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In the last 10 years, there have been major advancements in both golf equipment and golf equipment fitting technology. Systems such as FlightScope and TrackMan have given fitting professionals the data they need to maximize every golfer’s performance, regardless of their skill set or technique.

As a result, a good fitting professional can help just about any golfer make gains in distance, accuracy or both simply by dialing in their equipment. But the process isn’t completely foolproof. There are several common, completely avoidable things I’ve seen golfers do before, during and after a fitting that will compromise their results.

Take note of these 10 things to do (and not to do) before your next fitting, and you’ll be on your way to an enjoyable, productive fitting session.

No. 1: Do Your Homework

The biggest mistake golfers can make is not doing the research necessary to find an accredited club fitter. There are various club fitting resources that enable consumers to find club fitters throughout the United States. One of them, Golf Digest, publishes a list each year including the Top 100 Club Fitters in the US. The list is based on three criteria:

  1. Location: Must be easily accessible to the public.
  2. The facility must fit clubs from the top manufacturers.
  3. The fitter must receive high recommendations from their America’s 100 Greatest Golf Courses ratings panelists and industry sources.

Another great way to find a good fitter is to ask your friends, golf league members or even a good player in your area where they were fit and what their experience was like. You can quickly get some honest feedback and make an educated decision on whether or not that particular fitter might be a good option for you.

No. 2: Have Realistic Expectations

Before, during and after your fitting, remind yourself that there are no shortcuts in golf. It’s not realistic to expect 30-or-40-yard distance gains just from changing equipment.

On the other hand, most first-time customers gain around one-to-two clubs of distance from a complete fitting, while also minimizing their common misses. As a result, most customers that do full bag fittings often find themselves hitting two clubs less into greens. Hitting a 7 iron into a green is a lot easier than a 5 iron, right?

No. 3: The Pro Can Wait

I think it’s hugely important for golfers to take lessons to improve their games, but I wouldn’t recommend it immediately before a fitting. Think of it this way: Would you take a lesson the morning of the club championship? Unfortunately, many golfers come to me for a fitting and say:

“Well, I just finished my lesson, so I should be hitting it great.”

I cringe when I hear them say that, because the golfer is typically going to be focused on their swing instead of producing quality shots. It’s important to give your fitter an accurate representation of your game, which means you shouldn’t try to mask your flaws with a lesson immediately beforehand. If you regularly take lessons, a good clubfitter will ask you about your golf goals and what you’re working on. Depending on your situation, he might fit you to new equipment that allows you to grow into the planned advancements in your game.

No. 4: Play Your Game

A good club fitter has worked with golfers of all different abilities, from professionals to people who are just learning how to play golf. What I’m getting at is that they’re not going to be overly impressed or discouraged about your skills, because they’ve seen it all. If you normally hit a fade and, don’t try to use your “draw” swing during the fitting. All you’re doing is getting fit to a swing you don’t normally make.

Even if you think you’re lousy, your swing is likely a lot more consistent than you think. Play your own game to see the most improvement from your new sticks.

No. 5: Gear Up!

A lot of our customers forget to bring their current equipment with them to a fitting, which can be a problem for a fitter. The intention is to find something that is better than your current equipment, right?

That’s why it’s important for a fitter to see the shots you typically hit with your old clubs, as well as the improvement you get from the new gear. Hearing you talk about the shots you hit with your old clubs is helpful, but it’s nowhere near as valuable as being able to analyze the numbers the clubs produce on golf radar.

No. 6: What you see is what you get

It is extremely important when you get fit to make sure you have full visual ball flight whenever possible. Hitting indoors or into a net won’t provide you with the necessary feedback to get a solid overall view of the club.

Golfers often tend to swing slightly different when hitting indoors due to the lack of feedback. Having four walls around a golfer will also change the sound of the ball at impact, which for many players is the main source of “feel.” It often alters their ability to accurately judge if a certain club feels good or not.

Even in our outdoor hitting bays, I will often have players step out of the bay and onto the range to hit a few balls in order to give them an accurate measure of sound. In any fitting, half the equation should always be subjective measures like look and feel. Even if the golf radar results are great, if a golfer hates the looks and feel of the club it’s likely not the one for them.

No. 7: Try The Exact Equipment You’re Getting

It’s important that golfers are able to try the exact club their fitter recommends for them.

Let’s say a golfer wants to try different shafts for his or her driver because theirs is too “spinny.” They head down to their local club fitter with their TaylorMade R11s driver only to find out that the custom fitter only has shafts with TaylorMade’s R1 driver tip. The simple solution is to try some shafts in the R1. Whatever shaft works the best in the R1 should work well in their R11S, right? Wrong!

Most driver heads perform differently with different shafts, even if they’re made by the same company and are only one or two generations apart. The R1 is going to spin less than R11s for most players, and finding a shaft that works well in the R1 means just that–it will work well in R1. Sure, PGA Tour players like Tiger Woods and Adam Scott tend to play the same shafts in their woods year after year, but their drivers are hand-picked to have the loft, face angle and weighting they prefer.

The only way for a golfer to find out what works well for them is to hit the models that they intend to play. There are exceptions to this rule, like when a custom fitter doesn’t have a specific grip, shaft flex or shaft weight, but avoid buying a head/shaft combo that you haven’t tested at all costs.

No. 8: You Can’t Try Everything

It’s unrealistic to think that you’ll be able to hit every club head and shaft combination. A thorough driver fitting session should last around an hour, and typically takes at least 60 balls to dial in the right head and shaft combo. That’s a lot of physical and mental stress packed into an hour, and it’s more stress for golfers who decide to get fit for other clubs on the same day.

That’s why it’s important for you and your fitter to be efficient. Let’s say you wanted to test a Titleist 913 D2 on every setting (there’s 16) and each of Titleist’s six stock shaft options (there’s six not counting the different flex and weight options). If you hit one ball on each setting with each of the different shafts, you’d hit 96 balls, and that’s if you only tested one loft. Typically it takes at least five shots to get a dependable average, so now we’re talking about upwards of 480 shots. If you wanted to try all the different lofts (there’s five) that number swells to 2400 shots, and you haven’t even tried the smaller, lower-spinning D3 model or any aftermarket shafts.

It’s important to try things you’re interested in, but trying everything just isn’t an option for most golfers. Trust that your fitter can recognize what will and won’t work for you, and will tailor your testing accordingly.

No. 9: Embrace The Fall 

Getting fit in the fall is an option many golfers overlook. Around that time, the new equipment photos are starting to leak out on GolfWRX. That’s why  many golfers want to hold out until the spring, when they can swing the latest and greatest from the manufacturers. But getting fit in the fall actually makes a lot of sense, especially for golfers who live in cold climates.

Here’s why: By fall, most golfer have a full summer of golf under their belt. Their swing is grooved and their game is as sharp as it’s going to get that season. And the fact that the 2013 equipment has dropped significantly in price is another bonus.

Many club fitters’ schedules also slow down in the fall, which means he or she will be able to spend more time with you during your fitting and may let you sneak back onto golf radar for tuneups afterward. I know that new club releases are enticing, but how many of us are sharp for a fitting when there’s still snow on the ground?

No. 10: Just Peg It

So you followed my advice, and now you have new clubs that have you hitting the ball farther, straighter and more consistent. Don’t expect your scores to drop immediately, though. Regardless of how good your golf radar numbers were with the new clubs, it’s going to take a little time to adjust.

A fitting will often allow golfers to hit the ball into places they were unable to reach in the past. Getting used to your new yardages, turf interaction, ball flight and course strategy may take some time. Don’t surprised if you find yourself reaching some hazards or flying some greens you may not have had issues with in the past.

At the end of the day, golf is a game of hard work and patience. New clubs can be a huge help, but it’s still up to you to execute the shots. Take the time to learn the distances each of your new clubs fly and do your best to trust those yardages. Be patient with yourself and your clubs, and you’ll find that the game will start to become more enjoyable.

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Pete currently works at Carl's Golfland in Bloomfield Hills, Mich., as a Certified Performance Club Fitter. He is one of 33 TrackMan Masters worldwide, and has spent almost four years focusing on advanced club fitting techniques to properly fit equipment for golfers of all levels. "I've been fortunate to learn from some of the best club fitters, instructors, and various industry leaders in and around the golf business," Pete says. "I continue to learn each and every day and strive to be the best." Pete can be reached at [email protected]

27 Comments

27 Comments

  1. Doc

    Dec 19, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    These are my comments based on what I have learned regarding fitting:

    Money drives golf, money drives everything here in the good old USA.

    So why would anyone be amazed that money drives golf equipment and the industry involved with golf equipment.

    I’m new to this club fitting industry, 10 years now, and know diddly squat compared to the gurus here that even I am in awe of when they produce an equation that I can really follow and understand, much more get something out if it for my customers. My hats off to them always.

    BUT:
    I have fitted golfers/hackers/duffers/high handicappers almost exclusively since day one simply because 90-95% of all golfers fall into this category. At 63 years of age, they are my ‘peeps’.

    According to the PGA the average round of golf is still @ 100. So equipment has not helped the average golfer at all except to lighten their wallets.

    What I have seen help golfers that I have built clubs for is what has made a second pass these days. It’s the idea that the standard half inch increment per club is/was wrong for the ‘average’ golfer. This goes back to that 50-70 year old ’38-24 rule’. Don’t know where it came from but back in the late 70’s/early 80’s when I first got interested in working on clubs just for fun, it was told me by a pro at Las Colinas in Irving, Texas. It’s simple. The average hacker (the 90-95% group) cannot regularly hit a ball consistently with a club over 38 inches in length or with less loft than 24 degrees. Hitting consistently is meant to mean hitting a specific club a specific distance and straight (within a 10 yard right or left of dead center of the fairway). And it’s true still today! Now isn’t that amazing? (Sure if you are 6 foot 6 inches you would require a longer club. We’re talking about the average height golfer.)

    Once you weed out past/present/future pros-semipros-college athletes-high school athletes-club pros-students in a pga program; you, end up with the 90-95% percent of golfers (men and women).

    I build one club for a person and then send them off for lessons at a really great place here in Arlington Texas. They return with a write up of their results and I tweak the club and have them hit a small bucket of balls and send them back. After 2 lessons and one club built for their ability they are hitting the ball so well they are smiling like a possum eating poop. We then talk about what clubs they really need, not want, and which clubs will help them score the best without putting them into debt for life. Some times I just continue building one club at a time till they feel like they have all distances covered.

    It’s not the name brand that makes a good golf swing or game or score. It’s having a person understand their limits, accept those limits, understand their possible scoring accomplishments down the road and having them learn to play golf with the mind as much as with the body. Teach them to take a shot so that the ball ends up where the next preferred shot will be taken from instead of just standing up there and taking a swing at it. This in no way means a high dollar club won’t help a person with a good to great swing and the means to afford a more expensive set of clubs. But this person is in the minority of the 95%. There are always a bunch of guys or gals that just swing naturally and hit the ball better than the rest. Who knows why? In my opinion they are just natural athletes that have a golf club in their hands at the moment.

    Bubba Watson said a while back that the club head is the least important part of the club for weekend players. The actual size of the grip fitting your hands in a comfortable manner so that you felt you had control of the club was number one, next was a shaft that was correct for your swing speed and physical ability. He said if these two were correct that any brand would do since these days manufacturing is so close from one to the other that a hacker/weekend player would never be able to feel or tell the difference and performance would not differ.

    Same thing for spining and puring, the weekend hobbyist would never feel it until they have a grooved swing they can repeat and can hit the ball with excellent results. And even then they may not feel anything. They may notice straighter shots from time to time and even some greater distance at times. But the average weekend player does not have a swing they can repeat over and over again. That’s why they are high handicappers. And that’s okay, most golfers really are in the 95% group. It’s okay.

    A pro? Sure they would/could appreciate and feel the difference, maybe.

    According to a club fitting vendor that does puring, Tiger Woods was given several sets, 2 had been pured. He chose two sets that he said felt/hit best, one was a pured set, one was not. So? Here is Tiger Woods and he could not pick out the two pured sets. But for the vast majority of golfers that want to play and enjoy the game, they would never know if it’s a ping or a callaway. They’d only know it was a good or bad shot.

    I’m always reading, asking, looking for the best info on golf equipment and places like this forum are great. I just can’t imagine them not being here for the masses to read. You do a great job for golf.

    Doc

  2. John kuczeski

    Nov 6, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    First off, while I tend to agree that being fitted is not( at every players point an time) worthwhile, I do believe that for most or all individuals who aspire to learn an perform better that it has merit!

    The beginner who is just learning needs proper instruction first an foremost before ever considering a fitting. Like what I believe most commenters are saying, unless you work on your game an put in the time a effort a fitting is not going to cure your swing ills. However, for those who like me started out as a 20+ handicap an has continued to read an study an practice the game! I do believe a crossover occurs where the fitting is warranted.

    Earlier this year I was fitted(by Pete Farner) who wrote this article. I learned a great deal during this fitting an I did select new irons an a new hybrid. My handicap has gone from a 12 to a 9. Would I say it is all due to the fitting? No, but I also know that once Pete provided the fitting it gave me the confidence to know that I had the proper club in my hands based on my current swing tendencies. My faults were minimized as well(dispersion of my shots) an I am more consistent with my swing.

    I truly believe like many people, that we are not able to be knowledgeable in everything an I see fitters as the experts to help individuals like myself! I found the investment to be worthwhile an if through continued effort on my part( time and more lessons) I feel a need for a new set again, I would certainly make the investment again!

    For what it is worth, Pete was great to work with an I would highly recommend him!

  3. Eric

    Oct 16, 2013 at 4:18 am

    Hi, I work at FlightScope. We have a map called “Find a FlightScope near you”. Here’s the link if you’d like to have a look – http://flightscope.com/index.php/component/option,com_phocamaps/Itemid,83/id,1/view,map/

  4. Jason

    Sep 29, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    Great article. Thanks for emphasizing bringing your current clubs to the fitting. I do about 250 fittings on average per year and at least 20% don’t bring their current clubs, which makes it difficult to know whether or not we are really accomplishing our goals.

    Also, thanks to the last commenter about committing to a new set of clubs.

  5. Steve

    Sep 27, 2013 at 5:50 am

    I’ve been suffering from an elbow injury for many months, and my doctor’s advice was quite simple : either stop playing golf for at least 6 months, or switch to graphite shafts. However, none of the “off the shelf” clubs with graphite shafts worked for me (feel, ball flight way to high, …), so scheduled a 2h fitting with the thought of finding the ideal graphite shaft to put into my Ping i20s – was thinking Aerotech Steelfiber, or some other high-end graphite iron shafts

    The fitting itself was an eye opening experience on many fronts. First one was that even though I’d been fitted for the i20s at a big brand golf retailer, the both lie angle and club length were still off. Second surprise was that the clubhead characteristics on the Ping i20 were all wrong for me, independent of shaft (backspin way too high, smash factor too low, …). Third surprise was the impact shaft flex, weight, shaft kickpoint, … have on overall club performance.

    I ended up ordering a set of clubs with slightly smaller head, less offset, and a significantly lighter shaft than what I had before, and given the clubs were on sale and the fitter gave me a good price on my i20s, the total cost was less than if I’d just put the graphite shafts in my existing clubs.

    The lofts on the new clubs are stronger than my older ones, but I’ve still gained over 1.5 club lengths comparing a 6 iron in the new clubs to a 5 iron in the old ones (now shoot an 8-iron on a par 3 where I used to be between a 5 and a 6 iron), with a significantly better ball flight and obviously less strain on my elbow.

    One final point : if the results of a club fitting is a set that’s completely different from what you had in mind (as it was in my case), you have to be open minded about it, and you have to commit to the new clubs – it took me 6-8 rounds and quite a few range sessions before I was really seeing the benefits of the new clubs.

  6. Radar

    Sep 27, 2013 at 4:38 am

    Nick Faldo said something along the lines – you know if a club is wrong after 5 swings. No need to try to force something to work 🙂
    Good article.

    I feel for you Soul.

  7. Matt

    Sep 27, 2013 at 1:34 am

    Hmm I guess I’m just not sold on club fitting. I’ve said this before on another post, I believe it’s just another sales ploy. I remember 20 years ago when I took up the game club fitters would honestly tell you a player couldn’t really be fit until they developed a consistent swing. The thing is once you develop a consistent swing you can or at least should be able to fit yourself simply from knowing what feels good and what to look for. Just out of curiosity I got on a launch monitor to see what my numbers where on the driver I selected through feel and visual reference. It only backed up what I already knew. Club head speed averaged 112, ball speed 166, launch angle 12 degrees, spin rate about 2300, average carry 280, average total 305. I feel the launch monitor exaggerated those last two numbers but they are close to what I see on the course. My point I knew that driver was right for me with out a fitter and the launch monitor only backed it up. I seriously doubt any fitter could improve on that!

    • TJ

      Sep 27, 2013 at 10:22 am

      Sounds like you have a pretty good swing, if you were a high to mid handy and were in the market for a new set as you are using clubs that are 20 years old (blade or CB) you wouldn’t want some help with purchasing a new set? Talking with A CPGA pro I know had a customer come in that suffered from the Duck Hooks (quack!) his swing was had a severe inside to out move with a lower swing speed. his club had a mature (lite) shaft in it, the only way to get rid of the quack hook was to put a stiff shaft in it. id say in this case the fitting worked as I would assume that most shops including myself would have put this individual in a lite flex shaft just based on swing speed.

      • Matt

        Sep 28, 2013 at 12:43 am

        TJ I guess I’m just expecting anyone who’s serious enough about the game to consider a custom fitting to take the time to read the articles on different equipment and how it affects ball flight. That’s what I did when I was new to the game. I remember having a driver that was really ballooning on me and wondering why. I read an article on how shafts affect ball flight. I learned shafts have different kick points and heavier shafts tend to reduce spin. From that I had my driver re-shafted with a Graphite Design YS-7 at the time a real high end shaft. It had a high kick point to bring down launch and was an upper 70 gram shaft to bring down spin, it transformed that driver and I loved it for a long time. Probably around that same time I read an article from some pro I don’t recall who that said he only gives a club 7 swings if he doesn’t like it he moves on to the next. His reasoning was if you swing a club much more than that you’ll begin to adjust your swing to that club. I’ve used that same method ever since. And from what you said about the guy with the quacks I’m not a bit surprised they put him in a stiff that’s what I would expect based on the fact he had a light senior shaft. It sounds like he was probably flipping his hands and the stiffer shaft slowed the club head down.

    • Andy B

      Sep 27, 2013 at 5:52 pm

      Are you seriously that naive. You may one of the select few who can just pick up a stock club and play a great game and have great numbers on trackman. BUT, the 99 percent of golfers would benefit from a professional fitting. Height and wrist to floor measurement are almost always different for every golfer. So lets just say that every golfer has the perfect swing, the length and lie angle would still need to be adjusted to fit properly. The best players in the world get custom fit for every single club in the bag. Dont you think if anyone can tell based of feel alone, the professionals would be the ones to do this. Every pro also has clubs based on their height, wrist to floor measurement, and swing characteristics. You may be good enough to pick a club and make it work for your swing and tell which one feels best and therefore produce pretty good numbers. But if a pga touring professional wants to be measured to find the correct length shaft and lie angle, I will probably benefit from the same custom fitting even more due to more swing flaws and less eye hand coordination.

      • Matt

        Sep 28, 2013 at 12:09 am

        Andy I’m hardly naïve and was getting ready to point out the same thing Radar commented on below. Actually most pro’s don’t select their equipment from using trackman, or whatever other radar ball flight systems there are. Most actually use the 10 swings or less method. Basically if they don’t like what they see within 10 swings or less they 86 that club and go to the next. Now I will point out that off the rack equipment fits me pretty well since I’m 5’11” with a normal arm length and hand size but only people significantly shorter or taller will be adversely affected much by standard length, loft, and lie equipment. And like the pro’s I don’t pick a club and make it work for my swing it either fits my swing or it doesn’t and if I don’t like it within 7 swings I move on to the next. I think the point I’m trying to make is people want to believe they can buy a game instead of practicing the right way and if a fitter putts them in equipment that promotes a flawed swing he’s really doing them a disservice!

        • Alex

          Sep 30, 2013 at 1:11 pm

          I fully agree with this. Sorry for my harsh words, but all these hacks are getting fitted, if you are a 20 handiacapper you are not going to be 10 just because you got fitted, you will stay the same 20, that is how it is. Lessons will make you imrpove your handicap and practice after you take the lessons and know exactly what you are doing wrong. Hitting 1000 balls on the range with an incorrect move will not make you any better. Might as well make 1000 putts that will bring down anyone’s handicap.
          Fitting is a huge marketing game. I’ve done that mistake once, i got fitted before i took lessons. I got WORSE. The fitter put my driver into a draw setting, to what they call it “help” my fade. Well my good swings started hooking and then i changed my swing to accomodate then. I got sick of spraying the ball all over, took 3 lessons went from shooting all oover the place to consisntely being in the high 70s to low 80s.
          GET LESSONS, thats all there is to it. Get fit after.
          If anyone wanna prove me wrong, show me anyone who went from 20 to even 15 after a fitting.

          • Matt

            Sep 30, 2013 at 4:22 pm

            Thanks Alex you validated my point. A high handicapper simply can’t be fit because their swing is so inconsistent. Say they show up at the fitter swinging a certain way that day, the fitter determines based on how much the toe of their club is digging they need clubs 2 degrees upright. By the time they get their new clubs in the mail due to their inconsistency they don’t realize they’re standing an inch farther away from the ball or they’re dipping more now on the down swing. Now suddenly they’re new clubs are too upright. Even the pro’s swings change a little over time but it’s minor compared to your average 20 plus handicapper. What so many of these high handicappers want to believe is a custom fitting will be that magic in a bottle but its not and never will be. Yes the pro’s get fit because they’re playing for they’re lively hood and the couple of feet closer to the pin of custom fit set makes for them really matters but a custom fitting won’t correct a 30 yard over the top slice and won’t make the difference from not hitting the green to hitting the green. Your right if someone truly wants to get better then they need to take lessons and practice but now a days people are so lazy they look for technology to do the work when it comes to everything. I’m afraid technology maxed out when it comes to golf equipment a little over ten years ago and if anyone doesn’t believe that then just check the stats over the last 15 years on the PGA tour. It’s funny how with every new driver introduction from Taylor Made they claim 5, 10, 17 more yards but yet the average driving distance on tour has actually gone down a little over the last 5 years and the longest average for a season was all the way back in 2004 thanks to Hank Kuene averaging 324. The truth sometimes hurts but you ain’t gonna get it from the big OEM’s or the guys they pay millions to endorse their equipment!

        • Mike

          Oct 22, 2013 at 8:12 am

          A good fitter will pick out several options based on the golfers needs and then the golfer takes some swings with each to see which feel best. From there you can see the numbers and compare models. The pros may put a lot of emphasis on look and feel, but they know the numbers and make decisions based on them. Not to mention the fitting is more than just getting the best swing speed and spin rate. Once the best feeling and most efficient clubs are chosen the length, lie and grip size are adjusted to fit the individuals measurements. Lofts are also adjusted to fill distance gaps. Trackman is only piece of the fitting. Being properly fit is also on piece of total game improvement.

  8. naflack

    Sep 26, 2013 at 11:36 pm

    so what im hearing is that in a driver fitting i need to have the exact model i want decided before i even start.
    if thats the case, i wont bother…

    • Nick

      Sep 27, 2013 at 12:40 am

      I would agree with you that it’s silly to only try one manufacturer’s clubs!

      BUT… I don’t think that’s what they intended by the “You Can’t Try Everything” section. It was stating it would be impossible to try every driver permutation from one manufacturer, and that you should trust your fitter to narrow down the variables you end up trying across manufacturers.

  9. kloyd0306

    Sep 26, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    #2: Often hitting two clubs less into par 4s!!!!!!!

    What is realistic about that?

  10. ironhand

    Sep 26, 2013 at 10:38 pm

    I think you are a little quick to criticize. The author states: “Another great way to find a good fitter is to ask your friends, golf league members or even a good player in your area where they were fit and what their experience was like. You can quickly get some honest feedback and make an educated decision on whether or not that particular fitter might be a good option for you…”

    So it would seem that the three fitters in your area you refer to might fall into that category?

    Mr. Farner never says it’s essential for the fitter to be associated to a top rated course. He says this is how Golf Digest assesses the Top 100 Fitters, which is ONE source the golfer may use to determine a fitter to meet his or her needs.

  11. B

    Sep 26, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    Wow!!! What a bunch of elitest B. S. I am really said to see that $$$ has gotten in the way of what I use to consider a wonderful place for information about golf equipment. Top rated courses in america to find a good fitter!!! Get real, I can find about three in my area who work from their a small shop and have oem accounts. Get over your self wrx and stop acting like a bunch of elitest snobs!!!

    • Andy B

      Sep 26, 2013 at 9:03 pm

      First of all, the article clearly stated that GOLf DIGEST selected a list of top fitters, not WRX. WRX simply is writing a story about club fitting and referenced a place to find out where great club fitters are located. They then listed the criteria Golf Digest uses. I also dont think they meant the fitter had to be at a top 100 rated course. They stated that the list is selected by the same panelist and industry sources that selects the top 100 courses. Golf WRX is still a great place to find out new and useful information about golf. Yes, it has grown and changed over the years, but it has been for the overall well being of the website and golf lovers. Their are still great articles and resources about custom fitters and clubs that are not mainstream. Hell, Tom Wishon is a main contributor and he is not an OEM elitist fitter at all. He sells his own brand of clubs, which however well fitted or customized for me, I would never play nor buy. (Wishon is still and encyclopedia of club knowledge) Call me elitist on that, but not Golf WRX.

  12. birly-shirly

    Sep 26, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    What does “The facility must fit clubs from the top manufacturers.” mean?

    If someone is fitting and building custom clubs with good quality components, say Wishon, but doesn’t have an account with the major OEMs – can they qualify as a top fitter on the Golf Digest list?

  13. Soul

    Sep 26, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    I did an iron fitting recently… I got the shanks during it… it was a waste of money, I just got so nervous…. it was unbelievable

    • paul

      Sep 26, 2013 at 2:47 pm

      I did a driver fitting in 10 minutes. guy had me pegged right away, 913 d3 ahina stiff. i have never hit the ball so well in my life. fitted on a launch monitor indoors into a screen. i have played enough indoor that i don’t ease up like a lot of people do. and feel was great indoor and out.

    • naflack

      Sep 26, 2013 at 11:32 pm

      sorry to hear that

      • Soul

        Sep 27, 2013 at 1:03 am

        lol thanks

        I was telling the fitter “i swear its not like this on the course” if i could read his mind it’d like “sure buddy”

        • TJ

          Sep 27, 2013 at 10:05 am

          “Sure Buddy”
          you nailed it.

          I fully understand though as I get the shanks once in a while, while practicing pitches, “They don’t make grooves on the hosel”

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19th Hole

Vincenzi’s 2024 Texas Children’s Houston Open betting preview

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As the Florida swing comes to an end, the PGA Tour makes its way to Houston to play the Texas Children’s Houston Open at Memorial Park Golf Course.

This will be the fourth year that Memorial Park Golf Course will serve as the tournament host. The event did not take place in 2023, but the course hosted the event in 2020, 2021 and 2022.

Memorial Park is a par-70 layout measuring 7,432 yards and features Bermudagrass greens. Historically, the main defense for the course has been thick rough along the fairways and tightly mown runoff areas around the greens. Memorial Park has a unique setup that features three Par 5’s and five Par 3’s.

The field will consist of 132 players, with the top 65 and ties making the cut. There are some big names making the trip to Houston, including Scottie Scheffler, Wyndham Clark, Tony Finau, Will Zalatoris and Sahith Theegala.

Past Winners at Memorial Park

  • 2022: Tony Finau (-16)
  • 2021: Jason Kokrak (-10)
  • 2020: Carlos Ortiz (-13)

In this article and going forward, I’ll be using the Rabbit Hole by Betsperts Golf data engine to develop my custom model. If you want to build your own model or check out all of the detailed stats, you can sign up using promo code: MATTVIN for 25% off any subscription package (yearly is best value). 

Key Stats For Memorial Park

Let’s take a look at several metrics for Memorial Park to determine which golfers boast top marks in each category over their last 24 rounds:

Strokes Gained: Approach

Memorial Park is a pretty tough golf course. Golfers are penalized for missing greens and face some difficult up and downs to save par. Approach will be key.

Total Strokes Gained: Approach per round in past 24 rounds:

  1. Tom Hoge (+1.30)
  2. Scottie Scheffler (+1.26)
  3. Keith Mitchell (+0.97) 
  4. Tony Finau (+0.92)
  5. Jake Knapp (+0.84)

Strokes Gained: Off the Tee

Memorial Park is a long golf course with rough that can be penal. Therefore, a combination of distance and accuracy is the best metric.

Total Strokes Gained: Off the Tee per round in past 24 rounds:

  1. Scottie Scheffler (+0.94)
  2. Kevin Dougherty (+0.93)
  3. Cameron Champ (+0.86)
  4. Rafael Campos (+0.84)
  5. Si Woo Kim (+0.70)

Strokes Gained Putting: Bermudagrass + Fast

The Bermudagrass greens played fairly fast the past few years in Houston. Jason Kokrak gained 8.7 strokes putting on his way to victory in 2021 and Tony Finau gained in 7.8 in 2022.

Total Strokes Gained Putting (Bermudagrass) per round past 24 rounds (min. 8 rounds):

  1. Adam Svensson (+1.27)
  2. Harry Hall (+1.01)
  3. Martin Trainer (+0.94)
  4. Taylor Montgomery (+0.88)
  5. S.H. Kim (+0.86)

Strokes Gained: Around the Green

With firm and undulating putting surfaces, holding the green on approach shots may prove to be a challenge. Memorial Park has many tightly mowed runoff areas, so golfers will have challenging up-and-down’s around the greens. Carlos Ortiz gained 5.7 strokes around the green on the way to victory in 2020.

Total Strokes Gained: Around the Green per round in past 24 rounds:

  1. Mackenzie Hughes (+0.76)
  2. S.H. Kim (+0.68)
  3. Scottie Scheffler (+0.64)
  4. Jorge Campillo (+0.62)
  5. Jason Day (+0.60)

Strokes Gained: Long and Difficult

Memorial Park is a long and difficult golf course. This statistic will incorporate players who’ve had success on these types of tracks in the past. 

Total Strokes Gained: Long and Difficult in past 24 rounds:

  1. Scottie Scheffler (+2.45)
  2. Ben Griffin (+1.75)
  3. Will Zalatoris (+1.73)
  4. Ben Taylor (+1.53)
  5. Tony Finau (+1.42)

Course History

Here are the players who have performed the most consistently at Memorial Park. 

Strokes Gained Total at Memorial Park past 12 rounds:

  1. Tyson Alexander (+3.65)
  2. Ben Taylor (+3.40)
  3. Tony Finau (+2.37)
  4. Joel Dahmen (+2.25)
  5. Patton Kizzire (+2.16)

Statistical Model

Below, I’ve reported overall model rankings using a combination of the five key statistical categories previously discussed.

These rankings are comprised of SG: App (24%) SG: OTT (24%); SG: Putting Bermudagrass/Fast (13%); SG: Long and Difficult (13%); SG: ARG (13%) and Course History (13%)

  1. Scottie Scheffler
  2. Wyndham Clark
  3. Tony Finau
  4. Joel Dahmen
  5. Stephan Jaeger 
  6. Aaron Rai
  7. Sahith Theegala
  8. Keith Mitchell 
  9. Jhonnatan Vegas
  10. Jason Day
  11. Kurt Kitayama
  12. Alex Noren
  13. Will Zalatoris
  14. Si Woo Kim
  15. Adam Long

2024 Texas Children’s Houston Open Picks

Will Zalatoris +2000 (Caesars)

Scottie Scheffler will undoubtedly be difficult to beat this week, so I’m starting my card with someone who I believe has the talent to beat him if he doesn’t have his best stuff.

Will Zalatoris missed the cut at the PLAYERS, but still managed to gain strokes on approach while doing so. In an unpredictable event with extreme variance, I don’t believe it would be wise to discount Zalatoris based on that performance. Prior to The PLAYERS, the 27-year-old finished T13, T2 and T4 in his previous three starts.

Zalatoris plays his best golf on long and difficult golf courses. In his past 24 rounds, he ranks 3rd in the category, but the eye test also tells a similar story. He’s contended at major championships and elevated events in the best of fields with tough scoring conditions.  The Texas resident should be a perfect fit at Memorial Park Golf Club.

Alex Noren +4500 (FanDuel)

Alex Noren has been quietly playing some of his best golf of the last half decade this season. The 41-year-old is coming off back-to-back top-20 finishes in Florida including a T9 at The PLAYERS in his most recent start.

In his past 24 rounds, Noren ranks 21st in the field in Strokes Gained: Off the Tee, 30th in Strokes Gained: Around the Green, 25th in Strokes Gained: Total on long and difficult courses and 21st in Strokes Gained: Putting on fast Bermudagrass greens.

In addition to his strong recent play, the Swede also has played well at Memorial Park. In 2022, Noren finished T4 at the event, gaining 2.2 strokes off the tee and 7.0 strokes on approach for the week. In his two starts at the course, he’s gained an average of .6 strokes per round on the field, indicating he is comfortable on these greens.

Noren has been due for a win for what feels like an eternity, but Memorial Park may be the course that suits him well enough for him to finally get his elusive first PGA Tour victory.

Mackenzie Hughes +8000 (FanDuel)

Mackenzie Hughes found himself deep into contention at last week’s Valspar Championship before faltering late and finishing in a tie for 3rd place. While he would have loved to win the event, it’s hard to see the performance as anything other than an overwhelming positive sign for the Canadian.

Hughes has played great golf at Memorial Park in the past. He finished T7 in 2020, T29 in 2021 and T16 in 2022. The course fit seems to be quite strong for Hughes. He’s added distance off the tee in the past year or and ranks 8th in the field for apex height, which will be a key factor when hitting into Memorial Park’s elevated greens with steep run-off areas.

In his past 24 rounds, Hughes is the best player in the field in Strokes Gained: Around the Greens. The ability to scramble at this course will be extremely important. I believe Hughes can build off of his strong finish last week and contend once again to cement himself as a President’s Cup consideration.

Akshay Bhatia +8000 (FanDuel)

Akshay Bhatia played well last week at the Valspar and seemed to be in total control of his golf ball. He finished in a tie for 17th and shot an impressive -3 on a difficult Sunday. After struggling Thursday, Akshay shot 68-70-68 in his next three rounds.

Thus far, Bhatia has played better at easier courses, but his success at Copperhead may be due to his game maturing. The 22-year-old has enormous potential and the raw talent to be one of the best players in the world when he figures it all out.

Bhatia is a high upside play with superstar qualities and may just take the leap forward to the next stage of his career in the coming months.

Cameron Champ +12000 (FanDuel)

Cameron Champ is a player I often target in the outright betting market due to his “boom-or-bust” nature. It’s hard to think of a player in recent history with three PGA Tour wins who’s been as inconsistent as Champ has over the course of his career.

Despite the erratic play, Cam Champ simply knows how to win. He’s won in 2018, 2019 and 2021, so I feel he’s due for a win at some point this season. The former Texas A&M product should be comfortable in Texas and last week he showed us that his game is in a pretty decent spot.

Over his past 24 rounds, Champ ranks 3rd in Strokes Gained: Off the Tee and 30th in Strokes Gained: Total on long and difficult courses. Given his ability to spike at any given time, Memorial Park is a good golf course to target Champ on at triple digit odds.

Robert MacIntyre +12000 (FanDuel)

The challenge this week is finding players who can possibly beat Scottie Scheffler while also not dumping an enormous amount of money into an event that has a player at the top that looks extremely dangerous. Enter McIntyre, who’s another boom-or-bust type player who has the ceiling to compete with anyone when his game is clicking on all cylinders.

In his past 24 rounds, MacIntyre ranks 16th in the field in Strokes Gained: Off the Tee, 17th in Strokes Gained: Around the Green and 10th in Strokes Gained: Total on long and difficult courses.

MacIntyre’s PGA Tour season has gotten off to a slow start, but he finished T6 in Mexico, which is a course where players will hit driver on the majority of their tee shots, which is what we will see at Memorial Park. Texas can also get quite windy, which should suit MacIntyre. Last July, the Scot went toe to toe with Rory McIlroy at the Scottish Open before a narrow defeat. It would take a similar heroic effort to compete with Scheffler this year in Houston.

Ryan Moore +15000 (FanDuel)

Ryan Moore’s iron play has been absolutely unconscious over his past few starts. At The PLAYERS Championship in a loaded field, he gained 6.1 strokes on approach and last week at Copperhead, he gained 9.0 strokes on approach.

It’s been a rough handful of years on Tour for the 41-year-old, but he is still a five-time winner on the PGA Tour who’s young enough for a career resurgence. Moore has chronic deterioration in a costovertebral joint that connects the rib to the spine, but has been getting more consistent of late, which is hopefully a sign that he is getting healthy.

Veterans have been contending in 2024 and I believe taking a flier on a proven Tour play who’s shown signs of life is a wise move at Memorial Park.

 

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Ryan: Why the race to get better at golf might be doing more harm than good

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B.F. Skinner was one of the most important psychologists of the 20th century, developing the foundation of the development of reinforcement, and in doing so, creating the concept of behaviorism. In simple terms, this means that we are conditioned by our habits. In practical terms, it explains the divide between the few and far between elite instructors and college coaches.

To understand the application, let’s quickly review one of B.F. Skinner’s most important experiments; superstitions in the formation of behavior by pigeons. In this experiment, food was dispensed to pigeons at random intervals. Soon, according to Skinner, the pigeons began to associate whatever action they were doing at the time of the food being dispensed. According to Skinner, this conditioned that response and soon, they simply haphazardly repeated the action, failing to distinguish between cause and correlation (and in the meantime, looking really funny!).

Now, this is simply the best way to describe the actions of most every women’s college golf coach and too many instructors in America. They see something work, get positive feedback and then become conditioned to give the feedback, more and more, regardless of if it works (this is also why tips from your buddies never work!).

Go to a college event, particularly a women’s one, and you will see coaches running all over the place. Like the pigeons in the experiment, they have been conditioned into a codependent relationship with their players in which they believe their words and actions, can transform a round of golf. It is simply hilarious while being equally perturbing

In junior golf, it’s everywhere. Junior golf academies make a living selling parents that a hysterical coach and over-coaching are essential ingredients in your child’s success.

Let’s be clear, no one of any intellect has any real interest in golf — because it’s not that interesting. The people left, including most coaches and instructors, carve out a small fiefdom, usually on the corner of the range, where they use the illusion of competency to pray on people. In simple terms, they baffle people with the bullshit of pseudo-science that they can make you better, after just one more lesson.

The reality is that life is an impromptu game. The world of golf, business, and school have a message that the goal is being right. This, of course, is bad advice, being right in your own mind is easy, trying to push your ideas on others is hard. As a result, it is not surprising that the divorce rate among golf professionals and their instructors is 100 percent. The transfer rate among college players continues to soar, and too many courses have a guy peddling nefarious science to good people. In fact, we do at my course!

The question is, what impact does all this have on college-age and younger kids? At this point, we honestly don’t know. However, I am going to go out on a limb and say it isn’t good.

Soren Kierkegaard once quipped “I saw it for what it is, and I laughed.” The actions of most coaches and instructors in America are laughable. The problem is that I am not laughing because they are doing damage to kids, as well as driving good people away from this game.

The fact is that golfers don’t need more tips, secrets, or lessons. They need to be presented with a better understanding of the key elements of golf. With this understanding, they can then start to frame which information makes sense and what doesn’t. This will emancipate them and allow them to take charge of their own development.

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Vincenzi’s 2024 Valspar Championship betting preview: Elite ballstrikers to thrive at Copperhead

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The PGA TOUR will stay in Florida this week for the 2024 Valspar Championship.

The Copperhead Course at Innisbrook Resort is a par 71 measuring 7,340 yards and features Bermudagrass greens overseeded with POA. Infamous for its difficulty, the track will be a tough test for golfers as trouble lurks all over the place. Holes 16, 17 and 18 — also known as the “Snake Pit” — make up one of the toughest three-hole stretches in golf and should lead to a captivating finish on Sunday.

The field is comprised of 156 golfers teeing it up. The field this week is solid and is a major improvement over last year’s field that felt the impact of players skipping due to a handful of “signature events” in a short span of time. 

Past Winners at Valspar Championship

  • 2023: Taylor Moore (-10)
  • 2022: Sam Burns (-17)
  • 2021: Sam Burns (-17)
  • 2019: Paul Casey (-8)
  • 2018: Paul Casey (-10)
  • 2017: Adam Hadwin (-14)
  • 2016: Charl Schwartzel (-7)
  • 2015: Jordan Spieth (-10)

In this article and going forward, I’ll be using the Rabbit Hole by Betsperts Golf data engine to develop my custom model. If you want to build your own model or check out all of the detailed stats, you can sign up using promo code: MATTVIN for 25% off any subscription package (yearly is best value). 

Key Stats For Copperhead

1. Strokes Gained: Approach

Strokes Gained: Approach grades out as the most important statistic once again this week. Copperhead really can’t be overpowered and is a second-shot golf course.

Total SG: Approach Over Past 24 Rounds (per round)

  1. Tony Finau (+.90)
  2. Nick Taylor (+.81)
  3. Justin Thomas (+.77)
  4. Greyson Sigg (+.69)
  5. Christiaan Bezuidenhout (+.67)

2. Good Drive %

The long hitters can be a bit limited here due to the tree-lined fairways and penal rough. Playing from the fairways will be important, but laying back too far will cause some difficult approaches with firm greens that may not hold shots from long irons.

Golfers who have a good balance of distance and accuracy have the best chance this week.

Good Drive % Over Past 24 Rounds

  1. Brice Garnett (+91.3%) 
  2. Zach Johnson (+91.1%)
  3. Sam Ryder (+90.5%)
  4. Ryan Moore (+90.4%)
  5. Aaron Rai (+89.7%)

3. Strokes Gained: Ball Striking

Adding ball-striking puts even more of a premium on tee-to-green prowess in the statistical model this week. Golfers who rank highly in ball-striking are in total control of the golf ball which is exceedingly important at Copperhead.

SG: Ball Striking Over Past 24 Rounds:

  1. Xander Schauffele (+1.32)
  2. Keith Mitchell (+1.29)
  3. Tony Finau (+1.24)
  4. Cameron Young (+1.17) 
  5. Doug Ghim (+.95)

4. Bogey Avoidance

With the conditions likely to be difficult, avoiding bogeys will be crucial this week. In a challenging event like the Valspar, oftentimes the golfer who is best at avoiding mistakes ends up on top.

Gritty golfers who can grind out difficult pars have a much better chance in an event like this than a low-scoring birdie-fest.

Bogey Avoidance Over Past 24 Rounds

  1. Brice Garnett (+9.0)
  2. Xander Schauffele (+9.3)
  3. Austin Cook (+9.7) 
  4. Chesson Hadley (+10.0)
  5. Greyson Sigg (+10.2)

5. Strokes Gained: Total in Difficult Conditions

Conditions will be tough this week at Copperhead. I am looking for golfers who can rise to the occasion if the course plays as difficult as it has in the past.

Strokes Gained: Total in Difficult Conditions Over Past 24 rounds

  1. Xander Schauffele (+1,71) 
  2. Min Woo Lee (+1.39)
  3. Cameron Young (+1.27)
  4. Jordan Spieth (+1.08)
  5. Justin Suh (+.94)

6. Course History

That statistic will tell us which players have played well at Copperhead in the past.

Course History Over Past 24 rounds

  1. Patrick Cantlay (+3.75) 
  2. Sam Burns (+2.49)
  3. Davis Riley (+2.33)
  4. Matt NeSmith (+2.22)
  5. Jordan Spieth (+2.04)

The Valspar Championship Model Rankings

Below, I’ve compiled overall model rankings using a combination of the five key statistical categories previously discussed — SG: Approach (27%), Good Drive % (15%), SG: BS (20%), Bogeys Avoided (13%), Course History (13%) Strokes Gained: Total in Difficult Conditions (12%).

  1. Xander Schauffele
  2. Doug Ghim
  3. Victor Perez
  4. Greyson Sigg
  5. Ryan Moore
  6. Tony Finau
  7. Justin Thomas
  8. Sam Ryder
  9. Sam Burns
  10. Lucas Glover

2024 Valspar Championship Picks

Justin Thomas +1400 (DraftKings)

Justin Thomas will be disappointed with his finish at last week’s PLAYERS Championship, as the past champion missed the cut despite being in some decent form heading into the event. Despite the missed cut, JT hit the ball really well. In his two rounds, the two-time major champion led the field in Strokes Gained: Approach per round.

Thomas has been up and down this season. He’s missed the cut in two “signature events” but also has finishes of T12 at the Arnold Palmer Invitational, T12 at the Waste Management Phoenix Open, T6 at the Pebble Beach AT&T Pro-Am and T3 at the American Express. In his past 24 rounds, he ranks 3rd in the field in Strokes Gained: Approach and 6th in Strokes Gained: Ball Striking in the field.

Thomas loves Copperhead. In his last three tries at the course, he’s finished T13, T3 and T10. Thomas would have loved to get a win at a big event early in the season, but avoidable mistakes and a balky putter have cost him dearly. I believe a trip to a course he loves in a field he should be able to capitalize on is the right recipe for JT to right the ship.

Christiaan Bezuidenhout +6000 (FanDuel)

Christiaan Bezuidenhout is playing spectacular golf in the 2024 season. He finished 2nd at the American Express, T20 at Pebble Beach and T24 at the Genesis Invitational before finishing T13 at last week’s PLAYERS Championship.

In his past 24 rounds, the South African ranks 3rd in the field in Strokes Gained: Approach and 26th in Strokes Gained: Ball Striking. Bezuidenhout managed to work his way around TPC Sawgrass last week with minimal damage. He only made five bogeys in the entire week, which is a great sign heading into a difficult Copperhead this week.

Bezuidenhout is winless in his PGA Tour career, but certainly has the talent to win on Tour. His recent iron play tells me that this week could be a breakthrough for the 35-year-old who has eyes on the President’s Cup.

Doug Ghim +8000 (FanDuel)

Doug Ghim has finished in the top-16 of his past five starts. Most recently, Ghim finished T16 at The PLAYERS Championship in a loaded field.

In his past 24 rounds, Ghim ranks 8th in Strokes Gained: Approach and 5th in Strokes Gained: Ball Striking. In terms of his fit for Copperhead, the 27-year-old ranks 12th in Bogey Avoidance and 7th in Strokes Gained: Total in Difficult Conditions, making him a great fit for the course.

Ghim has yet to win on Tour, but at one point he was the top ranked Amateur golfer in the world and played in the 2017 Arnold Palmer Cup and 2017 Walker Cup. He then won the Ben Hogan award for the best male college golfer in 2018. He certainly has the talent, and there are signals aplenty that his talent in ready to take him to the winner’s circle on the PGA Tour.

Sepp Straka +8000 (BetRivers)

Sepp Straka is a player who’s shown he has the type of game that can translate to a difficult Florida golf course. The former Presidents Cup participant won the 2022 Honda Classic in tough conditions and should thrive with a similar test at Copperhead.

It’s been a slow 2024 for Straka, but his performance last week at the PLAYERS Championship surely provides some optimism. He gained 5.4 strokes on approach as well as 1.88 strokes off the tee. The tee-to-green game Straka showed on a course with plenty of danger demonstrates that he can stay in control of his golf ball this week.

It’s possible that the strong performance last week was an outlier, but I’m willing to bet on a proven winner in a weaker field at a great number.

Victor Perez +12000 (FanDuel)

Victor Perez is no stranger to success in professional golf. The Frenchman has three DP World Tour wins including a Rolex Series event. He won the 2019 Alfred Dunhill Links Championship, as well as the 2023 Abu Dhabi HSBC Championship, which are some big events.

Perez earned his PGA Tour card this season and enters the week playing some fantastic golf. He finished in a tie for 16th in Florida at the Cognizant Classic and then tied for third in his most recent start at the Puerto Rico Open.

In his past 24 rounds in the field, Perez ranks 11th in Strokes Gained: Approach, 1oth in Strokes Gained: Ball Striking, 6th in Good Drive % and 15th in Bogey Avoidance.

Perez comes in as a perfect fit for Copperhead and offers serious value at triple-digit odds.

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