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Forum Thread of the Day: “Ben Hogan’s 1967 Ryder Cup team pep talk”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from Jagpilotohio who posted a speech that Ben Hogan is believed to have given to his players before the 1967 Ryder Cup, an event which saw the U.S. rout Great Britain by a scoreline of 23½–8½. Here is the unusual call to arms posted in the thread:

Here’s the reaction from some of our members, but make sure to check out the entire thread and have your say on the speech at the link below.

  • KennyP: “Is this legitimate? If so, it’s brilliant. No mention of the pod system, or “investing in the process” back then!”
  • MarkFromTheUk: “Words of a bygone era, when men were men. Golf is full of primadonnas now. You can’t straight talk them, as they all need their egos massaged and be told how amazing they are.”
  • caniac6: “I bet Ben didn’t have advice from a handful of asst. captains.”

Entire Thread: “Ben Hogan’s 1967 Ryder Cup team pep talk”

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8 Comments

  1. Tony Lynam

    Oct 22, 2018 at 8:08 pm

    Those days are long gone. What a shame too.

  2. joro

    Oct 22, 2018 at 1:23 pm

    Ha ha ha, is that true? If so it was brilliant. Very unlike Ben, but do we really know him or what he was thinking all the time. Great stuff.

  3. Cheese

    Oct 22, 2018 at 11:13 am

    Of course this is when it was just GB&I, and they had to add what amounted to club pros to round out their team. It was over before the first shot was hit.

    The fact of the matter is, today’s European players are way, way better than what people give them credit for. Molinari, Fleetwood, Stenson, Rose and Garcia are among the five best ball strikers on the planet. Not a surprise they won.

  4. Jamie

    Oct 20, 2018 at 5:02 pm

    An abundance of hurt feelings if this were said today. Hogan would probably be fined by the Tour somehow.

  5. Robert

    Oct 20, 2018 at 12:58 pm

    This is like something Dan Jenkins would write.
    Love it.

  6. Brad

    Oct 20, 2018 at 6:10 am

    I can believe this is legit and what Ben Hogan really said to the boys back in 67.

    That’s about the sort of thing my High School football would have said to us before a big game. Now, no one has anything real or authentic to say – other than a bunch of politically correct BS.

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In our forums, our members have been discussing how often they upgrade their irons. WRXer ‘DoubleDrops’ kicks off the thread saying:

“I’m getting an itch to buy a new set of irons. I’ve had mine for a few years now, and they’re still in good shape, but a new set is mighty tempting. Just curious – on average, how long do you keep a set of irons before trying something different?”

And our members have been sharing what they feel is the optimum time to make a change.

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In our forums, our members have been discussing wedges. WRXer ‘sheezymaneezy’ is on the hunt for some softer feeling wedges than what he currently has, and reaches out to our members who have been sharing their suggestions in our forum.

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In our forums, our members have been discussing when or if there’s an optimal time to move away from game improvement irons. WRXer ‘ThreePuttForPar’ has recently gotten the golf bug again and has worked his way down to a 7 handicap, and reaches out to our members saying:

“When I got the bug again I went through a few sets and settled on Titleist T300. Started back shooting high 80s- mid-90s, depending on the course, but I have got back to breaking 80 once in a while on easier courses. 

I have been loving T300’s forgiveness and distance, especially when first getting back into it. But now that I’m finding the face more often again. I’m really contemplating something more like a Srixon ZX5/7, Miz 225 or Jpx pro, P770/p790, i525…

I’ve also never been custom fit, ever, in 25 years of golf. I’ve always just used the 90 return policy at my local Roger Dunn golf shop to “fit myself” by keep swapping clubs till I get something I like.

Anyone else blow the dust off their game with GI irons and then move back to mid-playerish irons? Did you see any benefits other than feel? Do custom fits really make that big of a difference if you live near a shop where you can just keep trying all the different off the rack sets?”

And our members have been sharing their thoughts on the topic in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

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  • golfinbrad: “Nothing wrong with doing a fitting. Trying different head/shaft combos can be both fun and educational. I don’t recommend going in with the mindset I’m getting a new set, period! See how they feel, look and perform to what you have. Congrats on getting the handicap down. That doesn’t mean you need to ditch the GIs. If you are hitting them well, I would stick with them unless you find something better. Replacing irons is not the same as a driver.”

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