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1. 

   Tour Pro

   Jun 9, 2016 at 6:26 am

   No OEM will ever release a single length set. At best it will be a “custom option” if its ever offered.

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   Matt Vernot

   Apr 18, 2016 at 10:37 am

   These are really interesting. In comparing these side by side with his Edel set, there is no external weight on these. Cobra’s R&D department must have done an exceptional job to get the weight into the head (probably the toe side) and making them look “normal”

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   Bruce Gerhold

   Apr 16, 2016 at 11:35 am

   Reply to “lost in the convo”. I fabricated and play a set of “2 length” irons: 2 length because of difficulty with large weight adjustments required when using off the shelf iron heads. My 3,4,5,6 irons are 37 inches long and my 7,8,9,PW are 36 inches long. Love the simplicity – one swing and 2 different ball positions covers all irons; play much better.
   1. single length irons, and 2 length irons require lie adjustment assigning a lie to each club length. Note minimal lie adjustment (small changes) when using 2 lengths.
   2. The notion of loosing length with lon g irons is a myth propagated by those taking our $ for old style irons. I hit my 3 iron 195 and my PW 105 which is very similar to old style irons.
   The science (new term for golf clubs) is : at club-ball impact, MOMENTUM is conserved. Momentum – ( head mass) x (head velocity). Now, my 3 iron is 2 inches shorter than standard (about 5%) which costs 5% head velocity. BUT the club head is 21 g heavier which is 8.6% higher than old style heads. Thus, the momentum transfer to the ball – think ball velocity – actually increases with same length or 2 length irons. YOU DO NOT SACRIFICE DISTANCE OR SUFFER FROM SMALL DISTANCE INCREMENTS BETWEEN IRONS.
   As a bonus, the shorter clubs help you make solid strikes for added consistency and length.

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     jeff

     Apr 17, 2016 at 10:22 pm

     momentum is MV^2

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     Hawk

     Apr 19, 2016 at 8:54 am

     All the research I’ve ever done on this has always showed one thing in regards to length of club in irons. Since most irons use a .5″ increment that translates into less than 2 yard distance in length between clubs. So really if all the clubs were the same exact loft and one the length was different you would increase or decrease distance by 2 yards for every .5″ difference in length. Loft however; has a much higher difference in distance, which is why same length clubs with proper loft gaps works!

     As always though all the clubs have to be the same exact weight, head weight, shaft, grip, swing weight, and so forth for the same length shaft to actually work properly. This is also the reason why you can’t make a set unless you buy custom heads and shafts.

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4. 

   Chuck D

   Apr 15, 2016 at 3:14 am

   I recently saw Ping Scottsdale’s selling for $299 in Torrance California at a shop called Golf Exchange.

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5. 

   :-p

   Apr 15, 2016 at 3:08 am

   I would like to touch those irons, just once :-ppppp

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6. 

   Eye4golf

   Apr 13, 2016 at 11:28 pm

   Does anyone know where I can find selling prices for a old Scottsdale PO box ping putter , I own one and want to see what it’s worth? Kushin model.

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   Matty

   Apr 13, 2016 at 12:16 pm

   I have a question about single-length irons. Does the offset have to be constant throughout, or should there be small changes in offset?

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     Scott

     Apr 13, 2016 at 3:16 pm

     Tom Wishon’s site has some good information on that. Tom has a set designed to be single length.

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     nathan

     Apr 13, 2016 at 5:04 pm

     All the clubs should have the same offset. Not sure why Tom’s set varies the offset from club to club.

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       Teaj

       Apr 13, 2016 at 6:40 pm

       +1 as I believe offset is to help with the squaring of the club of a longer moment.

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     WillThaPill

     Apr 14, 2016 at 5:55 pm

     +1

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     setter02

     May 3, 2016 at 8:25 pm

     Don’t tell Butch he can’t teach because he can’t play as well as his students…

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8. 

   Lost in the convo

   Apr 13, 2016 at 10:38 am

   is the fact that the lie angle in his dingle length set is due his particular swing. For anyone else that is thinking of trying single length irons the lie angle doesn’t have to be so upright. I would think the biggest issue for anyone wanting to attempt single length irons would be the club head weights all the same and handling the yardage gaps. I think a lot of guys are sticking w/ tradition here and not even willing to try a set of single length clubs. Would be interested in trying if a company stepped up and did like the new Ben Hogan Golf irons and allowed a 30 day trial of a few clubs. Just my 2 cents.

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     Joshuaplaysgolf

     Apr 13, 2016 at 12:11 pm

     ‘Dingle length’ lol. I’m not sure if your asking actual questions, since your post of void of actual punctuation…but if you are actually asking, yes, weighting and distance falling is the challenge here. My buddy is going through the process of getting single length irons dialed in right now. The lie angle is unique to Dechambeau’s stance/swing. It’s VERY upright and he takes most of the angle out of his wrists at address, so his arms and the shaft are almost parallel. If your going the single length route, you’ll just have to have the lie angle measured for your swing, most likely not 13* upright.

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       SirBigSpur

       Apr 13, 2016 at 12:31 pm

       “your post of void of actual punctuation.”

       Dude. You’re that guy aren’t you?

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         Joshuaplaysgolf

         Apr 13, 2016 at 5:25 pm

         Lol. Not intentionally, it just makes it really difficult to discern if it’s a rhetorical question or for real asking. But sure, I’ll be ‘that guy’ in this instance.

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9. 

   Smoking gun

   Apr 13, 2016 at 10:09 am

   Like the song say’s, ” money money money mon’ey, money”!!!

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10. 

    M

    Apr 13, 2016 at 8:50 am

    Yikes, not sure I could look down at a neck that is that rounded, Cobra may have to work on that a little, maybe get Miura to forge them with spin welded hosels and stamp cobra on them

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11. 

    Chuck D

    Apr 13, 2016 at 6:31 am

    Wait a minute, they’ve been forcing this Einstein golfer dude and his crude scientific looking equipment down our throats for the past year and he jumps ship, to now hit traditional “looking” I know, I know already, they’re still one length, settle down, golf gear?! Sheesh, what’s next, he’s
    gonna switch to a baseball cap, or stop the presses, a visor? Or maybe white pants? Well Edel, he couldn’t win the Mahztaz with your gear, so now the musical clubs begin. You….uhhh….GO DECHAMBEAU, or however he spells his name.

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12. 

    MLECUNI

    Apr 13, 2016 at 3:23 am

    I still don’t know why edel made him a new set recently. Sad for them to put hard work and have to let him go.

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13. 

    jordy

    Apr 12, 2016 at 11:22 pm

    Those are some upright looking lie angles!

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14. 

    cody

    Apr 12, 2016 at 6:58 pm

    interesting that it is blade low lofts and cavity high lofts. kinda backwards isnt it?

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      Greg Moore

      Apr 12, 2016 at 7:40 pm

      There is a full set of muscle back irons and a full set of cavity back irons. Not sure if he will put either one in play this week

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        Richard

        Apr 13, 2016 at 12:05 am

        Money talks, he will play a Cobra Iron before long even if it is not one of these two….and you can bet Cobra is biting at the bit to get it set so they can make a version for the public…I would think if your playing a one length set of irons you will have to be fit for lie angle for sure…

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        cody

        Apr 13, 2016 at 11:21 am

        thanks, it seemed so strange to me.

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      Teaj

      Apr 13, 2016 at 6:47 pm

      could be two sets. it could also be that the CB with the added weight to the lower lofted irons spins to much due to the added weight to the head to bring the swing weight up because of the shorter shaft length.

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