Equipment
Ping G25 irons: Editor Review
Pros: The G25’s are more compact than the G20’s in every way — especially the short irons, which our reviewer called “downright svelte looking.” But despite the smaller size, Ping managed to make the G25 irons longer and more forgiving. The long irons also fly higher than previous models, and do so without adding too much spin.
Cons: The G25’s soles are narrower than the G20’s, but they’re still oversized. That means they’ll have a tendency to snag in the rough. And while they G25’s offer improved feel, we’re still talking about an oversized cast iron from Ping — not a buttery forging.
The Bottom Line: The G25 irons look, feel and perform better than the G20’s, which was no small accomplishment considering how many golfers love their G20 irons. These are worth the upgrade, particularly for better players. They’ll get a lot more performance from the narrower soles and higher-launching long irons, as well.
Overview
G Series irons from Ping are traditionally game-improvement irons, which means they’re designed to help average joes hit higher, farther and straighter shots.
But Ping’s last two renditions, the G15 and G20 irons, were trending toward the “super game-improvement” category. Their extremely wide soles and large amount of offset was too much for many golfers, particularly those who enjoyed the look of Ping’s smaller irons but didn’t have the game to play them.
That’s why this year’s G25 irons are considerable more compact than the G20’s. But here’s the thing — typically, when irons get smaller they also become less forgiving. But the G25’s actually perform better than the larger G20’s. In the words of our reviewer, they’re “rainmakers” that are “sinfully forgiving.”
Click here to read his full review in the forums.
The G25’s sell for around $700 for a set of a set of eight irons, and are available with Ping’s CFS shafts in Soft R, Regular, Stiff, X-Stiff flexes or Ping’s lighter, higher-launching TFC 189 shafts in Soft R, Regular and Stiff flexes. Check out the spec sheets below for more information.
Performance
Rarely are we able to say that a new iron has considerably more forgiveness and feel than a previous model, but that’s exactly what the G25 irons deliver. The biggest change Ping made to the irons was positioning the CTP, or custom tuning port, lower in the head. It was positioned so low, in fact, that Ping had to make it smaller because it now collides with the sole.
What that change did was line up the center of gravity with the line of force at impact, which results in a more efficient transfer of energy (aka more ball speed) on center strikes. But because Ping is Ping, and its engineers strive to make each iron as forgiving as the size of the head will allow, the G25’s also have more perimeter weighting.
Where did that extra weight come? Well, Ping made the faces of the G25 irons thinner. That didn’t necessarily make the faces any springier, but what it did do was free up a few extra grams of weight for Ping to sprinkle around the cavity, which makes the club more stable on off-center strikes to make those shots fly close to the same distance as solid hits.
Click here to read our full tech story on the G25 irons.
Our reviewer summed it up nicely when he said:
“These G25s are more forgiving than your favorite grandmother.”
But what might be more important to better players than the extra forgiveness and ball speed are the G25’s narrower soles, which will perform better from the rough and improve turf interaction on tight lies.
According to our reviewer, there’s even more good news for better players. The G25 3 iron is so long and high-launching that golfers might be inclined to trade out the troublesome hybrid in their bag.
Looks and Feel
The great thing about positioning more mass behind the line of force at impact is that it not only boosts performance — more mass behind the ball at impact boosts feel as well. But Ping went even further to dial in the feel of the G25 irons — engineers changed the materials, shape, size and adhesion of the multi-material cavity badge to soften the blow, resulting in subtle, yet powerful sound at impact.
Visually, the reduced offset, thinner top lines and more progressive sole widths look beautiful at address, and pair nicely with a graphite finish that makes the irons look even stealthier over the ball.
“Can I say the G25’s are more blade like than the G20’s in the short irons?,” our reviewer said. “It’s crazy to use that comparison, but much of what appeared to get in the way — a bit too much meat on the bone — has been redistributed out of the way. You’re unlikely now to see the back of the PW standing over it at address. The soles are narrowed significantly, and play effectively even narrower as there is an added trailing edge relief grind. The sense is, if we were to put the G25’s and the G20’s in a wind tunnel … the G25’s look like they’d win with a lower coefficient of drag.”
Click here to read his full review in the forums.
The Takeaway
The Ping G25’s aren’t the best looking irons on the market, and they’re not the best feeling, either. But that’s not what Ping was after.
Our reviewer found that his shots were often flying the right distance and on the right line, even when his contact wasn’t in the right place. In a game of misses, that might be the most a golfer can hope for, and that’s why Ping designed them that way.
Ping isn’t claiming that the Ping G25’s are going to fly farther than everyone else’s game-improvement iron, but they’re plenty long. And after hitting a few of these thin, on the heel and on the toe and still watching them fly long and straight, we know that Ping squeezed every ounce of forgiveness possible from the smaller size of these new irons. And that’s what modern iron design should be all about.
Click here to read his full review in the forums.
Reviewed by GolfWRX Moderator Todd Hibbert (Asleep in the forums)
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Whats in the Bag
Chesson Hadley WITB 2024 (March)
- Chesson Hadley what’s in the bag accurate as of the Texas Children’s Houston Open. More photos from the event here.
Driver: Titleist TSR3 (10 degrees, D1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ 70 TX
3-wood: Titleist TSR2+ (14.5 degrees, A1 SureFit setting)
Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana D+ 80 TX
Irons: Titleist T200 (3), Titleist 620 CB (4, 5), Titleist 620 MB (6-PW)
Shafts: Graphite Design Tour AD DI 105 X (3), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 (4-PW)
Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (52-12F, 56-14F), WedgeWorks (60-K)
Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400
Putter: Odyssey White Hot OG 2-Ball
Grip: Odyssey
Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet
Ball: Titleist Pro V1x
Check out more in-hand photos Chesson Hadley’s clubs here.
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Whats in the Bag
Gary Woodland WITB 2024 (March)
Driver: Cobra Darkspeed X (8 degrees)
Shaft: Accra TZ5 70 M5
- The white circle that appears at the top of the face a removable sticker that’s used for launch monitor tracking, and Woodland removes it for competition!
3-wood: Cobra Darkspeed X (14 degrees)
Shaft: Accra TZ5 GW100 Prototype
7-wood: Cobra LTDx LS prototype (20 degrees)
Shaft: Accra TZ5 GW100 Prototype
Irons: Wilson Staff (18 degrees), Cobra King MB (4-PW)
Shafts: KBS Tour C-Taper Limited X
Wedges: Cobra SB (48), Titleist Vokey Design SM10 (52-08F, 56-14F), Cobra King (60)
Shafts: KBS Tour C-Taper Limited X (48 degrees), KBS Tour V-Ten 125
Putter: Scotty Cameron T-5 Proto
Grip: SuperStroke Zenergy Tour 3.0P
Ball: Titleist Pro V1x
Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Cord
See more in-hand photos of Gary Woodland’s WITB in the forums.
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Equipment
Q&A: Martin Trainer on his Bobby Grace “Greg Chalmers” putter, 6.5-degree driver, and “butter knife” 2-iron
As unbiasedly as I can put it, Martin Trainer has one of the coolest club setups in professional golf. (At some point soon, I’ll put together a top-10 list of “coolest club setups on Tour,” but I know that Trainer will be in the top-10)
What a lineup. He plays a 6.5-degree Wilson prototype driver, a 13-degree Wilson prototype 3-wood, a true blade Wilson Staff Model 2-iron, and a Bobby Grace “Greg Chalmers Commemorative” putter!
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I mean, look at this 2-iron from address…
To quote the great author R.L. Stine: “Goosebumps.”
On Wednesday at the 2024 Texas Children’s Houston Open, I caught up with Trainer to learn more about his bag setup.
Here’s what he had to say:
You have the Internet going crazy over your bag setup, and your putter. Where’d you pick the Bobby Grace-Greg Chalmers putter up? How long have you had it?
MT: This was from when Bobby Grace came to my course in California: Cal Club. And for whatever reason, they just started having them in the shop. So then I took my buddy’s, started using it, and made, like, a million putts in a row, which is how every putter story begins, I guess.
And then, I bought a couple of my own, used it for years, got to the Tour with it, won on Tour with it (the 2019 Puerto Rico Open). Then, about a year later, started using another putter, did that for a couple years, but now it’s back in the bag.
When did it come back in the bag?
MT: December of this past year. So a few months ago.
What year would you say was the first time you threw that in the bag, or, like, when you bought it?
MT: God…Probably, 2016, maybe? 2018?
Do you remember how much you paid for it?
MT: I don’t know, actually. Maybe $100-150 bucks or something. I think that’s the only golf club I’ve bought between high school and now. Well, two, since I bought two of them.
The driver is interesting, too. What went into the prototyping process?
MT: That was a version of the current driver, but it was the prototype that they first came out with for Tour guys to try. And for whatever reason, I just never switched out to the new one.
It’s just 6.5 degrees, right?
MT: Yeah. Very low loft, yeah.
What kind of ball speed do you have with that these days?
MT: Like high 170’s.
Yeah, that’ll work. And then a 2-iron blade? We’re seeing fewer and fewer of those out here.
MT: Yeah. The butter knife.
Very cool thing to have in the bag. Have you done any testing with driving irons?
MT: Yeah, I used to have a thicker one, but it was a little offset, and I never hit it that well. And then finally, I started messing around with the butter knife. And I remember the first time I looked down at it, I was terrified. And then I ended up getting used to it, putting it in play, and it’s been in place since. It’s a pretty good club for me.
How far do you carry that?
MT: Like 235.
A good little wind club, I’m sure.
MTL Yeah, exactly. I can hit it very low. It’s great.
I love it. You have people shook looking at that. Thanks for the time, man.
MT: Absolutely.
To see more photos and discussion of Trainer’s bag, click here.
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HENRY GARBARZ
Aug 8, 2014 at 6:59 pm
I have played with Ping G5/15 irons and loved them. The G25s are awesome when it comes to hitting greens. The 8/9/w/gw make the game easy. I seem to lose distance with the longer irons but my dispersion pattern is very good. As senior golfer I love the weight of the shafts. My hccp is 15.
I would highly recommend these.
Terry Medlar
Nov 6, 2014 at 10:11 pm
I’m 63 and started playing (seriously) 3 years ago. I currently use TM RBZ irons and woods. I’ve taken lots of lessons, but have been struggling with consistency, especially with my fairway woods. I just tried and purschased a g25 3 wood and couldn’t be happier. I still made some bad shots but couldn’t believe how easy this wood hit off the tee and the ground. If the irons are as forgiving as this 3 wood, I want to buy a set. I just want to make sure they are worth the price.
Ken Christy
Jul 15, 2014 at 9:11 pm
Went in and got fitted. The golf shop sold me on the G25’s. I like the 8,9.W and U. The 7,6 and 5 blah. I told the retailer that I used to ‘play’. But had been raising my family but wanted to ‘play’ again. I told him I was as low as a 2 handicap but he said that I should use today’s technology. When my clubs arrived, they were blue dots and I questioned that because they were too upright. A waste of 800 bucks !! Bought a used set of old black dot Ping Eye 2’s for $100 bucks off Craigs List and had them regriped Hit them straight and 10-12 yards farther than the G25’s. So much for technology.
Bill Duryea
May 29, 2014 at 6:58 am
The new Scottsdale Craz-e true roll is awesome! I have made more putts this year so far than I have ever made. Keep up the good work.
Nick
Apr 20, 2014 at 3:26 pm
I have played many Ping irons the last 30 years (eye2, zing, isi, i3, …) and these are outstanding if you want a forgiving iron that looks ok. Extremely easy to hit and a soft feel for a cast iron. Only one downside, I find it difficult to control a fade with the g25.
Ted
Apr 11, 2014 at 4:08 am
You have to laugh when you read some of these comments. Ping Zings & Ping Eye Two are so far behind in technology and performance. I personally have owned Ping Zings, G15’s and now G25’s and the step in performance is sensational. Well done to the engineer’s behind the development of the newer clubs.
Brian Weller
Apr 8, 2014 at 1:28 pm
Played the the G25’s as a rental set at the Biltmore in PHX and I cannot believe how good these clubs are ! I am going home and buying a set ! Straight, true and forgiving. Have to to retire my Ping Eye 2 irons 🙂
Jason
Feb 3, 2014 at 4:36 pm
Extremely happy with my purchase. Went to the golf shop over the weekend looking to purchase new irons. This is my 3rd season of golf and had been currently playing a set of hand me down taylormade supersteel irons. Currently I range anywhere from an 11-17 handicap. I went in with an open mind for my fitting. I wanted to hit all the new irons and I did. Hit the new speedblades last years rocket blades, callaway x-hots and the x-hot 2’s. Also the new AP’1’s and the Ping G25’s. After a few swings I knew the callaways were not the clubs for me. Although the taylormade’s may be the longest irons I’ve ever hit just didn’t seem to be that consistent with them. I narrowed it down between the G25’s and the AP1’s. The AP1’s were the best looking club in the game improvement irons in my opinion. I just loved the explosion and feel of these G25s very forgiving on miss hits and get the ball up in the air in a hurry. Now I can’t compare them to the other pings as these were the only ones I hit. And they were not as long say as taylormade. But if your looking for great feel forgiveness and exceptional length I would recommend these irons to any mid to hi handicapper! I think it’s safe to say these irons won’t be leaving my bag anytime soon!
Pete
Dec 2, 2013 at 4:46 pm
Soon receiving a large retro check and need new irons. Are the Ping G25 worth it or something cheaper like the Mizuno JPZ 800?
Kav
Sep 10, 2013 at 3:45 am
I just got the G25, black dot. Steel Shaft.
I used to own a custom i15 but my entire golf bag got stolen!!
a few weeks back, i tried the G25 and i20’s.. i felt the G25 gave me a better feel and further distance.
i really miss my old i15’s. my handicap is about 20.
All i can say is, i can forsee myself getting better with the G25 as there is an increase in distance as before.
i would recommend this for people who want more distance. The feel is pretty good too.
SirShankAlot
Aug 4, 2013 at 10:42 am
I love my Raptures but am certainly interested in the G25s. Think i have to wait some time til the first G25´s go second hand cause i haven´t got the money for new clubs. Never had and probably never will 😉 Thanks for the review !
mfrank999
Jul 29, 2013 at 8:53 am
I just received my G25 irons in graphite sr flex.
They are red dot and 1/2 inch short.
On the mat in the store I hit them pure but when I went to the outdoor range and hit off the grass I never felt I hit the sweet spot although they went pretty much in the direction I was aiming.
I have always played standard lie and regular length even though I am 5′-7 1/2″.
Do I have to just get used to the shorter length, is it in my head????
By the way I am a picker.
purkjason
Jul 24, 2013 at 2:24 pm
Best Irons Ping ever made were and still are the Ping Eye 2’s. Mine are still working just fine and I have no reason to ever change. I do admit that the G25’s are the best looking irons Ping has ever created hands down.
Carrlos
Jul 22, 2013 at 5:41 pm
I would pay money to read a comparation; G25 “vs” PingZing2. I really belive there is no significant improvement.
Top class booth of them.
wrx143
Jul 5, 2013 at 12:02 pm
Bought the G25s with PXi shafts that brought the ball flight down a bit and lowered spin, not that the G25s spin too much. Yes, I love these irons and the main reason is the feel I get from a well struck shot. The ball seems to stay on the face for a split second longer, similiar to my MP30 Mizunos. Unlike my MP30s, there is a distinct crispness as the ball leaves the face in a hurry that is addictive. Also, the turf interaction is nothing short of perfection. I have one beef with Ping, and that is the lie on their irons rarely arrive to specifications. They are great about fixing the problem, but why not do it right the first time?
jim
Jul 5, 2013 at 2:07 am
There was a day when Ping made the best equipment in the business. Now though, they churn out new stuff like they are taylor made Jr…. mostly crap.
Jay Smith
Jul 2, 2013 at 5:53 pm
There is nothing special about them. If your a high handicapper it will not make a bit of a difference what !you play with. If your a good player you will hate the things. Sales and marketing
Bart
Jul 4, 2013 at 8:54 am
Hi,Jay,
I have to totally disagree with you. I own the Ping G20’s and after playing with them for a year I can say they deliver results as promised.
I have only been playing for 2 years and I currently have a 22 handicap. My first set was a basic starter set. Once I realized how much I loved playing I started replacing the clubs. When I was shopping for irons I tried irons on the driving range from titliest, Callaway, and tailormade. I couldn’t find one that stood out from the other. Then on a whim I tried the Ping G20. I had initially passed over them because I didn’t like the way they looked in the store. But on the driving range they produced a high and consistent ball flight. I thought maybe I was now warmed up so I shuffled the clubs around and randomly selected a brand. Every time it I kit the G20 it produced that beautiful consistent flight.
Next I took it on the golf course. And the results were confidence building. My favorite shot is hitting my 7 iron and seeing it land softly on the green. I have 2 friends who have since bought the G20’s whose handicaps are in the low teens .
Ping doesn’t make empty promises. They promoted the consistent gaping between irons, forgiveness across the face, and a higher ball flight. They deliver on all 3.
Jason Bice
Aug 13, 2013 at 10:27 pm
Clubs and engineering do matter. I too, was fitted at the PGA superstore for G20 blue dots. I ended up buying Mizuno JPX-800pros because of looks. I wasted a year with the Mizunos. I should have left with the G20s. I now sold the JPXs and bought the G25s and am really lowering my handicap.
Dwaine McKeen
Jul 4, 2013 at 7:43 pm
I don’t think so, fitted forged MX200 Mizuno irons for 5 years, 15 handicap, now Ping G25 steel shaft irons, straight, high, equal distance and forged feel….12 handicap.
Must be magic.
Dwaine McKeen
Jul 4, 2013 at 7:45 pm
I don’t think so, fitted forged MX200 Mizuno irons for 5 years, 15 handicap, now Ping G25 steel shaft irons, straight, high, equal distance and forged feel….12 handicap.
Must be magic.
Tommy
Jun 30, 2013 at 10:31 am
The G25 line from Ping is awesome! I have the G25 driver, 2 fairways, and G25 irons with graphite shafts.