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Forum Thread of the Day: “Suggestions for the next Ryder Cup”

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Today’s Forum Thread of the Day comes from member jimb6golf, who opens the forum for potential strategies going forward for the U.S. side after their dismal performance at Le Golf National. Amongst his proposed plans, jimb6golf suggests that the next U.S. Ryder Cup captain should “Pick players that really want to be there. Sure seemed like a lot of players were unenthusiastic or just tired from the FedEx Cup playoffs.

With the wounds still fresh from the heavy defeat suffered at the hands of Europe last week, plenty of our members have offered their thoughts on where it all went wrong for the U.S. side and the potential for new approaches moving forward. Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion at the link below:

  • BlueIslander80: “The USA needs to learn that whilst the PGA Tour is the daddy, golf is a sport played around the world in all its glorious forms, and until they learn to adapt, adjust and develop, they’ll only succeed in Ryder Cups played on their specific courses. Europe have the ability to turn up in the USA and win, because of a willingness to learn and adapt.
  • joeylough: “Maybe more of the USA team should have played at the French Open and took spring break over in France. Nothing like preparing for an event.
  • bullsfan: “I believe that in order to change the outcomes of these formats is to pick the best players based on location of the event, not by who is top of the money list and qualified with points.
  • Rweaves6: Most of the Europeans have always seen the RC as their 5th major. Never once heard an American say the same thing. For me that says it all.

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  1. Bruce

    Oct 6, 2018 at 11:26 am

    Two suggestions.
    1. The captain breeds to be a golf coach not a former player. Coaching and team building skills differ from playing experience. Let’s try a successful college coach for the next captain.
    2. Automatic team qualifiers should be based only on recent play: who in the PGA is playing well during the 2 months preceding the Ryder Cup. This criterion alone would have changed the team members significantly.

  2. Coaach747

    Oct 5, 2018 at 3:27 pm

    Since the results are dismal, and complaints abundant regarding the Captaincy, let’s offer the post to a European.

  3. William Davis

    Oct 5, 2018 at 1:33 pm

    Writing at a true Brit I think you should just carry on as before. I fully expect and hope you do win next time otherwise you may not want to play this nasty game any more.

  4. ChipNRun

    Oct 3, 2018 at 8:03 pm

    Scheiss offers an interesting vector.

    It reminds me of the backstory of Miracle on Ice, when the USA team beat the Soviet Army team and won the 1980 Olympics gold. As the USA team shaped up, the USOC was concerned at the mix of players coach Herb Brooks selected. Herb’s uptight elders were SHOCKED that top players were being omitted.

    Coach Brooks replied: “I need the right players (teamable), not the ‘best’ players.”

    And, I’ve heard only one mention of the learning curve advantage the Europeans had: Many of the Europeans had played Le Golf Nationale in the French Open or at other times.

    In the amateur Walker Cup (men) and Curtis Cup (women), both teams travel to the host course a few weeks ahead of time. They then play it to gain a military-style reconnaissance.
    * Did any of the American pros play in the French Open? Yes. Justin Thomas who went 4-1-0 for the top USA performance.
    * Or even take a week off and fly to France for a practice round? Furyk said some of the US team members did so.

    Another point on learning curve: No learning during the round. Hole No. 3 on Sat PM Foursomes: Molinari pushes the team driver shot into the right water hazard. DeChambeau, rather than playing safe, also puts a driver shot into the hazard.

    One statistic that stands out. The Europeans hit quite a few more fairways that the Americans.

    • RGL

      Oct 4, 2018 at 2:33 pm

      Your last statement is complete nonsense. 56% of fairways hit compared to 51%. In a sample with relatively few data points that does not stand out one bit.

  5. Tom

    Oct 3, 2018 at 7:42 pm

    Ryder Cup is an over-hyped meaningless exhibition…..yawn. Just a source of money for the PGA and networks….snake oil salesmen.

  6. Scheiss

    Oct 3, 2018 at 6:28 pm

    The whole thing should be Captain’s pick like he would pick a national football/soccer team. No need for the players to try and get points to qualify. Then it would squarely be on the Captain and the team organisation and then the players to perform since they were picked. It would also then free the players to not have to worry about having to play because they got the points even though they don’t want to play. Right now some of them just win tournaments and moneys and are automatically picked yet have no say if they want to refuse to play. It puts unnecessary pressure on them that way.
    Leave it to the Captain to pick the entire team

  7. Stewart Franks

    Oct 3, 2018 at 4:42 pm

    They need to pick young hungry rookies. Xander Schaufele types, no ego just wants to play great golf. Nothing against the big names but they’re just too individual. And yes, US courses are too one dimensional. As soon as a course is tricked up they’re stuck.

    • Tom

      Oct 3, 2018 at 8:42 pm

      No big names, lower viewers…ain’t gonna happen, its ALLLLL about $$$$

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In our forums, our members have been discussing wedges. WRXer ‘sheezymaneezy’ is on the hunt for some softer feeling wedges than what he currently has, and reaches out to our members who have been sharing their suggestions in our forum.

Here are a few posts from the thread, but make sure to check out the entire discussion and have your say at the link below.

  • Honman: “Without going too niche, I’d suggest trying Mizuno’s T22 wedges as they are forged.”
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In our forums, our members have been discussing when or if there’s an optimal time to move away from game improvement irons. WRXer ‘ThreePuttForPar’ has recently gotten the golf bug again and has worked his way down to a 7 handicap, and reaches out to our members saying:

“When I got the bug again I went through a few sets and settled on Titleist T300. Started back shooting high 80s- mid-90s, depending on the course, but I have got back to breaking 80 once in a while on easier courses. 

I have been loving T300’s forgiveness and distance, especially when first getting back into it. But now that I’m finding the face more often again. I’m really contemplating something more like a Srixon ZX5/7, Miz 225 or Jpx pro, P770/p790, i525…

I’ve also never been custom fit, ever, in 25 years of golf. I’ve always just used the 90 return policy at my local Roger Dunn golf shop to “fit myself” by keep swapping clubs till I get something I like.

Anyone else blow the dust off their game with GI irons and then move back to mid-playerish irons? Did you see any benefits other than feel? Do custom fits really make that big of a difference if you live near a shop where you can just keep trying all the different off the rack sets?”

And our members have been sharing their thoughts on the topic in our forum.

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  • chinaski: “Try and get some irons you can test off the grass. Turf interaction is more important than forgiveness. GI only really help if you have trouble with launch or are always hitting off the toe.”
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  • Crimson62185: “I haven’t personally tested drivers recently, but from early reviews and feedback I’ve heard from several fitters, I believe it has to be the Ping G430 Max.”
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