mizuno MP-18 (4-PW)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Lite X100

Wedges: Cleveland RTX Zip Core Tour Rack (54/10MID, 58/06LOW)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S300

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Align

Putter: Odyssey “O Works” V-Line Fang

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The Titleist Pro V1 is far and away the best-selling ball in golf, and for 2021, the engineers have delivered on their promise to never stop trying to make the best better with the introduction of the all-new Pro V1 and Pro V1x golf balls.

How do you make the most trusted golf balls better?

When the designers and engineers at Titleist are looking for feedback, they go right to the top—that means the best players in the world. Engineers seek to find out not just what they like about their current golf ball, but what if anything can be improved upon.

After lengthy discussion and research with the best golfers in the world, improvement came down to three factors.

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By combining these wants from golfers, together with new and proven technologies, Titleist is giving golfers what they believe to the very best golf balls the company has ever produced, and players agree. 

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2021 Titleist Pro V1 technology inside and out

Just like with golf clubs, engineers don’t focus on just one performance factor when designing a golf ball. It’s about bringing each component together to have it perform at the highest level, and for a golf ball, that usually means designing from the inside out. However, with the 2021 Pro V1 and Pro V1x balls, it actually worked the other way around.

New Spherically-tiled Tetrahedral Dimple Designs – Let me start by saying I don’t come up with these names, this is all about engineering. The Pro V1 features a new 388 dimple layout, while the Pro V1x has 348. Both patterns have been optimized for each golf ball model’s specific characteristics to maximize distance and flight consistency.

To make it easy to remember, the Pro V1 is intended to provide a penetrating trajectory while Pro V1x will fly higher.

It’s important to note that this is the first totally new dimple redesign of the Titleist Pro V1 golf balls since 2011, and since that time the Titleist R&D team has gone through the painstaking process of designing, manufacturing, and tested more than 1,900 aerodynamic patterns—including no less than 60 different iterations of the new 2021 Pro V1’s 388 dimple layout and more than 30 versions of Pro V1x’s 348 dimple design as per Titleist.

“It takes years of work – we’ve been working on these new packages for almost a decade – but it is that commitment to research that ensures each golf ball is optimized to fly at its longest and most efficient trajectory.” – Mike Madson, Titleist R&D’s Director of Aerodynamics & Research Engineering

Reformulated 2.0 ZG Process Cores – As mentioned off the top, at the core of every golf ball is, well, a core (see what I did there?) and each core has to designed to deliver maximum ball speed and consistency shot after shot. The ZG process ensures that through production, each solid core Pro V1 and dual-core Pro V1x is going to deliver distance and soft feel.

Fast High-Flex Casing Layer – The casing layer between the core and the cover adds speed and lowers spin on long game shots. This casing layer is comprised of a highly-resilient, high-speed (another way of saying firm) ionomer which was originally developed for the Pro V1x Left Dash—and like with any piece of golf technology has trickled its way into other products in the line where it can be used to increase performance variables.

Softer Cast Urethane Cover – To complete the package and deliver on the number one thing players requested with the new golf balls, the new formula for the cast urethane cover is the softest formulation Titleist has ever used the Pro V1 and Pro V1x balls to increases spin around the green and offer players more control. 

Price and availability

The new 2021 Pro V1 and Pro V1x golf balls will be available in golf shops starting January 27.

Both the Pro V1 and Pro V1x will be priced at $49.99 and be available in white with play numbers 1-4 and  5-8 along with the same numbers (00-99) through custom. High optic yellow will also be an option but only with the play numbers 1-4.

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