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Brandel Chamblee says Tiger Woods may be the biggest underachiever in golf history. Could he possibly be right?

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Brandel Chamblee would certainly say he’s done nothing more than offer his honest, reasoned opinions on Tiger Woods throughout his career.

The Golf Channel analysts’s detractors, however, feel Chamblee has an anti-Woods bias at best and makes incendiary remarks that he knows aren’t true for attention, at worst.

The most recent example of Chamblee telling his truth regarding Woods came on the Golf Digest podcast.

“I would argue he got the least out of his talent of any player, maybe in history,” Chamblee said. “What other player would you have imagined was going to win 30 major championships? Twenty-five, 30 major championships and 100-plus events? There’s no other player that any of us would ever have imagined — I think he was better than any of us ever imagined. But once he got going, we thought, well . . . he’s going to be Genghis Khan to the record books.”

Blasphemy! Lunacy! Clickbait take in the extreme! Right? Or does Chamblee have a point?

Certainly, Woods’ three swing overhauls cost him wins and likely major championships. But how many? And certainly, too, Woods’ injuries and the fallout from his infidelity scandal cost him wins. But how many?

Arnold Palmer famously said Woods would win as many majors as Palmer and Jack Nicklaus combined (25). Woods is 11 short of that number. Has there been another golfer in history whose total number of major wins is >10 short of what was expected? Is Brandel right?

Let us know what you think, GolfWRX members.

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  1. Geoffrey Holland

    Aug 13, 2018 at 2:50 pm

    Brandel Chamblee is a giant idiot.

  2. Klaus

    Aug 10, 2018 at 2:17 am

    If Jacks playing against today’s field of players he wins 9 majors tops. And that’s just Major’s – Tigers second only to Snead in tour wins (6 more than Jack).

    Brandlee’s an idiot.

    • Membrane

      Aug 10, 2018 at 2:49 am

      And if Eldrick was playing against today’s field of players he wins 7. And that’s just majors – Eldrick will have won half as many regular Tour events against these guys.

    • OleMan

      Aug 13, 2018 at 11:21 am

      Tiger is a has been! The networks are wasting good TV time showing this guy hitting shots! Almost has NEVER BEEN GOOD ENOUGH!

      • RJ

        Aug 13, 2018 at 8:06 pm

        @Oleman -14 in a major “is a has been”? Why are you so mad at Tiger? If Tiger “is a has been” then all other with less than his record of wins and majors should just retire or quit. Your thoughts?

  3. Klaus107

    Aug 10, 2018 at 2:15 am

    If Jacks playing against today’s field of players he wins 9 majors tops. And that’s just Major’s – Tigers second only to Snead in tour wins (6 more than Jack).

    Brandlee’s an idiot.

  4. Mat

    Aug 9, 2018 at 5:40 pm

    The only “underachievement” is that he couldn’t shut Brandel up.

  5. Terry, this is not a Game

    Aug 9, 2018 at 12:34 pm

    He’s 100% right. Tiger should have Joe DiMaggio’d the record books.

    • Geoffrey Holland

      Aug 13, 2018 at 2:46 pm

      Interesting comment considering that Joe DiMaggio owns very few baseball records.

  6. acew/7iron

    Aug 9, 2018 at 8:31 am

    By comparison..There are a few that overachieved IMO…

    Els comes to mind and the GOAT Jack himself probably pulled out a few that he should not have along the way including that last one at Augusta in his late 40’s.

  7. The Dude

    Aug 9, 2018 at 8:21 am

    Fred Couples is by far the biggest under achiever in the history of golf given his talent and only 1 major.

  8. golferdg

    Aug 9, 2018 at 8:17 am

    He is as bad a journalist as he was a golfer

  9. RocketBall

    Aug 9, 2018 at 3:59 am

    Brandel is trying to make us forget we saw his swing at the Senior British Open. What a sad little man.

    • TONEY P

      Aug 10, 2018 at 7:53 pm

      That was funny. Branded was always jealous of Tiger and how easy he won.

  10. rex235

    Aug 8, 2018 at 10:41 pm

    Lets see if anyone else wins a major on a broken leg first…

    “Underachive” that.

    • rex235

      Aug 8, 2018 at 10:44 pm

      “Underachieve…” on a broken leg?.

      • W

        Aug 9, 2018 at 1:04 am

        Nothing to do with a broken leg. It’s the women

      • Geohogan

        Aug 11, 2018 at 7:53 am

        With all due respect for Bob May, on a broken leg, Tiger beat
        a player who had zero career wins. Brandel is right.. underacheiver.

        • Geoffrey Holland

          Aug 13, 2018 at 2:49 pm

          Tiger didn’t have a broken leg when he beat Bob May. He had a broken leg when he beat Rocco Mediate who had tour wins under his belt.

        • Bob Pegram

          Aug 14, 2018 at 8:45 am

          It was a hairline fracture – a crack. It is still painful, but not a “broken leg” in the usual sense.

  11. Andrew Levy

    Aug 8, 2018 at 9:53 pm

    Brandel loves to stir the pot and he is always on the wrong side to get people talking. Plus his name is Brandel they want to change the name to Branden.

  12. Jim McPherson

    Aug 8, 2018 at 9:47 pm

    Def fell short of expectations established in his prime. Truth has been spoken here.

  13. Caroline

    Aug 8, 2018 at 9:44 pm

    LOL, a guy that got more out of his talent by just making some cuts on the PGA tour (Brandel) knows first hand just how hard it is to even make a top ten in a PGA tournament is going to claim Tiger should have done more??? LOL, maybe I would believe John Daly could have done a little better with his talent…come on Brandel Tiger has done just fine…

  14. Tyler Durden

    Aug 8, 2018 at 9:03 pm

    So Brandel says tiger should’ve won way more majors and gets roasted. Arnie said basically the same thing and nothing.
    GolfWRX commenters are the worst.

  15. Devilsadvocate

    Aug 8, 2018 at 7:15 pm

    As much as branded irritates me sometimes… I absolutely agree with him here. When u take into account the swing change time, the injury time, and obviously what the scandal did to his confidence it really is quite sad to think about what might have been .. that being said if he does manage to somehow win 19, or even 18 really, it would be the best sports comeback story of all time in my opinion

  16. Charlie

    Aug 8, 2018 at 6:39 pm

    I wonder what Brandel’s ratio of Likes to Shanks has been here on GolfWRX. He certainly hasn’t underachieved.

  17. Moses

    Aug 8, 2018 at 6:34 pm

    He’sssssssss baaaaaack!!!!!!!

  18. 2putttom

    Aug 8, 2018 at 3:38 pm

    A sports career is like a box of chocolates

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Multiple PGA champ says ‘Phil was not missed’ at Champions Dinner

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The PGA Championship’s past champions’ dinner on Tuesday was a bit different than usual. Phil Mickelson, the tournament’s defending champion was nowhere to be found.

At a typical PGA Championship, Mickelson would have hosted the past champions’ dinner. The duties would include picking the menu and giving gifts to those in attendance. This year, those duties fell to the PGA of America due to Phil’s absence.

According to former champion Dave Stockton, Mickelson was “not missed”.

“It was a fun evening. Phil was not missed,” said Dave Stockton, who won the 1970 and ’76 PGA Championships. “I think Phil would have been a big distraction. The story here this week is the PGA.”

Stockton is partly responsible for having the champions’ dinner at the PGA Championship include only past winners, which is something that started last year at Kiawah Island.

“At Kiawah last year we had I think six or seven people in the room besides just players, and like we did last night, we sat around and they can’t separate us out because there’s so many players, former champions, that it was unbelievable,” Stockton said. “We ended the night, and everybody stayed. I think it blew the PGA officers away.”

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Major champ calls for audio release of bombshell Mickelson interview

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On Wednesday, GolfWRX reported on an excerpt of 2002 PGA Champion Rich Beem’s interview with Golf Magic and Boylesports Latest Golf Betting, in which he doesn’t hold back his view on Alan Shipnuck, author of the recently published biography of Phil Mickelson.

Put simply, Beem said, “I don’t trust Alan. It’s nothing personal, I just don’t trust what he writes,” and the theme has continued today with more details of the interview that he had with the bookmaker’s blog.

Whilst accepting the subject of the book, Phil Mickelson, has made errors and will need to ask for a deal of forgiveness to be allowed back on the PGA Tour, Beem has doubts about the context of the controversial comments that have turned the golf world upside down over the last couple of months.

Mickelson has become a (self?) exiled player since calling LIV Golf’s Saudi backers “scary…to deal with” and advising that they were a way of leveraging with the PGA Tour and their “obnoxious greed.”

Having been unhappy with the way Shipnuck handled the coverage of his rookie year in his 2003 publication, ‘Bud, Sweat & Tees’ – “I think that he tries to sensationalist everything,” – Beem wants some clearance on the circumstances of the controversial comments that appeared in the latest tome.

“What was printed by Alan Shipnuk, I want to be clear on this, I want to hear the audio,” Beem told the bookmaker site. “I want to hear exactly what Phil said and I want to hear the context of what he said because the written word is so different than the spoken word that you can take it in any context you want.”

“If you write me a letter, I can read that letter in so many different ways trying to figure out the way you wrote it. I want to hear what he said and how he said it before I really determine how I feel because I look at the source with a little disdain – I’m not a fan. ”

“Once I hear the context, I could probably make a better determination, but it’s hard for me to comment much more on Phil. He’s always been a unique character on the PGA Tour, and there’s a thousand stories out there as we all probably know.”

With nobody knowing for sure where we will see Mickelson next tee it up, Beemer has some advice for the 2021 PGA Champion should he wish to come back to the main tour.

“To go out and to try and redeem yourself, then what you need to do is become a model citizen. You need to come back, hat in hand at the PGA Tour if that’s where your allegiance is, and you need to apologise to every single player on the range.”

“You know, ‘Hey, listen, sorry for having this controversy, didn’t mean it to distract from you and this great tour that we’re part of’, because there are a lot more things to the PGA Tour that, besides the money they play for, are funnelled in.”

“You can give me a cheque for $5 million for winning a tournament, but the things that I get from the PGA Tour are so much more valuable in some respects. And there’s a laundry list of them.”

The current PGA champion is the first non-injured player of the modern era to miss the defence of his title, and with just three weeks to go before the first LIV event in London, we are still in the dark  as to where he next tees it up.

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‘This is why some people hate golf’ – Golfer suffers incredibly cruel disqualification

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A golfer has been disqualified from the USGA 4-ball this morning after having two grips on his putter that were a quarter of an inch too close together.

Popular Twitter account “Monday Q Info” shared the news of the equipment violation today with the following tweet:

“If you have two grips on the putter, they have to be a minimum of 1.5 inches apart. His were 1.25 inches apart…One of the USGA officials saw it yesterday afternoon…Went back to the hotel to confirm the rule…Measured this AM in parking lot and DQ’d him.”

Former professional golfer, Will Strickler weighed in on the disqualification.

It’s been a year that continues to throw up the unlikeliest of rules violations, but this one may just be about the harshest so far of 2022.

One golf fan on Twitter probably summed up the feelings of many frustrated people reacting to the reason for the DQ, saying: “And this is why some people hate golf.”

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