There are a variety of reasons you can miss shots, but from a directional stand point, lie angles are one of the most critical factors. The vertical line test, is a simple way to quickly and easily figure out if your lie angles are right for you and help you figure out why you are missing your target.
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Whats in the Bag
Taylor Pendrith’s winning WITB: 2024 CJ Cup Byron Nelson
Driver: Ping G430 LST (9 degrees) Buy here.
Shaft: Accra TZ Six ST
3-wood: Ping G430 Max (15 degrees) Buy here.
Shaft: Project X HZRDUS Smoke Green 80 6.5 TX
7-wood: Ping G425 Max (20.5 degrees) Buy here.
Shaft: Project X HZRDUS Smoke Green 90 6.5 TX
Irons: Srixon ZX (2, 3) Buy here, Srixon ZX7 Mk II (4-9) Buy here.
Shafts: Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.5 90, 6.5 100 (2-3), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
Wedges: Cleveland RTX 6 Tour Rack (46-10 Mid, 52-10 Mid, 56-10 Mid, 60-9 Full) Buy here.
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
Putter: Odyssey Jailbird Versa Buy here.
Grip: SuperStroke Zenergy Flatso 1.0
Grips: Golf Pride MCC
The winning WITB is presented by 2nd Swing Golf. 2nd Swing has more than 100,000 new and pre-swung golf clubs available in six store locations and online. Check them out here.
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Ben Kohles WITB 2024 (May)
Driver: Titleist TSR3 (9 degrees, D1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X
3-wood: TaylorMade Stealth Plus (15 degrees)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 8 X
Hybrid: Titleist TSR3 (19 degrees, D1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue HB 9 X
Irons: Titleist T200 (4, 5), Titleist 620 CB (6-9)
Shafts: Project X 6.0
Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (46-10F, 50-12F, 54-12D, 60)
Shafts: Project X 6.0
Putter: Scotty Cameron P5 prototype
Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet
Ball: Titleist Pro V1
Check out more in-hand photos of Ben Kohles’ clubs in the forums.
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Kris Kim WITB 2024 (May)
- Kris Kim what’s in the bag accurate as of the CJ Cup Byron Nelson. More photos from the event here.
Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 (9 degrees @7)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 60 TX
3-wood: TaylorMade Qi10 Tour (15 degrees @13.5)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana WB 73 TX
Irons: TaylorMade P770 (2, 4), TaylorMade P7MB (5-PW)
Shafts: Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 80 TX (2), Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour 120 X
Wedges: TaylorMade MG4 (50-09SB, 56-12SB, 60-11TW)
Shafts: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus3 WV 125
Putter: TaylorMade Spider Tour
Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord
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Ben Robertson
Oct 7, 2018 at 5:25 am
Anyone use this exercise for determing the right lie angle for their putter?
geohogan
Oct 4, 2018 at 11:12 pm
If your shafts have zero kick, zero droop and zero torque at impact then dynamic lie angle will be consistent throughout the iron set.
If shafts are as Moe Norman labelled them, “Licorice sticks”, then every shaft throughout the iron set, may have unique dynamic lie angles. A very good reason to use a quality shaft.
jesse parkison
Oct 4, 2018 at 1:21 pm
I love this trick and use it often when I am having ball flight issues. HERE’S A TIP: when using dry-erase marker the post-impact club mark will not show up if you take a large divot or the ground is wet. Both water and dirt at velocity will remove the dry erase marker. I only perform this trick off a mat/pad, and a dry mat is best. Alternatively you can put tape on your club face to help the ink stick.
Johnny Penso
Oct 3, 2018 at 10:08 pm
My fitter did that test with me when he was checking the lie angles of my Dad’s old Wilson Staff blades after I took them in for re-gripping. Worked well for me.
williamhiiWyahoo.com
Oct 3, 2018 at 8:49 pm
hers what I know…I go places and they try to tell me that Im 1.5* upright…. I am not! I play my irons 2* FLAT. If i touch a iron iron thats upright it either shanks or hooks lol
I build and do all my own clubs
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Oct 3, 2018 at 8:50 pm
here’s
Stewart Franks
Oct 3, 2018 at 4:34 pm
This method only works if you are hitting shots with a square clubface. So make sure you have something measuring clubface
stevet
Oct 3, 2018 at 3:51 pm
There is a “static” lie angle at address and a “dynamic” lie angle at impact.
At static address the club heel should be touching the ground with the toe off the ground. At impact the shaft tip will “droop” down and the club sole will be parallel to the ground. How do you resolve these different shaft dynamics and clubhead lies in club fitting? Thanks.
Howard Jones
Oct 3, 2018 at 1:03 pm
Yes, use a whiteboard pen or dry erase marker on the ball.
That line will be “printed” on the face, and tell if lie angles are good or not, but its not correct that this lines dont tell us more than if we need to go up or flat, we can judge the need for how much we need to adjust with this labels top make it way easier.
http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/1355102-open-source-face-labels-for-lie-angle-diy-lie-angle-testing/
Ryan B
Oct 3, 2018 at 8:10 pm
Hi Howard,
That’s a great tool! You provide a lot of great input here on GolfWRX. I like to use a sharpie and take the marks off with acetone but 100& dry erase are a great solution too.
I prefer to use the line test as a starting point and finalize using ball flight and launch monitor.
Cheers
Paul Portney
Oct 3, 2018 at 12:25 pm
This was interesting to watch, so thanks for posting it. Is the idea to see the mark on your clubface left by the line you suggest putting on the ball? That was a little unclear to me.
Josh D
Oct 3, 2018 at 7:32 pm
yes its so that the line transfers to the club face from the ball like u thought.