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Tursky’s Takes: Justin Thomas vs. PGA Tour fans

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GolfWRX Editor Andrew Tursky — with his new “Tursky’s Takes” segment — discusses what Justin Thomas SHOULD have done when the golf fan heckled him, and why PGA Tour fans should never root for a golfer to fail.

Watch the video below to see Tursky’s take.

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  1. Marc

    Feb 28, 2018 at 8:00 pm

    What’s Justin going to do at this year’s Ryder Cup? Ask the fans to be quiet while he hits?
    I don’t think so.

  2. Kelly

    Feb 28, 2018 at 3:44 pm

    What was the big deal. It was said after the shot had been hit. JT needs to grow a set of balls and quit acting like a little kid who just got told no.

  3. Joro

    Feb 28, 2018 at 2:25 pm

    What a bunch of stupid comments, Straighten up Justin and quit acting like a spoiled Brat and encouraging these A-Holes. There fans today are not the reserved fans of yesterday, take your millions and be quiet.

  4. Bbp1

    Feb 28, 2018 at 2:17 pm

    What people get out of the yelling is a mystery. It doesn’t get them any recognition. The Barstool guys have this all wrong. No you shouldn’t want to yell out against another player. It’s fine to root against a player but keep it to yourself. It’s not funny. Not entertaining. Adds nothing to the event. It’s interesting to see how this lack of self control has creeped into the culture.

    Part of it is the new idea “I can do what ever I want because it makes me happy, regardless of whether it screws up the experience for others” and it does come off as a bummer to a lot of people.

    Sort of like the dudes who drive down the street in their Honda Accord that has headers with the window down all the way and the radios jacked up all the way. Dbag.

  5. Boyo

    Feb 28, 2018 at 1:12 pm

    Right on Mikey.
    Throw the bums out.
    Nobody wants to hear it.

  6. Robert

    Feb 28, 2018 at 11:54 am

    Justin needs to talk with Monty, Sergio (re-gripping episodes), Fat Jack. and many more.
    This is not a new problem. Get over it and play golf.

  7. MikeyB

    Feb 27, 2018 at 11:28 pm

    Ok, toss out the dude who wants the ball in the bunker. When he’s gone,find the *ssclowns who yell ‘Bobba Booey!’ or ‘Mashed Pataytahs!’ or the always original ‘It’s in da’ hole!’after every goddamn tee shot.

    Oh and while PGA security gets those idiots into the parking lot, I’ll go make some popcorn to watch the 1,000+ riot cops descending on the 16th at the WM Open and arresting ALL the morons who either throw beer cans into the bunkers OR boo bad tee shots. Now watching drunks get their melons cracked live on the Golf Channel? THAT there is entertainment gold.

    Of course Brandel Chamblee and David Duval will have to offer opposing viewpoints on how the cops are using a long enough backswing, staying on plane, and following through on their baton strikes….

    Look. Boorish behaviour has existed in golf since 5 minutes after the game was invented, ok? “Aye McTavish, you goat f*cker, you swing that stick thing like a wee girl!” It only exists because the mob and the media tolerate it. If the mob turns and collectively points to the offender, or if the media willingly and publicly helps ID the jerks, then those who might act in this fashion will know they will ALWAYS be caught and dealt with, so why chance it?

    I appreciate the point when it comes to not having jerks on the course at PGA events. The reality is the genie has been out of the bottle for some time now. It’s going to take a couple years to get it back in.

    • makaveli

      Feb 28, 2018 at 12:05 am

      The PDW “Who do you think you are, I am” is a classic. By the way its Baba Booey…Hey Nowww

    • Alfredo Smith

      Feb 28, 2018 at 11:46 pm

      Wow MikeyB! You absolutely nailed it!

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Host Michael Williams has breaking news on The PGA Merchandise Show going virtual in 2021 from Marc Simon of PGA Golf Exhibitions. Also features John Buboltz with the latest putters and irons from Argolf.

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Barney Adams: Ball rollback isn’t the right move to combat “The Golfer of Tomorrow”

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The announcing crew at the 2020 U.S. Open seemed obsessed with “the bombers”—players who drove the ball extreme distances with little regard for the occasional tee shot into the rough. TV has selected Bryson DeChambeau as their representative, given his length and victory.

I thought I’d wait a bit to see what the industry sources had to say. I can’t say it’s unanimous, because I haven’t seen everything, but the theme is: “Get Ready for The Golfer of Tomorrow”

  • 350-yard carry
  • Clubhead speed which tears through the rough allowing the ball to launch high and carry to the green
  • The ‘new’ instructor who teaches distance be it ground up or whatever new method is used
  • Gym sessions producing athletes who look more like football players
  • And last, a whole new shelf of steroids for golf

At the same time the USGA and its organizational allies are planning meetings focusing on not if the ball will be rolled back, but when—clearly, influenced by visual evidence from a great Winged Foot course in our national championship.

Let’s look deeper!

A hypothetical: go back a few months. You are on the planning committee for the U.S. Open to be held at Winged Foot, one of America’s great venues. This year because of COVID-19 there will be no galleries, something never experienced at a USGA major golf event. I repeat, your committee is planning for the U.S. Open. That implies “Open Rough” a term that is significant on its own. You don’t play from Open Rough, you escape…maybe.

The nature of Open Rough is a thick chunky base with long tendrils reaching skyward. These make it very difficult to find your ball in the best of circumstances and when attempting to advance these tendrils wrap themselves around your hosel closing the face, sending your ball deeper into hostile territory. That’s if you can even find it, Open rough has “disappeared” many balls over the years and done so within full view of gallery spectators aiding course marshals. The rule of thumb for competitors has always been to find the most reasonable patch of fairway and get out.

But this is the year of COVID-19. No galleries. Marshals, but relatively few because of no galleries. Now, considering that normal U.S. Open rough will produce many searches where marshals are important, the shortage of them will cause endless searches—which don’t make for great TV viewing. So, a decision is made, cut the rough down so shots can be found. Still in the rough but sitting on the chunky base and very often can be played. A tough call for the purist but an objective economic evaluation leaves no choice.

The announcers regale us with astonishing distances and swing speeds that allow escape from Open Rough that used to be impossible! The golf publications jump on this theme and predict that the Golfer of Tomorrow will be “DeChambeau-like” not sweet swingers but physical hulks rewriting the book on distance strongly influenced by no fear of the rough.

My point here is those publications and instructors, jumping on the “longer and slightly crooked is better” bandwagon have added 2+2 and gotten 5 when using the 2020 U.S. Open as a premise.

DeChambeau is a great and powerful player, however, I don’t think he’s known for his putting. Now I may have dozed off but I don’t remember him being widely praised for his putting. He should have been, it was terrific, probably influenced his score! He is our National Champion, an unsurpassable honor. But his style has me betting that the USGA is working on dates to discuss changing the golf ball, as in making it shorter.

I’m 100% against such a move. Golf is a game where amateurs can go to the same course play the same clubs and given a huge difference in skill achieve some measure of affiliation with the pros. A birdie is a birdie, not a long or short ball birdie. From a business perspective, the overwhelming majority of those golfers financially supporting golf are over 50. And we want them to hit it shorter?

Well, Mr. Adams what would you do? I know zero about golf ball manufacturing, but keeping the distance the same I’d change the dimples to increase curvature—just enough so it doesn’t affect slower swings that much but very high swing speeds so it’s in the player’s head

More thoughts. As an admitted TV viewer, get rid of those yardage books. Fine for practice rounds but when the bell rings it should be player and caddie, not an “on green” conference. What’s next, a staff meeting?

I’ll conclude with a note to the PGA Tour and, importantly, an admonition. To the PGA Tour: The minute a tee goes into the ground on #1 every player is on the clock. Stroke penalties, not fines, will get their attention.

To the rest of the golfing world: Let’s not blindly pursue the Golfer of Tomorrow concept without considerably deeper study.

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